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- Sat Apr 27, 2024 4:56 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Man Utd (a)
- Replies: 368
- Views: 11655
Re: Man Utd (a)
FT 1-1
- Sat Apr 27, 2024 4:51 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Man Utd (a)
- Replies: 368
- Views: 11655
Re: Man Utd (a)
INJURY TIME
Man Utd 1-1 Burnley
Antony blasts the ball straight against the arm of Vitinho. They quickly check it but it's not given. Never a pen.
Six minutes added on.
Man Utd 1-1 Burnley
Antony blasts the ball straight against the arm of Vitinho. They quickly check it but it's not given. Never a pen.
Six minutes added on.
- Sat Apr 27, 2024 4:50 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Man Utd (a)
- Replies: 368
- Views: 11655
Re: Man Utd (a)
'Onana is nowhere near the ball' Man Utd 1-1 Burnley Stephen Warnock Former England and Liverpool defender on Final Score Andre Onana comes to punch the ball in the air and punches straight through the player, Zeki Amdouni. I am pleased about this being given, because the keeper wipes out the forwar...
- Sat Apr 27, 2024 4:49 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Man Utd (a)
- Replies: 368
- Views: 11655
Re: Man Utd (a)
BBC quotes:
GOAL - Man Utd 1-1 Burnley
Zeki Amdouni (88 mins)
Zeki Amdouni wins the penalty and then scores it. Pandemonium in the away end as the Burnley striker sends Andre Onana the wrong way.
Burnley deserve this.
GOAL - Man Utd 1-1 Burnley
Zeki Amdouni (88 mins)
Zeki Amdouni wins the penalty and then scores it. Pandemonium in the away end as the Burnley striker sends Andre Onana the wrong way.
Burnley deserve this.
- Sat Apr 27, 2024 4:47 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Man Utd (a)
- Replies: 368
- Views: 11655
Re: Man Utd (a)
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GOAL - Man Utd 1-1 Burnley
Zeki Amdouni
GOAL - Man Utd 1-1 Burnley
Zeki Amdouni
- Sat Apr 27, 2024 4:46 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Man Utd (a)
- Replies: 368
- Views: 11655
Re: Man Utd (a)
Sent Onana the wrong way!
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- Sat Apr 27, 2024 4:45 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Man Utd (a)
- Replies: 368
- Views: 11655
Re: Man Utd (a)
VAR - ref looked at it - and penalty given.
For Burnley, if anyone in doubt.
For Burnley, if anyone in doubt.
- Sat Apr 27, 2024 4:39 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Man Utd (a)
- Replies: 368
- Views: 11655
Re: Man Utd (a)
Simon Stone BBC Sport at Old Trafford It was interesting to see Erik ten Hag and Vincent Kompany having a debate about the merits of a potential penalty as Alejandro Garnacho went down in the box just then. Ten Hag was indicating it was the third time he had been brought down, Kompany was saying the...
- Sat Apr 27, 2024 4:36 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Man Utd (a)
- Replies: 368
- Views: 11655
Re: Man Utd (a)
From BBC Sport Get Involved #bbcfootball, text 81111 (UK only - standard rates apply) or WhatsApp 03301231826 SMS Message: How poor is this United team this season? +1 GD with three games to go? If Burnley nick a winner is goes back to 0. With the subs ETH has made you wonder where goals will come f...
- Sat Apr 27, 2024 3:48 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Man Utd (a)
- Replies: 368
- Views: 11655
Re: Man Utd (a)
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- Sat Apr 27, 2024 3:39 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Man Utd (a)
- Replies: 368
- Views: 11655
Re: Man Utd (a)
Come on Burnley.
Another save from Onana. Foster gets better of Maguire for pace, but saved by Onana. (Quoting Phil Bird).
Another save from Onana. Foster gets better of Maguire for pace, but saved by Onana. (Quoting Phil Bird).
- Sat Apr 27, 2024 3:30 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Clarets+ Listen Live ????
- Replies: 5
- Views: 674
Re: Clarets+ Listen Live ????
Can anyone explain how to do this? I have logged in to my account, put in my credit card details, had a confirmation email, but when I try to find the commentary it all becomes a mystery. But I do end up with a screen showing: 'Available packages to follow Burnley' which doesn't allow me to discove...
- Fri Apr 26, 2024 7:14 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: JJ Watt...
- Replies: 333
- Views: 22766
Re: JJ Watt...
Just spotted this very odd comment. No idea why people take offence at everything nowadays because there really is no need. It is well acknowledged the different between British and American humour, it wasn't a criticism of somewhere I have spent a lot of time, the world would be boring if we were ...
- Fri Apr 26, 2024 7:07 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Prague and Vienna Advice - Short stay
- Replies: 25
- Views: 1464
Re: Prague and Vienna Advice - Short stay
Channel 5 tonight, Michael Palin visits Prague. It may give you some ideas.
- Fri Apr 19, 2024 7:43 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
- Replies: 12778
- Views: 1268674
Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
This isn't actually true, because the directors all got cash for their shares, the smaller shareholders had half of theirs in a credit note. This was probably illegal but it wasn't challenged. How do you know that ALK will act legally in respect of dividends and smaller shareholders, when they prob...
- Fri Apr 19, 2024 5:33 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
- Replies: 12778
- Views: 1268674
Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Hi Paul, why do you think it's better for the club to have a multinational mix in the ownership? It's a large world we all live in. I think it's great that people from several corners of the world all want to invest in Burnley Football Club. I also think it's good for the town of Burnley and the re...
- Fri Apr 19, 2024 5:20 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
- Replies: 12778
- Views: 1268674
Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
And with a share in ownership, no doubt they expect a share in the profits. All shareholders, including the "small shareholders" who have retained their shares in BFCHL will receive the same dividend per share as and when any dividends are declared. Just as all the previous directors who sold their...
- Tue Apr 16, 2024 11:29 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
- Replies: 12778
- Views: 1268674
Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
No other info on his instagram page. I will surmise I don’t think any of these guys are billionaires, unfortunately. ALK and VSP isn't about "billionaires," New. It's about Burnley giving a lot of wealthy millionaires the opportunity to have a share in ownership of Burnley football club. It's the v...
- Sat Apr 13, 2024 11:25 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: JJ Watt...
- Replies: 333
- Views: 22766
Re: JJ Watt...
That's my point, it doesn't make sense for him to invest a large sum of money into the club in the circumstances many are describing on here. Therefore I don't believe he has. I think it's exactly as he says, he want to learn the business side of the Sports Industry. The question is whether he woul...
- Fri Apr 12, 2024 9:57 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: JJ Watt...
- Replies: 333
- Views: 22766
Re: JJ Watt...
Interesting to hear him suggest this is basically a role he's doing to gain experience in running a football club. I wonder if that's the big indicator of what his real reason is for getting so involved in English football. Doesn't he say in the video that his long term plan is to own an English fo...
- Fri Apr 12, 2024 7:58 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
- Replies: 10019
- Views: 1052093
Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
We've discussed "material uncertainty" with respect to Burnley's latest set of accounts. We've also seen that Blackburn Rovers accounts includes a "material uncertainty" statement from their auditors. The same "material uncertainty" is mentioned by the Guardian article reviewing Everton's latest acc...
- Thu Apr 11, 2024 7:28 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
- Replies: 10019
- Views: 1052093
Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
Is administration this season a possibility or will the Premier let it drag on before refusing 777 ownership so the points deduction is next season ? Martin Samuel, The Times, 10th April 2024 Convenient punishments keep Everton above water A cynic would say the independent commission had a quick lo...
- Thu Apr 11, 2024 5:08 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: JJ Watt...
- Replies: 333
- Views: 22766
Re: JJ Watt...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uG6XIp9F7HI ^JJ on the overlap - a good watch, though some of the questions he gets asked are a bit daft/doesn't give him chance to properly respond... Definitely got the impression that he has more pull/influence at the club than some on here seemed to think. Great ...
- Wed Apr 10, 2024 5:35 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Burnley FC Accounts 2022/23
- Replies: 268
- Views: 12832
Re: Club debts spiral
Are we sleepwalking to oblivion? Always doubted Paces motives and things are not looking good. Kieran Maguire says Burnley will have to take action to avoid future financial breaches after their 22-23 accounts revealed that their debt has grown to £81million after a £27m loss. Only two years of par...
- Wed Apr 10, 2024 5:19 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Henry Winter
- Replies: 12
- Views: 1779
Re: Henry Winter
That is a bit of a surprise. He's got a full page column in today's print edition.ClaretTony wrote: ↑Wed Apr 10, 2024 4:21 pmBeen made redundant at The Times - must admit to being stunned at this news
- Wed Apr 10, 2024 5:07 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Relegation
- Replies: 76
- Views: 5081
Re: Relegation
The original point was: is there any evidence and I pointed to it. We don't know the ins and outs of the finances to the extent that we know whether the material uncertainty has been dealt with...! I doubt it very much it has and the intention to sell still exists. There is also a note to the accou...
- Wed Apr 10, 2024 10:48 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Relegation
- Replies: 76
- Views: 5081
Re: Relegation
I know you don't understand any of this but at least accept that when auditors write on legal document that the club is planning to sell - the club is planning to sell. Just this bit, Pete. You are misreading BDO's "material uncertainty" note that they've included in their audit report. The most im...
- Tue Apr 09, 2024 5:04 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: POLL: If we were a Premier League Club - question about playing a game abroad…
- Replies: 21
- Views: 1003
Re: POLL: If we were a Premier League Club - question about playing a game abroad…
Just think, 19 home games with £20 million income per game, £380 million per season... but, still not much more than half the revenue of City.
What does the away team get for playing in USA? I'd assume that would also need to be £20 million per game. (Remember, "£20 [million] is plenty").
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What does the away team get for playing in USA? I'd assume that would also need to be £20 million per game. (Remember, "£20 [million] is plenty").
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- Mon Apr 08, 2024 9:39 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: I’m so sick of Kompany
- Replies: 349
- Views: 16702
Re: I’m so sick of Kompany
I don't think we are on the same page here. You don't think the high number of goals we have conceded at the end of both halves has been been a recurrent problem of lack of discipline . I wish it was the odd worldy we were talking about and suspect maybe you haven't played sport much. Apologies if ...
- Mon Apr 08, 2024 3:03 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: 'The Project'...
- Replies: 58
- Views: 2650
Re: 'The Project'...
Of course. Your post read as if it was downplaying the material uncertainty note by saying accounts were still prepared on a going concern basis whereas we both know that accounts being based on a break up basis is pretty catastrophic. Maybe that wasn't your intention but that's how it read to me. ...
- Mon Apr 08, 2024 2:51 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Everton - 2 more points deducted.
- Replies: 72
- Views: 4631
Re: Everton
Reported last week that Everton had asked that the latest sanction wouldn't be announced until after all their game at w/end.Rick_Muller wrote: ↑Mon Apr 08, 2024 2:06 pmCurious they waited till after our game against them, and it looks like they took Luton’s result into consideration too
Forest did the same earlier.
- Mon Apr 08, 2024 11:43 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: 'The Project'...
- Replies: 58
- Views: 2650
- Mon Apr 08, 2024 11:13 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: 'The Project'...
- Replies: 58
- Views: 2650
Re: 'The Project'...
One of the features of the club's notion of buying to sell (under ALK/VSL) is that there have been very few actual sales of note the most profitable being Collins and Cornet and they didn't produce the reported cost of Beyer before amortisation. When you look at the money the club has lost on Wegho...
- Mon Apr 08, 2024 10:57 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Relegation
- Replies: 76
- Views: 5081
Re: Relegation
[quote=ClaretPete001 post_id=2314314 time=1712566599 user_id=7375 Hence the auditors notes to the accounts to the effect that they have a concern that player sales will not generate much cash and if they don't the club cannot be considered a going concern. [/quote] Hi Pete, don't you think the new f...
- Mon Apr 08, 2024 10:39 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: 'The Project'...
- Replies: 58
- Views: 2650
Re: 'The Project'...
tbf the club have managed to meet all the demands placed upon them, which is some going when you look at the detail of outflow. That said last summers chase for money: factoring a portion of 3 years Premier League revenues and replacing a £39.7m loan with a £70m one (that has more onerous terms tha...
- Sun Apr 07, 2024 7:42 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Interesting that potential contract clause mentioned again.
- Replies: 61
- Views: 3644
Re: Interesting that potential contract clause mentioned again.
I've worked it out, the deal is with Gareth Southgate: once James Trafford has played 75% of Burnley's Premier League games Southgate is obliged to pick him for England squad. Of course, the more important contract clause is the one that says how many games Trafford needs to play before he gets Engl...
- Sun Apr 07, 2024 7:35 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: The cost of playing out badly
- Replies: 55
- Views: 3065
Re: The cost of playing out badly
Just a fallacious argument Paul. You could equally argue on the same basis that top teams concede goals so what's the issue except top teams don't concede 67 of them. I understand games are won and lost on the number of goals scored by the two teams in a game. I don't think anyone is arguing about ...
- Sun Apr 07, 2024 4:45 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: The cost of playing out badly
- Replies: 55
- Views: 3065
Re: The cost of playing out badly
Top teams never ever make mistakes that lead to goals being given away, or do they?
- Sun Apr 07, 2024 4:42 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Man U/ Liverpool
- Replies: 45
- Views: 2032
- Sat Apr 06, 2024 4:55 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Toffees vs Clarets Match Thread
- Replies: 494
- Views: 16598
Re: Toffees vs Clarets Match Thread
Oh well. We go again next game.
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- Sat Apr 06, 2024 4:22 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Toffees vs Clarets Match Thread
- Replies: 494
- Views: 16598
Re: Toffees vs Clarets Match Thread
Vincent Kompany 38th birthday on Wednesday.
Come on Burnley, let's give Vincent an early birthday present.
Come on Burnley, let's give Vincent an early birthday present.
- Sat Apr 06, 2024 4:20 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Toffees vs Clarets Match Thread
- Replies: 494
- Views: 16598
Re: Toffees vs Clarets Match Thread
Vitinho on, Fofana off.
- Sat Apr 06, 2024 4:19 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Toffees vs Clarets Match Thread
- Replies: 494
- Views: 16598
Re: Toffees vs Clarets Match Thread
Muric saves with his legs, R5 live say he's made up for his earlier mistake.
Come on you Clarets.
Come on you Clarets.
- Sat Apr 06, 2024 4:15 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Toffees vs Clarets Match Thread
- Replies: 494
- Views: 16598
Re: Toffees vs Clarets Match Thread
Perhaps we can all agree on my modification of your statement.123EasyasBFC wrote: ↑Sat Apr 06, 2024 4:00 pmPeople on here have been dying for Burnley goalkeeper mistake, it’s laughable
Come on, let's get behind the team, including the goalkeeper, whoever is wearing the shirt.
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- Sat Apr 06, 2024 3:51 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Toffees vs Clarets Match Thread
- Replies: 494
- Views: 16598
Re: Toffees vs Clarets Match Thread
Trafford v Muric thread is going to be interesting later.
Come on you Clarets.
Come on you Clarets.
- Thu Apr 04, 2024 11:18 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Burnley FC Accounts 2022/23
- Replies: 268
- Views: 12832
Re: Administration?
Hi Paul, You've been very deliberate with your wording in these posts but I think you do understand what is being asked. It may be correct to say that no payment has been made to the directors, but I believe the general sentiment is that they have taken money out of the club and they will benefit f...
- Thu Apr 04, 2024 11:13 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Burnley FC Accounts 2022/23
- Replies: 268
- Views: 12832
Re: Administration?
I’ve read your posts but I find your answers are a little ambiguous. Are you saying that there is absolutely no way that Pace and co can’t personally gain from the management fees paid to the affiliate company? I find this hard to believe but will happily defer to people with more knowledge. Could ...
- Thu Apr 04, 2024 10:53 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Burnley FC Accounts 2022/23
- Replies: 268
- Views: 12832
Re: Burnley FC Accounts 2022/23
Thanks to Mods for merging these 2 threads on the club's accounts. The most interesting thing about the accounts for the accounting period ending 31st July 2023 is that they were signed off by both Alan Pace - and no director would sign off the accounts until they have been approved by the board of ...
- Thu Apr 04, 2024 10:18 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Burnley FC Accounts 2022/23
- Replies: 268
- Views: 12832
Re: Burnley FC Accounts 2022/23
In what way, Pete? That Calder Vale had repaid the debt, or that BFCHL had cancelled the debt, or that Calder Vale had never borrowed the £124 million in the first place?ClaretPete001 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2024 9:27 pmWhat would the balance sheet look like without that £124 million inter company debt...!
- Thu Apr 04, 2024 10:16 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Burnley FC Accounts 2022/23
- Replies: 268
- Views: 12832
Re: Administration?
But it seems to me you’ve insinuated that Pace and co haven’t taken any remuneration, unless I’ve misunderstood your position? It would seem to me highly likely to me that the management fee was paid to a company of which Pace and co are directors that have or will pay Pace and co by way of dividen...