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by Fretters
Thu Mar 28, 2024 6:55 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: The Burnley documentaries-who gets paid?
Replies: 5
Views: 362

Re: The Burnley documentaries-who gets paid?

ecc wrote:
Thu Mar 28, 2024 5:42 pm
Hope it ends in tears at Wrexham.
Why? They're decent blokes who are fully immersing themselves in the club and community. Far better than lots of other owners. Good luck to them.
by Fretters
Thu Mar 28, 2024 5:02 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Google Contactless Pay
Replies: 78
Views: 1993

Re: Google Contactless Pay

Bloody hell, I only started this thread to ask a quick question but now dsr has died and his brother is chopping off his finger :o
by Fretters
Thu Mar 28, 2024 1:00 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Coyle's Army
Replies: 49
Views: 2682

Re: Coyle's Army

You need to take a look at how things were when Dyche took over. 1. Players went for nothing at end of 2012/13 because we could only afford reduced wages. 2. Marney & Wallace accepted reduced terms. 3. Austin sold on eve of season, otherwise we would have been in serious trouble. 4. No money at all...
by Fretters
Thu Mar 28, 2024 12:33 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Coyle's Army
Replies: 49
Views: 2682

Re: Coyle's Army

I think we were under an embargo as well? We were, for missing installments on Eagles and possibly Paterson, I believe. We would have been absolutely knackered without that promotion and we'd have lost some key players. Sheffield United and Preston, who both lost in those 2009 play offs, were playi...
by Fretters
Thu Mar 28, 2024 8:35 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: On this day
Replies: 88
Views: 7950

Re: On this day

14 years today since Blackburn's last win against us.
by Fretters
Thu Mar 28, 2024 8:28 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Coyle's Army
Replies: 49
Views: 2682

Re: Coyle's Army

ClaretTony wrote:
Wed Mar 27, 2024 1:56 pm
WIll never, ever agree with that. We hadn't a pot to p in.
We were cash poor but had much stronger assets (players) than if we hadn't gone up which, as DR says, we traded to our advantage over the next few years.

Anyway, agree to disagree eh!
by Fretters
Wed Mar 27, 2024 10:15 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: On this day
Replies: 88
Views: 7950

Re: On this day

25 years ago today since we beat Macclesfield at home 4-3. Little, Cowan (overhead), Payton and Davis (last minute).

We'd been 2-0 down and this game was probably the start of Stan's team finally taking shape. I'm not sure we lost for the rest of the season?
by Fretters
Wed Mar 27, 2024 1:54 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Season tickets next season
Replies: 743
Views: 44001

Re: Season tickets next season

So direct debits start in May but at least there are still 12 of them, not 11 as speculated.
by Fretters
Wed Mar 27, 2024 1:43 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Coyle's Army
Replies: 49
Views: 2682

Re: Coyle's Army

Nothing to do with Coyle at all, we were in a state. We had to take Mee & Trippier on loans and then got them cheap with huge sell ons because we had no money. I believe they came because of a favour from John WIlliams who was then at City. As Dyche once said, he arrived and asked where the Premier...
by Fretters
Wed Mar 27, 2024 1:06 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Coyle's Army
Replies: 49
Views: 2682

Re: Coyle's Army

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Wed Mar 27, 2024 1:02 pm
Had Mullen & Stan not got us out of the 2 lower divisions we might never had got Coyle so perhaps it is down to Mullen rather than Coyle
Both of them, along with Stan. They all played their part on the journey.
by Fretters
Wed Mar 27, 2024 1:00 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Coyle's Army
Replies: 49
Views: 2682

Re: Coyle's Army

I dont think we'd have had Fletcher, Mears and Eagles if it wasn't for Coyle Without the Promotion money and the Fletcher profit I dont think Laws would have been able to sign Fox, Marney, Wallace and Iwelumo and I dont think Howe would have been able to sign Austin The money made from selling Fox,...
by Fretters
Wed Mar 27, 2024 12:47 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Coyle's Army
Replies: 49
Views: 2682

Re: Coyle's Army

I’d check things out if I were you. We had no money left. We were virtually back where we started. I know that, but we'd have surely been further behind without the £60m + parachute money? Are you really saying that if we'd not been promoted, with relegation and a likely relegation to league one (s...
by Fretters
Wed Mar 27, 2024 12:19 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Coyle's Army
Replies: 49
Views: 2682

Re: Coyle's Army

I think you are living in a different world if you think we signed those players on the back of that season. It's just not so. For many reasons we'd no money and those three signings came about because of generous directors. If we hadn't gone up in 2009 we were heading for administration. We were a...
by Fretters
Wed Mar 27, 2024 12:14 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Coyle's Army
Replies: 49
Views: 2682

Re: Coyle's Army

Are you suggesting we have never played at the new Wembley? 2009 play off plus we played Spurs there twice when they were having their new stadium built. I know Rovers haven't and aren't likely to in the near future, unless they make the League One play off final in a couple of seasons, presuming t...
by Fretters
Wed Mar 27, 2024 11:08 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Coyle's Army
Replies: 49
Views: 2682

Re: Coyle's Army

Great season under Coyle probably one of the best I’ve experienced if not the best, culminating with a win at Wembley to secure the Prem dream. Shame he was such a shister otherwise he would have been lorded as one of the Burnley greats. UTC He's a great to me as I genuinely believe we wouldn't hav...
by Fretters
Wed Mar 27, 2024 11:00 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Google Contactless Pay
Replies: 78
Views: 1993

Re: Google Contactless Pay

I'm all for technology if it makes life easier but personally don't see how this is any easier than cash or card. Drives me mad when you're stuck in a queue and somebody in front is struggling to pay with their phone holding everybody up. It's more the not having to carry a wallet around with me th...
by Fretters
Tue Mar 26, 2024 9:09 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Coyle's Army
Replies: 49
Views: 2682

Re: Coyle's Army

ClaretTony wrote:
Tue Mar 26, 2024 8:04 pm
The stupid boy is Kyle Lafferty
It's uncanny.
by Fretters
Tue Mar 26, 2024 9:07 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Google Contactless Pay
Replies: 78
Views: 1993

Re: Google Contactless Pay

Rileybobs wrote:
Tue Mar 26, 2024 7:51 pm
How exactly would you get into someone’s phone with a fingerprint from the case?
That's what of those BS things people hear down the pub, or see online, and just repeat as gospel without actually thinking about it. Happens way too much these days.
by Fretters
Tue Mar 26, 2024 6:09 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Google Contactless Pay
Replies: 78
Views: 1993

Re: Google Contactless Pay

Isn't extra security a good thing 🤔 The phone had to be unlocked first (by fingerprint or face) before using contactless so it was still secure. I've just been to Aldi and it was actually much smoother. Still the extra fingerprint requirement, but it didn't behave like the payment had failed and ma...
by Fretters
Tue Mar 26, 2024 6:04 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Coyle's Army
Replies: 49
Views: 2682

Re: Coyle's Army

claretburns wrote:
Tue Mar 26, 2024 5:27 pm
First one definitely Ade, 3rd from the left is Paterson maybe?

Definitely not Marney, he wasn't signed until summer 2010 by Laws.
Ha, you're bang on about Marney, and I was absolutely convinced on that one!
by Fretters
Tue Mar 26, 2024 4:56 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Coyle's Army
Replies: 49
Views: 2682

Re: Coyle's Army

I've never seen that.

Coyle, Ade, don't know, Thompson (?), Blake (?), don't know, Marney.

Can anyone fill in the blanks and confirm the others?
by Fretters
Tue Mar 26, 2024 4:34 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Google Contactless Pay
Replies: 78
Views: 1993

Re: Google Contactless Pay

Devils_Advocate wrote:
Tue Mar 26, 2024 4:33 pm
Yep, I notices this but I unlock my phone using a finger print so if I unlock my phone and then tap it doesnt make me do the finger recognition again.
I'll try that, thanks. Was it recently you first noticed it?
by Fretters
Tue Mar 26, 2024 4:26 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Google Contactless Pay
Replies: 78
Views: 1993

Google Contactless Pay

Has anyone noticed a difference with this? Previously I just had to unlock my phone and tap it to pay, but now when I do that, the payment fails and I have to use my fingerprint in Google wallet before tapping again. It's a right faff at the checkout and has completely wiped out the convenience of i...
by Fretters
Tue Mar 26, 2024 9:59 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Fixtures disappeared ???
Replies: 11
Views: 961

Re: Fixtures disappeared ???

Maybe we aren't playing again. Would explain the lack of season ticket info.
by Fretters
Mon Mar 25, 2024 1:02 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Turfcast interview with Andy Cooke
Replies: 31
Views: 2732

Re: Turfcast interview with Andy Cooke

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:
Mon Mar 25, 2024 12:59 pm
Remember Creaney scoring at home to Carlisle (our first win of season) and away at Blackpool. A decent player.
He got two in the Carlisle game.
by Fretters
Mon Mar 25, 2024 12:54 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Turfcast interview with Andy Cooke
Replies: 31
Views: 2732

Re: Turfcast interview with Andy Cooke

Maybe alongside Paul Barnes? He was in the side until we swapped him for Payton in January 98. On that subject - I used to always think of Barnes as something of a goal hanger who offered very little/nothing else to the side but I recently watched the highlights of the 96/97 season under Heath and ...
by Fretters
Mon Mar 25, 2024 11:41 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Truro City - fixture congestion and ground (pitch) problems
Replies: 42
Views: 1549

Re: Truro City - fixture congestion and ground (pitch) problems

boatshed bill wrote:
Mon Mar 25, 2024 9:33 am
Paul Wotton is Truro's manager; didn't Stan try to sign him?
That rings a bell, when he played for Plymouth I think?
by Fretters
Mon Mar 25, 2024 11:15 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Turfcast interview with Andy Cooke
Replies: 31
Views: 2732

Re: Turfcast interview with Andy Cooke

helmclaret wrote:
Sun Mar 24, 2024 10:30 pm
I remember Creaney as Andy did and would never said he scored 8 in 10!
Just checked, it was 8 in 10. I thought he was playing alongside Cooke too as we didn't have Payton then, but Cookey says Creaney was keeping him out of the team. Did we go with one up top under Waddle for a bit?
by Fretters
Sun Mar 24, 2024 6:18 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley divisive XI' would be a fun thing to do... Thread worthy!
Replies: 97
Views: 3253

Re: Burnley divisive XI' would be a fun thing to do... Thread worthy!

I liked Jeff Hendrick but in the season we came 7th we went just shy of 3 months without a win, barely scoring a goal, with him playing off the striker. It was grim. The run of 5 wins on the bounce that saved the season started with Wood's return from injury with Wood coming off the bench for Hendr...
by Fretters
Sun Mar 24, 2024 10:15 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley divisive XI' would be a fun thing to do... Thread worthy!
Replies: 97
Views: 3253

Re: Burnley divisive XI' would be a fun thing to do... Thread worthy!

Ian Moore must be in there - plenty liked him - I thought he was a dog chasing a balloon. I’d probably have him alongside Martin Paterson, another who, his goal at Reading aside, I didn’t think much of. There’s loads who have really divided opinion and plenty who still continue to do so… Hendrick, ...
by Fretters
Sun Mar 24, 2024 10:01 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Natural Gas
Replies: 30
Views: 2298

Re: Natural Gas

Sorry, Loup, so many things missing from your understanding of wholesale markets. It does matter where countries buy natgas from. It's always cheaper to buy natgas delivered via pipelines. In the 1990s the UK produced all the natgas the country wanted to consume and more. There was s massive surplu...
by Fretters
Sun Mar 24, 2024 2:38 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Sven-Goran Eriksson
Replies: 27
Views: 3223

Re: Sven-Goran Eriksson

bfcjg wrote:
Sat Mar 23, 2024 9:03 pm
https://news.sky.com/story/sven-goran-e ... l-13100675
Lovely touch by Liverpool.
Still got it too. They were 2-0 down at half time and Gerrard said Sven changed the tactics, leading to a 4-2 win.
by Fretters
Sun Mar 24, 2024 2:30 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley divisive XI' would be a fun thing to do... Thread worthy!
Replies: 97
Views: 3253

Re: Burnley divisive XI' would be a fun thing to do... Thread worthy!

Joe Hart. Often won man of the match, but the team just didn't seem to click with him in it. I think there was many a debate on here about him.
by Fretters
Sat Mar 23, 2024 5:55 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Chesterfield back in the league
Replies: 46
Views: 2686

Re: Chesterfield back in the league

South West Claret. wrote:
Sat Mar 23, 2024 5:51 pm
That Speirites I think there called if that’s the correct spelling?
Spireites.

And 'they're' ;-) :lol:
by Fretters
Sat Mar 23, 2024 5:43 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Weghorst
Replies: 129
Views: 6838

Re: Weghorst

Means more winning headers for knock downs and being used as a head on a stick/target man - which incidentally (though far past his best) Crouchy showed that he couldn't do whilst he was here... was very annoying seeing Dyche launch the ball into the box for the 10 mins or so he was on the pitch wh...
by Fretters
Sat Mar 23, 2024 5:42 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Chesterfield back in the league
Replies: 46
Views: 2686

Chesterfield back in the league

After the drawn-out battle between Wrexham and Notts County last season, Paul Cook's Spireites have made it look easy this season, winning promotion with five games to go. They should smash the 100 point barrier easily. I was surprised to see WIll Grigg plays for them now. It doesn't seem long since...
by Fretters
Sat Mar 23, 2024 5:33 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Weghorst
Replies: 129
Views: 6838

Re: Weghorst

superdimitri wrote:
Sat Mar 23, 2024 7:41 am
Weghorst plays similar to how Crouch did. Strength not with heading but with close control. Deceivingly tall, a bit like Glen Little too.
Doesn't Crouch have the most headed goals in the Premier League?
by Fretters
Sat Mar 23, 2024 10:16 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Natural Gas
Replies: 30
Views: 2298

Re: Natural Gas

ISpeds00 wrote:
Fri Mar 22, 2024 10:40 pm
That's the same with pretty much anything
I know, but a lot seem to think cheaper wholesale prices should be instantly passed onto the consumer and it doesn't work like that.
by Fretters
Fri Mar 22, 2024 10:34 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Natural Gas
Replies: 30
Views: 2298

Re: Natural Gas

One thing to bear in mind is that we're paying for the gas that was bought months ago at higher prices. It takes a bit of time before lower wholesale prices are passed onto consumers.
by Fretters
Fri Mar 22, 2024 4:48 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Turfcast interview with Andy Cooke
Replies: 31
Views: 2732

Re: Turfcast interview with Andy Cooke

Just got to the "Gerry Creaney scored a goal here and there" bit.. wasn't it something like 8 in 10? :lol:
by Fretters
Thu Mar 21, 2024 6:20 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Season tickets next season
Replies: 743
Views: 44001

Re: Season tickets next season

ClaretTony wrote:
Thu Mar 21, 2024 3:31 pm
If that information is correct then why on earth are the club not saying anything? What are Ball and his team doing within fan engagement, they are very definitely not engaging.
As we've seen with the set piece coach, I don't think job titles mean much!
by Fretters
Thu Mar 21, 2024 6:06 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Harry Kane statue
Replies: 44
Views: 2141

Re: Harry Kane statue

When I saw him sitting on a bench, I thought it was Manuel Benson.
by Fretters
Thu Mar 21, 2024 4:44 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: what is YOUR favourite era watching the Clarets ?
Replies: 57
Views: 1968

Re: what is YOUR favourite era watching the Clarets ?

For me, it's the Dyche years, particularly the 13-14 season when everything just clicked. Nobody gave us a prayer when we sold Austin just before the season. I started watching in 94-95 (started on a relegation, great) and I have fond memories of Heath's 96-97 season when John Ward was around. For s...
by Fretters
Thu Mar 21, 2024 3:59 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Sven Botman
Replies: 20
Views: 2244

Re: Sven Botman

ClaretTony wrote:
Thu Mar 21, 2024 3:13 pm
Now the favourite with the bookies
I still don't think it will happen. He's great at getting groups to bond and work together, which is perfect for tournament football and something better tacticians than him have failed to do, but he isn't an elite manager at all.

My opinion, of course.
by Fretters
Thu Mar 21, 2024 10:42 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Sven Botman
Replies: 20
Views: 2244

Re: Sven Botman

Usual bxxxxxxx talked about Eddie for England when Southgate goes to Manure.Eddie is dead man walking as the Arab owners expected a top 4 finish this year and lmo he will get binned . United would be plain mental to appoint Southgate who bombed at Boro and Southgate would be mad to leave his very c...
by Fretters
Wed Mar 20, 2024 12:39 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: 007
Replies: 47
Views: 2434

Re: 007

I was hoping it would be James Norton or Tom Hardy.
by Fretters
Tue Mar 19, 2024 3:06 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley v Brentford - Player Ratings
Replies: 136
Views: 7087

Re: Burnley v Brentford - Player Ratings

ClaretTony wrote:
Tue Mar 19, 2024 10:27 am
One 10 and that was from FCBurnley who gave Trafford 7 at Brighton earlier this season but Muric 10 on Saturday. Tom came fourth in the man of the match vote and third in the player ratings.
That's a surprise. Did McNeil finish top?
by Fretters
Mon Mar 18, 2024 1:13 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Motd
Replies: 76
Views: 4990

Re: Motd

It's the lack of knowledge that bugs me. "We didn't know much about that from him" (On Muric's passing ability) being an example. The usual pundits seem to spend the day watching their games and researching the key players (e.g. a goalkeeper making his first start of the season) but she seemed to kn...
by Fretters
Sun Mar 17, 2024 10:12 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: REPORT: And finally a second home win for the Clarets
Replies: 24
Views: 1771

Re: REPORT: And finally a second home win for the Clarets

A great report and couldn't agree more on the treatment of Trafford. His confidence may never recover from this season and it's absolutely inexcusable, especially when we've had last year's Championship goalkeeper of the year sitting on our effing bench.
by Fretters
Sun Mar 17, 2024 11:40 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley v Brentford - Player Ratings
Replies: 136
Views: 7087

Re: Burnley v Brentford - Player Ratings

It would be interesting to know what Heaton's ratings were when Dyche dropped Hart for him. 9s and 10s probably.