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by Royboyclaret
Mon Apr 29, 2024 5:06 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Forest points deduction appeal
Replies: 60
Views: 5300

Re: Forest points deduction appeal

Goody1975 wrote:
Mon Apr 29, 2024 5:00 pm
Too late to edit but FSR should be PSR in my post
No worries, Goody......and little doubt that aggi will accept the finality of CP's evidence.
by Royboyclaret
Mon Apr 29, 2024 4:59 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Forest points deduction appeal
Replies: 60
Views: 5300

Re: Forest points deduction appeal

I understand you are putting the counter argument used by Forest rather than your own feelings on the matter. The facts are that Forest were fully aware of the rules of FSR when they joined the Premier League at the start of 2022/23. Just because they thought this meant that newly promoted sides we...
by Royboyclaret
Mon Apr 29, 2024 4:21 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Forest points deduction appeal
Replies: 60
Views: 5300

Re: Forest points deduction appeal

I'm not saying I agree with Forest's stance, just pointing out the facts. I am of the view that all teams should be using the same year-end for these calculations though. I'm quite surprised that Forest didn't change their y/e date to fix this themselves. Come on, aggi....the very reason Forest did...
by Royboyclaret
Mon Apr 29, 2024 4:06 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Beehole’s Monday Night Mini Scrapbook Quiz - 29th April 2024
Replies: 4
Views: 75

Re: Beehole’s Monday Night Mini Scrapbook Quiz - 29th April 2024

Thank you Royboy and yes I’m open to suggestions. I’ll try to fathom the technology to post a few photo questions in future weeks. Maybe an end of season special would be good. I have plenty of archive material in my scrapbook.😂🤓 Sure you have, beehole. Let's bring it much nearer than "end of seaso...
by Royboyclaret
Mon Apr 29, 2024 3:47 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Beehole’s Monday Night Mini Scrapbook Quiz - 29th April 2024
Replies: 4
Views: 75

Re: Beehole’s Monday Night Mini Scrapbook Quiz - 29th April 2024

Is it possible to include a picture quiz round, at some point, beehole ??

The references to the likes George Beel, Bob Kelly & Bert Freeman from 120 years ago this afternoon on the messageboard make it so important that we remember the great history of our Club.
by Royboyclaret
Mon Apr 29, 2024 3:21 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Forest points deduction appeal
Replies: 60
Views: 5300

Re: Forest points deduction appeal

Quite simple....Any club that set out to defy the rules, should be punished, and punished accordingly.

If this turns out to our benefit, then all the sweeter.
by Royboyclaret
Mon Apr 29, 2024 3:15 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Beehole’s Monday Night Mini Scrapbook Quiz - 29th April 2024
Replies: 4
Views: 75

Re: Beehole’s Monday Night Mini Scrapbook Quiz - 29th April 2024

Superb addition to the forum, beeholeclaret.

From a personal point of view, I much prefer the second option.
by Royboyclaret
Mon Apr 29, 2024 3:06 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Forest points deduction appeal
Replies: 60
Views: 5300

Re: Forest points deduction appeal

the flip to that argument is that Forest freely admitted that they had budgeted to come 12th in the first year in the Premier League in what seems like forever. It is apparent that they deliberately set out to defy the rules and effectively try and get them changed via legal means rather than apply...
by Royboyclaret
Mon Apr 29, 2024 2:48 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Claret One-Cap Wonders 2000-2024
Replies: 28
Views: 442

Re: Claret One-Cap Wonders 2000-2024

Apologies for deflecting from the thread, but we've had so many special goalscorers over the 142 years in terms of goals to game ratio......Louis Page (1.64), George Beel (1.80), Ray Pointer (2.03), Andy Lochhead (2.08)........ ........But one player stands head and shoulders above the rest, that's ...
by Royboyclaret
Mon Apr 29, 2024 2:31 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Claret One-Cap Wonders 2000-2024
Replies: 28
Views: 442

Re: Claret One-Cap Wonders 2000-2024

Hard to believe that Louis Page scored 6 in a game for us against Birmingham.

Dad reminisced about that until the day he died.
by Royboyclaret
Mon Apr 29, 2024 2:26 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Claret One-Cap Wonders 2000-2024
Replies: 28
Views: 442

Re: Claret One-Cap Wonders 2000-2024

ClaretTony wrote:
Mon Apr 29, 2024 2:22 pm
Easily looked up

https://www.uptheclarets.com/players/hat-trick-heroes
Much prefer it from the memory bank, was '65/'66 ??

That 5 against Chelsea were all special "Andy" goals.
by Royboyclaret
Mon Apr 29, 2024 2:20 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Claret One-Cap Wonders 2000-2024
Replies: 28
Views: 442

Re: Claret One-Cap Wonders 2000-2024

claptrappers_union wrote:
Mon Apr 29, 2024 2:04 pm
Is it the son of a certain striker who scored 5 goals in one game for us?
So many special memories on this thread.......But only player has ever scored 5 goals twice for us ??
by Royboyclaret
Tue Apr 23, 2024 5:14 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: On this day
Replies: 138
Views: 12093

Re: On this day

Just to complete the above Liverpool won the 1st division championship in 1966 but on this date they lost 2-0 at a very bright but also very muddy Turf Moor. One of the best performances I've witnessed over many years. Same date in the late 70's Billy Ingham scored his wonder goal v Chelsea to earn...
by Royboyclaret
Mon Apr 22, 2024 4:42 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Kompany to Brighton?
Replies: 123
Views: 9463

Re: Kompany to Brighton?

Don't know that the latter's the case. We were linked with Quillindschy Hartman last June-July and I was elated at that as a prospect, felt he'd be the better call than Maatsen, but for whatever reason nothing came of the rumour. But it makes me think we did at least have eyes on other players. Qui...
by Royboyclaret
Mon Apr 22, 2024 12:41 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: REPORT: Burnley win big at Bramall Lane
Replies: 15
Views: 1562

Re: REPORT: Burnley win big at Bramall Lane

sjb wrote:
Mon Apr 22, 2024 12:12 pm
Great performance but Doug's goal certainly wasn't wonderful. Free kick which took a massive deflection and completely wrong footed the keeper.
Not from where I was stood, looked a perfectly reasonable strike from me.
by Royboyclaret
Mon Apr 22, 2024 12:15 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Beehole's Monday Night Mini Scrapbook Quiz - CANCELLED
Replies: 10
Views: 453

Re: Beehole's Monday Night Mini Scrapbook Quiz - CANCELLED

FCBurnley wrote:
Mon Apr 22, 2024 12:09 pm
? Latcham
Spot on with Latcham, FC Burnley, brilliant memories even from the USA.
by Royboyclaret
Mon Apr 22, 2024 11:52 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Beehole's Monday Night Mini Scrapbook Quiz - CANCELLED
Replies: 10
Views: 453

Re: Beehole's Monday Night Mini Scrapbook Quiz - CANCELLED

Hi guys I've got this week's quiz typed up and ready but unfortunately I'm unable to host tonight due to unforeseen circumstances. Hopefully I can get things back on track next Monday night. Apologies to those that were looking forward to our regular Monday mad scramble for points. :lol: Sorry to h...
by Royboyclaret
Mon Apr 22, 2024 11:35 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: REPORT: Burnley win big at Bramall Lane
Replies: 15
Views: 1562

Re: REPORT: Burnley win big at Bramall Lane

Of all the performances at Bramall Lane over the years the '73/'74 opening day ranksed as the very best.

Wonderful goals from Doug Collins and Martin Dobson were just an appetiser on what was to become a very special season,
by Royboyclaret
Sun Apr 21, 2024 10:36 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: On this day
Replies: 138
Views: 12093

Re: On this day

Think the goal that Taffy scored was his first since a stunning strike at Hillsboro ba k in October when we won 0-1 in front of MOTD cameras. Day before had seen us win 0-2 at Oxford. They had another home game on the 21st v Carlisle whose team bus was outside the ground after our game which they'd...
by Royboyclaret
Sun Apr 21, 2024 10:27 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: On this day
Replies: 138
Views: 12093

Re: On this day

Champions elect, of course.
by Royboyclaret
Sun Apr 21, 2024 9:51 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: On this day
Replies: 138
Views: 12093

Re: On this day

21/4/73.... Burnley 3 Brighton 0.

Most appropriate that today's featured game includes a classy performance and stunning goal from a certain Leighton James.... RIP Taffy.

The James goal was in the first-half followed by further goals in the second-half from Casper and Dobson.
by Royboyclaret
Sat Apr 20, 2024 11:11 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Taffy
Replies: 155
Views: 7287

Re: Taffy

The club have a week now to make a fitting tribute to Super Taff. The times like these video could incorporate lots of Taff footage and tributes,young fans love singing we are the Longside Burnley you can't think of Leighton now without remembering him tearing down the wing in front of the Longside...
by Royboyclaret
Sat Apr 20, 2024 10:48 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Taffy
Replies: 155
Views: 7287

Re: Taffy

Sad news, indeed.

One of the very finest to ever pull on the famous Claret shirt.

RIP, Leighton.
by Royboyclaret
Thu Apr 18, 2024 10:36 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: On this day
Replies: 138
Views: 12093

Re: On this day

10 years ago today.... 18/4/14....Blackpool 0 Burnley 1. Michael Kightly with the second half winner for yet another victory in that memorable 2013/14 season. It seemed like half of Burnley had made it over to Blackpool that day as we continued on that relentless march back to the Premier League. Ju...
by Royboyclaret
Fri Apr 12, 2024 10:30 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: On this day
Replies: 138
Views: 12093

Re: On this day

12/4/86 Burnley 1 Cambridge Utd 1.

An attendance of just 2,796 for this Division Four fixture with Tommy Cavanagh by now in charge.

Neil Grewcock with our goal, not the last important goal Neil would score for us on the Turf.
by Royboyclaret
Wed Apr 10, 2024 4:40 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: On this day
Replies: 138
Views: 12093

Re: On this day

50 years ago today..... 10/4/74.....Newcastle Utd 1 Burnley 2. Goals from Dobo and Geoff Nulty gave us a fairly comfortable win at St.James Park. It came just eleven days after our defeat to them in the FA Cup semi-final at Sheffield and those two heartbreaking goals from MacDonald. But it didn't en...
by Royboyclaret
Mon Apr 08, 2024 4:03 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Everton - 2 more points deducted.
Replies: 72
Views: 4600

Re: Everton - 2 more points deducted.

Chester Perry references the "public lies about taking the Premier League warnings seriously" and this became abundantly clear when their Operating Loss for the last financial year was published at £89m. Never a chance that they would be within the PSR threshold of £105m. But it gets worse......I've...
by Royboyclaret
Sun Apr 07, 2024 4:19 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: REPORT: Clarets suffer a damaging defeat at Everton
Replies: 29
Views: 2172

Re: REPORT: Clarets suffer a damaging defeat at Everton

ClaretTony wrote:
Sun Apr 07, 2024 3:49 pm
Absolutely spot on but there have been so many performances like that this season.
At least the memory is still there of that final Jimmy Mac goal for us in 1962.
by Royboyclaret
Sat Apr 06, 2024 1:36 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Chelsea and diving ...
Replies: 23
Views: 1694

Re: Chelsea and diving ...

ecc wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2024 12:36 pm
"I'm old enough to remember when it was the cheating foreigners as Italians and Spanish perfected the art. Now we, the British, are just as bad as everyone else."

Francesco Leelo.

Michele Channone
Omar Sivori.

Jose Altafini.

Both from the "Battle of Naples" in 1967.
by Royboyclaret
Sat Apr 06, 2024 11:19 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: On this day
Replies: 138
Views: 12093

Re: On this day

Fretters wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2024 11:10 am
2022 - BURNLEY 3 - 2 EVERTON
Collins, Rodriguez and Cornet.......Same again today, please Jay.
by Royboyclaret
Sat Apr 06, 2024 10:34 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: PREVIEW: Next stop – Goodison Park and Everton
Replies: 2
Views: 441

Re: PREVIEW: Next stop – Goodison Park and Everton

That partly obscured Everton programme from the 1954/55 season at the top of the preview holds special memories for me........It was, I think, the very first time I'd seen Jimmy Mac play in a Burnley shirt away from Turf Moor. Dad had said before the game to "take note of our player in the No.8 shir...
by Royboyclaret
Fri Apr 05, 2024 2:34 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: On this day
Replies: 138
Views: 12093

Re: On this day

Shappie wrote:
Thu Apr 04, 2024 9:10 pm
4th April 1981

Division 3

Burnley 0-0 Swindon Town

Attendance 4726
And 8th in Div.3 after this game, which is where we finished the season.
by Royboyclaret
Tue Apr 02, 2024 1:34 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley FC Accounts 2022/23
Replies: 268
Views: 12660

Re: Burnley FC Accounts 2022/23

Goliath wrote:
Tue Apr 02, 2024 1:16 pm
But also very lucky that we had so many out of contract players on big wages in a sense. That's what can catch clubs out
Look at the bigger picture, my friend.

So fortunate that Alan Pace is aligned with the very immediate future of Burnley Football Club.....

.......
by Royboyclaret
Tue Apr 02, 2024 1:08 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley FC Accounts 2022/23
Replies: 268
Views: 12660

Re: Burnley FC Accounts 2022/23

Not sure about that, won't it mainly include the loss of wages of Pope, Tarkowski, Cornet, Mee and Mcneil. They didn't really have much choice but to get rid of them, they were out of contract or had a release clause in Cornets case and didn't want to stay anyway Still remains a sensible approach a...
by Royboyclaret
Tue Apr 02, 2024 12:55 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley FC Accounts 2022/23
Replies: 268
Views: 12660

Re: Burnley FC Accounts 2022/23

Really does show the drop in revenues between champ and prem. nearly 70m drop. Although we have prem money in the next accounts we have a lot of money on players brought in which makes the likelihood of more player sales in the summer more likely especially if we go down Revenue is important, obvio...
by Royboyclaret
Tue Apr 02, 2024 12:35 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley FC Accounts 2022/23
Replies: 268
Views: 12660

Re: Burnley FC Accounts 2022/23

helmclaret wrote:
Tue Apr 02, 2024 12:30 pm
‘Material uncertainty’ with regards to Going Concern would suggest otherwise.
Everton are literally on their financial knees.
by Royboyclaret
Tue Apr 02, 2024 12:20 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley FC Accounts 2022/23
Replies: 268
Views: 12660

Re: Burnley FC Accounts 2022/23

As anticipated a small Operating Loss for the financial year, but with the Profit from the previous year absolutely no problems whatsoever with PSR over the three year rolling period.
Normally Chester Perry would be all over this on the MMT thread.
Everton take note of how to run a football club.
by Royboyclaret
Sat Mar 30, 2024 12:18 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: what is YOUR favourite era watching the Clarets ?
Replies: 72
Views: 3383

Re: what is YOUR favourite era watching the Clarets ?

66 /67 season for me Blacklaw Angus elder O’Neil Miller Todd Morgan Lochead Irvine Harris Coates. My first season ticket. Some great European games. Some great European games, indeed. In '66/'67.....In the Fairs Cup we had Stuttgart, Lausanne, Napoli & Eintracht Frankfurt, following European Cup ga...
by Royboyclaret
Wed Mar 27, 2024 7:54 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: International matches with most Burnley links
Replies: 18
Views: 2020

Re: International matches with most Burnley links

Ian Wright( Crystal Palace) Steven Trevor(Glasgow Rangers). Their typo not mine. As you say not in match day squad but 6 in an England squad will take some beating. 5 actual Burnley players in the original England squad for the World Cup in 1962...... ......John Angus, Brian Miller, Jimmy Adamson, ...
by Royboyclaret
Wed Mar 27, 2024 5:02 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: International matches with most Burnley links
Replies: 18
Views: 2020

Re: International matches with most Burnley links

Interesting that one particular player appears in both the query and the answer.
by Royboyclaret
Wed Mar 27, 2024 4:50 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: International matches with most Burnley links
Replies: 18
Views: 2020

Re: International matches with most Burnley links

Where's Dan the man?......Hope he appreciates the time and effort taken to answer his question?
by Royboyclaret
Wed Mar 27, 2024 11:01 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: International matches with most Burnley links
Replies: 18
Views: 2020

Re: International matches with most Burnley links

Nothing from back in the day either, certainly in terms of five players. Some notable games included N.Ireland v England (World Cup winners) late in 1966......The Ireland team included Alex Elder (captain), Sammy Todd and Willie Irvine. An Under 23 international in 1975 between England and Wales in...
by Royboyclaret
Wed Mar 27, 2024 10:29 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: International matches with most Burnley links
Replies: 18
Views: 2020

Re: International matches with most Burnley links

4.657845 seconds needed to calculate and process the answer. I’ll let others play along… Nothing from back in the day either, certainly in terms of five players. Some notable games included N.Ireland v England (World Cup winners) late in 1966......The Ireland team included Alex Elder (captain), Sam...
by Royboyclaret
Tue Mar 26, 2024 3:10 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Chesterfield back in the league
Replies: 46
Views: 3542

Re: Chesterfield back in the league

An early recollection of a game against Chesterfield was in the 3rd Round FA Cup when we won 7-0.

Followed by a 9-0 win in the 4th Round......Ian Lawson scored 7 of those 16 goals, I think.
by Royboyclaret
Mon Mar 25, 2024 10:11 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Padiham FC
Replies: 153
Views: 14070

Re: Padiham FC

How would promotion ruin the club? What is the point of a club if they just exist and nothing more? Don't see any reason why they couldn't operate again, at least at a slightly higher level. Their current onfield performances deserve nothing less. Seems a lifetime ago they were members of the Lanca...
by Royboyclaret
Sat Mar 23, 2024 11:19 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley away - 1970's quiz question
Replies: 21
Views: 1206

Re: Burnley away - 1970's quiz question

Royboyclaret wrote:
Sat Mar 23, 2024 11:11 am
So, from left to right on the photo.....Newton, Ingham, Fletcher, Noble, Stevenson, Smith, Flynn, Rodaway, Thomson & Brennan......ten Burnley players in all.
Apols.....replace Thomson with Robinson.
by Royboyclaret
Sat Mar 23, 2024 11:11 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley away - 1970's quiz question
Replies: 21
Views: 1206

Re: Burnley away - 1970's quiz question

So, from left to right on the photo.....Newton, Ingham, Fletcher, Noble, Stevenson, Smith, Flynn, Rodaway, Thomson & Brennan......ten Burnley players in all.
by Royboyclaret
Sat Mar 23, 2024 11:01 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley away - 1970's quiz question
Replies: 21
Views: 1206

Re: Burnley away - 1970's quiz question

This would be the day after we won at Blackburn with a goal from Terry Cochrane? Thought that was '78. Third of a busy Easter schedule. By coincidence we drew 1-1 at Blackpool over the Easter period in both '76/'77 and '77/'78 with Malcolm Smith scoring on both occasions. However, in '77/'78 Derek ...
by Royboyclaret
Sat Mar 23, 2024 10:32 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley away - 1970's quiz question
Replies: 21
Views: 1206

Re: Burnley away - 1970's quiz question

Tricky Trevor wrote:
Sat Mar 23, 2024 9:55 am
9-4-77. 1-1. Smith 32mins
1 Stevenson
2 Newton
7Ingham
9Fletcher, behind their 9.
4 Noble
8 Smith
10 Flynn, behind Smith.
6 Rodaway, jumping for header, and obscuring 5 Robinson
3 Brennan, far right.
Missing from photo:
11Morley
Sub Pashley
Pash came on later for Fletcher.
by Royboyclaret
Fri Mar 22, 2024 3:05 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: On this day
Replies: 138
Views: 12093

Re: On this day

Also from 22/3/1947, just a mere 77 years ago. Burnley 2 Plymouth Argyle 1. Scorers Jackie Chew and the legendary Harry Potts. First season back for league football after WW2 and we ended the season 2nd in Division 2 (promoted) and beaten finalists in the FA Cup Final at Wembley. We would spend the ...