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by keith1879
Sun Feb 18, 2024 6:50 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Top 3 hopes for next season?
Replies: 76
Views: 3119

Re: Top 3 hopes for next season?

1. A new and better midfield player.
2. A second new and better midfield player
3. A third new and better midfield player

This will fix the attack, the defence and the goalkeeper.

Probably wont change the badge though.
by keith1879
Mon Dec 11, 2023 6:41 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Maxwell under the Silver Hammer
Replies: 44
Views: 7998

Re: Maxwell under the Silver Hammer

Unpopular opinion, but wouldn't interest me in the slightest. Always seems odd to say someone who scored goals like he did at Burnley is a luxury player, but if he wasn't popping up with a screamer, he was doing very little else. When he was scoring the screamers for us, I remember someone at the t...
by keith1879
Tue Jul 04, 2023 3:11 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Loyalty Points change
Replies: 362
Views: 18638

Re: Loyalty Points change

Rick_Muller wrote:
Tue Jul 04, 2023 12:38 pm
That’d work for me
Yes - I feel that any system which creates a closed shop where a certain group of people simply get to every game they want is thoroughly unfair. The new system is every bit as bad as the old one from that point of view.
by keith1879
Tue Jun 13, 2023 4:19 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Wigan Points Deduction
Replies: 135
Views: 12151

Re: Wigan Points Deduction

I suppose one should actually look at specific clubs. In 2021/22 Sheffield Wednesday finished 4th and then lost out in the play-offs. You'll never convinceme that Wigan didn't profit at their expense.
by keith1879
Tue Jun 13, 2023 4:15 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Wigan Points Deduction
Replies: 135
Views: 12151

Re: Wigan Points Deduction

Ridiculous. How has Wigan being relegated rock bottom punished the fans of other clubs. They are turning cartwheels. The owners should be punished, not the fans. Not the club. As for previous seasons the onus of proof that it directly benefitted the club should be on the league. So what if clubs sp...
by keith1879
Wed Jun 07, 2023 7:41 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Lesser-known songs
Replies: 31
Views: 1862

Re: Lesser-known songs

I doubt if many of the lads sporting "Ramones" T shirts know this one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-L_5HedJbw (Bonzo goes to Bitburg)
by keith1879
Wed Jun 07, 2023 7:19 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Wigan Points Deduction
Replies: 135
Views: 12151

Re: Wigan Points Deduction

All I am saying is there must be other, better punishments. Not just for the fans sake but for competition itself. If you are punishing wrong doing by deducting points then you are rewarding all the other clubs in the division by giving them an unfair advantage possibly out of all proportion. We co...
by keith1879
Tue Jun 06, 2023 1:35 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: O/T Universal Basic Income
Replies: 124
Views: 4660

Re: O/T Universal Basic Income

quoonbeatz wrote:
Tue Jun 06, 2023 1:24 pm
An excellent idea in principle but it needs to be properly thought through and managed. You only really need to look at the type of people who are dead against it to know its a positive proposal.
Pretty much my thoughts!
by keith1879
Fri May 19, 2023 7:47 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Where are Clarets fans from outside of Burnley?
Replies: 278
Views: 16431

Re: Where are Clarets fans from outside of Burnley?

Grew up in Castleford near Leeds, lived most of my life in Stockport and now live in Stafford. Home games take all day by public transport and mid-week matches are a nightmare.
by keith1879
Thu May 18, 2023 4:53 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: 1 to 11 who's the first Burnley player to come to mind.
Replies: 48
Views: 2347

Re: 1 to 11 who's the first Burnley player to come to mind.

Halley, Boyle, Watson and 8 others
by keith1879
Sun Apr 02, 2023 12:26 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: 18 unbeaten in the league
Replies: 10
Views: 1739

Re: 18 unbeaten in the league

fatboy47 wrote:
Sun Apr 02, 2023 9:12 am
Social media 😂. You can find City fans on there complaining that they need to improve. There's not a sane person on the planet who still takes social media seriously.
100% agree. Sadly there are plenty of stupid people with votes and powerful people who don't care.
by keith1879
Sun Feb 26, 2023 7:50 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: the fans who were leaving after 89 minutes
Replies: 206
Views: 15356

Re: the fans who were leaving after 89 minutes

Having considered the various arguments I think the simplest thing to do is lock everyone in until the match has finished. Then allow them out after all the players have been applauded off, via the turnstiles, with juniors and accompanying parents first… then by points so that everyone with 6000+ p...
by keith1879
Fri Feb 10, 2023 11:52 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: 2022/23: Blackpool v Burnley – Ticket Information
Replies: 389
Views: 16703

Re: 2022/23: Blackpool v Burnley – Ticket Information

An online queue works for every other type of event, many events way bigger than Burnley away games. There's no need to differentiate. We're all supporters. Yes I agree with this. I can't think of a fairer system than one where everbody has an equal chance of getting a ticket for a particular game....
by keith1879
Thu Feb 09, 2023 11:25 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Cricket Field Stand Tonight
Replies: 89
Views: 6211

Re: Cricket Field Stand Tonight

Rowls wrote:
Wed Feb 08, 2023 2:54 pm
It's all fun and games fidel.

But I do note one thing: There aren't many (if any at all) who are openly prepared to support BLM anymore.

The hysteria is over. The truth has got out.
I have juist taken the knee in response to that post !!
by keith1879
Tue Feb 07, 2023 11:31 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Away Ticket Allocation. - Trying to be logical.
Replies: 29
Views: 1609

Re: Away Ticket Allocation. - Trying to be logical.

Is your objection to people letting others use their clarets number to get tickets for games that they otherwise wouldn't qualify for? There's only one way to stop it, ID to be used upon entry to the ground to ensure the name matches. People don't like that idea though, but it's about the only way ...
by keith1879
Tue Feb 07, 2023 11:26 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: 2022/23: Blackpool v Burnley – Ticket Information
Replies: 389
Views: 16703

Re: 2022/23: Blackpool v Burnley – Ticket Information

We should implement a system whereby you get awarded 100 loyalty points per game multiplied by a factor of how many miles you live away from the venue. So for example, if you live 82 miles from the venue you get awarded 100 loyalty points multiplied by 0.82 - and therefore are awarded 82 loyalty po...
by keith1879
Tue Feb 07, 2023 11:22 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: 2022/23: Blackpool v Burnley – Ticket Information
Replies: 389
Views: 16703

Re: 2022/23: Blackpool v Burnley – Ticket Information

So the issue is that the current system prevents people taking kids to away games, thus depriving the club of the lifeblood of the next generation of fans, whilst simultaneously allowing lots of kids who couldn't possibly have 6000 points to go to away games because they use other people's tickets?...
by keith1879
Tue Feb 07, 2023 11:20 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: 2022/23: Blackpool v Burnley – Ticket Information
Replies: 389
Views: 16703

Re: 2022/23: Blackpool v Burnley – Ticket Information

I sit on the James Hargreaves upper...and near me are a couple of old boys. One of them first saw a game in 1947 and the other in 1950. They have had season tickets every year in that stand and as far as I know have been regular attenders at home for 50 years or more. Not sure about their Away histo...
by keith1879
Tue Feb 07, 2023 11:04 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: 2022/23: Blackpool v Burnley – Ticket Information
Replies: 389
Views: 16703

Re: 2022/23: Blackpool v Burnley – Ticket Information

In general, I do agree with where you're coming from. The whole better class of fan argument does bug me. But I do think there has to be a way of looking after ST holders who travel to 80%+ of away games. I think with a simple solution like you propose, with a number being reserved for the die-hard...
by keith1879
Tue Feb 07, 2023 11:01 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: 2022/23: Blackpool v Burnley – Ticket Information
Replies: 389
Views: 16703

Re: 2022/23: Blackpool v Burnley – Ticket Information

quoonbeatz wrote:
Tue Feb 07, 2023 10:36 am
Why should there be differentiation?
It's just practicality. You're trying to allocate (say) 2000 tickets to maybe 6000 people who want them. You want some system that has smallish groups so that you can allocate by some sort of objective criteria. Otherwise it's just an on-line queue.
by keith1879
Tue Feb 07, 2023 10:56 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Away Ticket Allocation. - Trying to be logical.
Replies: 29
Views: 1609

Re: Away Ticket Allocation. - Trying to be logical.

Surely the obvious problem is the use of the points rather than how they are allocated. How about nominating certain games as ones where points cannot be transferred? Another option might be to introduce a rotation system...if you go to one high-value game then you are at the back of the queue for t...
by keith1879
Tue Feb 07, 2023 10:48 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Away Ticket Allocation. - Trying to be logical.
Replies: 29
Views: 1609

Away Ticket Allocation. - Trying to be logical.

I'll try and keep this brief. Firstly - a few basic facts. I think the points system started in 2005 - happy to be corrected. At 350 points per season ticket, you would have had to buy 18 season tickets to get to 6000 without any away games. There may have been 1 season when more than 350 were given...
by keith1879
Tue Feb 07, 2023 10:21 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: 2022/23: Blackpool v Burnley – Ticket Information
Replies: 389
Views: 16703

Re: 2022/23: Blackpool v Burnley – Ticket Information

Still yet to see any decent argument against or any better idea than going back to priority for current ST holders, then general sale. - fans who have committed to that season get an equal chance to buy any away ticket - no more complaints that kids will never catch up - no more groups having to wa...
by keith1879
Tue Feb 07, 2023 10:17 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: 2022/23: Blackpool v Burnley – Ticket Information
Replies: 389
Views: 16703

Re: 2022/23: Blackpool v Burnley – Ticket Information

Granny WeatherWax wrote:
Mon Feb 06, 2023 8:31 pm
There was one season, can’t remember which, where we got a shed load of points for renewing.

But those online are obviously talking ********
I think your first paragraph (!!) is correct....it explains why I have slightly more points than my purchase history seems to suggest.
by keith1879
Mon Feb 06, 2023 8:18 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: 2022/23: Blackpool v Burnley – Ticket Information
Replies: 389
Views: 16703

Re: 2022/23: Blackpool v Burnley – Ticket Information

AGENT_CLARET wrote:
Mon Feb 06, 2023 7:44 pm
Can't wait for it to rise to 10k and all those above 6k but under 10k start crying when the shoe is on the other foot
Speaking as someone with 8000 I expect to shrug my shoulders and accept that just occasionally I can't have every single thing that I want handed to me on a plate.
by keith1879
Mon Feb 06, 2023 8:16 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: 2022/23: Blackpool v Burnley – Ticket Information
Replies: 389
Views: 16703

Re: 2022/23: Blackpool v Burnley – Ticket Information

Just can’t see how it’s fair that people who never / rarely go away get the same priority as a season ticket holders who goes to most away games, for example. I appreciate that your "5 year rolling loyalty points" system is trying to get round a specific problem....but a by-product of this system i...
by keith1879
Sat Jan 28, 2023 5:15 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Musings
Replies: 101
Views: 6157

Re: Musings

I do the same while saying ," if you can't be arsed coming into this lane, then I can't be arsed going all the way out there to simply come back to where I started from. Nob". Which puts both you and Nonaynever near the of my hate list..... Surely the worst of the lot are people who sit in the righ...
by keith1879
Sat Jan 28, 2023 3:21 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Sean Dyche's greatest moments
Replies: 61
Views: 3428

Re: Sean Dyche's greatest moments

The proudest man in Proudsville with Burnley in the top 4. I started following Burnley when they were in the 4th division, not 4th place in the top division. This season under Kompany would not have been possible without Dyche. For giving the club a status and level of expectation. For pushing for ...
by keith1879
Wed Jan 25, 2023 1:51 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: 2022/23: Luton Town v Burnley – Ticket Information
Replies: 170
Views: 7423

Re: 2022/23: Luton Town v Burnley – Ticket Information

In the 99/00 season I’m sure some games required away ticket stubs/tickets to purchase in a priority order unless I’ve completely made that up. I vaguely remember my dad used to go down with them to prove we had enough as it was way before an online system etc or it may have just been for the Scunt...
by keith1879
Wed Jan 25, 2023 1:37 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: 2022/23: Luton Town v Burnley – Ticket Information
Replies: 170
Views: 7423

Re: 2022/23: Luton Town v Burnley – Ticket Information

When did the points system start I've checked my purchase history and the earliest entry is the 2004/2005 season ticket. That sounds about right - we were in dire financial straits and the club were keen to sell season tickets so loyalty points were a bit of added value. Memory is a bit weak on thi...
by keith1879
Wed Jan 25, 2023 1:21 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: The Big Match - Luton Town v Burnley 1974/75
Replies: 13
Views: 1035

Re: The Big Match - Luton Town v Burnley 1974/75

It was the seventies when I started supporting the Clarets It’s such a shame there is so little TV coverage thanks to. On Lord refusing cameras at Turf Moor. I met Colin Waldron once and he is gutted his winning goal away at Deepdale which won us the Championship was not filmed. Thanks for sharing ...
by keith1879
Mon Jan 23, 2023 10:41 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: 2022/23: Luton Town v Burnley – Ticket Information
Replies: 170
Views: 7423

Re: 2022/23: Luton Town v Burnley – Ticket Information

It's virtually impossible to stop though. Unless you make people collect tickets on the day like the FA do with England away games, which isn't really realistic. The only thing I can think of is to make people buy in person ....which sort of defeats the whole issue. There is some sort of family and...
by keith1879
Mon Jan 23, 2023 10:35 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: 2022/23: Luton Town v Burnley – Ticket Information
Replies: 170
Views: 7423

Re: 2022/23: Luton Town v Burnley – Ticket Information

Fair enough, but season ticket holders who go away regularly deserve to be higher up than season ticket holders who never go away. Agreed ... but the present system provides exactly that advantage - you get points for season tickets AND points for away tickets. The only real issue I have (and it ha...
by keith1879
Mon Jan 23, 2023 10:14 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: 2022/23: Luton Town v Burnley – Ticket Information
Replies: 170
Views: 7423

Re: 2022/23: Luton Town v Burnley – Ticket Information

Think the point is old blokes who haven't been away for years will use their Clarets numbers for other people, who potentially don't even go on the Turf regularly. A rolling points system would stop this happening and reward people who go away more often. If the issue is the transfer of points (and...
by keith1879
Mon Jan 23, 2023 9:56 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: 2022/23: Luton Town v Burnley – Ticket Information
Replies: 170
Views: 7423

Re: 2022/23: Luton Town v Burnley – Ticket Information

AGENT_CLARET wrote:
Mon Jan 23, 2023 11:01 am
also there should be a way of not passing them on like for example a grandad buying little 14 year old Johnny one from his 6k points
Completely agree on this one by the way.
by keith1879
Mon Jan 23, 2023 9:45 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: 2022/23: Luton Town v Burnley – Ticket Information
Replies: 170
Views: 7423

Re: 2022/23: Luton Town v Burnley – Ticket Information

They need to scrap the points system and have a loyalty system, they should go back over a set few sessons and reward the loyalty fans that have a history of buying away tickets, if this come in I'd miss out even more because of work I've not been to that many over the past 4 season's probably only...
by keith1879
Thu Jan 19, 2023 1:27 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Spurs 1 Burnley 4 - forty years ago today
Replies: 82
Views: 3254

Re: Spurs 1 Burnley 4 - forty years ago today

Got back to Stockport on the sleeper (in the seats) with some of the usual suspects on the train. Possibly the best away trip ever until Ewood in 2014. I shudder to remember what came over the following decade....
by keith1879
Thu Jan 19, 2023 12:00 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Flu & covid jabs
Replies: 237
Views: 8906

Re: Flu & covid jabs

Will you please stop calling people silly who haven't had the vaccines. It's their choice. This dividing people has to stop. You don't see any unvaccinated people calling the unfortunate vaccinated ones names, who died or have serious injury. I'm inclined to agrtee with the sentiment here. To be fa...
by keith1879
Wed Jan 18, 2023 1:54 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Flu & covid jabs
Replies: 237
Views: 8906

Re: Flu & covid jabs

Without reading the whole 5 pages so far: I have never had a flu jab in my life. Last time i had flu was December 1999, just in time for the millennium. And as far as i can remember it is the only time i have had flu in 54 years. I had the first 2 Covid jabs and was more ill from the first than i w...
by keith1879
Wed Jan 18, 2023 1:27 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Flu & covid jabs
Replies: 237
Views: 8906

Re: Flu & covid jabs

claretcarrot93 wrote:
Wed Jan 18, 2023 12:53 pm
https://twitter.com/healthbyjames/statu ... 4076235782

Plenty of other *experts* on Tv saying the same at the time
I love the way that the tweet misses out the key word "almost" from what he is saying.....
by keith1879
Wed Jan 18, 2023 1:25 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Flu & covid jabs
Replies: 237
Views: 8906

Re: Flu & covid jabs

Lancasterclaret wrote:
Wed Jan 18, 2023 1:07 pm
Thing is, if we did have the Black Death, you'd have exactly the same f**knuggets saying stuff like "what about my freedoms"?
The black death was definitely a fake put together by a global cat conspiracy to demonize rats.
by keith1879
Wed Jan 18, 2023 12:49 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Flu & covid jabs
Replies: 237
Views: 8906

Re: Flu & covid jabs

Biden: "This is a pandemic of the unvaccinated," Biden said in the full interview. "The unvaccinated. Not the vaccinated, the unvaccinated. That’s the problem. Everybody talks about freedom and not to have a shot or have a test. Well guess what? How about patriotism? How about making sure that you’...
by keith1879
Wed Jan 18, 2023 12:44 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Flu & covid jabs
Replies: 237
Views: 8906

Re: Flu & covid jabs

Bordeauxclaret wrote:
Tue Jan 17, 2023 9:26 pm
That’s the one. The replies are brilliant.
Oh dear. (And that's putting it mildly).
by keith1879
Tue Jan 17, 2023 5:22 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Flu & covid jabs
Replies: 237
Views: 8906

Re: Flu & covid jabs

Key data not being presented by Moderna. Lack of transparency. I'm sorry but this seems to me to be false equivalence. My beef is that people are being influenced to decline a vaccine at all by on-line "influencers" (yeuch) and as such many people are dying or falling seriously ill. Yes there is so...
by keith1879
Tue Jan 17, 2023 5:16 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Flu & covid jabs
Replies: 237
Views: 8906

Re: Flu & covid jabs

Not sure if I'm reading this correctly but what it seems to be saying is that a revised vaccine to be given as a booster shot was more effective as a booster than the alternative. That is to say that it was better at reducing the probability of covid infection, whilst I can't see any suggestion tha...
by keith1879
Tue Jan 17, 2023 5:13 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Flu & covid jabs
Replies: 237
Views: 8906

Re: Flu & covid jabs

There’s obviously some very extreme views on the ‘anti vax’ side, which probably tip the scales that way. But if we are looking at things objectively, stories like this one (CNN) don’t paint ‘the other side’ (in this case government scientists and Moderna) in good light either: https://www.cnn.com/...
by keith1879
Tue Jan 17, 2023 4:17 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Flu & covid jabs
Replies: 237
Views: 8906

Re: Flu & covid jabs

Hi Keith, I was trying (in my own clumsy way) to applaud your research on some of these anti-vax theories as the people who tend to believe them without question are the same people who say ‘I have my own mind, I question everything’. Thanks mate. Hopefully between us we have brought the point even...
by keith1879
Tue Jan 17, 2023 4:15 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Flu & covid jabs
Replies: 237
Views: 8906

Re: Flu & covid jabs

Considering how far the goalposts have been shifted to the effectiveness of the COVID vaccine from now to when it first come out, clearly its only right questions can be asked. People were told you could not catch and spread it if you are vaccinated which turned out to be a lie. There are plenty of...
by keith1879
Tue Jan 17, 2023 3:56 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Flu & covid jabs
Replies: 237
Views: 8906

Re: Flu & covid jabs

Remember, question everything……. except an internet ‘doctor’ who tells you vaccines are bad! Two points here. 1. he isn't a medical doctor (he does have a PhD so he is entitled to use the title "Doctor") 2. I questioned his statements because (not being an expert in these fields) I was worried that...
by keith1879
Tue Jan 17, 2023 2:13 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Flu & covid jabs
Replies: 237
Views: 8906

Re: Flu & covid jabs

Apologies for resuscitating an old thread. I have recently been doing a lot of research into the claims of Dr John Campbell. (He isn't a medical doctor by the way). I have found various sources in terms of fact-checking sites and also a youtube channel called Back to the Science (this is presented b...