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by Chester Perry
Wed Sep 30, 2020 3:31 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Is tonight the night?
Replies: 5
Views: 482

Re: Is tonight the night?

Oh for a touch of George Boyd magic

https://www.premierleague.com/video/single/1060840
by Chester Perry
Wed Sep 30, 2020 3:04 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football isn't just another business.
Replies: 9
Views: 295

Re: Football isn't just another business.

They have a lot of very left leaning writers - Nicholson is one and is no fan of modern football - but makes his living off the game not just as a writer, but also off T Shirts and prints. I have shared a lot of his column pieces on the MMT thread over the years because I thing he has a lot of inter...
by Chester Perry
Wed Sep 30, 2020 2:51 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football isn't just another business.
Replies: 9
Views: 295

Re: Football isn't just another business.

Written by a man who is a fan of a club (Middlesbrough) whose owner has supplemented the club to the tune of £400k pw (on average) for the last decade and was shelling out an awful lot in the two decades before that. you have to reasonably expect that a manager working under strict fiscal management...
by Chester Perry
Wed Sep 30, 2020 10:46 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 5365
Views: 373373

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

TwoHundredPercent.com with a very rounded look at the financial crisis in the lower leagues The Forthcoming Lower League Apocalypse by Ian | Sep 29, 2020 Such is the nature of a force majeure that criticism of those in charge of administering anything while it wreaks its havoc is usually tempered. A...
by Chester Perry
Wed Sep 30, 2020 10:20 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Sean Dyche Press Conference
Replies: 21
Views: 2808

Re: Sean Dyche Press Conference

For some reason, that interview just goes black at about 5 mins in. Tried it twice on two different machines and the same both times. The message though has clearly changed on the expectation that we have retained Tarks, that we don't need more bodies (though we'd like a couple). I think that proba...
by Chester Perry
Wed Sep 30, 2020 10:04 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 5365
Views: 373373

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

@PhillipeAuclair with the latest on the FIFA/Trinidad & Tobago FA spat on JosimarFootball.com - Fifa bullying backfires 29/09/2020 On 24 September it seemed that Fifa had won by knockout against the rebellious Trinidad & Tobago FA. 24 hours later the tables were turned. By Philippe Auclair t seemed ...
by Chester Perry
Wed Sep 30, 2020 9:43 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Macclesfield wound up
Replies: 40
Views: 2797

Re: Macclesfield wound up

The worst possible sign for Macclesfield - the ground is put up for sale Rightmove

https://twitter.com/KarenFaz/status/1310997993047367680
by Chester Perry
Wed Sep 30, 2020 9:39 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 5365
Views: 373373

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

AFC Wimbledon are getting very close to returning to playing matches at Plough Lane

https://www.afcwimbledon.co.uk/news/202 ... xecutive2/
by Chester Perry
Wed Sep 30, 2020 9:17 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Sean Dyche Press Conference
Replies: 21
Views: 2808

Re: Sean Dyche Press Conference

you can watch the press conference here https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7wjbcg

EDIT a very marked change of tone re players contracts and new additions
by Chester Perry
Wed Sep 30, 2020 9:14 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital...
Replies: 715
Views: 42994

Re: ALK Capital...

Duffer_ wrote:
Wed Sep 30, 2020 7:38 am
Do we just need to will it so?



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I think someone misinterpreted (willfully?)
by Chester Perry
Wed Sep 30, 2020 1:02 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 5365
Views: 373373

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

The reality of the new normal - after seeing a slight fall in domestic rights for the next cycle, the Bundesliga has now found itself with a 20% fall in overseas rights to look forward too, it was starting from a very low base too , these rights were incredibly cheap compared to the Premier League, ...
by Chester Perry
Wed Sep 30, 2020 12:55 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 5365
Views: 373373

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

I have posted a number of times about how aggressively commercial La Liga, here they appear to be doing things more akin to what a club would do - really not convinced that this is what a League should be doing - from SportsBusiness.com LaLiga to launch licensed sports bars to support international ...
by Chester Perry
Wed Sep 30, 2020 12:17 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Clubs voting
Replies: 11
Views: 1361

Re: Clubs voting

Points Per Game it is but still no agreement as to how much of the season needs to be completed

https://twitter.com/RobHarris/status/13 ... 1698955266
by Chester Perry
Wed Sep 30, 2020 12:03 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: BFC TRANSFER NEWS SUMMER 2020(MUST CONTAIN LINK)
Replies: 4144
Views: 400236

Re: BFC TRANSFER NEWS SUMMER 2020(MUST CONTAIN LINK)

Thanks Chester. So basically now that football did restart and seems to be continuing on its fair to say that our main loss of income comes from commercial which is approx £12m per year. It’s interesting though as I did read a thread by Swiss Ramble on Twitter which explained how our higher finish ...
by Chester Perry
Tue Sep 29, 2020 11:41 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: BFC TRANSFER NEWS SUMMER 2020(MUST CONTAIN LINK)
Replies: 4144
Views: 400236

Re: BFC TRANSFER NEWS SUMMER 2020(MUST CONTAIN LINK)m

Can someone explain where the £50m loss of income comes from exactly? Aside from fans not in the stadium (this equates to nowhere near £50m I believe?). That has been done a number of times in the last 5 months and the £50m was very explicitly if the season did not restart and there was no sign of ...
by Chester Perry
Tue Sep 29, 2020 11:20 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 5365
Views: 373373

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

randomclaret2 wrote:
Tue Sep 29, 2020 11:12 pm
The mention of Bristol City is interesting.Their majority shareholder is said to be worth around £1.7billion
Hedgefund manager - he will prefer a sensible approach that a Salary cap affords
by Chester Perry
Tue Sep 29, 2020 11:18 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: BFC TRANSFER NEWS SUMMER 2020(MUST CONTAIN LINK)
Replies: 4144
Views: 400236

Re: BFC TRANSFER NEWS SUMMER 2020(MUST CONTAIN LINK)

Has anyone got Mike Garlick's statement from back in April? Didn't he speak of covid-19 costing the club £50 million - and wasn't that just if we couldn't complete 2019/20 season? I don't think MG said anything about any further losses if fans weren't able to attend in 2020/21 - and why would he in...
by Chester Perry
Tue Sep 29, 2020 11:08 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 5365
Views: 373373

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Jorge Mendes on the joys of being an agent - benefitting from both this weeks transactions between Manchester City and Benfica - a meagre Euro 20m earnings for him in this window so far - how does he manage to get by. https://twitter.com/sportingintel/status/1311043543650258950 I love this response ...
by Chester Perry
Tue Sep 29, 2020 10:41 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital...
Replies: 715
Views: 42994

Re: ALK Capital...

ClaretTony wrote:
Tue Sep 29, 2020 10:33 pm
Nothing to do with Roy. It’s from information I’ve received from very reliable sources.
I am sure that Roy will join me in willing that is the outcome the club achieved
by Chester Perry
Tue Sep 29, 2020 10:11 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital...
Replies: 715
Views: 42994

Re: ALK Capital...

That’s not what we were told regarding the costs. Cost us time but not funds. I am aware of that CT, but it is very rare in any form of project that additional time does not cost additional monies, and we know these were far from insignificant issues. I know you and Roy have the occasional disagree...
by Chester Perry
Tue Sep 29, 2020 10:06 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital...
Replies: 715
Views: 42994

Re: ALK Capital...

Isn't the situation one where even before Covid the club was struggling in this league with an aging squad having lost monies on some poor transfer deals (in hind sight) with a need to invest big to maintain/improve the squad? Covid has blown what plans we had out of the water and the Board, I imag...
by Chester Perry
Tue Sep 29, 2020 9:50 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital...
Replies: 715
Views: 42994

Re: ALK Capital...

Apologies, yes I meant “spent any of the clubs money on incoming transfers” given we made a 5 million pound profit last season and 45 million pound profit the season before. I can put the hesitancy this summer down to this posted on the MMT thread earlier which relates to our Covid liabilities non-...
by Chester Perry
Tue Sep 29, 2020 9:24 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 5365
Views: 373373

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

that report comes after the government has expressed it's frustration of the Premier League still not agreeing and EFL bail-out - again from the Telegraph - I said quite some time back the the Premier League would not agree to a bail out before the transfer window shuts (it strengthens the negotiati...
by Chester Perry
Tue Sep 29, 2020 9:16 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 5365
Views: 373373

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

The Telegraph believes that the National League is going to be bailed out by the Government Exclusive: Government provides bailout to National League clubs to keep them afloat and prevent them withdrawing from FA Cup BEN RUMSBY SEPTEMBER 29, 2020 The Government will provide a coronavirus bailout to ...
by Chester Perry
Tue Sep 29, 2020 8:50 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital...
Replies: 715
Views: 42994

Re: ALK Capital...

claretandy wrote:
Tue Sep 29, 2020 8:48 pm
Quite a few of the directors hols some of their shares in a tax efficient way.
I would be surprised if they didn;t given the prudent way the club has been managed
by Chester Perry
Tue Sep 29, 2020 7:57 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital...
Replies: 715
Views: 42994

Re: ALK Capital...

summitclaret wrote:
Tue Sep 29, 2020 7:51 pm
Is this too simplistic, but if the Club is sold for £200m, MG gets just under £100m?
not after Capital gains tax he doesn't
by Chester Perry
Tue Sep 29, 2020 7:46 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Looks like Scott Parker is about to be sacked at Fulham
Replies: 14
Views: 1889

Re: Looks like Scott Parker is about to be sacked at Fulham

He was dead right though - and Tony Khan has been in charge of procuring players for a few years now - he has a terrible record and absolutely no strategic plan in place as to what they want to be other than in the Premier League - I thought today's Football Weekly podcast at the Guardian got it spo...
by Chester Perry
Tue Sep 29, 2020 7:11 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital...
Replies: 715
Views: 42994

Re: ALK Capital...

Question: If Garlick only owns 49.?% of the shares does someone else not have to agree to sell also or the Americans don't really achieve their aim of "overall control"? So it might not actually be in MG's hands I thought there was a rule that any sale of shares had to be approved by the board (who...
by Chester Perry
Tue Sep 29, 2020 6:19 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital...
Replies: 715
Views: 42994

Re: ALK Capital...

It’s a massive decision for Garlick. In my opinion he’s not spent any of the clubs money recently to make it a good proposition to investors, but now it’s coming to the crunch he’s got to weigh up whether he’s cashing in to a responsible group. Ultimately I think money will talk and he’ll get rid. ...
by Chester Perry
Tue Sep 29, 2020 5:16 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 5365
Views: 373373

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

A new one for me - The Engrossed in Football magazine has collated a few articles old and new and made them available online under the banner of "Football as business" - some interesting stuff from a historical perspective.

https://www.eifmagazine.com/football-as-a-business
by Chester Perry
Tue Sep 29, 2020 4:47 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 5365
Views: 373373

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

There is speculation that CFG may be looking at a club in Israel (that would be 11 under the umbrella it true)

https://twitter.com/Prof_Chadwick/statu ... 1159238659

of course it could be other interest from the emirate
by Chester Perry
Tue Sep 29, 2020 4:11 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 5365
Views: 373373

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

claretandy wrote:
Tue Sep 29, 2020 4:08 pm
It has us down for 9 full seasons ?
mistake acknowledge in the tail of the twitter thread
by Chester Perry
Tue Sep 29, 2020 3:39 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 5365
Views: 373373

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Much of which was so expertly predicted by The esk in his "Football Shorts - part one" article from several months ago. Not difficult to imagine a devastating effect on the beautiful game if no fans are allowed until March next year and yet still the EFL continue to call for further financial assis...
by Chester Perry
Tue Sep 29, 2020 3:34 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Dychonomics vs The Football Pyramid
Replies: 25
Views: 1024

Re: Dychonomics vs The Football Pyramid

Steve Bruce essentially saying the same thing but with more visible empathy - let's see if he get's pulled apart in anything like the same manner

https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/s ... il-out-efl
by Chester Perry
Tue Sep 29, 2020 3:25 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Tarks back in training today
Replies: 68
Views: 3953

Re: Tarks back in training today

Those Sky images - Ben Mee with a new haircut

https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/s ... n-the-move
by Chester Perry
Tue Sep 29, 2020 3:20 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 5365
Views: 373373

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Tonight's file on 4 (that's Radio 4 is a special on the current financial crises hitting the football pyramid - from 8pm and features amongst other the chaps from the Price of football podcast

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000mzph
by Chester Perry
Tue Sep 29, 2020 2:55 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 5365
Views: 373373

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

A bit more detail behind that statement:- 2019....£115.0m 2018....£121.5m 2017....£105.0m 2016....£29.6m 2015....£66.6m 2014....£11.9m 2013....£8.2m 2012....£15.6m 2011....£16.1m 2010....£59.6m. Think that's about it for us in the PL, plus of course the est.£124m for last season. Always some uncert...
by Chester Perry
Tue Sep 29, 2020 2:52 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 5365
Views: 373373

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Chester, from your previous post re La Liga....Chief Executive Luigi De Siervo "The whole system is on the verge of collapse"........It's really not difficult to see his English equivalent saying something very similar in the not too distant future. The broadcast rebate agreed for those final 9 mat...
by Chester Perry
Tue Sep 29, 2020 2:28 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Tarks back in training today
Replies: 68
Views: 3953

Re: Tarks back in training today

Caballo wrote:
Tue Sep 29, 2020 2:25 pm
Not all of them require the influence of the transfer window.
yes but we need to understand just what they are Posting Under the Influence of - occasionally I think PUI charges could be appropriate temporary suspension rule on this board
by Chester Perry
Tue Sep 29, 2020 1:55 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 5365
Views: 373373

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Interesting table from @Sporting Intel on the top 20 beneficiaries of Premier League central distribution (broadcast monies)over the last 28 years - (not convinced that it includes last season

https://twitter.com/sportingintel/statu ... 5294383112
by Chester Perry
Tue Sep 29, 2020 1:48 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 5365
Views: 373373

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

SerieA have reported that they have lost more than €500m in revenues since the Covid crisis began - which represents around 20% of annual revenues - that number appears entirely consistent with all the big 5 leagues - from SportsBusiness.com Serie A has lost more than €500m, chief executive says Kev...
by Chester Perry
Tue Sep 29, 2020 1:05 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 5365
Views: 373373

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

A thread explaining why even the original source of "Football's Magic Money Tree" have to be careful with their spending - or at least will need to factor in the the extra interest cost of doing so - the banks (like bookies) never aim to lose. Manchester United must pay higher interest on loans if t...
by Chester Perry
Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:55 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Server unreliability
Replies: 58
Views: 2034

Re: Server unreliability

FactualFrank wrote:
Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:51 pm
Seems to be between 2-12 minutes when it goes down.


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that tallies with my experience
by Chester Perry
Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:48 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Server unreliability
Replies: 58
Views: 2034

Re: Server unreliability

it has been happening again
by Chester Perry
Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:38 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Dychonomics vs The Football Pyramid
Replies: 25
Views: 1024

Re: Dychonomics vs The Football Pyramid

A few thoughts - and this general story was all first talked about here - http://www.uptheclarets.com/messageboard/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=49962 - this thread is just a continuation and probably should be merged Dyche has dug himself a hole here - the press have really jumped all over the back of this w...
by Chester Perry
Mon Sep 28, 2020 1:12 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 5365
Views: 373373

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

@SwissRamble looks at Borussia Dortmund's 2019/20 Financial results

https://twitter.com/SwissRamble/status/ ... 4342677504
by Chester Perry
Sun Sep 27, 2020 3:19 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 5365
Views: 373373

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

TwoHunderedPercent.com with the latest on the current biggest Legal cases in football - can you imagine the President of PSG, Chair of Bien media and UEFA Executive Commitee member getting the 28 month jail sentence that the Swiss Prosecutors are asking for. Football on Trial: Pinto, Al-Khelaifi & V...
by Chester Perry
Sun Sep 27, 2020 2:58 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 5365
Views: 373373

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

and just to emphasize the point that football itself is in that same mess as non-league the same people at GameofthePeople.com did this article after the 2019-20 financial results of Juventus were made public - (we have Manchester United's 2019-20 results coming soon and Ed Woodward's programme note...
by Chester Perry
Sun Sep 27, 2020 2:53 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 5365
Views: 373373

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

GameofthePeople.com with a reminder of why non-league football (and most of football in general) is in the mess it finds itself Non-League’s rainy day… time to crisis test and change the constitution GOTP Editorial Team Posted on September 24, 2020 THE late Alan Hull of Lindisfarne once wrote a tune...