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by keith1879
Thu Jul 18, 2019 11:13 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 10422
Views: 154898

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

I’ve pointed these things out to Wrongo before and he replies with a very specific definition of ‘single expression of democracy’ to mean the most people that have voted for a single thing. It’s not a definition that anyone else would recognise of course, but facts and words mean different things o...
by keith1879
Wed Jul 17, 2019 3:58 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 10422
Views: 154898

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

I see aggi is still struggling to accept the result of the largest single expression of democracy this country has ever witnessed. Adults find it an easy to process to come to terms with. https://bathforeurope.com/2018/12/10/was-the-2016-referendum-really-the-biggest-democratic-exercise-in-this-cou...
by keith1879
Tue Jul 16, 2019 2:05 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Most over rated Burnley player. (EVER)
Replies: 127
Views: 3581

Re: Most over rated Burnley player. (EVER)

Going off some of the posts idolising him - Steven Defour, sadly. I’ve even seen posts on here saying he’s the best player to have played for us since we last won the league :lol: Was wondering if it was just me that thinks this. i never thought he was more than good ....but when you look at his in...
by keith1879
Thu Jul 11, 2019 9:39 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Strong looking squad
Replies: 62
Views: 3796

Re: Strong looking squad

Go on then, find some opinion from elsewhere that clearly questions our midfield and not our defence, and in particular our situation in goal, once Heaton replaced Joe Hart? Midfield is almost always "the problem". If you don't win the ball (or lose the ball) in midfield then the defence ...
by keith1879
Tue Jul 09, 2019 3:25 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Vydra exit now inevitable?
Replies: 63
Views: 4877

Re: Vydra exit now inevitable?

How can an experiment be *'failed' when it hasn't been carried out? Vydra got ridiculously little time on the pitch despite not exactly disgracing himself when he was used. If I was him I'd be itching to get away - it's a year of his life he won't get back. One can only assume that his lack of use ...
by keith1879
Mon Jul 08, 2019 11:44 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Aston Villa - another BOOM !!!!!!!!!
Replies: 58
Views: 4278

Re: Aston Villa - another BOOM !!!!!!!!!

One thing is for sure we have gone backwards because in theory if a Andre Gray came on the market now for 8-10m playing for a championship club we would not land him - why ? because we would alert the world first by a low unrealistic bid ad then get muscled out. A updated verson is the Che Adams si...
by keith1879
Mon Jul 08, 2019 3:50 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 10422
Views: 154898

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

TheFamilyCat wrote:Project Fear..... you lost get over it..... will of the people...... undemocratic...... sovereignty..... libtards.....

Have I missed any?


"bitter remoaners" is the obvious one I think
by keith1879
Thu Jun 27, 2019 4:51 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Sean Dyche
Replies: 46
Views: 3234

Re: Sean Dyche

Ok then im genuinely interested on how you arrive at the conclusion that Newcastle fans think they should be in the top 6 if its not something you've just made up Having worked in Newcastle for well over a decade I can confirm that their delusions of grandeur are ...... grandly delusional or someth...
by keith1879
Thu May 30, 2019 1:50 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: The next Tory Leader..
Replies: 312
Views: 9786

Re: The next Tory Leader..

The thing that strikes me about Michael Gove is that (like Norman Lamont) he looks a lot like Surface Agent x20 out of Stingray. That's the most serious thing I can find to say about this bunch of rubbish and Labour are no better.
by keith1879
Thu May 23, 2019 12:42 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Alastair Campbell:Depression and Me (BBC 2 9PM)
Replies: 46
Views: 3402

Re: Alastair Campbell:Depression and Me (BBC 2 9PM)

Very interesting program ....my late wife suffered from depression although not with the violent mood swings that AC described. His exploration of alternative approaches - and caution at embracing them struck me as refreshingly open minded. Actually seeking evidence and considering it critically - n...
by keith1879
Thu May 23, 2019 12:28 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Gabor Kiralyi
Replies: 48
Views: 3959

Re: Gabor Kiralyi

Danny Coyne. That was the Welsh keeper, who was not very good at all, despite SC raving about him. Think it was a case of not liking Beast, so every other keeper was magnified to world star, in his eyes. Grant, I saw, plag a blinder against Villa, in the League Cup. Stole Beasts place and was never...
by keith1879
Thu May 23, 2019 12:26 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: M25 murderer set to be released
Replies: 39
Views: 2044

Re: M25 murderer set to be released

On the one hand he is now 71 ....so physically and (perhaps) mentally entering a different phase of life. On the other he has been considered and turned down for parole at least once previously (in 2015) and the reasons for refusal looked unlikely to change in just a few years. Quite a bit on the BB...
by keith1879
Thu May 16, 2019 2:20 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Leeds 700 not out
Replies: 28
Views: 2215

Re: Leeds 700 not out

I meant to add that Villa have won the European Cup and Leeds think they have ....both very big things.
by keith1879
Thu May 16, 2019 2:18 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Leeds 700 not out
Replies: 28
Views: 2215

Re: Leeds 700 not out

The sad thing is, there is no way clubs like us deserve to be above Leeds. We are just a small town with limited resources and a tiny fan base. Playing in an outdated stadium. Clubs like Villa and Leeds have huge tradition. Thousands and thousands of fans. And huge media coverage. They deserve to g...
by keith1879
Thu May 09, 2019 8:03 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: The Death Penalty.
Replies: 187
Views: 5496

Re: The Death Penalty.

Just to add some balance the death penalty will not stop all crime and it may not deter some sickos but it may make someone think twice about wielding a weapon or committing murder. Once it has happened once in the current era it will serve as a deterrent and the victims will have had justice. As a...
by keith1879
Thu May 09, 2019 1:08 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Bolton
Replies: 794
Views: 57977

Re: Bolton

Lancasterclaret wrote:The last line is the problem for me though

At what stage do we go "right, thats too much of a risk"?


Thankfully "we" (on this forum) don't make that decision...
by keith1879
Thu May 09, 2019 12:05 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Champion’s League Final: Who Do You Want To Prevail?
Replies: 68
Views: 1681

Re: Champion’s League Final: Who Do You Want To Prevail?

Spurs for me. The 1970s and 80s were a pain for a young Burnley fan living in the area yet surrounded by kids who 'supported' Liverpool. I don't have anywhere near the antipathy for Man United as a result of them being relatively bobbins during this period, whereas the Liverpool kids were glory hun...
by keith1879
Thu May 09, 2019 10:41 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: The beginning of the end for privatised railways?
Replies: 72
Views: 2721

Re: The beginning of the end for privatised railways?

You can't post that graph and then mic drop. I can't think what happened post war, can you? Oh yeah, everyone bought a car and as a country we went on a road building spree to drive them on. At the end of the 90s people started reverting to rail because frankly the roads had suffered under investme...
by keith1879
Thu May 09, 2019 9:49 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: The beginning of the end for privatised railways?
Replies: 72
Views: 2721

Re: The beginning of the end for privatised railways?

Because those of us who remember State owned railways, remember what a crock of **** they were !! And for them to happen, Corbyn would have to be Prime Minister, oh dear !! They were however far less costly to the country than the current set-up. Any time you read that the current railway system is...
by keith1879
Tue May 07, 2019 6:28 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: The Death Penalty.
Replies: 187
Views: 5496

Re: The Death Penalty.

As a reasonable human being I find the death penalty abhorrent. However, if it was re-introduced in this country I would prefer it if the suspects were tried and found guilty of their crimes before being executed. If that makes me too liberal for you then you are a wazzock. Well said ....and as a f...
by keith1879
Thu Apr 18, 2019 2:56 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 10422
Views: 154898

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

dsr wrote:Even on here, behind the cloak of anonymity, there are only five or so rabidly intolerant remainers.


Personally I find that rabidly intolerant supporters of any viewpoint are equally off-putting. Sadly these days it seems to be a badge of superiority to demonstrate no concept of doubt or balance.
by keith1879
Thu Apr 18, 2019 2:44 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: VAR
Replies: 67
Views: 1902

Re: VAR

how on earth did it ruin last nights game ? bizarre Ruined it for me and I suspect many others. A match of excitement which had almost everything finished with a complete let-down ........a goal that was disallowed after a ridiculously long wait. i wanted City to lose ....but not like that. Without...
by keith1879
Fri Apr 12, 2019 11:12 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Cardiff tickets nearly sold out
Replies: 55
Views: 6279

Re: Cardiff tickets nearly sold out

Pretty sure City used to have a scaffold / temporary stand they put up in the corner for big games when they were at Maine Road similar to the type of thing Lancs CC (and possibly other CC's use? Would this not be a (cheap) option that the club could utilise to increase capacity for bigger games? T...
by keith1879
Thu Apr 11, 2019 2:52 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 10422
Views: 154898

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

Although written by a Leave voter this is pretty much what my view is on the Brexit process https://twitter.com/AdrianYalland/status/1115360516027949057?s=19 I don't agree with his expectation that we won't leave the EU.....I expect that we will ....the only issue is limiting the damage to our coun...
by keith1879
Thu Apr 11, 2019 2:06 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Something both sides of the Brexit debate will agree on.
Replies: 13
Views: 767

Re: Something both sides of the Brexit debate will agree on.

I couldn't agree more. I finish work and try to settle down around 8.00pm and have my tea while catching up on the news and all I hear is this prick bellowing away whenever they interview someone outside Westminster. An interesting thread title. I voted to remain and always would as things stand......
by keith1879
Wed Apr 03, 2019 4:06 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 10422
Views: 154898

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

That's the preferred option as the realisation as struck home a no deal is extremely unlikely anyway, so make do with that or remain, its past the point of people wanting certain things it looks like we will end up with something we didn't vote for nor want, hallelujah democracy. People will always...
by keith1879
Sun Mar 31, 2019 10:11 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: There is a lot of dead wood
Replies: 64
Views: 3315

Re: There is a lot of dead wood

Winstonswhite wrote:.....is what is said when stats don’t tell you what you want to hear.

Can you give me an example of something decent he did yesterday?


Chased down a Wolves player in a piece of pressing that led to our second goal.
by keith1879
Sun Mar 31, 2019 12:10 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Bravery, determination, guile and James Tarkowski
Replies: 33
Views: 2504

Re: Bravery, determination, guile and James Tarkowski

I was at yesterdays match and again we were lucky. First goal quick thinking move 2nd goal keeper mistake (he thought it was going out) We played hoofball far too often. Mee and Tarks had a couple of dodgy moments. Adama owned Taylor ( our best player on the day IMHO) but couldn't get the final bal...
by keith1879
Sat Mar 30, 2019 9:14 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Why did Nuno take off Traore
Replies: 63
Views: 3266

Re: Why did Nuno take off Traore

I was strongly reminded of a game against Stockport in the 90s when Tony Hancock was subbed off by them. Everyone was saying how relieved they were ....I was thinking that he had achieved nothing and we might find things getting more difficult.
by keith1879
Tue Mar 26, 2019 3:35 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 10422
Views: 154898

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

'deliberately refusing to understand that the % of the votes is not the issue..' :D :P ..that would be the first vote/ballot/referendum anywhere in the history of the world, where 'the percentage of the votes is not the issue'. I understand perfectly well why those on the losing side don't wish to ...
by keith1879
Tue Mar 26, 2019 3:34 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 10422
Views: 154898

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

OK.. getting there,.. maybe I'm being a bit thick. - just trying to nail things down, so I know where the discussion is at. You say - 'If a defined Leave option wins then that option happens,' Well that is clear enough, LEAVE would have won 2 referendums out of two, nothing else to say. You say - '...
by keith1879
Fri Mar 22, 2019 10:32 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 10422
Views: 154898

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

taio wrote:When did I suggest that you daft ****


In post 5120 (not in so many words ...but I think Turtle's sarcasm was justified)
by keith1879
Fri Mar 22, 2019 3:48 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 10422
Views: 154898

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

Okay, show me how many members are going to vote for the Brexit Party? I'm looking at a march with 30+ people in. Hard to think that you might be exaggerating a bit. I have tried to open my mind to reasoned argument from Leavers but there just isn't any. There isn't any on here, on the bus, in the ...
by keith1879
Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:25 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 10422
Views: 154898

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

:lol: This brexiteer gets extremely angry when Shelagh offers to explain why what he's just said is wrong. He hangs up in a rage in case his bullshit might get exposed to him as bullshit. https://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/shelagh-fogarty/raging-brexiteer-loses-temper-down-phone-fogarty/ Some o...
by keith1879
Tue Mar 19, 2019 4:47 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 10422
Views: 154898

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

Even after blocking Ringo this thread is still horrific.
by keith1879
Mon Mar 18, 2019 8:02 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Climate Change
Replies: 143
Views: 2876

Re: Climate Change

Correct but i dissagree there is little debate left,one side of this argument have the media as a tool to push their view at the same time as surpressing the opposite view its not hard to notice that Sky BBC CH4 go way over the top with weather related news items why is that ? this is just one tiny...
by keith1879
Mon Mar 18, 2019 3:25 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Shooting in Utrecht
Replies: 6
Views: 919

Re: Shooting in Utrecht

ClaretSteve wrote:The millions or the few?


Sadly the few affect the millions.
by keith1879
Mon Mar 18, 2019 10:28 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Shootings at a Mosque in Christchurch, NZ
Replies: 209
Views: 6252

Re: Shootings at a Mosque in Christchurch, NZ

Sad to see how this has degenerated ....although at least we haven't got all the meaningless "thoughts and prayers" posts. On Saturday evening I was on the train back to Stockport via Bolton .....a disastrous journey due to all the weather related problems and at one point (I honestly don'...
by keith1879
Fri Mar 15, 2019 8:20 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Proportional representation..
Replies: 132
Views: 2811

Re: Proportional representation..

Not for me, at least we have someone fighting our geographical corner at the moment, under PR the big cities will dominate even more than the already do. I think there are systems that address this ....so that for example the North West would get MPs in proportion to the way we voted here. In the e...
by keith1879
Fri Mar 15, 2019 4:25 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Proportional representation..
Replies: 132
Views: 2811

Re: Proportional representation..

The argument is that whilst Proportional Representation is certainly more democratic, it will give rise to more divided and hence less efficient forms of government. It is a pragmatic argument. Holding referendums is the most democratic form of government, but as we see it is terribly inefficient. ...
by keith1879
Fri Mar 15, 2019 4:01 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Proportional representation..
Replies: 132
Views: 2811

Re: Proportional representation..

PR would create governments of consensus. I think our current adversarial style of politics turns people off, but the very nature of PR - the fact no party is likely to govern alone - will change the tone of politics. There will still be disagreement, and possibly more extreme views (big tent parti...
by keith1879
Thu Mar 14, 2019 4:53 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 10422
Views: 154898

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

From his point of view - yes. The guidance is probably there to prevent the house wasting time on endless debates about whether litter bins should be black or green or some such nonsense. We are talking about the government of the day trying to deliver Brexit and he had no need at all to create an ...
by keith1879
Thu Mar 14, 2019 4:49 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 10422
Views: 154898

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

Aye, unless the MPs get their act together, then they will be left with the option of "No Deal" or revoking Article 50. I hope it never gets to that. Spot on ....I would always vote remain but the only people who can legitimately reverse the referendum decision are the electorate - NOT pa...
by keith1879
Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:07 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 10422
Views: 154898

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

Clearly you have forgotten the manifesto pledge of both Labour and Tory to respect the referendum result and commit to leaving the SM and CU. You could also add in the personal wishes of remainer MPs to do everything in their power to overturn the will of the public.. Might not fit in with your age...
by keith1879
Wed Mar 13, 2019 5:22 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Anti semetism
Replies: 481
Views: 12479

Re: Anti semetism

Here's the latest incident being investigated corporal jones: https://order-order.com/2019/03/08/labour-mayoral-candidate-defended-naz-shah-ken-livingstones-anti-semistism/ Happy to keep you updated with all things anti-semitic in the Labour party. You're welcome. What a very condescending post. It...
by keith1879
Wed Mar 13, 2019 11:55 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Most Annoying & Lame Phrase Often Heard..
Replies: 110
Views: 2762

Re: Most Annoying & Lame Phrase Often Heard..

"no problem"
by keith1879
Wed Mar 13, 2019 11:16 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 10422
Views: 154898

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

So we’re taking the word of random youtubers over the Electoral Commission now, are we? Nb - I haven’t watched the video you linked. I don’t have time right now. I watched it ....hard going to be honest. It is some bloke who provides no logical sequence of evidence to back up his statement that bot...
by keith1879
Sat Mar 09, 2019 9:57 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: What makes Burnley special?
Replies: 54
Views: 2428

Re: What makes Burnley special?

I watched a sky documentary called Burnley's Champions. It was an interview about the 1959/60 season. It was Jeff Stelling interviewing Alex Elder John Connolly and Jimmy Mcllroy. It must have been filmed around 2010 as both John Connolly and Jimmy Mcllroy are both dead now. John Connolly mentioned...
by keith1879
Thu Mar 07, 2019 9:54 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Camera help
Replies: 12
Views: 438

Re: Camera help

I'm looking to buy a second hand camera on eBay or similar to do a specific task but am unsure what to look for. I want to set the camera up on a tripod ( permanently) and take pictures of various small objects ( from a distance of 1 MTR approx ) and load them up to a website. The image needs to be...
by keith1879
Mon Mar 04, 2019 11:22 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: How soft is the game now?
Replies: 28
Views: 1583

Re: How soft is the game now?

I found it interesting on the TV highlights of the Spurs game where Bardsley kicked Danny Rose on the left leg and he went down clutching his right....or was it the other way round?

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