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by JohnMcGreal
Mon Jul 13, 2020 6:31 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: It's not just about Brexit
Replies: 177
Views: 6633

Re: It's not just about Brexit

No, my position has always been that the situation will be sorted out one way or another but it might mean cutting corners for a little while. As opposed to the anti-EU position posited by many on here who reckoned that corners would not be cut and that the government would rather see people starve...
by JohnMcGreal
Mon Jul 13, 2020 6:23 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: It's not just about Brexit
Replies: 177
Views: 6633

Re: It's not just about Brexit

Damo wrote:
Sun Jul 12, 2020 11:16 pm
We are leaving with no deal lads.
Try and spin the good and bad out of that how you see fit but that's the default and what we all voted for
That simply isn't true.
by JohnMcGreal
Sat Jul 11, 2020 10:07 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: It's not just about Brexit
Replies: 177
Views: 6633

Re: It's not just about Brexit

I voted for brexit, but i didn't vote for this brexit, if the government want a no deal, then it's only right they go back to the public to get approval. There are probably millions of people who feel that way. The type of Brexit we are now facing is a million miles away from the glorious vision th...
by JohnMcGreal
Mon Jul 06, 2020 12:21 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: The Great British Public never let you down
Replies: 29
Views: 2434

Re: The Great British Public never let you down

cricketfieldclarets wrote:
Sun Jul 05, 2020 11:23 am
Why do people keep blaming the government for the idiotic choices of the general public?
Hang on a minute. Is it ok to question the decisions made by the British general public now, and to criticise them if they do something stupid? Because that was very taboo for a good few years.
by JohnMcGreal
Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:21 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Burnley confirm ticket refunds
Replies: 614
Views: 29415

Re: ARTICLE: Burnley confirm ticket refunds

ClaretTony wrote:
Mon Jun 29, 2020 7:29 pm
I’ve just been in a National meeting discussing these things. They won’t be able to charge for games you can’t attend so they will have to refund.
Brilliant. So we can look forward to a repeat of this fiasco in a few months time.
by JohnMcGreal
Fri Jun 19, 2020 7:48 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Swing Low....
Replies: 87
Views: 2530

Re: Swing Low....

fanzone wrote:
Fri Jun 19, 2020 7:43 am
Somewhere down the line the monarchy will have had slaves. Shall we get rid of the queen aswell.
Now you're talking.
by JohnMcGreal
Sat Jun 13, 2020 10:10 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: Uniting the Country Since 31/01/2020
Replies: 22828
Views: 641855

Re: Brexit: Uniting the Country Since 31/01/2020

They offered a good deal to Canada and to Japan; why not to us? They didn't 'offer' them good deals. They negotiated fairly lightweight trade deals (in comparison to what we're after) over a period of 5-7 years. But there are several reasons why Canada and Japan are useless comparisons. The first m...
by JohnMcGreal
Wed Jun 10, 2020 8:07 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Sadiq Khan name changes ....
Replies: 228
Views: 4421

Re: Sadiq Khan name changes ....

How many people had heard of Edward Colston before Sunday. Nobody outside Bristol, and the vast majority of Bristolians would know him as the benefactor who did so much for Bristol. His downfall wasn't at the hands of BLM supporters, but a handful of left wing anarchists, professional **** stirrers...
by JohnMcGreal
Sat May 23, 2020 10:44 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Covid-19
Replies: 13256
Views: 264160

Re: Covid-19

I think this case is a good measure of just how far gone some people are, with their almost slavish devotion to this Vote Leave government. They're so invested in these people that they've completely lost any sense of judgment, to the point where they will attempt to defend the indefensible, and mak...
by JohnMcGreal
Mon May 18, 2020 7:57 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Season T
Replies: 245
Views: 11349

Re: Season T

Whatever happens, there is no chance of supporters going on the Turf to watch the remaining matches of the 19/20 season, so that money needs to be refunded to those who've paid. After that, season ticket direct debit payments should be suspended until further notice, because supporters won't be atte...
by JohnMcGreal
Sun May 17, 2020 9:54 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Joey Barton calling a spade a spade
Replies: 63
Views: 3453

Re: Joey Barton calling a spade a spade

What has the number of cases got to do with the risk factor on the pitch? A German footballer has as much chance of catching the virus on the pitch as an English player has, which is negligible. Troy Deeney, for example, is no more at risk playing in an English game than he would be playing in a Ge...
by JohnMcGreal
Sun May 17, 2020 9:30 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Joey Barton calling a spade a spade
Replies: 63
Views: 3453

Re: Joey Barton calling a spade a spade

Spijed wrote:
Sun May 17, 2020 9:18 am
Well the example you gave, Germany, is a country that has the virus under far greater control than the UK.

Maybe when our daily new cases are in the hundreds, and not the thousands, we can start to think about playing games behind closed doors.
by JohnMcGreal
Sun May 17, 2020 6:56 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Joey Barton calling a spade a spade
Replies: 63
Views: 3453

Re: Joey Barton calling a spade a spade

Minimum wage shop workers risk their lives every day to keep the country going. I`m sure they`d risk a 90 minute football game for 6 times their yearly salary But that's the big difference, isn't it? Shop workers, and many other essential workers, have been performing duties which are vital in orde...
by JohnMcGreal
Mon May 04, 2020 10:25 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: VE Day:75th anniversary
Replies: 13
Views: 667

Re: VE Day:75th anniversary

A list of instructions that reads surprisingly well in the voice of a Nazi officer from some old war film.
by JohnMcGreal
Mon Feb 17, 2020 4:25 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Caroline Flack found deceased
Replies: 172
Views: 8622

Re: Caroline Flack found deceased

Stalbansclaret wrote:
Sun Feb 16, 2020 10:10 pm
Not sure I should really head into potentially treacherous waters by asking this but why.how was she talented ? Or is being a presenter on terrible, lowbrow TV programmes like Love Island now enough to be classed as being talented ?
How is Caroline Flack's level of talent relevant here?
by JohnMcGreal
Fri Feb 14, 2020 8:11 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: If we all bought more BRITISH designed/manufactured/assembled goods...
Replies: 100
Views: 2661

Re: If we all bought more BRITISH designed/manufactured/assembled goods...

So you don't want to answer the questions then? Do you understand why I asked them? It's not a question of belief. The questions I asked WILL one day be answered by the actions of the EU. If they are willing to destroy those relationships I mentioned on a point of principle in some way then they wo...
by JohnMcGreal
Wed Feb 12, 2020 12:35 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Gibson training at Middlesbrough
Replies: 385
Views: 16815

Re: Gibson training at Middlesbrough

ClaretTony wrote:
Wed Feb 12, 2020 12:04 pm
I'm sure we could have let him go to Watford had we been prepared to accept a low fee.
If we're happy to keep paying him £40k a week just to have a kickabout with his mates in Middlesbrough, maybe we should have just taken that low fee from Watford and cut our losses.
by JohnMcGreal
Wed Jan 29, 2020 10:19 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: Uniting the Country Since 31/01/2020
Replies: 22828
Views: 641855

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

just as an aside I just saw: MEPs ratified the Brexit Withdrawal Agreement by 621 votes to 49 following an emotional debate in Brussels. I do wonder what the 49 were thinking, was there some way they could have stopped the UK leaving in a few days, I certainly did not believe so,, just curious that...
by JohnMcGreal
Wed Jan 22, 2020 2:41 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: Uniting the Country Since 31/01/2020
Replies: 22828
Views: 641855

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

The problem with that article is the same problem that beset Theresa May and her hopeless attempts at negotiation. It's looking only one way, as to what concessions the UK will have to make to get a deal with the EU. Trade deals don't work that way in normal circumstances. The EU didn't insist that...
by JohnMcGreal
Fri Jan 03, 2020 11:29 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Drinkwater going back to Chelsea
Replies: 214
Views: 6963

Re: Drinkwater going back to Chelsea

Drinkwater N'Koudou Flanagan Bamford Chalobah Keane* Kightly* *If I remember rightly, both Kightly and Keane were loan-to-buy deals, with full transfers already agreed with Stoke and Man Utd. Both players signed permanently at the end of their loans. So aside from those, our use of the loan market u...
by JohnMcGreal
Wed Jan 01, 2020 5:57 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley v Aston Villa - Player Ratings
Replies: 75
Views: 4611

Re: Burnley v Aston Villa - Player Ratings

Pope 5
Bardsley 3
Tarkowski 4
Mee 4
Taylor 6
McNeil 5
Westwood 3
Cork 4
Brady 3
Barnes 3
Wood 4

Gudmundsson 6
Rodriguez 6

Second half was dire, first half was unacceptable.
by JohnMcGreal
Wed Jan 01, 2020 10:29 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Conservatives win Burnley after 109 years ... why ?
Replies: 86
Views: 3023

Re: Conservatives win Burnley after 109 years ... why ?

They thought Labour was full of dreamers who were promising stuff they couldn't provide. Yet they are very quick to believe the unfulfillable promises made by the dreamers of the Leave campaigns and now the Tory party. Perhaps people are more likely to believe in something when it's wrapped up in j...
by JohnMcGreal
Wed Dec 11, 2019 7:49 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: 350 Million
Replies: 163
Views: 7610

Re: 350 Million

the only choice is which party will inflict less damage on the country, and despite my misgivings of the Tories they win that argument hands down. If you think a Tory Brexit, which puts a border right through the middle of the United Kingdom, and rips up all existing trade ties with our largest and...
by JohnMcGreal
Sun Dec 08, 2019 9:19 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: General Election Is On
Replies: 5094
Views: 88264

Re: General Election Is On

So much for getting Brexit done. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-trade-deal-negotiation-boris-johnson-france-eu-commission-a9235976.html It's patently obvious that Brexit will not 'get done' any time soon. Even if we leave the EU in January, that's just the start. We'll be dea...
by JohnMcGreal
Fri Dec 06, 2019 7:42 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: Uniting the Country Since 31/01/2020
Replies: 22828
Views: 641855

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

If anyone has a few hours spare, this transcript of a speech which Ivan Rogers gave in Glasgow recently is very informative.

https://www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/poli ... ch-glasgow
by JohnMcGreal
Mon Nov 25, 2019 7:53 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Dyche to West Ham
Replies: 81
Views: 8713

Re: Dyche to West Ham

Chester Perry wrote:got to love this - Dyche has approached West Ham

https://foreverwestham.com/2019/11/blog ... -west-ham/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
:lol:
by JohnMcGreal
Sat Nov 23, 2019 7:20 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: General Election Is On
Replies: 5094
Views: 88264

Re: General Election Is On

I thought both Swinson and Johnson came across terribly for pretty much the same reason. They (and their parties) have both been in government over the course of the last decade, and they have no answers or explanations for why the country is currently in the absolute state it's in. They're both tai...
by JohnMcGreal
Wed Nov 20, 2019 3:01 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: General Election Is On
Replies: 5094
Views: 88264

Re: General Election Is On

Ever heard of Project Fear Damo? Because that is exactly what the UK press and big business is playing out right now. You believe big business when they say that Labour will be bad for economy yet when big business says Brexit will bad for the economy you choose to dismiss it as Project Fear. Can't...
by JohnMcGreal
Tue Nov 19, 2019 8:52 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: General Election Is On
Replies: 5094
Views: 88264

Re: General Election Is On

Politician lies, in other news water is discovered to be wet. The leave voting conservative Peter Oborne has written a very good piece for the Guardian about the sheer scale and frequency of Johnson's lies, and the lack of any challenge from the media. The piece also touches on the comment you made...
by JohnMcGreal
Sat Nov 16, 2019 7:35 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: FAKE NEWS - EU edition
Replies: 60
Views: 2270

Re: FAKE NEWS - EU edition

I agree that various Government could have had more control under the EU rules, the lack of outcry was because people didn't know that. What the average Joe didn't know about the EU (and our membership of it) could fill a book. Which just shows how insane and reckless it was to hold a referendum on...
by JohnMcGreal
Thu Nov 14, 2019 3:20 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: General Election Is On
Replies: 5094
Views: 88264

Re: General Election Is On

I did not say that Johnson has made a racist comment. I was defending Corbyn. Instead of making stuff up and obfuscating why don't you answer my question? What are the racist thing/things that Johnson has said or done? You have actually made an outrageous slur against me Lancaster by effectively al...
by JohnMcGreal
Thu Nov 14, 2019 10:45 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: General Election Is On
Replies: 5094
Views: 88264

Re: General Election Is On

Fair enough Lancs. But it was the "driving home your point" comment that seemed weird. Not only have you not driven home your point, you still seem unable to answer the question! I think calling someone a racist is pretty serious. It's extremely serious if that person is our Prime Minister. Are you...
by JohnMcGreal
Thu Nov 14, 2019 10:43 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: General Election Is On
Replies: 5094
Views: 88264

Re: General Election Is On

It's funny how immigration critics always invoke Australia, one of the most racist countries in the world, when trying to make a point about a fairer system. Almost as if they're not really bothered about a fairer system, just a more racist one.
by JohnMcGreal
Tue Nov 12, 2019 4:56 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: General Election Is On
Replies: 5094
Views: 88264

Re: General Election Is On

Lancasterclaret wrote:The papers are reporting that nine Russian oligarchs (and to be an oligarch, you have to be in cahoots with Putin) are the biggest donors to the Conservative Party.
That famously left wing, hysterical newspaper, The Times.
by JohnMcGreal
Mon Nov 11, 2019 12:32 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: General Election Is On
Replies: 5094
Views: 88264

Re: General Election Is On

Lancasterclaret wrote:Brexit Party not contesting any Tory seats.

Thank god for that, the end of Farage is nigh.
Potentially devastating news for remain.
by JohnMcGreal
Sat Nov 09, 2019 8:11 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: General Election Is On
Replies: 5094
Views: 88264

Re: General Election Is On

At least she admits claiming for the wreath, whereas Jezza "was present but not involved" in laying one for terrorists. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7666941/Labour-frontbencher-caught-paying-17-Remembrance-Day-wreath-expenses.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; I know it...
by JohnMcGreal
Thu Nov 07, 2019 12:41 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: Uniting the Country Since 31/01/2020
Replies: 22828
Views: 641855

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

aggi wrote:I'm not entirely sure what the message is here:


The "Remoaners" are going to save the universe from the evil Boris who is planning to wipe out half of the population?
I thought Ringo hadn't posted for a while...
by JohnMcGreal
Wed Nov 06, 2019 9:44 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: General Election Is On
Replies: 5094
Views: 88264

Re: General Election Is On

There is that. But Labour took my vote in 2017 and effectively used it as a backing of Corbynism and all the things that go with that (good and bad). Granted they have been pulled closer and closer to remain by them actually looking at the analysis of who voted for them but the recent interview wit...
by JohnMcGreal
Wed Nov 06, 2019 9:26 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: General Election Is On
Replies: 5094
Views: 88264

Re: General Election Is On

It entirely depends on your constituency. You should be voting for the party that has the best chance of beating the Tories (apart from the Brexit Party of course). No point voting Lib Dem in my constituency as it’s a straight fight between labour and Tory. A vote for the Lib Dems could hand the se...
by JohnMcGreal
Tue Nov 05, 2019 9:18 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: General Election Is On
Replies: 5094
Views: 88264

Re: General Election Is On

Apart from Rees-Mogg's horrible comments, the most awful thing I have seen in the news today is the way in which vulnerable people have been made destitute and are having to rely on food banks to feed their children. The old lie, which I have seen on here a few times, that use of food banks is not ...
by JohnMcGreal
Tue Nov 05, 2019 10:50 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Sir Lindsay Hoyle
Replies: 46
Views: 2185

Re: Sir Lindsay Hoyle

The thing that Bercow's critics often fail to point out is that he happened to be the speaker at a time when the government of the day acted in an unprecedented fashion, such as attempting to bypass parliament completely, holding parliament in contempt and by attempting to shut down parliament for a...
by JohnMcGreal
Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:40 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: VAR At Everton
Replies: 89
Views: 3028

Re: VAR At Everton

One of the reasons we've got it is cos of managers like Dyche, fans like on here and the pundits constant blaming and scapegoating of refs whenever decisions dont go their way. We reap what we sow im afraid Agreed. The Premier League ought to have been stronger on this, and introduced lengthy touch...
by JohnMcGreal
Sun Nov 03, 2019 8:55 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Julie Cooper MP to stand down .... ?
Replies: 342
Views: 11248

Re: Julie Cooper MP to stand down .... ?

Is it correct to refer to labour offering a Brexit deal , this tarting up what is being offered is what caused this mess in the first place because the referendum was always supposed to be about remain or no-deal Brexit. We are being offered the following by voting for Julie: - Remain in the EU as ...
by JohnMcGreal
Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:07 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Sheffield United v Burnley - Player Ratings
Replies: 70
Views: 4987

Re: Sheffield United v Burnley - Player Ratings

Pope 5
Lowton 3
Tarkowski 4
Mee 5
Pieters 3
Hendrick 4
Westwood 3
Cork 5
McNeil 4
Rodriguez 5
Barnes 4

Taylor 6
Brady 4

Shocking.
by JohnMcGreal
Fri Nov 01, 2019 11:42 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: General Election Is On
Replies: 5094
Views: 88264

Re: General Election Is On

Farage just declared war on the Conservatives. This could be the most interesting election ever. Do you ever get the feeling that these prominent 'Brexiters', like Johnson and Farage, don't actually want Brexit to happen? Like they'd prefer to spend their careers talking about it and complaining ab...
by JohnMcGreal
Fri Nov 01, 2019 8:37 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: Uniting the Country Since 31/01/2020
Replies: 22828
Views: 641855

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

Granted not a lie, you could call it theft though technically using taxpayers money to fund a remain leaflet we never even asked for. I presume you've seen the news about this latest incident of 'theft' and are pretty unhappy about it? Government ministers spending taxpayers money on Facebook ads, ...
by JohnMcGreal
Thu Oct 31, 2019 12:56 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: General Election Is On
Replies: 5094
Views: 88264

Re: General Election Is On

You have to hand it to Johnson, he’s got some front going to the country to ask them for five more years of power for his party, considering the absolute state they’ve left it in after almost a decade of their governance. The arrogance and entitlement on display is breath-taking. With a bit of luck,...
by JohnMcGreal
Mon Oct 28, 2019 12:28 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: Uniting the Country Since 31/01/2020
Replies: 22828
Views: 641855

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

The referendum question would need to be: 'You have already voted to leave the EU. Now you must decide how we leave.' 1. Theresa May's deal with a customs union (soft Brexit) 2. Boris Johnson's deal without a customs union (medium Brexit) 3. No-deal exit (hard Brexit) But in framing the referendum ...
by JohnMcGreal
Sun Oct 27, 2019 3:05 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: Uniting the Country Since 31/01/2020
Replies: 22828
Views: 641855

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

Yep I see, remain only have to win one referendum. Leave has to win at least 3, 4, 5, how many do you suggest??? Remain is the status quo. It's very easy to implement. In fact, we don't have to do anything at all. Because we're already there. Leave is far more complicated and as a result, a blank '...