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by AndrewJB
Wed Nov 20, 2019 1:29 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: General Election Is On
Replies: 2502
Views: 30564

Re: General Election Is On

If the labour party was sensible, moderate, all inclusive and economy focused they would have walked this election, the marxist momentum group have done nothing for the lower income British person they claim to be in existence for. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/mar/18/revealed-how-incre...
by AndrewJB
Wed Nov 20, 2019 7:55 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: General Election Is On
Replies: 2502
Views: 30564

Re: General Election Is On

That's quite an impressive river of unsubstantiated tabloid rhetoric. Those $hitrags have even managed to convince you that you're smarter than everyone, too! Risky gamble, that, but I admire your confidence. Here's an interesting titbit; when I type my postcode into the Openreach fibre checker, I ...
by AndrewJB
Wed Nov 20, 2019 7:34 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: General Election Is On
Replies: 2502
Views: 30564

Re: General Election Is On

I just checked BB10 4BX and virgin media are offering 39 mbps. Hardly the dark ages is it? Obviously that's not 1gbps, but if you hang on another 10 years (the timeframe Labour have promised this to be implimented in) I'm sure it will be available. Probably wirelessly. Probably cheaper than the sta...
by AndrewJB
Tue Nov 19, 2019 9:32 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: General Election Is On
Replies: 2502
Views: 30564

Re: General Election Is On

I haven't seen them say it would apply immediately but if you have fair enough. You said it won't apply to the NHS (I agree with you). The shadow chancellor said it would apply to everybody and it's a realistic ambition over the next decade or words to that effect. So the Tories were right to pick ...
by AndrewJB
Tue Nov 19, 2019 8:34 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: General Election Is On
Replies: 2502
Views: 30564

Re: General Election Is On

Darthlaw wrote:Politician lies, in other news water is discovered to be wet.

If you’re not voting, then it won’t matter. If you are voting then it matters that one politician in particular is lying all the time, and not being pulled up on it.
by AndrewJB
Tue Nov 19, 2019 7:41 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: General Election Is On
Replies: 2502
Views: 30564

Re: General Election Is On

Full Lie Mode now unlocked and operated by Johnson. Three fictions in ten seconds! https://amp.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... ssion=true
by AndrewJB
Mon Nov 18, 2019 1:29 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: General Election Is On
Replies: 2502
Views: 30564

Re: General Election Is On

Johnson offering business rate cuts today. Just like they had in their 2015 and 2017 manifestos and didn’t implement. Third time lucky?
by AndrewJB
Mon Nov 18, 2019 7:55 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: General Election Is On
Replies: 2502
Views: 30564

Re: General Election Is On

Swizzlestick wrote:It’s also a four year old interview shared by Toby Young.

It was this kind of ‘smear Corbyn constantly but provide absolutely no coherent positive plan yourself’ that resulted in the Tories losing their majority last time out.

He’s doing a Dave TV election.
by AndrewJB
Mon Nov 18, 2019 7:53 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: General Election Is On
Replies: 2502
Views: 30564

Re: General Election Is On

Tories found to have woefully missed environmental targets...again. Greens and Labour plan to get us up to zero net emissions the fastest with both offering significant economic boosts. LibDems not far behind with an investment fund (just need a plan), and the Tories? Johnson not even attending the ...
by AndrewJB
Mon Nov 18, 2019 4:19 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: General Election Is On
Replies: 2502
Views: 30564

Re: General Election Is On

That's what I said. The plan was that until 2020 the National Debt would still be increasing, while the budget deficit was being reduced. Then in 2020 the budget would finally balance and from that year or 2021, they could start repaying the debt. If you criticise Cameron's government for not reduc...
by AndrewJB
Mon Nov 18, 2019 3:49 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: General Election Is On
Replies: 2502
Views: 30564

Re: General Election Is On

AndyClaret wrote:A smear from the Guardian :lol:

The Guardian reports whatever it likes, unlike the propaganda machines like the telegraph, Mail, and Sun, which have different owners, but report the news in exactly the same way - supporting their man.
by AndrewJB
Sun Nov 17, 2019 11:01 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: General Election Is On
Replies: 2502
Views: 30564

Re: General Election Is On

This fella is barking mad. Have you seen the polls Andrew? We hopefully won't see another Labour government for a very long time. The people have not forgotten how Labour trashed the economy last time they got their grubby hands on the purse strings. There was a worldwide financial crisis, over ten...
by AndrewJB
Sun Nov 17, 2019 6:01 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: General Election Is On
Replies: 2502
Views: 30564

Re: General Election Is On

AndyClaret wrote:Here come the Corbyn apologists with their whataboutary.

Johnson says racist things, in print and in public.Corbyn has been part of the fight against racism. Rather than attempting to smear Corbyn, why don’t you be positive and dig up an example of Johnson’s crusade against racism?
by AndrewJB
Sun Nov 17, 2019 2:01 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: General Election Is On
Replies: 2502
Views: 30564

Re: General Election Is On

Corbyn supported Black people "going back home" This is copied from Natalie Rowe’s Twitter account: “LET ME REMIND EVERYONE. I was at a Party in the early 90’s where #BorisJohnson came up to me making Monkey noises and tried to hand me a Water Melon. If you think that’s he’s fit to be PM ...
by AndrewJB
Sun Nov 17, 2019 1:52 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: General Election Is On
Replies: 2502
Views: 30564

Re: General Election Is On

With regards personal “sexual conduct” it’s strange how it affects some politicians and not other, It seemed to not affect Trump with his base and it helped Berlusconi. I think with Johnson it be the same in that the people who like him won’t be bothered and that those that hate him will be appalle...
by AndrewJB
Sun Nov 17, 2019 1:12 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: General Election Is On
Replies: 2502
Views: 30564

Re: General Election Is On

I agree. One of the problems at the Home Office was that the box tickers in the office completely misunderstood (deliberately or otherwise) the point of the targets and the point of wanting to deport illegal immigrants. They decided that if you deport a good hard working taxpayer it counts just the...
by AndrewJB
Sat Nov 16, 2019 8:25 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: General Election Is On
Replies: 2502
Views: 30564

Re: General Election Is On

It depends which of the interviews you heard. He has definitely said if other broadband companies don’t want to assist, they too will be taken over. Don’t take my word for that, I’m sure many news sites recorded it. perhaps that’s what he meant by opting out for compensation? I doubt it’ll spell th...
by AndrewJB
Sat Nov 16, 2019 1:38 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: General Election Is On
Replies: 2502
Views: 30564

Re: General Election Is On

And THAT is why I said Corbynomics has some appeal to many people. Many feel that public ownership will make things better by eliminating the profit incentive, others feel it would make things worse by removing competition. p.s. I would be interested to know if the public spending supporters like y...
by AndrewJB
Sat Nov 16, 2019 12:48 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: General Election Is On
Replies: 2502
Views: 30564

Re: General Election Is On

Whereas the BNP and the klu Klux Klan have endorsed the raving anti semite, Corbyn. You should know by now this isn’t true: https://evolvepolitics.com/murdochs-latest-ridiculous-corbyn-kkk-smear-conveniently-left-out-some-absolutely-crucial-facts/ The way Johnson resorts to dog whistle racism will ...
by AndrewJB
Sat Nov 16, 2019 12:36 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: General Election Is On
Replies: 2502
Views: 30564

Re: General Election Is On

Evening all, brief comment from me. I still think the appeal of Corbynomics is underestimated and Corbyn is closer to No. 10 than many think. This is the only reason Johnson is in power of course, he is the proven winner. The Tories last hope. That’s why they held their nose and made him PM. It wil...
by AndrewJB
Fri Nov 15, 2019 11:53 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: General Election Is On
Replies: 2502
Views: 30564

Re: General Election Is On

Ah, Labour members. Now I’m beginning to understand. I don’t have much respect for the Express but I think that you’ll find that just about every other paper has reported on this subject in exactly the same way. The link I provided gives you the policy ideas by Labour members in their own words, so...
by AndrewJB
Fri Nov 15, 2019 11:46 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: General Election Is On
Replies: 2502
Views: 30564

Re: General Election Is On

Hi Andrew, some questions, if I may. 1) so, is this British Broadband offering all these internet services? 2) Do we shut down BBC, because it's all available over BB? Do we end BBC license fee? I guess that's one way of making sure that over 75s get free licenses; 3) I assume just UK taxpayers? Ha...
by AndrewJB
Fri Nov 15, 2019 11:11 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: General Election Is On
Replies: 2502
Views: 30564

Re: General Election Is On

It is common knowledge that Corbyn's Labour party would drastically lower the inheritance tax threshold. Abolishing it altogether and replacing it with a 'gift tax' is just a way of clumsily re-modeling it. God knows how you think that drivel that you've churned up has any logical relevance to this...
by AndrewJB
Fri Nov 15, 2019 10:19 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: General Election Is On
Replies: 2502
Views: 30564

Re: General Election Is On

99% of people aged 16 - 44 acess the internet daily or almost daily. It would be illegal to force someone to apply online Okay, maybe it's changed? I helped someone apply for jobseekers / universal credit back in 2012, and I know they were told they had no choice but to apply online. That was the i...
by AndrewJB
Fri Nov 15, 2019 9:56 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: General Election Is On
Replies: 2502
Views: 30564

Re: General Election Is On

How would you determine who needs it? Interaction with government doesn't have to by online. I'm not suggesting we force them on people - as there are still a few who consider computers to be the work of the devil - but there are also quite a few people who can't afford internet access, and have to...
by AndrewJB
Fri Nov 15, 2019 9:40 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: General Election Is On
Replies: 2502
Views: 30564

Re: General Election Is On

dermotdermot wrote:No I haven’t. Just google Corbyn’s Gift Tax and you’ll see that it’s true.

Here - page 35 deal with the subject: https://labour.org.uk/wp-content/upload ... e-Many.pdf

A very different description to the Express link that takes the first search slot.
by AndrewJB
Fri Nov 15, 2019 9:28 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: General Election Is On
Replies: 2502
Views: 30564

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"provide every house with a simple compute device with a keyboard and a screen" why would this be necessary and how would it not be a waste of money? and on your other point after moving the goalposts I'd support full fibre coverage across the country just not in the way labour is proposi...
by AndrewJB
Fri Nov 15, 2019 9:14 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: General Election Is On
Replies: 2502
Views: 30564

Re: General Election Is On

Can I have free Sky Sports as well please? I take it you feel uneasy at padding Murdoch's pockets? We already offer television, books, music, art, and film over the internet. Why could Britain not have an integrated streaming service for all of this that is free at point of use, and pays out royalt...
by AndrewJB
Fri Nov 15, 2019 8:59 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: General Election Is On
Replies: 2502
Views: 30564

Re: General Election Is On

taio wrote:What a complete waste of money that would be.

A full fibre broadband network across the country could boost productivity by up to £60 Billion.
https://www.mobileeurope.co.uk/press-wi ... -openreach

How is that a waste of money?
by AndrewJB
Fri Nov 15, 2019 8:55 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: General Election Is On
Replies: 2502
Views: 30564

Re: General Election Is On

They'll pay for it all by taxing just about everything under the sun. I do wish they'd try and clarify the business of inheritance tax though. I seems to me that they want to abolish it altogether and replace it with a gift tax. This will prevent you leaving anything to your children. When you die,...
by AndrewJB
Fri Nov 15, 2019 8:46 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: General Election Is On
Replies: 2502
Views: 30564

Re: General Election Is On

Do Lab actually seriously budget for these pie in the sky ideas of free fibre /free education? Etc etc why stop there? why not make rail travel free and food free it’s as if they just choose the most ridiculous crowd pleasing guff ( regardless of cost/infastructure )and hope that “ Corbynomics” wil...
by AndrewJB
Fri Nov 15, 2019 6:47 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: FAKE NEWS - EU edition
Replies: 60
Views: 1789

Re: FAKE NEWS - EU edition

I understand Houseboy frustration about being called racist. The level of EU corruption was not clear in the referendum and the full extent is still not clear. I don't believe that was the reason why the referendum resulted in a leave vote. The issue is not if you believe in uncontrolled immigratio...
by AndrewJB
Fri Nov 15, 2019 1:31 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: General Election Is On
Replies: 2502
Views: 30564

Re: General Election Is On

That is how I feel, I live in Rossendale and voted Labour in 97,01 and 05 as I saw them left of centre, business minded knowing that they needed the private sector to grow to fund the public services. The problem with the current lot is that they have an ideological hatred of business, are not patr...
by AndrewJB
Fri Nov 15, 2019 8:39 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: General Election Is On
Replies: 2502
Views: 30564

Re: General Election Is On

John McDonnell talking about free broadband on Radio 4 this morning. Guy hasn't a clue. As well as taking over BT Open Reach, He hinted they would also have to takeover Virgin Media and other broadband suppliers. How would Labour pay for that? "That would be by negotiation". In other word...
by AndrewJB
Fri Nov 15, 2019 8:19 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: General Election Is On
Replies: 2502
Views: 30564

Re: General Election Is On

I look forward to booking a new broadband install if I have a new home, no doubt there will be a 10 year waiting list once Labour get their mitts on it. I shall also be checking that I don’t own shares in BT or other broadband companies, all of which presumably would lose their business. Luckily th...
by AndrewJB
Fri Nov 15, 2019 8:14 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: General Election Is On
Replies: 2502
Views: 30564

Re: General Election Is On

Dy1geo wrote:Still waiting for the answer about where the money is coming from to buy BT,

What yields on GILTS will we have to pay for any borrowing?

Also with regards BT will the Govt. take on the pension liabilities of BT.

Read Paul Waine’s post above.
by AndrewJB
Fri Nov 15, 2019 8:08 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: General Election Is On
Replies: 2502
Views: 30564

Re: General Election Is On

Chairman of BT has said the cost would be more like 100bn, there's also the ongoing cost of providing something for free forever, which currently has a monthly payment. We’re lagging well behind the EU average for provision of fibre broadband, and this is a way to rectify this, because the private ...
by AndrewJB
Fri Nov 15, 2019 12:12 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: General Election Is On
Replies: 2502
Views: 30564

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I consider the Australian based points system as a strong but fair system. If you disagree then kindly put forward your preferred solution to this very important political issue. There are several things not addressed by this kind of system. Refugees - for which we have a legal obligation to take i...
by AndrewJB
Thu Nov 14, 2019 11:38 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: General Election Is On
Replies: 2502
Views: 30564

Re: General Election Is On

Dy1geo wrote:Where is the money coming from to buy them?

It’ll be in their manifesto once that is published. Bear in mind that even if it all comes from borrowing, well have assets as a result of it.
by AndrewJB
Thu Nov 14, 2019 11:26 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: General Election Is On
Replies: 2502
Views: 30564

Re: General Election Is On

Where is the money coming from to buy them are they swapping for bonds, or are they going to the market to raise the funds needed to buy them, what do yo think will happen to pension funds that hold these shares Read the manifesto once it comes out. Pension funds sometimes lose value - look at what...
by AndrewJB
Thu Nov 14, 2019 10:44 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: General Election Is On
Replies: 2502
Views: 30564

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Not to worry Labour will pay for us all to have comfortable beds and personal sleep therapists on the NHS. These rich people and big businesses who are getting taxed to pay for all these things must be super loaded. The top 1000 of them in the U.K. trebled their wealth from £250Billion to.£750Billi...
by AndrewJB
Thu Nov 14, 2019 8:49 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: FAKE NEWS - EU edition
Replies: 60
Views: 1789

Re: FAKE NEWS - EU edition

Spot on, absolutely right, the same with the NHS claim, it made little difference to vote. The biggest single factor was immigration concerns, when asked how do we plan the infrastructure and future finances without border control we were not given any assurances. It makes me laugh when people thin...
by AndrewJB
Thu Nov 14, 2019 8:03 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 21182
Views: 467070

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

Hi Andrew, interesting post. I haven't read all the Guardian's article. Re this quote: "Back in 1980, labour’s share of the pie in developed countries stood at more than 61%, but it has been pretty much downhill all the way ever since. Income from employment as a share of gross domestic produc...
by AndrewJB
Thu Nov 14, 2019 7:48 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: General Election Is On
Replies: 2502
Views: 30564

Re: General Election Is On

It doesn't start there, it starts with the prevention why do some need to be their in the first place, obesity, smoking, drinking basically anything that contributes to poor health, prevention is always better than the cure, money should be spent on that & everything else will reduce or fall in...
by AndrewJB
Wed Nov 13, 2019 6:05 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: General Election Is On
Replies: 2502
Views: 30564

Re: General Election Is On

Simple guide for Burnley constituents on how to vote in the General Election: If you STRONGLY want to remain in the EU vote Lib Dem If you STRONGLY want to leave the EU vote Conservative If you don't feel STRONGLY about remaining or leaving then you should vote for any party that is offering polici...
by AndrewJB
Wed Nov 13, 2019 6:03 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: General Election Is On
Replies: 2502
Views: 30564

Re: General Election Is On

Fine then empty-chair him like they did during the leadership debates,it shouldn't be for the political parties to dictate the agenda,if they shirk a debate it doesn't speak highly of their confidence in their policies does it,if they have no confidence in their own policies why should the general ...
by AndrewJB
Wed Nov 13, 2019 5:51 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 21182
Views: 467070

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

Keeping Corbyn out of Downing Street will go some way to attract inward investments,and clearly making progress on brexit so that the business community know the conditions they're operating under,business can adapt as long as they know the lay of the land,it's not brexit per se that's deterring in...
by AndrewJB
Wed Nov 13, 2019 1:43 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: General Election Is On
Replies: 2502
Views: 30564

Re: General Election Is On

Not being a racist means treating people of all races similarly, both in political decisions and generally in terms of respect. People are defined by what they do, not what race they are born into. Jews are not technically a separate race, hence the term antisemite, but it is as though they are in ...
by AndrewJB
Wed Nov 13, 2019 8:20 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: General Election Is On
Replies: 2502
Views: 30564

Re: General Election Is On

The rule is that anyone who wants to criticise Johnson as a racist has to criticise Corbyn too. That’s my rule. The difference is that Johnson throws casual comments around which could be offensive, Corbyn supports a form of racism which in the past has resulted in genocide. It is indefensible. Cor...
by AndrewJB
Wed Nov 13, 2019 7:39 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: General Election Is On
Replies: 2502
Views: 30564

Re: General Election Is On

There you go, let’s play the racist card, or the homophobic card. Perhaps the people of the UK benefit. Johnson is in print as a homophobe, racist, and liar. Nobody made him write those things, and if he’s willing to print them, what might he say when the cameras are off? We can now add anti Britis...

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