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by Rowls
Sat Jul 13, 2019 1:28 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Bournemouth......
Replies: 78
Views: 3647

Re: Bournemouth......

Serviceable

That's the word that Bolton fans used to use a lot.

As in the sentence, "The debt is serviceable whilst we are an established Premier League team."
by Rowls
Sat Jul 13, 2019 1:21 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Josh Benson
Replies: 20
Views: 3247

Re: Josh Benson

All the best, Mace!
by Rowls
Sat Jul 13, 2019 1:20 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Josh Benson
Replies: 20
Views: 3247

Re: Josh Benson

There.

I've said it.

The lad's probably being dealing with it all his young life.

So let us never speak of it again.
by Rowls
Sat Jul 13, 2019 1:20 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Josh Benson
Replies: 20
Views: 3247

Re: Josh Benson

JohnDearyMe wrote:Isn't Mace Goodridge meant to be well thought of too in centre mid?


The Force is strong with this one.
by Rowls
Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:44 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Worst manager in living memory, purely for football reasons
Replies: 47
Views: 1523

Re: Worst manager in living memory, purely for football reasons

Although he was never technically our manager, a dishonourable mention must go to that kind of ineptitude, Glen Roeder was "helped" Chris Waddle so much.
by Rowls
Thu Jul 11, 2019 12:59 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Ambassador Farage
Replies: 230
Views: 3991

Re: Ambassador Farage

I composed quite a lengthy post about that very fact before sacking it off after remembering that it's Rowls and that he's not the least bit interested in debating in good faith. Framing the debate (or in this case, banging the loudest drum you have) around the content rather than the machinations ...
by Rowls
Thu Jul 11, 2019 12:53 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Ambassador Farage
Replies: 230
Views: 3991

Re: Ambassador Farage

On that, I bid you goodnight and God bless.

Thanks for playing along fellows. I hope you have better arguments next time.
by Rowls
Thu Jul 11, 2019 12:51 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Ambassador Farage
Replies: 230
Views: 3991

Re: Ambassador Farage

I'm impressed that you know more about how this works than the bloke who used to be the UK's National Security Adviser. Clearly, writing about the US does not equate to a security risk between the US and ourselves. But it is clearly a diplomatic risk as it evidenced by this case. A couple of points...
by Rowls
Thu Jul 11, 2019 12:47 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: BBC " Panorama " report on anti-semitic Labour ...
Replies: 74
Views: 1880

Re: BBC " Panorama " report on anti-semitic Labour ...

*** Hi mods - can we possibly get this thread merged with the current "Anti-Semitism" thread? ***

It might help keep the board a bit tidier and keep the topic to a single thread.

Thanks

Rowls
by Rowls
Thu Jul 11, 2019 12:44 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Ambassador Farage
Replies: 230
Views: 3991

Re: Ambassador Farage

Spiral wrote:Trump isn't his boss. You're talking b0llocks.


Who's this aimed at?
by Rowls
Thu Jul 11, 2019 12:44 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Ambassador Farage
Replies: 230
Views: 3991

Re: Ambassador Farage

Why don’t you tell us the diplomatic phrasing you think he should have used to inform our govt that Trump is inept and insecure, given that you seem to think the words “inept” and “insecure” are the equivalent of calling your boss a c*nt. If you were capable of reading between the lines you migh re...
by Rowls
Thu Jul 11, 2019 12:29 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Ambassador Farage
Replies: 230
Views: 3991

Re: Ambassador Farage

It is the ******* point. The whole point of his job is for him to give highly accurate assessments that cannot be open to misinterpretation. The guy has done absolutely nothing wrong, as previous ambassadors have stated. But i guess they're wrong and that you, constantly pig-ignorant as you are, ar...
by Rowls
Wed Jul 10, 2019 6:00 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Ambassador Farage
Replies: 230
Views: 3991

Re: Ambassador Farage

That is literally what you were writing. He could very easily have chosen a few well-placed euphemisms Nothing in the leaks would have been "news" to the PM, so it could have been left unsaid. Personally I'd have the view that describing that administration as "inept and insecure&quo...
by Rowls
Wed Jul 10, 2019 5:42 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Vale/Crewe Teams
Replies: 15
Views: 839

Re: Vale/Crewe Teams

What's Dave Burnley doing?
by Rowls
Wed Jul 10, 2019 5:40 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Ambassador Farage
Replies: 230
Views: 3991

Re: Ambassador Farage

Well you seem to be making a bit of a fool of yourself on here this aft but at least a couple of the boards knuckle draggers are wading in on your side. Not much of a consolation but at least its sommat Thanks for the clarification. Don't see that way at all. But even if that were true I'm confiden...
by Rowls
Wed Jul 10, 2019 5:34 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Ambassador Farage
Replies: 230
Views: 3991

Re: Ambassador Farage

You’ve rephrased it to not include the bit about not writing it down I see. What you haven’t done is answer the very reasonable question (asked by someone else), if the communications had been written in ‘more diplomatic language’ and leaked would it have made a blind bit of difference? But thanks ...
by Rowls
Wed Jul 10, 2019 5:33 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Ambassador Farage
Replies: 230
Views: 3991

Re: Ambassador Farage

You’ve rephrased it to not include the bit about not writing it down I see. What you haven’t done is answer the very reasonable question (asked by someone else), if the communications had been written in ‘more diplomatic language’ and leaked would it have made a blind bit of difference? I never sai...
by Rowls
Wed Jul 10, 2019 5:29 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Ambassador Farage
Replies: 230
Views: 3991

Re: Ambassador Farage

Devils_Advocate wrote:What I said.


I don't follow the meaning of it.

Not sure I understand your intent or what the wider meaning or relevance of it is?
by Rowls
Wed Jul 10, 2019 5:25 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Ambassador Farage
Replies: 230
Views: 3991

Re: Ambassador Farage

So basically what you're saying is the ambassador should refrain from briefings where they think the UK may already know and use euphemisms rather than being candid. I can't see any confusion arising from that. I mean there is a chance that you know how to do the ambassador's job better than a huge...
by Rowls
Wed Jul 10, 2019 5:21 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Ambassador Farage
Replies: 230
Views: 3991

Re: Ambassador Farage

Devils_Advocate wrote:At least the racists have got your back on this thread Rowls


What?
by Rowls
Wed Jul 10, 2019 5:21 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Ambassador Farage
Replies: 230
Views: 3991

Re: Ambassador Farage

Rather than trying to be smart (it’s not working) why don’t you explain what you were implying in post #13 on this page if it isn’t that he should be less than truthful with his employers just because this was the POTUS? I'm not trying to be smart at all martin_p You've put forward a stupid straw m...
by Rowls
Wed Jul 10, 2019 5:13 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Jay Rod interview
Replies: 32
Views: 3553

Re: Jay Rod interview

But welcome back, Jay.

Got long hair and we don't care - as long as he plays well and scores goals.
by Rowls
Wed Jul 10, 2019 5:12 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Jay Rod interview
Replies: 32
Views: 3553

Re: Jay Rod interview

Did anyone else genuinely think the hair had been photoshopped on?

I confess, I did.

I truly did. :o
by Rowls
Wed Jul 10, 2019 5:11 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Ambassador Farage
Replies: 230
Views: 3991

Re: Ambassador Farage

Then he wouldn't have been doing his ******* job properly. It his literally his job to tell us what the **** is going on over there without attempting to polish any turds. If he tries to polish any turds then he is not doing his job, and the effectiveness of the UK government in dealing with the ho...
by Rowls
Wed Jul 10, 2019 5:10 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Ambassador Farage
Replies: 230
Views: 3991

Re: Ambassador Farage

You can get to the Zth time, it won’t make it any more sensible. The information he provided will have been for a number of people and stored in a growing ‘file’ on information about the US administration. Ministers change on a regular basis and any new minister would be referred to said file for a...
by Rowls
Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:50 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Ambassador Farage
Replies: 230
Views: 3991

Re: Ambassador Farage

JohnMcGreal wrote:His words have not made his position untenable. The leaking of those words to the world has made his position untenable. That is a huge difference.


The two are kinda connected though, aren't they?
by Rowls
Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:49 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Ambassador Farage
Replies: 230
Views: 3991

Re: Ambassador Farage

martin_p wrote:So he should lie to his employers?


For the Nth time Martin, I've covered this in post 80.

I'm not going to re-phrase it again for you.
by Rowls
Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:48 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Ambassador Farage
Replies: 230
Views: 3991

Re: Ambassador Farage

His job was to give an opinion of Trump and his administration to be used by the British government. The fact is that all such communications are deemed to be entirely confidential and hence he should use the type of language that is most effective in conveying his views. Nothing unprofessional at ...
by Rowls
Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:44 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Ambassador Farage
Replies: 230
Views: 3991

Re: Ambassador Farage

So now you are saying that an ambassador should be supporting of or accepting the policy and practices of the government of whichever country they are sent to? Do you understand what the ambassador actually does? It’s not all Ferraro Roche! A healthy scepticism can work, especially in rotten places...
by Rowls
Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:35 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Ambassador Farage
Replies: 230
Views: 3991

Re: Ambassador Farage

As an Ambassador they have to have a certain degree of impartiality. Can you see that with Trump & Farage working together? Like I say Spijed, I find it highly unlikely that Farage will become an ambassador (in the diplomatic sense). He doesn't appear at all suited to it. He could negotiate a t...
by Rowls
Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:33 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Ambassador Farage
Replies: 230
Views: 3991

Re: Ambassador Farage

Has he ********. Have you missed the entire story McGreal? He didn't say anything that wouldn't have been known in Downing Street. He's essentially "bitching" in the email. Let's get this straight - it's not his fault but he has been unwise. It's his own words which have made his position...
by Rowls
Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:30 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Ambassador Farage
Replies: 230
Views: 3991

Re: Ambassador Farage

The next appointment should, as a civil servant, be neutral politically and just do the bidding of the government in charge (as did Darrick). For Farage to try and introduce a political element into this shows a complete lack of appreciation on the role. If he's been "politically neutral"...
by Rowls
Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:27 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Ambassador Farage
Replies: 230
Views: 3991

Re: Ambassador Farage

Boris has refused to support a civil servant under attack for doing his job, perhaps it’s him that needs to do the learning. As for the not putting things down in writing, he’ll have been asked for a written report! Doesn't look like a report to me, looks much more informal than that. As I've alrea...
by Rowls
Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:11 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Ambassador Farage
Replies: 230
Views: 3991

Re: Ambassador Farage

Spijed wrote:Even you must recognise that if Farage is given the job, it'll be one almighty stitch-up!


I don't think it's all likely but what do you mean by "stitch-up"?
by Rowls
Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:11 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Ambassador Farage
Replies: 230
Views: 3991

Re: Ambassador Farage

But you are very wrong on this one. He will have been asked for his honest opinion and has given it. The language isn’t in any way crude, merely telling it how he sees it. No other ambassador of any other country to any other country will be any different. He’s been publicly attacked by a foreign p...
by Rowls
Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:08 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Ambassador Farage
Replies: 230
Views: 3991

Re: Ambassador Farage

Ye Gads! Forsooth the second sight is strong in these posters!

Zounds! What other prophesies shall be foretold?

Will the next Prime Minister will be a Conservative?

Tell us! We must know!

Keep not your powers to yourself!
by Rowls
Wed Jul 10, 2019 3:34 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Ambassador Farage
Replies: 230
Views: 3991

Re: Ambassador Farage

Oh dear, the stars have come out early today.
by Rowls
Wed Jul 10, 2019 3:25 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Ambassador Farage
Replies: 230
Views: 3991

Re: Ambassador Farage

You're right (for once) it hadn't become untenable. In fact had Boris said he'd stay in the role until his intended end date at the end of the year there wouldn't be a problem at all. Lame duck diplomat in position for 5 months whilst we leave the EU and negotiate a trade deal with the US = no prob...
by Rowls
Wed Jul 10, 2019 2:42 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Ambassador Farage
Replies: 230
Views: 3991

Re: Ambassador Farage

Then you're not connected to reality. Only you can see the truth. The idea that Sir Kim has had to resign because his confidential emails have been leaked and that they revealed some very undiplomatic language isn't one that's going to trouble your "understanding" of the matter is it? No....
by Rowls
Wed Jul 10, 2019 2:40 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Ambassador Farage
Replies: 230
Views: 3991

Re: Ambassador Farage

The fact that some people cannot see that Sir Kim's position hadn't become untenable is neither remarkable or unusual.

It's par for the course here sadly.

Diplomacy - another of Turtle's specialist subjects on which he is a world leader.
by Rowls
Wed Jul 10, 2019 2:38 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Ambassador Farage
Replies: 230
Views: 3991

Re: Ambassador Farage

The point of an ambassador is that they are there to represent our government and our interests. They're not there to be subservient to the whims of a thin-skinned, insensitive moron leading the other government - unless we tell them that's what they should do. You're still calling this diplomacy s...
by Rowls
Wed Jul 10, 2019 2:37 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Ambassador Farage
Replies: 230
Views: 3991

Re: Ambassador Farage

Imploding Turtle wrote:Do you accept that the reason Darroch has had to resign is because Trump didn't like that Darroch was doing exactly what we were paying him to do?


No.
by Rowls
Wed Jul 10, 2019 2:29 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Ambassador Farage
Replies: 230
Views: 3991

Re: Ambassador Farage

Spijed wrote:Two questions Rowls:
Should the USA have any input as to who the new Ambassador should be?
Would you be happy if Farage got the job?


1. Yes. You don't "impose" ambassadors. They represent two-way dialogue. It's best to pick people who can do that.
2. No, not really.
by Rowls
Wed Jul 10, 2019 1:59 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Ambassador Farage
Replies: 230
Views: 3991

Re: Ambassador Farage

I love how any time this clown calls something "double-think" it's because he doesn't understand the point actually being made. Hello Charlie turtle Explain how it is not double-think to say "the British PM must be able to decide their own ambassador" whilst also proclaiming tha...
by Rowls
Wed Jul 10, 2019 1:55 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Ambassador Farage
Replies: 230
Views: 3991

Re: Ambassador Farage

Watch out for Farage or his surrogates demanding that May doesn't name a replacement and allows her successor to name him (yes, him). Edit: The US can then refuse to accept her nominee, of course, which would only go towards proving the agenda behind this whole thing in the first place. You're lett...
by Rowls
Wed Jul 10, 2019 1:53 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Ambassador Farage
Replies: 230
Views: 3991

Re: Ambassador Farage

Pleased Hunt has come out and said if he becomes PM he will not be changing our ambassador. Would be helpful if Bojo would do the same and allow the British PM to choose our diplomats and not a narcisistic imbecile. Well done Tricky Trev. Gave you a 'like' for your double-think. If it's "helpf...
by Rowls
Tue Jul 09, 2019 3:46 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: One of our own has made his way home
Replies: 110
Views: 6191

Re: ARTICLE: One of our own has made his way home

Great signing, he adds quality, experience and adaptability to our forward roles.

All the sweeter because he's Burnley born and bred.

Welcome home, Jay!
by Rowls
Mon Jul 08, 2019 2:42 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Where were you actually born
Replies: 199
Views: 3924

Re: Where were you actually born

George Eliot hospital, Nuneaton.
by Rowls
Mon Jul 08, 2019 2:05 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: BFC TRANSFER NEWS (MUST CONTAIN LINK)
Replies: 1856
Views: 164770

Erik Pieters - BOOM!!!!

Dutch international left back. BOOM!!!!!! Burnley are on the brink of completing a permanent deal for Stoke defender Erik Pieters. The Dutch left-back back is set to leave following six years with Stoke, having joined from PSV Eindhoven back in the summer of 2013. Pieters, who enjoyed five campaigns...
by Rowls
Wed Jul 03, 2019 12:07 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Our transfer record progression
Replies: 26
Views: 2014

Re: Our transfer record progression

I can remember when it was Liam Robinson for £325,000 so it's all relative really.

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