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by Paul Waine
Tue Sep 17, 2019 11:02 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 14139
Views: 260586

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

Tax is no more "taking your money" than the shopkeeper "took my money" for the milk I bought this morning, or the utilities companies "take our money" for supplying water or electricity. Tax is your subscription for society, and it's been many centuries since private t...
by Paul Waine
Tue Sep 17, 2019 10:57 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 14139
Views: 260586

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

Hi DA, martin and Lancs, I'm waiting on a station waiting for a train to work (I'm not req'd to get there by 9:00 these days) and listening to announcements about track-side fires and the usual "we are sorry that your journey will take longer than planned" messages So, we've got time to sp...
by Paul Waine
Tue Sep 17, 2019 7:42 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 14139
Views: 260586

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

The word ‘actual’ is in Lancasters post. But it’s clear to anyone that in the context of the conversation the word ‘actual’ applies to there being an actual scenario rather than actual worse case. Paul Waimea is very good at ignoring the context of a conversation to reach daft conclusions. Sorry, m...
by Paul Waine
Tue Sep 17, 2019 7:36 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 14139
Views: 260586

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

martin_p wrote:And they still didn’t say (or mean) ‘no problem’.


Hi martin, "no problem" and "no worries." Have a great day!
by Paul Waine
Tue Sep 17, 2019 7:35 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 14139
Views: 260586

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

Have you really typed that garbage above? You have added the word "actual" and then used the word you have added to be the basis for your argument against whether there is validity in a worst case (not actual worst case) scenario versus a base case scenario Scenario Modelling is a standar...
by Paul Waine
Mon Sep 16, 2019 11:51 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 14139
Views: 260586

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

Yep, fair enough. The magistrates court wouldn't be saying we've "no problem" with this potential act of murder though which is what your original post said. That is the point. Hi aggi, I don't recall being the first to reference a murder - I believe I was only referring to the act of pro...
by Paul Waine
Mon Sep 16, 2019 11:47 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 14139
Views: 260586

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

Well, the only way an acceptable deal gets through is if 50+ Labour MPs back it, which is possible as they have been pretty useless at making their minds up, but yeah, still hope for a deal. The article though is full of stuff to undermine yellowhammer, rather than accept the possibility that it is...
by Paul Waine
Mon Sep 16, 2019 7:59 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 14139
Views: 260586

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

We’re talking about the specifics of this prorogation, not in general, the issue being the reasons given to the Queen for it happening versus reality (which according to the Scottish Court is the stymie parliamentary debate on Brexit). Repealing the fixed term parliament act was actually part of th...
by Paul Waine
Mon Sep 16, 2019 7:56 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 14139
Views: 260586

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

If you murdered someone a magistrates court would say "not for us to decide on" but I don't think anyone would equate that to them saying "no problem". Not quite, aggi. If you are accused of murder, the magistrates court will say that proceedings must go to a higher court. That ...
by Paul Waine
Sun Sep 15, 2019 11:33 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 14139
Views: 260586

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

I’m not sure you’ll find that definition of ‘no problem’ in any dictionary! The English and Irish courts haven’t expressed whether it’s a problem or not. Johnson has made the same mistake and was criticised for claiming that the High Court has ruled prorogation legal. I'm pretty sure prorogation is...
by Paul Waine
Sun Sep 15, 2019 11:27 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 14139
Views: 260586

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

bobinho wrote:What are “extreme brexiteers”?


I'm making a guess they are LibDems…. though, I'm not really sure any more (are any of us)?
by Paul Waine
Sun Sep 15, 2019 11:23 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 14139
Views: 260586

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

Not even close to being right for the English and Irish courts, they both said ‘not for us to decide on’. Hi Martin, isn't that what "no problem" means - it's "not for us to decide on." I think the legal term for English high court was "non-jurisdictionable." It's funn...
by Paul Waine
Sun Sep 15, 2019 10:44 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 14139
Views: 260586

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

Haven't seen it. Will scroll back and have a look He's just saying its "Project Fear" He's got nothing to back it up. I don't have a lot of faith in governmental institutions, but if they are not doing their job if they don't have a plan for all the scenarios. Add the fact that "base...
by Paul Waine
Sun Sep 15, 2019 9:47 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Gareth Thomas' HIV diagnosis
Replies: 40
Views: 2216

Re: Gareth Thomas' HIV diagnosis

Gareth Edwards was on tv during the week. I think it was a follow up to his programme last year on homophobia in football. I'm not on Twitter. If I was this would be my message. Good luck, Gareth. I hope your continue in good health and you can manage whatever health conditions you need to manage. A...
by Paul Waine
Sun Sep 15, 2019 9:36 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 14139
Views: 260586

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

Manifesto commitment after winning a majority in a GE is trumped by an advisory referendum? You'd need a referendum that wasn't close AND a simple "yes" or "No" AND not to live in an parliamentary democracy. But yeah, and that would be "unforgivable"? Aye right Hi Lanc...
by Paul Waine
Sun Sep 15, 2019 9:31 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 14139
Views: 260586

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

Do you have a link in which EU officials were directly quoted? All I’ve seen is “EU sources” which could be anyone, or just invented. I think you are right, Andrew. I've only seen journalists reporting these comments from "sources." That can often be journalist speak for "the top per...
by Paul Waine
Sun Sep 15, 2019 2:41 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 14139
Views: 260586

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

Labour have to give the country a credible Brexit choice to vote for rather than the “in or out” debacle of before. Putting May’s deal before the electorate would be pointless, and a Labour Brexit would command support from more than a few Labour MPs and supporters. Yes, but what is credible about ...
by Paul Waine
Sun Sep 15, 2019 2:38 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Should Vydra start?
Replies: 66
Views: 2627

Re: Should Vydra start?

FactualFrank wrote:Taylor, Hendrick, Vydra in.

Pieters, Lennon, Wood make way.


Hi Frank, I wasn't at the AMEX and no stream. What did Vydra do other than lay it back to Hendrick? He was on for around 20 mins, so you must have seen more than one lay back?
by Paul Waine
Sun Sep 15, 2019 2:10 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 14139
Views: 260586

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

I fear for the LibDems that those they’ve accepted into their fold might one day return to the Tories after getting elected under the LibDem banner. Hi Andrew, aren't some of the new LibDems ex-Labour MPs? I guess Jo Swinson is going for the big gamble: add some remain MPs from both Labour and Cons...
by Paul Waine
Sun Sep 15, 2019 2:00 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Grosicki?
Replies: 19
Views: 2706

Re: Grosicki?

Wondered whether folk think Grosicki would have been worth the extra million? For me football has plenty of gamblers, boozers, druggies and wife beaters. We might have a few of our own. He looks exciting every time I see him and I wish we’d taken the risk. Wasn't the issue (one of the issues) that ...
by Paul Waine
Sun Sep 15, 2019 9:56 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: MOTD
Replies: 21
Views: 1828

Re: MOTD

THEWELLERNUT70 wrote:One of the best goals you will see this weekend wasn't deemed worthy of analysis!


Hey, isn't it enough that MotD saved the best 'til last.

A great goal, a beautiful goal. That's all we need, Worth staying up for (motd was on late last night).

UTC
by Paul Waine
Sun Sep 15, 2019 9:48 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brighton v Burnley - Player Ratings
Replies: 70
Views: 3623

Re: Brighton v Burnley - Player Ratings

I didn't get to the Amex yesterday - and didn't watch on a stream. Rebecca Myers, ratings in the Sunday Times match report contrast a little from many posters on here. Burnley: Pope 7, Lowton 6, Tarkowski 7, Mee 7, Pieters 7, Lennon 6 (Hendrick 58min, 8), Cork 7 (Vydra 77min, 6), Westwood 7, McNeil ...
by Paul Waine
Sun Sep 15, 2019 9:42 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 14139
Views: 260586

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

Don’t panic — we’re not as doomed by Brexit as defeatist officials tell us #4 Aldrick's conclusions It is entirely plausible that after a no-deal Brexit there will be no M20 tailback — or at least one no worse than the 20-mile single-lane queue of lorries under Operation Stack. Food, fuel and medic...
by Paul Waine
Sun Sep 15, 2019 9:40 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 14139
Views: 260586

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

Don’t panic — we’re not as doomed by Brexit as defeatist officials tell us #3 Bank of England The Bank’s updated “worst-case scenario” is even more specious. In November last year it warned of a recession in which GDP shrank 8 per cent, deeper than the 6.2 per cent peak-to-trough decline in the fin...
by Paul Waine
Sun Sep 15, 2019 9:38 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 14139
Views: 260586

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

Don’t panic — we’re not as doomed by Brexit as defeatist officials tell us #2 Yellowhammer Yellowhammer warned that the flow of Dover-to-Calais lorry traffic could more than halve as trucks sat on the tarmac for two and a half days owing to “lack of trader readiness combined with limited space in F...
by Paul Waine
Sun Sep 15, 2019 9:37 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 14139
Views: 260586

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

Once or twice (that's an ironic understatement, of course) we've debated "experts" and "predictions" of what will happen if/when UK leaves the EU27. There's been a couple of "predictions" in the press, recently. The first, the BoE's updated "prediction" and th...
by Paul Waine
Sat Sep 14, 2019 8:18 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 14139
Views: 260586

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

Your not wrong, plus the black bags in the trees with poo in them. All poo bags should be biodegradable! I know ours are. But they go in the bin, not in the trees. I don't get the idea of dog owners carrying a bag for their dog - and then thinking the dirty stuff will just disappear if they throw i...
by Paul Waine
Sat Sep 14, 2019 5:24 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Hendrick goal
Replies: 67
Views: 5622

Re: Hendrick goal

Pope - Pieters - Westwood (I think) - Jeff and beats his man - McNeil - Vydra one touch - and Jeff has continued his run to smash it home!

Beautiful football. A beautiful goal.
by Paul Waine
Sat Sep 14, 2019 5:02 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 14139
Views: 260586

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

When you go canvassing your told what you can and cannot say. Mainly you just ask if you can count on their vote and then ask what their 3 biggest issues are. You normally have to toe any party line if questions are asked which I would do. Regardless of who comes to my door, when I'm asked about &q...
by Paul Waine
Sat Sep 14, 2019 4:56 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Sussex by the Sea versus MIGHTY CLARETS
Replies: 283
Views: 5686

Re: Sussex by the Sea versus MIGHTY CLARETS

Vegas Claret wrote:we've not had a single attempt on goal second half


My "like" was added just after we'd scored, Vegas.

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by Paul Waine
Sat Sep 14, 2019 4:36 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Sussex by the Sea versus MIGHTY CLARETS
Replies: 283
Views: 5686

Re: Sussex by the Sea versus MIGHTY CLARETS

Like a new signing?
by Paul Waine
Sat Sep 14, 2019 4:18 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Sussex by the Sea versus MIGHTY CLARETS
Replies: 283
Views: 5686

Re: Sussex by the Sea versus MIGHTY CLARETS

BBC says Ben Gibson on for Lennon?

and now corrected.
by Paul Waine
Sat Sep 14, 2019 3:47 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Sussex by the Sea versus MIGHTY CLARETS
Replies: 283
Views: 5686

Re: Sussex by the Sea versus MIGHTY CLARETS

BBC saying Brighton on top - tactical shift to 4 at the back....

and ended the half with 3 good chances...

Come on you Clarets.
by Paul Waine
Sat Sep 14, 2019 3:43 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Sussex by the Sea versus MIGHTY CLARETS
Replies: 283
Views: 5686

Re: Sussex by the Sea versus MIGHTY CLARETS

and Spurs 4 up

win today and we go above Palace - currently in 4th

Come on you Clarets!
by Paul Waine
Sat Sep 14, 2019 3:31 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 14139
Views: 260586

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

Just back from a service for the Dunkirk little ships - commemorating all the volunteers who didn't make it back. Chaplain (I'm guessing Navy...) said that there were 850 little ships volunteered, including 100 from Teddington (where service was) and the Upper Thames. Of these 850, 200 didn't make i...
by Paul Waine
Sat Sep 14, 2019 12:30 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 14139
Views: 260586

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

Given that we've been able to opt out of the Schengen Agreement, the EMU, the charter for human rights and the justice agreements, I think if we were to stay in, we would certainly continue to have opt-outs in other key areas of integration. There has always been a "second-tier" arrangeme...
by Paul Waine
Fri Sep 13, 2019 9:00 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Dyche speaks on Drinkwater
Replies: 82
Views: 4220

Re: ARTICLE: Dyche speaks on Drinkwater

Maybe Vydra should start going out on the lash and causing himself some self inflicted injuries then? Not really sure why Drinkwater gets a second chance while Vydra never been given one in the first place. Certainly has his favourites does our Sean. I remember Matej Vydra starting a number of game...
by Paul Waine
Fri Sep 13, 2019 12:26 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Dyche speaks on Drinkwater
Replies: 82
Views: 4220

Re: ARTICLE: Dyche speaks on Drinkwater

Sean Dyche is handling this exactly how a good manager should handle it. He's handled the public/media with a polite "nothing to see here, move along" statement. Whatever has gone on inside the club stays inside the club. He's given DD a chance to sort things out ("he's old enough.......
by Paul Waine
Fri Sep 13, 2019 12:04 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 14139
Views: 260586

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

Brexitcast - what's all that about? 4 tv people sitting with their headphones on chatting amongst themselves in front of the cameras. Has the BBC totally lost it?

Andrew Neil's was, generally, a good show.
by Paul Waine
Fri Sep 13, 2019 12:02 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 14139
Views: 260586

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

Straight imports/exports won't be affected, but the UK's own oil, and oil refined in the UK will be at a competitive advantage because domestic wages and overheads are (I assume) paid in Sterling. Obviously this advantage is offset to a greater or lesser degree by the tariffs. But the point is that...
by Paul Waine
Wed Sep 11, 2019 11:37 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 14139
Views: 260586

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

Not that we didn't all know already that brexit was all about disaster capitalists but it seems the extent to which the rich, establishment types are playing the working class is finally being revealed. https://bylinetimes.com/2019/09/11/brexit-disaster-capitalism-8-billion-bet-on-no-deal-crash-out...
by Paul Waine
Wed Sep 11, 2019 11:31 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 14139
Views: 260586

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

It's interesting that a 4.7% tariff on petrol is going to make petrol exports uncompetitive but a drop in the value of Sterling of about 15% doesn't offset it. Or is operation yellowhammer assuming that exchange rates will shoot up again post-Brexit? A drop in exchange rates is a big boost to expor...
by Paul Waine
Wed Sep 11, 2019 8:48 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brighton (away) - General Info Thread
Replies: 25
Views: 1814

Re: Brighton (away) - General Info Thread

I used the park and ride service last season. I don't think there was a charge for either the car park or the bus - I think it's covered by their match ticket and free travel scheme. The only draw back was that we were just too late to get in the park and ride just off the A27. We ended up at the ra...
by Paul Waine
Wed Sep 11, 2019 8:38 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Bury : No Wages
Replies: 704
Views: 41980

Re: Bury : No Wages

Councillor James Daly, what is his connection with Dale? How many £s does he expect Bury Council to be able to spend on buying a football club? I'd assume one or two of Bury's councillors were supporters of their town club - which is not unreasonable - will they all have to remove themselves from an...
by Paul Waine
Tue Sep 10, 2019 8:50 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Arise Sir Geoffrey...
Replies: 89
Views: 2663

Re: Arise Sir Geoffrey...

First things first, I don't support any "honours" or "lordships" for anyone. Yes, "well done in your civil service role," "well done as an MP," "well done as a business person/banker" and "well done for being good at a sport" etc etc etc - ...
by Paul Waine
Mon Sep 09, 2019 9:35 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Lock Stock and Two Smoking Barrels...
Replies: 11
Views: 1789

Re: Lock Stock and Two Smoking Barrels...

The more accurate report is towards the end of article: the guy was using the butt of his shotgun to hammer the car's windscreen - and then the gun went off.
by Paul Waine
Sun Sep 08, 2019 3:17 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Drink water injury
Replies: 463
Views: 25293

Re: Drink water injury

From a Sky New reporter on Twitter: "Danny Drinkwater will meet Sean Dyche tmrw to discuss future, after SSN confirmed reports he was beaten up whilst drunk outside Manchester nightclub last w/end. Out for several weeks with injured ankle. #cfc aware and supporting, but #burnley will take lead...
by Paul Waine
Sun Sep 08, 2019 2:06 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Sir Mo
Replies: 65
Views: 2501

Re: Sir Mo

Farah running in the Great North Run with “Sir Mo” plastered across his front. Brilliant athlete, but this just makes me cringe!! No. Some young kid arrives in the UK, grows up with "no advantages" - except he can run. Of course we should all celebrate that Mo Farah has represented his co...
by Paul Waine
Sun Sep 08, 2019 2:01 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Guiding Me Home and Away:Dave Thomas
Replies: 15
Views: 1012

Re: Guiding Me Home and Away:Dave Thomas

Brilliant player Dave Thomas...Younger Clarets say Defour best they’ve seen in a Clarets shirt...You never saw Dave Thomas...And how incredible that he and his dad refused to allow Leeds to gazump Burnley ... I will certainly be buying this book ! God Bless You Dave. Extract from the book - a secon...
by Paul Waine
Sat Sep 07, 2019 9:27 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Guiding Me Home and Away:Dave Thomas
Replies: 15
Views: 1012

Re: Guiding Me Home and Away:Dave Thomas

I've got a reminder from my opticians for my annual eye check. My Dad had glaucoma. I'll ring on Monday to make my appointment.

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