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by Chester Perry
Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:32 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Match Day Thread: Fulham vs Burnley
Replies: 78
Views: 1644

Re: Match Day Thread: Fulham vs Burnley

who was the last outfield player to wear gloves at Dyche's Burnley - Vydra breaking the norm there - hope it helps his scoring touch
by Chester Perry
Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:06 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Wigan
Replies: 261
Views: 18645

Re: Wigan

to emphasise my point. they have devalued the club so much that at some point (if this carries on their fees are going to exceed the price they are looking to sell the club for, they could theoretically become the clubs biggest creditors

https://twitter.com/KieranMaguire/statu ... 7864855552
by Chester Perry
Sun Jan 24, 2021 12:27 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Times article this morning
Replies: 35
Views: 1923

Re: Times article this morning

Something very similar in the Telegraph that I posted last night on the MMT thread Sam Wallace in The Telegraph on the threat the European Super League posed to the Premier League and how upsets like our result at Anfield are what makes the Premier League so absorbing to audiences around the world -...
by Chester Perry
Sun Jan 24, 2021 1:05 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 6150
Views: 409748

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Matt Slater is talking about this on today's Sports Business Podcast from the Athletic https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy5zaW1wbGVjYXN0LmNvbS9zR2FhOVhVag/episode/MDVlYWI3NWUtNWI3MC0xMWViLWI5OGYtMGJjNGYyMzkzOGE4?sa=X&ved=0CAQQ8qgGahgKEwjYlZ-nnK3uAhUAAAAAHQAAAAAQ6wQ&hl=en-GB Gameofth...
by Chester Perry
Sun Jan 24, 2021 12:53 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 6150
Views: 409748

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Sam Wallace in The Telegraph on the threat the European Super League posed to the Premier League and how upsets like our result at Anfield are what makes the Premier League so absorbing to audiences around the world - he should have also pointed out that Burnley played in the European Cup before Liv...
by Chester Perry
Sat Jan 23, 2021 7:56 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 6150
Views: 409748

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

I am expecting the 24th edition of the Deloitte Football Money League report this coming week, it should make for an interesting, if not apocalyptic read as the the pandemic lockdowns continue to shakedown the fragile financial landscape in the game - I expect we may have climbed a bit and picture p...
by Chester Perry
Sat Jan 23, 2021 7:49 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 6150
Views: 409748

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Also in today's Scoreboard from the Financial Times is this on Private Equity's move into leagues rather than teams - the extensive feature the FT did on this is further up the thread) but for those that missed it, this is a good introduction Sports leagues seek private equity cash: at what cost? Pr...
by Chester Perry
Sat Jan 23, 2021 7:43 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 6150
Views: 409748

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

This is an interesting take from the Financial Times and in partly in line with a previous post on this thread Scoreboard: English football gets a government bailout behind closed doors JANUARY 23, 2021 English football’s secret government rescue Long before US billionaire Stan Kroenke acquired the ...
by Chester Perry
Sat Jan 23, 2021 7:36 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 6150
Views: 409748

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Speaking of Podcasts - the latest from Unofficial Partner looks at the recently published FA Strategic Planoday we look at the role of The FA following the publication of its Strategic Plan covering the next four years to 2024. The blurb Today we look at the role of The FA following the publication...
by Chester Perry
Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:30 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 6150
Views: 409748

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

More on those financial woes at Barcelona - from AS.com a Spanish outlet - it is an old article but fits in with recent reports Barcelona: economist warns members could lose control of club after Goldman-Sachs deal Leading economist Marc Ciria has painted a bleak picture for Barcelona, warning a €80...
by Chester Perry
Sat Jan 23, 2021 5:07 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Alan Pace tweet
Replies: 72
Views: 5844

Re: Alan Pace tweet

You have been incredibly biased against ALK including believing everything typed against them as factual I think you need to corroborate that, the only facts I have stated are that they have borrowed money to buy the club - freely admitted by Alan Pace - and that I don't think that is right for a f...
by Chester Perry
Sat Jan 23, 2021 1:27 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 6150
Views: 409748

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Rory Smith in the New York Times with a sorry tale of a youn talented and exciting South American player from a large family and poor background and rabid agents Moisés Caicedo and the Perils of Too Much Interest JANUARY 21, 2021 Nothing stays secret for long in soccer. So thorough is the game’s hun...
by Chester Perry
Sat Jan 23, 2021 1:02 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 6150
Views: 409748

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Just how bad is it at Barca? I see they're requesting more time to make a payment of £178 million on some loans/debts etc. I was just getting ready to post about that - I have been post for a long time on this thread about how they had stretch the model financially - the ego that went into some of ...
by Chester Perry
Sat Jan 23, 2021 12:43 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 6150
Views: 409748

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

meanwhile Portuguese football is desperately trying to keep football going, to prevent a financial meltdown - it is a story familiar to these shores just the money numbers are vastly different - from SportsBusiness Portuguese football facing losses of €266m, warns of ‘collapse’ if league is suspende...
by Chester Perry
Sat Jan 23, 2021 12:40 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 6150
Views: 409748

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

The ambitious deadline for Serie A rights tenders has been pushed back a couple of days, they may be trying to drum up renewed bids to get closer to their targets or (if they are very lucky) have bidders coming in very close to one another and are encouraging to blow one another out of the water - f...
by Chester Perry
Sat Jan 23, 2021 12:28 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 6150
Views: 409748

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Mediapro fresh from losing it's domestic rights for French Football, is now experiencing problems elsewhere - from SportsProMedia Jaume Roures admits “rethink” is required for Mediapro Barcelona-based media company seeking to renegotiate deal to air La Liga in commercial premises. Posted: January 21...
by Chester Perry
Sat Jan 23, 2021 12:08 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 6150
Views: 409748

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Interesting move in the USA for long time Premier League partner NBC - the story is that is is going to close down NBCSN and move it's sports to more premium services such as Peacock - it is difficult to tell at this stage if it will improve the bidding for the next cycle of Premier League rights ht...
by Chester Perry
Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:34 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 6150
Views: 409748

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

For those who used to get angry about Sean complaining he had no budget - from the BBC Liverpool: Jurgen Klopp says 'somebody else is making transfer decisions' at club Last updated 6 hours ago Liverpool manager Jurgen Klopp says "somebody else is making the decisions" when it comes to transfer deal...
by Chester Perry
Fri Jan 22, 2021 8:21 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Wigan
Replies: 261
Views: 18645

Re: Wigan

Why do you say " trying too hard to justify their actions " ? The administrators statement seems perfectly reasonable to me. they are culpable in the drawn out nature of this exercise and of continually making moves to reduce the value of what is on sale, including after setting a price with those ...
by Chester Perry
Fri Jan 22, 2021 5:24 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 6150
Views: 409748

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

You may have read a lot about the state of pitches in the last few days, everything from the gap between the end of last season to this not being enough to resurface through to the potential of stadiums being refused to host the European Championships as clubs want to resurface this season and Leeds...
by Chester Perry
Fri Jan 22, 2021 5:17 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 6150
Views: 409748

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

I am going to be really interested to see how this works with a recently expanded, European Championships, the next edition which is supposed to take place in 8 countries, a recently introduced new international competition - the nations league, a third European club competition - Europa Conference...
by Chester Perry
Fri Jan 22, 2021 5:11 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Wigan
Replies: 261
Views: 18645

Re: Wigan

As if by magic the administrators try too hard to justify their actions

https://wiganathletic.com/news/2021/jan ... 22-01-21-/
by Chester Perry
Fri Jan 22, 2021 4:47 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Wigan
Replies: 261
Views: 18645

Re: Wigan

this is a decent read on the drawn out administration - which is deserving of being questioned in it's own right

https://twohundredpercent.net/wigan-ath ... low-admin/
by Chester Perry
Fri Jan 22, 2021 4:41 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 6150
Views: 409748

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

A depressing blog-piece on the state of financial play at Birmingham City

https://almajir.net/2021/01/22/bcfc-cre ... -and-ccjs/
by Chester Perry
Fri Jan 22, 2021 4:36 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 6150
Views: 409748

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

I am going to be really interested to see how this works with a recently expanded, European Championships, the next edition which is supposed to take place in 8 countries, a recently introduced new international competition - the nations league, a third European club competition - Europa Conference ...
by Chester Perry
Fri Jan 22, 2021 3:07 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Alan Pace tweet
Replies: 72
Views: 5844

Re: Alan Pace tweet

You really couldn’t stop willing ALK to fail for one moment I have absolutely no desire for the new owners to fail - the consequences of that would be too dreadful to the club, fans, town and local economy I have no idea where you would get the idea that I want them to fail from, nothing I have pos...
by Chester Perry
Fri Jan 22, 2021 2:41 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 7673
Views: 528236

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Also interesting to note that Pace is the only new director at Longside Properties - no Smith and Hunt

https://find-and-update.company-informa ... 9/officers
by Chester Perry
Fri Jan 22, 2021 2:33 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 7673
Views: 528236

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Yes, I was meaning equity specifically as shares and ownership of the legal entity. However, thinking about it I'm not sure whether I was correct there. The charge is over Burnley FC Holdings (the holding company) as well as the companies that own the club and the ground. The main assets in Burnley...
by Chester Perry
Fri Jan 22, 2021 2:01 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 6150
Views: 409748

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

The Telegraph on How Sheffield Wednesday became the Championship's most chaotic club MIKE MCGRATH JANUARY 22, 2021 The FA Cup is supposed to be an enjoyable distraction for most clubs - a break from the relentless slog of league campaigns in the depths of winter. But for Sheffield Wednesday it has s...
by Chester Perry
Fri Jan 22, 2021 1:47 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 7673
Views: 528236

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

I see stuff is starting to filter through on Companies House now. New Memorandums and Articles of Association (although that isn't online yet), it will be interesting to see what the changes will be. It could obviously remove the requirement for 4,000 shares to be a director which has been referenc...
by Chester Perry
Fri Jan 22, 2021 1:14 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 6150
Views: 409748

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

The Athletic again - this time looking at the debts accrued as a result of Covid - it uses a very dodgy looking set of figures provide by @Kieran Maguire The COVID debt that means Premier League clubs are desperate for money Matt Slater 7h ago 21 You may have missed this milestone — what with all th...
by Chester Perry
Fri Jan 22, 2021 1:05 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 6150
Views: 409748

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

The Athletic with their take on the FIFA statement and the latest plans for a Super Legaue Explained: Why UEFA is ‘rattled’ over the latest European Super League plan Matt Slater, Adam Crafton and more 7h ago Other contributor: Phil Buckingham For football fans the announcement appeared to come from...
by Chester Perry
Fri Jan 22, 2021 12:59 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Eric Pieters
Replies: 32
Views: 3741

Re: Eric Pieters

IWOODLOVETT wrote:
Sat Oct 03, 2020 8:48 am
Where’s Graham Branch when you need him ??
he was on comms cam last night looking very well indeed
by Chester Perry
Fri Jan 22, 2021 12:53 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Alan Pace tweet
Replies: 72
Views: 5844

Re: Alan Pace tweet

It’s painful though. Picking holes in anything and everything the new man does. They wouldn’t have been as critical of Mike G making a similar tweet of that I’m certain. Have I picked holes in everything?, I believe I have tried to be as balanced as possible with both Mike Garlick and Alan Pace loo...
by Chester Perry
Fri Jan 22, 2021 12:23 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 6150
Views: 409748

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

The esk wrote:
Fri Jan 22, 2021 12:23 pm
Apologies I know this thread is for football finance but I don't go elsewhere on the board other than here.

Well done last night!!!!!!! :)
thought you would enjoy it Paul
by Chester Perry
Fri Jan 22, 2021 2:20 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 6150
Views: 409748

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

I often talk about the Premier League acting like Diplomats when it comes to International relations. well now they have recruited a very senior civil service official - remember they are dealing with our own government a lot these days not just International business - always useful to have an insi...
by Chester Perry
Fri Jan 22, 2021 2:03 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley wins at Anfield
Replies: 36
Views: 1809

Re: Burnley wins at Anfield

FCBurnley wrote:
Fri Jan 22, 2021 1:44 am
I went to the cup tie with Barry Kilby. We were so much better than the score suggests. Derek Scott could have had a hat trick.
and we showed it was no fluke performance back at the Turf too
by Chester Perry
Fri Jan 22, 2021 1:58 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Alan Pace tweet
Replies: 72
Views: 5844

Re: Alan Pace tweet

I personally don't have any problem at all with the tweet but I think you make a valid point when it comes to being in a rut. Tony Khan at Fulham recently apologised for a performance. I think it was done in an attempt to placate the fans, but Jesus. H. Christ that is just not the done thing in Eng...
by Chester Perry
Fri Jan 22, 2021 1:54 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Alan Pace tweet
Replies: 72
Views: 5844

Re: Alan Pace tweet

Let’s see his reaction to such a run, as and when it arrives. My only gripe with his communication to date was the, what I felt unnecessary, criticism of Southampton and their academy. If these communications continue on the back of evidence of strategic, operational or other failings, perhaps fair...
by Chester Perry
Fri Jan 22, 2021 1:05 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Alan Pace tweet
Replies: 72
Views: 5844

Re: Alan Pace tweet

Call me old fashioned I do not think a Director of a Premier League club should be doing this - what happens when we are on a bad run? that is not to say that communication from the club could improve - it can there are more strategic and operational things he can talk about not the result of a matc...
by Chester Perry
Fri Jan 22, 2021 12:57 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Charlie Taylor
Replies: 28
Views: 2751

Re: Charlie Taylor

Dyche has said it is a very minor hamstring nick in the Press Conference - and should not be out as long as last time
by Chester Perry
Fri Jan 22, 2021 12:54 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Post match interviews v Liverpool
Replies: 4
Views: 606

Re: Post match interviews v Liverpool

Klopp post match press conference

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmaN5SssQL4
by Chester Perry
Fri Jan 22, 2021 12:40 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 6150
Views: 409748

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

yet more on that European Super League doc - Remember the Glazers were behind Project Big Picture https://twitter.com/martynziegler/status/1352273676117409792 and here - - you have to respect the sheer brass balls of Barcelona and Real Madrid https://twitter.com/tariqpanja/status/1352342505518473225
by Chester Perry
Fri Jan 22, 2021 12:37 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 6150
Views: 409748

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

This is likely to become a big story - from the Times Major police inquiry into football ‘fraud’ Integrity of evidence in 12 cases investigated exclusive Matt Lawton, Chief Sports Correspondent Thursday January 21 2021, 10.05pm, The Times Premier League A major police investigation has uncovered evi...
by Chester Perry
Fri Jan 22, 2021 12:34 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Post match interviews v Liverpool
Replies: 4
Views: 606

Re: Post match interviews v Liverpool

Dyche post match Press Conference

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ziJyUeLrFTs
by Chester Perry
Thu Jan 21, 2021 10:19 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 6150
Views: 409748

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

David Conn with the story the story that Europes big clubs are pushing a Super League - from early this afternoon Covid impact puts European super league plan back in play - Liverpool and Manchester United among clubs discussing plan - Fifa threatens to ban clubs which join breakaway league David Co...
by Chester Perry
Thu Jan 21, 2021 7:11 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 7673
Views: 528236

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Perhaps we need to look at this from a slightly different angle. Our new direcrors are senior members of the LDS faith. They have 16 million members and I believe Mr. Checketts is ranked 39 in the order of people of influence. From the Wall Street Journal the Church has a secret investment fund of ...
by Chester Perry
Thu Jan 21, 2021 6:40 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: January Transfer Window Discussion - Rumours and Links welcome
Replies: 1150
Views: 92886

Re: January Transfer Window Discussion - Rumours and Links welcome

The people saying Knight wouldn't make our bench are probably those saying similar about Brownhill last year. Brownhill looked like a rabbit in the headlights on his first sub appearance - training with the squad for a while gave us a very different proposition when he made his first start, it is a...
by Chester Perry
Thu Jan 21, 2021 6:36 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 7673
Views: 528236

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

KateR wrote:
Thu Jan 21, 2021 6:33 pm
threads are crossing over, I just posted a reply to you on the same subject regarding the Lancs article.
It is staggering just how often it happens
by Chester Perry
Thu Jan 21, 2021 6:32 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 7673
Views: 528236

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

KateR wrote:
Thu Jan 21, 2021 6:27 pm
me to, perhaps what is meant by "equity" is part of the shares & ownership, which would be a slightly different slant on things, however.............
that is how I read what Aggi was saying

I posted a similar view on the MMT thread about the story last night