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by Cleveleys_claret
Sun Aug 18, 2019 1:46 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Here’s our third kit....
Replies: 74
Views: 5262

Re: Here’s our third kit....

I've not bought a football shirt in about 10 years, but I'd 100% have bought one of those if it wasn't for the betting logo. I refuse to willingly advertise for a betting company. I might pop in though and ask if I can have one without the sponsor. Doubt it will be possible but you never know I am ...
by Cleveleys_claret
Sun Aug 18, 2019 1:43 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: England vs Australia 2nd test
Replies: 152
Views: 4129

Re: England vs Australia 2nd test

I cant recall anyone making such an impression on an a debut Ashes test as Archer has. Everyone has only been saying how Smith is untouchable, will we ever get his wicket. Something like this can seriously damage a batters mental state. Everytime Smith plays us now he will be bricking facing Archer ...
by Cleveleys_claret
Sun Aug 18, 2019 12:11 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Owen Jones assaulted
Replies: 110
Views: 3491

Re: Owen Jones assaulted

TVC15 wrote:I haven’t seen anything - hence why I don’t feel the need to make up my own version of events


Havent you just done that by saying

"there was no indication i’ve seen that it was provoked or justified"

Therefore making up your own version that it wasnt provoked or justified.
by Cleveleys_claret
Sun Aug 18, 2019 11:20 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Owen Jones assaulted
Replies: 110
Views: 3491

Re: Owen Jones assaulted

Quite strange to make up your own version of what happen based on watching a couple interviews of him debating politics. It’s no different to assuming the people who did it were right wing nazis who go around beating gay people just for the fun of it. At this stage all we know is that what they did...
by Cleveleys_claret
Sun Aug 18, 2019 10:32 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Owen Jones assaulted
Replies: 110
Views: 3491

Re: Owen Jones assaulted

Since finding this post I have watched a few of his youtube videos. Nothing wrong with him in my opinion, pretty harmless, imagining middle class university graduate wanting to tell us all how the world should be. But I also watched the Sky News interview where he stormed off. As he is arguing he ge...
by Cleveleys_claret
Sun Aug 18, 2019 8:18 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Mike Garlick on 'Turf More'
Replies: 111
Views: 6199

Re: Mike Garlick on 'Turf More'

What Mike fails to disclose in his interview is that the 20 million pound bid for a player was 2 players Vydra and Hart, who we valued at 25 million for the pair. Therefore when we said give us Phillips and 5 million and you can have our two they slammed the phone down
by Cleveleys_claret
Sun Aug 18, 2019 8:14 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Owen Jones assaulted
Replies: 110
Views: 3491

Re: Owen Jones assaulted

This. Didn't have a clue who he was until this thread appeared. The right wing thugs that were out in the early hours....most probabaly waiting at a nearby newsagents for the early copies of The Guardian to be delivered. This smacks of either wrong place wrong time or somebody taking humbrage at so...
by Cleveleys_claret
Sun Aug 18, 2019 8:10 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Andy Carroll
Replies: 28
Views: 3052

Re: Andy Carroll

CharlieinNewMexico wrote:oooooooo 2 games!!


Plus the 10 last year.
by Cleveleys_claret
Sun Aug 18, 2019 7:24 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Owen Jones assaulted
Replies: 110
Views: 3491

Re: Owen Jones assaulted

Who is Owen Jones?

I doubt right wing thugs would really know who he was...as I bet over 75% of the population wouldnt if his picture was put before them.
by Cleveleys_claret
Sat Aug 17, 2019 7:28 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: City v Spurs
Replies: 70
Views: 1419

Re: City v Spurs

Serves the top clubs right. They all wanted it. Now they are all moaning about it. No way would it of been passed without the consent of the top 6
by Cleveleys_claret
Sat Aug 17, 2019 6:21 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: England vs Australia 2nd test
Replies: 152
Views: 4129

Re: England vs Australia 2nd test

Denly gone for a good looking 26,shades of Mark Ramprakash,promises lots and delivers little. Burns gone for 29 now,advantage the baggy greens. 71-4,lead is only 79,another 100 and this could still be interesting. England definitely can't afford any more falling tonight. Ramprakash really was an en...
by Cleveleys_claret
Sat Aug 17, 2019 6:19 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: England vs Australia 2nd test
Replies: 152
Views: 4129

Re: England vs Australia 2nd test

nil_desperandum wrote:What, in addition to his brother Tom??
That's incredible bad luck. Two in one day.


Have I got the wrong brother ha ha. Having a nightmare this week. Brains frazzled
by Cleveleys_claret
Sat Aug 17, 2019 6:19 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Arsenal v Burnley - Player Ratings
Replies: 82
Views: 3343

Re: Arsenal v Burnley - Player Ratings

Just haven’t seen the same McNeil this season yet, it’s very much possible Dyche has sucked the flair out of him. I would say it is more down to Pieters being behind him instead of Taylor. Just think him and Taylor know each others game so well where as him and Pieters havent built up that understa...
by Cleveleys_claret
Sat Aug 17, 2019 6:13 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: England vs Australia 2nd test
Replies: 152
Views: 4129

Re: England vs Australia 2nd test

Ok, for starters: Dom Sibley is 10, (yes 10 years younger than Denly). He's a better batter and can only improve. Sam Curran would give us an extra bowling option, and will make more runs than Roy batting down the order, and the rest can all shift up a position. I've no problem with Woakes at 7 and...
by Cleveleys_claret
Sat Aug 17, 2019 4:28 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Andy Carroll
Replies: 28
Views: 3052

Re: Andy Carroll

CharlieinNewMexico wrote:You're basing that off 10 games? In a new league, in a new country, in a new continent? 10 games.

You're a joke.


Ripping the league a new one is Almiron!!!!!
by Cleveleys_claret
Sat Aug 17, 2019 3:22 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Positives and Negatives
Replies: 28
Views: 2037

Re: Positives and Negatives

AndrewJB wrote:VAR will be a positive for us. Their disallowed goal might have stood for them in previous years.


How would it have stood when the linesman had his flag up?
by Cleveleys_claret
Fri Aug 16, 2019 9:29 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Corn Flakes
Replies: 48
Views: 1142

Re: Corn Flakes

Porridge is an amazing food. I have got into thr habit of having it for breakfast every day. One of the best foods for your heart. Somehow unclogs your arteries to and from your heart and massively lessens your chances of having blood clots. One of the real super foods. Bit bland on its own mind
by Cleveleys_claret
Fri Aug 16, 2019 5:02 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Andy Lonergan
Replies: 34
Views: 1776

Re: Andy Lonergan

Used to love away days at their place. That huge stand behind the goal bouncing. Not always had the best results but worth it for King Arthur
by Cleveleys_claret
Fri Aug 16, 2019 1:43 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Andy Lonergan
Replies: 34
Views: 1776

Andy Lonergan

Looks like he will be starting for Liverpool tomorrow as Adrian got injured by a fan celebrating with him the other night.
by Cleveleys_claret
Fri Aug 16, 2019 10:02 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Mike Garlick on 'Turf More'
Replies: 111
Views: 6199

Re: Mike Garlick on 'Turf More'

I heard from a well known source that the 20million bid was for Lionel Messi. We were shocked when it was turned down.
by Cleveleys_claret
Thu Aug 15, 2019 10:03 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Mike Garlick on 'Turf More'
Replies: 111
Views: 6199

Re: Mike Garlick on 'Turf More'

This is why I dont like the guy. Yes he has done great for Burnley but I doubt any other manager would have stuck at it. Silence all the way through the window then does things like this. Havent watched it yet but usually throws in a bit of hope for the next window but after hearing it more than 10 ...
by Cleveleys_claret
Thu Aug 15, 2019 2:29 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: PLATINUM BET TIPS
Replies: 27
Views: 1261

Re: PLATINUM BET TIPS

If you have twitter its worth following Getyourtipsout. Dont have to pay. No selling off them. Good tips and reasoning given. Have a good strike rate with their naps and daily doubles. Yes often only short priced faves but they also do a daily longshot which is well worth following.
by Cleveleys_claret
Thu Aug 15, 2019 2:23 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Defour and Drinkwater latest news
Replies: 21
Views: 2297

Re: ARTICLE: Defour and Drinkwater latest news

Brady started the last away game of last season at Everton and then came on as a sub a week later. He was fit quite a bit of the second half of the season but couldn't get into the team because of the form of McNeil. Not sure where you got October being his last game. Brady has also come on as a su...
by Cleveleys_claret
Thu Aug 15, 2019 2:11 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Defour and Drinkwater latest news
Replies: 21
Views: 2297

Re: ARTICLE: Defour and Drinkwater latest news

I take it you've never suffered this kind of rib injury You only said yesterday how you thought it would be best for everyone if Defour was moved on (along those lines). Yet his last game was end of Sept last year and Brady's was october...about 3 weeks difference. Should Brady be moved on also? De...
by Cleveleys_claret
Tue Aug 13, 2019 8:57 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: League Cup should be scrapped
Replies: 30
Views: 1696

Re: League Cup should be scrapped

Personally feel it should be regionalised in some way. The costs and hassle involved for 2nd division teams who are already playing 46 games and then with trips in the week for cup matches. Its not like they get planes like some of the top clubs will. Long bus journeys which have been proven not to ...
by Cleveleys_claret
Tue Aug 13, 2019 8:50 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: League Cup should be scrapped
Replies: 30
Views: 1696

Re: League Cup should be scrapped

I think some of the smaller clubs would disagree with you ;) Think it was Andy Holt last year that tweeted about the costs involved and how The lower teams unless they draw a big team are often running at a loss being in the tournament. They need to get to the 4th round before it becomes worth it f...
by Cleveleys_claret
Tue Aug 13, 2019 8:24 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: League Cup should be scrapped
Replies: 30
Views: 1696

League Cup should be scrapped

Just looking through some of the scores and a couple of surprises so looked at the line ups. Absolutely shocking. League 2 outfits playing teams with 5 or 6 kids. No intention of trying to win (dont blame them, small budgets, extra games). It is only there for the benefit of the top 6 deciding who t...
by Cleveleys_claret
Tue Aug 13, 2019 8:18 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: PLATINUM BET TIPS
Replies: 27
Views: 1261

Re: PLATINUM BET TIPS

They will be telling you £50 a point and then getting you to back 4 points on very short priced favourites all the time
by Cleveleys_claret
Tue Aug 13, 2019 7:46 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Interesting stats
Replies: 26
Views: 1439

Re: Interesting stats

Grimsdale wrote:Nugent has only scored 14 PL goals.


Oh yeah...must have read it wrong ha ha. Thats what late nights do
by Cleveleys_claret
Tue Aug 13, 2019 2:14 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Interesting stats
Replies: 26
Views: 1439

Re: Interesting stats

So Nugent makes it 8?
by Cleveleys_claret
Tue Aug 13, 2019 2:13 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Interesting stats
Replies: 26
Views: 1439

Re: Interesting stats

Jon Walters - 43
Aaron Lennon - 34 (tied)
David Nugent - 49
David Unsworth - 38
Sam Vokes - 34 (tied)

Jay Rod on 33 at present
by Cleveleys_claret
Mon Aug 12, 2019 7:28 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: This laughing stock from Norway
Replies: 49
Views: 3089

Re: This laughing stock from Norway

IT - I know how much you respect the laws and have strong views on several issues, but if this man is found guilty, he is still to be tried I am presuming and I know how much you respect the process, in an ideal world what would you feel would be a punishment fitting of the crime? I am not trying to...
by Cleveleys_claret
Mon Aug 12, 2019 7:22 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: This laughing stock from Norway
Replies: 49
Views: 3089

Re: This laughing stock from Norway

Mohammed Rafiq, give that man a medal!!!! Not all superheroes wear capes
by Cleveleys_claret
Mon Aug 12, 2019 6:59 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Kightly confirms his retirement
Replies: 26
Views: 1454

Re: ARTICLE: Kightly confirms his retirement

Belgianclaret wrote:Remember him scoring an important game at Blackpool in our promotion season


Memory serves me right he scored the first from a free kick in the following game against Wigan past Shaka Hislop which won us promotion (?)
by Cleveleys_claret
Mon Aug 12, 2019 6:25 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Reached the peak of our spending...
Replies: 40
Views: 2079

Re: Reached the peak of our spending...

We would all like to see us signing younger players that go straight into the first team but it is unlikely to happen. Why spend 15m plus on a young player who may or may not make it when you can pick up an Erik Pieters or Bardsley for little over a million who will still play for you for 3 years? B...
by Cleveleys_claret
Mon Aug 12, 2019 5:32 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Kightly confirms his retirement
Replies: 26
Views: 1454

Re: ARTICLE: Kightly confirms his retirement

Fantastic selfless player for us. Wasnt the most talented player we have had but put his all in. Even with us you could tell earlier injuries had impacted his game.
by Cleveleys_claret
Mon Aug 12, 2019 1:27 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Reached the peak of our spending...
Replies: 40
Views: 2079

Re: Reached the peak of our spending...

I believe that we now have a squad that is capable of winning a cup game. That is how good I think we are now
by Cleveleys_claret
Mon Aug 12, 2019 1:24 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Hendrick
Replies: 67
Views: 3824

Re: Hendrick

I agree he is a fantastic player but his biggest fault is his adaptability. If he was one dimensial like many players we have had SD he would have been given a role and carried it out and SD would have been happy and likewise the fans. But because he can move here there and everywhere he is expected...
by Cleveleys_claret
Mon Aug 12, 2019 1:05 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Hendrick
Replies: 67
Views: 3824

Re: Hendrick

When you operate like we do on tight budgets he is a perfect fit for us. Can play multiple roles meaning we dont need the same amount of back up across all positions knowing he can slot in. I do think though that he will want away. He will want to play in what he believes to be his best position and...
by Cleveleys_claret
Mon Aug 12, 2019 10:03 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: RATE THE REF - Graham Scott v Southampton
Replies: 35
Views: 1320

Re: RATE THE REF - Graham Scott v Southampton

They showed the full match on SKY on Sat evening, but you are only supposed to give marks if you actually attended the game. Dpinsussex is taking humbrage at CT's and a few others' opinion of the refereeing performance yet states himself that he only watched extended highlights. How can he even hav...
by Cleveleys_claret
Sun Aug 11, 2019 11:20 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: A question re: Taylor v Pieters and McNeil
Replies: 41
Views: 2030

Re: A question re: Taylor v Pieters and McNeil

When Taylor is fully fit he will be back in. Dyche doesnt drop anyone through injury.....lack of form yes. He stated in an interview once a player doesnt lose his shirt because of injury as that is not fair
by Cleveleys_claret
Sun Aug 11, 2019 10:40 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Bolton Squad Today
Replies: 33
Views: 1902

Re: Bolton Squad Today

Surprised Brockbank and Darcy are still there. Both from what I have heard are highly thought of
by Cleveleys_claret
Sun Aug 11, 2019 10:38 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Keep off your phone
Replies: 9
Views: 1421

Re: Keep off your phone

So they can fund having undercovers at matches for betting infringements but not for racist ot homophobic abuse. We all know where their priorities lie
by Cleveleys_claret
Sun Aug 11, 2019 10:36 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: VAR.........
Replies: 76
Views: 1416

Re: VAR.........

Paul Waine wrote:Are the Premier League giving up, totally on the rule of one foot on the line?


That rule is not one which VAR has control over. It is solely the referees decision. He should be monitoring that area and deciding. VAR is for the things he can not always see.
by Cleveleys_claret
Sun Aug 11, 2019 10:33 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Ashley Barnes question
Replies: 53
Views: 3937

Re: Ashley Barnes question

Don't underestimate Ashley's skill. The way he controlled the ball on his thigh, in difficult conditions, was first class. There arent many players who can stop a ball dead like Ashley. His control of long balls is unbelievable. The way he can trap it, or cushion it to bring it under control is not...
by Cleveleys_claret
Sun Aug 11, 2019 9:58 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Bolton Squad Today
Replies: 33
Views: 1902

Re: Bolton Squad Today

Steve stone should be offering several of them u23 contracts if we are short on numbers. At least they know they will be paid
by Cleveleys_claret
Sun Aug 11, 2019 9:55 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: RATE THE REF - Graham Scott v Southampton
Replies: 35
Views: 1320

Re: RATE THE REF - Graham Scott v Southampton

How can you offer a view of a referees performance after watching extended highlights?
by Cleveleys_claret
Sun Aug 11, 2019 9:50 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: The new Top 4/6
Replies: 14
Views: 1118

Re: The new Top 4/6

Also I wouldn't say that Roman Abramovich has stopped his interest in Chelseas - pumped £164m in this summer via a share issue http://uptheclarets.com/messageboard/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=20891&start=1819 Not fully up on this like yourself Perry. But does he not do this every year although usua...
by Cleveleys_claret
Sun Aug 11, 2019 9:39 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Ashley Barnes question
Replies: 53
Views: 3937

Re: Ashley Barnes question

The guy epitomises everything we are about as a football club. There have been many fantastic players through the doors over the last few years but no one comes close to Ashley in epitomising everything we are about. Absolutely love the guy. He has developed so much. 3 or 4 years ago I worried each ...
by Cleveleys_claret
Sun Aug 11, 2019 9:33 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Same old story
Replies: 6
Views: 671

Re: Same old story

Gofundme page needs setting up so you can attend every game

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