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Hi there Ut the Claretserers! I'm in need of a new laptop / PC / tower unit for a spot of video editing. At the same time I'm looking for cheap or free options for video editing softwarre. What kind of computer option should I be looking for and what kind of specifications would I need? It's for a c...

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Well done Nathan Tella!

Unbelievable two years for the young lad.

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I would only say forest away Luton at home and Villa away are games that the poor decisions by officiating has cost us. Purely because of the time left in the game, that would put us on 5 extra points and a point less each for Forest and Luton That's a fair take imo. If we are indeed relegated I ho...

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Thanks for the updates guys
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Here's that PFA statement supporting BLM again before I go to bed.

https://www.thepfa.com/news/2020/6/12/p ... ves-matter

Goodnight all. God bless!

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helmclaret wrote: ↑
Sun Apr 14, 2024 12:39 am
No one in this thread has said ‘it was never in support of BLM.’ It clearly was linked to them at the very start. Now it isn’t.

Hmmm, maybe not in this thread.

But that argument has been made many times on here.

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I get lost with this every time it comes up, whilst I agree it is very decisive subject and wish we could find another way of making an anti racism message and wouldn’t take the knee myself because of it’s links to BLM. I don’t get why people can’t see that it is no longer done in support of BLM an...

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I'm going to hazard a guess here that the original press release released may not have been the final press release on the subject. It isn't. But it's pretty clear and cut in what it says, isn't it? The point me and others are making is that the claim that taking the knee "was never in support of B...

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I don't think he was cleared - more that the case couldn't be proven. I know Jay well and was shocked at the time thinking he just couldn't do that and I had a massive row with Andy Naylor (then Brighton Argus and now Athletic) who was branding him a racist. Only Jay will know what he said and what...

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Rowls wrote: ↑
Sun Apr 14, 2024 12:12 am
Here you go:

https://www.thepfa.com/news/2020/6/12/p ... ves-matter

Just gonna bump this PFA press release for everybody to read again.

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helmclaret wrote: ↑
Sun Apr 14, 2024 12:12 am
Mild jibes??

You’re the one saying others have ‘incredibly weak arguments!’

Sorry, I had assumed the segue into your "You OK, Hun?" manner of posting was intended as a mild jibes against me.

Fwiw if raised a chuckle.

MOD: Thread locked. Persistent political references

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helmclaret wrote: ↑
Sun Apr 14, 2024 12:09 am
This press release

Here you go:

https://www.thepfa.com/news/2020/6/12/p ... ves-matter

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With respect, I think you need to move on. It can’t be healthy banging on like this. As said before, I'm very happy to receive these mild jibes. It's far preferable to the vicious stuff I suffered during the mass hysteria. Thank you for your concern about my health, however it isn't necessary. Post...

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But there is no mention of BLM any more and hasn't been for years apart from those who want to justify booing. Just not true. There are plenty on here very much against the booing and who want to believe despite the evidence that taking the knee doesn't have anything to do with BLM. As I've said be...

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I can’t see anyone on this board or at Turf Moor for that matter supporting BLM? No! And neither do I. It's bloody fantastic! But we shouldn't allow the fact that we're no longer in the midst of mass hysteria allow us to delude ourselves. If massive support for BLM had not arisen during the hysteri...

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But I’m not, because it’s not a complex question. It’s a very simple one. It's a simple question. About a complex subject. I believe complex subjects deserved thoughtful answers. Yours is just a question designed to entrap me into taking up a simplistic position on a complex subject. It's already b...

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Rowls still going on about this is akin to the Japanese war veteran, Hiroo Onoda, that never surrendered after WWII had ended and was still hiding in the Philippines until the mid 70s. Let it go man. The metaphor falls at the first hurdle. I'm going on about it because although WWII ended some time...

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I’m not sure answering a load of different questions that you’ve asked yourself is the same as asking the incredibly straightforward question I’ve asked you. The point is this: you're trying to present a complex question for which there are multiple different and related issues, many of which overl...

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Probably best for you and Rowls to just ignore it going forward? Only happens a few times a season anyway now. Not going to happen online helm my friend. I ignore it at the match but in terms of challenging BLM online and drawing attention to the risible ideology behind their divisive racist claptr...

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Not sure why I’m having to ask again then… did the Burnley and Brighton players today take the knee in support of the political movement BLM? If, for whatever reason, you need me to rephrase it for you then here is another response for you: Is supporting BLM this reason the PFA started taking the k...

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Rileybobs wrote: ↑
Sat Apr 13, 2024 11:27 pm
Not sure why I’m having to ask again then… did the Burnley and Brighton players today take the knee in support of the political movement BLM?

I've answered this above.

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Which is perfectly fine. But buying your ticket doesn’t give you the right to dictate exactly what you do and don’t see. It is a widely held social convention that overt politics or party politics is not to be mixed with sporting events. We upheld this very rigourously this country until the BLM ma...

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Rileybobs wrote: ↑
Sat Apr 13, 2024 11:15 pm
Note how Rowls won’t even answer a straightforward question because he knows it will topple his disingenuous and dishonest stance.

Which question?

I always answer any genuine questions put my way.

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helmclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Apr 13, 2024 11:10 pm
Can you not just ignore it?

Yeah I could. We all could.

But then we'd be giving a racially divisive and regressive political activist group, and the hateful ideas they espouse, a free reign in our society.

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Did you not listen to what Ben Mee said it was about? Mind you, it was probably an incredibly weak argument. It was the dogma that they were all spouting at the time. I listened to it and, guess what? I disagreed with it profoundly. As much as I live Ben Mee because if his service to Burnley FC I'm...

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What series of political rallies took place today? Please, you were engaging seriously before. I don't care on jot if engaging me is a game to you or anybody else. I just want the counter argument against BLM to be out their so that society doesn't go through the same mass hysteria again. But I'm n...

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Were the Burnley and Brighton players today taking the knee in support of the political movement BLM? Simple question. The PFA statement says that is why the gesture has been adopted. It would have been great for more players to have had the courage to stand up against this but it's understandable ...

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You pay to watch the match. They take the knee before the match starts. Your point doesn’t make sense. An incredibly weak argument. "Today's sporting event will be preceded by a series of political rallies. Those who do not want to listen or witness these please cover your ears a d close you eyes u...

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Groundhog Day here. But can we all agree that the Burnley and Brighton players taking the knee today was not in support of the BLM political movement? Groundhog day! No we can't. Mainly for the following reasons. The gesture is irrevocably linked with BLM. The PFA confirmed they were making the ges...

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But you’re allowed to voice an opinion on it? Are we allowed to boo the taking of the knee though? Seriously, can we be sure of this? Will the club permit this? And even if the club allow it, there is still a widespread view, especially prominent in media outlets and in TV, that responding to the B...

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I don’t support BLM but keep banging on about them please. I will decry taking the BLM stance until the charade stops. When I originally posted against this in the middle of the mass hysteria in favour of BLM i was called all the names under the sun and had the worst kind of accusations thrown at m...

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yTib wrote: ↑
Sat Apr 13, 2024 10:40 pm
don't get carried away

Must be the shandy going to my head

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Anti racism and equality are human rights in my book, not political at all. A good 99.9% of people would agree. Which is why nobody complained about the Kick it Out campaign. But would anyone in the universe have the nerve to describe BLM as "not political at all"? Of course they wouldn't. That's t...

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yTib wrote: ↑
Sat Apr 13, 2024 10:38 pm
you could use that argument about the offside rule.

but seriously, i really miss common sense.

It's not often we find common cause.

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Seems there’s a few people who like to use the knee to deliberately cause arguments. Another reason why it should be dropped. Efforts should be going into Kick if out instead. When you promote an organisation as divisive and extreme as BLM you are simply asking for these kind of debates. It's preci...

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again, agreed broadly but there must be examples of sport being politicised. jesse owens being an obvious example. It's true. There isnt a perfectly clear line that can ever be drawn in the sand. But we did have a clear understanding that overt political statements could bog be made. The one except...

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I can’t defend the incompetence of the FA. I’m all for anti racism and equality. I guess some people have an issue with those things and have the right to boo. I am a very vocal critic of BLM (and even more vocally critical of the support leant to BLM by the football authorities) precisely because ...

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The best time to stop making the gesture would have been the day they realised what an error they had made by endorsing BLM. Unfortunately, the PFA, FA et al instead decided to obfuscate about what they'd said and they continued to compound their error by insisting on this ridiculous charade that ta...

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Originally it was linked to BLM. It isn’t anymore. That’s my point. All the banners before the game today clearly said ‘no room for racism.’ But that's not what the PFA claim. They claim it was never in support of BLM, in spite of their press release saying otherwise. In short, they're trying to ch...

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To keep saying it’s a BLM gesture is ridiculous. Although no doubt The Telegraph and Daily Mail will tell you that. Yes, originally it was linked to whatever that organisation is, but ultimately its about anti racism and equality. If you want to keep banging on about BLM well I guess that’s up to y...

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Some people think tackling racism is important. Ditto social cohesion and good race relations.

So there's every reason in the world to stop making the BLM gesture.

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yTib wrote: ↑
Sat Apr 13, 2024 9:34 pm
i broadly agree though i suspect it wouldn't be so easy.

how to censure it effectively without a backlash?

Easiest thing would be to just stop doing it and go back to promoting Kick it Out and Say No To Racism.

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If players are going to make overt political gestures they need to accept the fans also have a right to voice their disapproval. It's clear as day why fans find it distasteful for the players to be making a BLM gesture. Claiming it isn't anything to do with BLM is disingenuous and everybody knows th...

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jdrobbo wrote: ↑
Fri Apr 12, 2024 10:54 am
Celery is awful stuff. I’d rather eat Brillo pads. ‍🫣

Correct. It's only worthy of going into stock which makes the Celery Stick Thing even more egregious.

No buffet is complete these days without a pile of uneaten celery sticks at its conclusion.

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ŽižkovClaret wrote: ↑
Fri Apr 12, 2024 10:51 am
Reminds me of when i found out that "Baby Carrots" are just trimmed down regular carrots, and not specially grown / early harvested variety

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Rowls - I had a similar issue this morning at Sainsburys in Urmston - no half cucumbers only full ones!!! - I’m outraged. I feel your pain Flixton. At risk of one-upmanship, my pain was worse because celery sticks are more expensive than whole celeries. You pay more for less with celery sticks. But...

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expoultryboy wrote: ↑
Thu Apr 11, 2024 9:24 pm
Rowls : I hope you've applied for "a patent " for your brilliant idea/ invention.

"Fun" fact that really ought to have gone in the Dull Man's Thread: Recipes cannot be patented.

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It's my Mum and Dad's dog.

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Can't recommend any specific companies unfortunately but I can recommend at least attempting French when you get to the desk. If you don't make an effort to memorize something like, "Hello, I've rented a car but don't speak French, do you speak English?" then you'll get a much curter response than i...

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Recently at my local Aldi they did not stock whole celeries but they did stock "celery sticks" which are very similar but notably more expensive. Clearly the celery sticks are popular so I thought I'd share this simple recipe for celery sticks that you can use at home. It only takes about 2 minutes ...

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