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by Chester Perry
Sat Jul 04, 2020 8:48 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 4579
Views: 352149

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Northwest counties team Oswestry Town announce they are to fold as a result of the financial impact of the Pandemic

https://twitter.com/FCOswestryTown/stat ... 4346520577
by Chester Perry
Sat Jul 04, 2020 4:49 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Today's Football 4-7-20
Replies: 144
Views: 2109

Re: Today's Football 4-7-20

Spijed wrote:
Sat Jul 04, 2020 4:44 pm
Crystal Palace have fallen apart in recent games. They barely get in the opposition box. Wonder if they'll get rid of Roy?
It is only about 10 days since he signed a contract extension
by Chester Perry
Sat Jul 04, 2020 2:43 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Norwich
Replies: 21
Views: 819

Re: Norwich

let's take the 3 points off them - could mean an extra £2m or so in the pot for the bonuses
by Chester Perry
Sat Jul 04, 2020 2:39 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Wigan
Replies: 97
Views: 4465

Re: Wigan

to add to the shenanigans @KieranMaguire has notices some strange share price fluctuations too

https://twitter.com/KieranMaguire/statu ... 0136649729
by Chester Perry
Sat Jul 04, 2020 2:32 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 4579
Views: 352149

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

FIFA launched a new online Professional football Journal today - it can be found here https://www.professionalfootballjournal.fifa.com/homepage I found this article particular interesting and informative - Quick overview of post-COVID-19 football: From cash-flow pressures to mitigation - in particu...
by Chester Perry
Sat Jul 04, 2020 1:36 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Wigan
Replies: 97
Views: 4465

Re: Wigan

Nick de Marco the top football lawyer in the country with his take - going to be very difficult for the EFL this one - we keep saying it but, just what has Dave Baldwin got himself into

https://twitter.com/nickdemarco_/status ... 6970450944
by Chester Perry
Sat Jul 04, 2020 1:31 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 4579
Views: 352149

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

@KieranMaguire theorises in the Sunderland Echo just what Financier Michael Dell is doing with his money at Sunderland, and Southampton - of course he could be doing a McQuarrie and factoring - as I mentioned yesterday the strange thing is just is what is being used to secure the loan at Southampton...
by Chester Perry
Sat Jul 04, 2020 1:07 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Investor
Replies: 244
Views: 12699

Re: Investor

There has been another approach to amortisation, exercised by that most financially creative organisation - Derby County - they have been formally charged by the EFL for it (back in January) and we are still awaiting the hearing found here - https://www.accountingweb.co.uk/business/finance-strategy/...
by Chester Perry
Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:49 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 4579
Views: 352149

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Arsenal have been fined by FIFA for putting variable sell on clauses in transfer contracts - from the Associated Press FIFA fines Arsenal over sell-on clauses for player transfers By ROB HARRIS Arsenal was fined 40,000 Swiss francs ($42,300) by FIFA and warned about its conduct regarding player tran...
by Chester Perry
Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:08 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 4579
Views: 352149

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

The football transfer market is embracing technology, led by a former Goldman Sachs stockbroker - Here's his story in @theipaper- why Player LENS is one of football's best kept secrets: Player Lens is one of football’s best kept secrets – a platform where 600 clubs around the world barter over trans...
by Chester Perry
Fri Jul 03, 2020 7:47 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Wigan
Replies: 97
Views: 4465

Re: Wigan

https://twitter.com/marksparko/status/1279000646335836163?s=12 That has been doing the rounds all day - some investigative types say that some claims within it are no more than a fan created conspiracy theory and the way they are presented does support that line of thinking, and also that the accou...
by Chester Perry
Fri Jul 03, 2020 5:50 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 4579
Views: 352149

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Stevenage will be wanting this to happen - The EFL are considering an appeal to the recent punishment handed to Maccelsfield following their failure to pay staff on time again.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/20 ... ers-appeal
by Chester Perry
Fri Jul 03, 2020 5:33 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Dyche set for selection boost
Replies: 27
Views: 1983

Re: ARTICLE: Dyche set for selection boost

Sean Dyche - pre-match press conference

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cpK0zJOw0M
by Chester Perry
Fri Jul 03, 2020 4:38 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Dyche set for selection boost
Replies: 27
Views: 1983

Re: ARTICLE: Dyche set for selection boost

Hopefully less than the benefit of being involved in it. No one outside the club knows if we actually made money from the last time - we got £800k in prize money but nothing is known beyond that, though matchday Income was up that season by a roughly similar amount. The TV income was impossible to ...
by Chester Perry
Fri Jul 03, 2020 3:15 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Dyche set for selection boost
Replies: 27
Views: 1983

Re: ARTICLE: Dyche set for selection boost

The full pre-match press conference from Chris Wilder - now available if you have 22 mins to spare

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5xvWsSLF2Y
by Chester Perry
Fri Jul 03, 2020 3:11 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Dyche set for selection boost
Replies: 27
Views: 1983

Re: ARTICLE: Dyche set for selection boost

Bullabill wrote:
Fri Jul 03, 2020 2:55 pm
I sometimes find Sean hard to listen to but, Christ, I couldn't watch Mr.Wilder week after week.
that overlay background is horrendous
by Chester Perry
Fri Jul 03, 2020 3:08 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 4579
Views: 352149

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Michael Dell (the American financier) who has previously been linked with investment/financing at both Sunderland and Derby, has had a charge with Southampton registered - from the Sunderland Echo Michael Dell and his MSD UK Holdings group invest in Southampton - a year after their Sunderland takeov...
by Chester Perry
Fri Jul 03, 2020 2:15 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Dyche set for selection boost
Replies: 27
Views: 1983

Re: ARTICLE: Dyche set for selection boost

Meanwhile Chris Wilder - hands out some toffee (in the Bob Paisley sense) and stirs the pot at the end

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQgkv9LnJs0
by Chester Perry
Fri Jul 03, 2020 1:37 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Dyche set for selection boost
Replies: 27
Views: 1983

Re: ARTICLE: Dyche set for selection boost

Belial wrote:
Fri Jul 03, 2020 1:35 pm
Vydra and J Rod to start then. McNeil in cm and Pieters left mid again?
more likely McNeil on the right and Brownhill in midfield I would say if we have 2 up front
by Chester Perry
Fri Jul 03, 2020 1:30 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 4579
Views: 352149

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

I don't think anything has changed much since the last time I broke it all down - the issue is cash flow, we have lots going out and nothing coming in - I reckon we have had around £35m (+/- £5m) in outgoings since the pause - Salaries, operating costs, restart costs etc. That would likely clear ou...
by Chester Perry
Fri Jul 03, 2020 12:50 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 4579
Views: 352149

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

the trials and tribulations of buying a Football club when you act as an effusive investor rather than someone who has done real due diligence and understands the environment into which you are moving into - the murkiness of the transfer market and agents that give the industry a bad name - from the...
by Chester Perry
Fri Jul 03, 2020 12:37 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Joey Barton: The Manager on the CFB podcast
Replies: 2
Views: 573

Joey Barton: The Manager on the CFB podcast

Part 1 - apparently he was targeting playing for Burnley again after his betting ban before the Fleetwood offer came in - as always speaks well of our club

https://anchor.fm/footballcfb/episodes/ ... ood-ecsslo
by Chester Perry
Fri Jul 03, 2020 12:34 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 4579
Views: 352149

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

So the owner of Leeds Utd and Eleven sports is having to learn the hard way - no domestic TV broadcaster will buy the La Liga or Serie A broadcast rights from him (why finance a rival or someone who constantly berates you for showing his team and their associated sponsors too much on TV and not pay...
by Chester Perry
Fri Jul 03, 2020 12:26 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 4579
Views: 352149

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

UEFA sign a Spanish Deal for it's club competitions for the next cycle - from SportsProMedia.com Uefa confirms ‘€975m’ Champions League rights deal with Telefónica Elite European club soccer stays on Movistar+ in Spain through 2024. Posted: July 3 2020By: Steven Impey - New contract worth a reported...
by Chester Perry
Fri Jul 03, 2020 12:02 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: The Chairman
Replies: 281
Views: 17243

Re: The Chairman

I expect fans at games in some form when the new season kicks off - I expect them at the FA cup final too - I don't think it is right but I expect it - there is so much going on behind the scenes to make it happen.
by Chester Perry
Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:51 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 4579
Views: 352149

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Jonathan Barnett -- the man who Forbes describes as the most powerful sports agent in the world, talks to the Football CFB Podcast about his work the new FIFA regulations on Agents etc

https://anchor.fm/footballcfb/episodes/ ... ett-eg5t70
by Chester Perry
Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:45 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 4579
Views: 352149

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

First story of a Premier League club defaulting on an outstanding Transfer Stage Payment (West Ham) - I expect more - from the Times Fifa to investigate West Ham United over £5.4m Sébastian Haller payment Martyn Ziegler, Declan Warrington Friday July 03 2020, 12.01am, The Times West Ham United are f...
by Chester Perry
Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:38 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: The Chairman
Replies: 281
Views: 17243

Re: The Chairman

"I think stadiums will be open long before Christmas, eternal optimist that I am, but thats dependent on the idiots sticking by government guidelines still". Don't think the idiots will, if by definition an idiot is someone who defies Government guidelines, meaning top class idiots like Stanley Joh...
by Chester Perry
Fri Jul 03, 2020 2:40 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Wigan
Replies: 97
Views: 4465

Re: Wigan

The Times are saying that Parry has made an incredible faux pas by letting this out of the bag in this way

https://twitter.com/Lawton_Times/status ... 0848352257
by Chester Perry
Fri Jul 03, 2020 2:36 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Investor
Replies: 244
Views: 12699

Re: Investor

Must say Vegas that I cannot agree Point 1 - Dyche has agreed on all the major spend at the club and the reserves held to fund the academy going forward Point 2 - The American Investors at Palace have found the club to be a bit of a black hole as far as their money is concerned, there looks to be no...
by Chester Perry
Fri Jul 03, 2020 2:26 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 4579
Views: 352149

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Vegas Claret wrote:
Fri Jul 03, 2020 2:17 am
do we get a mention ? :D
no - the process of thought/analysis is very interesting and I fully understand why we were not mentioned
by Chester Perry
Fri Jul 03, 2020 1:56 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 4579
Views: 352149

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

A fascinating discussion from a few weeks back on the Tifo Football Podcast - Which Football Club Should You Buy? covers a lot more than just purchase of clubs 0 looks at players, scouts, coaches and Academies - i,e, it looks at the whole strategy for development of a club including looking at best ...
by Chester Perry
Fri Jul 03, 2020 1:52 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Investor
Replies: 244
Views: 12699

Re: Investor

Isn't that the point of the alleged investor? To put a "huge financial commitment" into the club? We had £42m in the bank as at June 2019 - can't imagine it's much more now. We can't make a huge financial commitment out of that, and it would be folly to go into debt with no hope of ever repaying it...
by Chester Perry
Fri Jul 03, 2020 12:55 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Investor
Replies: 244
Views: 12699

Re: Investor

The article hints at Middle Eastern rather than Gulf states Paul, so Saudi, Qatari etc are out which takes us back to the western side of the Middle East, so come on down, President Assad! ;) it also hints at not being a majority shareholding - there is a lot of stirring going on in the article too...
by Chester Perry
Fri Jul 03, 2020 12:40 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Investor
Replies: 244
Views: 12699

Re: Investor

you mean like Swansea ? or Hicks a Gillett at Liverpool nearly took the club to administration and tried flogging the club to a con artist, the pair at Palace have wanted out for some time too, then of course you have Randy Lerner at Villa (did well at first but ran out of cash, sold them to Chines...
by Chester Perry
Thu Jul 02, 2020 11:36 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Wigan
Replies: 97
Views: 4465

Re: Wigan

IF this story is true it shows just how far the game has sunk - from the Mail - Remember IEC own a Casino in the Phillipines EFL caught up in video storm after chief executive Rick Parry is secretly filmed linking Wigan Athletic's administration to 'a bet in the Philippines on them being relegated' ...
by Chester Perry
Thu Jul 02, 2020 11:32 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Guardian article on Dyche
Replies: 47
Views: 3083

Re: Guardian article on Dyche

There are several mentions on their message board "up the Cherries" about using the parachute money to pay off the owner. I think it's because they believe he wants it back rather than anyone wanting shut of him. I think relegation would be a disaster for Bournemouth. They're borrowed up to the hil...
by Chester Perry
Thu Jul 02, 2020 10:01 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Investor
Replies: 244
Views: 12699

Re: Investor

Thank you Chester, not quite what I was think but understand the similarities. I was thinking much more of a purely investment fund, not somewhere that did the good work the trust is doing, more specifically aligned to buying shares and having some representative. If shares are hard to come buy, wh...
by Chester Perry
Thu Jul 02, 2020 9:56 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Investor
Replies: 244
Views: 12699

Re: Investor

As mentioned above, the term investor indicates a person who puts up money in the hope of an increased return, but apart from the Glaziers does this ever happen? Venkys certainly haven't made a huge sum out of being investors in Blackburn Rovers. So the question that occurs is why would anyone wish...
by Chester Perry
Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:26 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 4579
Views: 352149

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

The detail on that Lords report calling for the end of Gambling sponsorship on Football shirts I posted about last night - includes links to the actual report https://committees.parliament.uk/committee/406/gambling-industry-committee/news/147122/time-to-act-to-reduce-gamblingrelated-harm-says-lords-...
by Chester Perry
Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:23 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Investor
Replies: 244
Views: 12699

Re: Investor

randomclaret2 wrote:
Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:12 pm
Maybe Mike Ashley will be looking for a new project if and when the Saudi deal goes ahead 😎
We would have even less to spend as our commercial Income would drop - a lot sponsorship would go to sport direct
by Chester Perry
Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:10 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Investor
Replies: 244
Views: 12699

Re: Investor

I'm sure the Qataries that owned psg were meant to be buying Leeds subject to their promotion. Imagine if they bought us instead and got us to the summit of the PL. Those horse botherers will be spitting venky chicken feathers :lol: we can all dream.... Close links between the Qataris who own BeIN ...
by Chester Perry
Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:06 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Wigan
Replies: 97
Views: 4465

Re: Wigan

There still appears to be a lot of confusion around the takeover and the owners - as this Guardian article suggests Brutal and bizarre: the story of how Wigan collapsed into administration On the day Au Yeung took ownership after a £41m purchase he decided not to fund the club, and an investigation ...
by Chester Perry
Thu Jul 02, 2020 5:01 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 4579
Views: 352149

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

And speaking of Derby County - the company formed to buy Pride Park from the club has an interesting report at Companies House https://twitter.com/KieranMaguire/status/1278690624779231235 I take it from this that the ground sale was a per exercise with no actual money changing hands - still they are...
by Chester Perry
Thu Jul 02, 2020 4:57 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 4579
Views: 352149

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Some interesting numbers from @KieranMaguire as he looks through the Championships 2018/19 finances - of course certain clubs still have to post thes accounts https://twitter.com/KieranMaguire/status/1278688124525256705 the standout is the second table showing a breakdown of average actual wage to t...
by Chester Perry
Thu Jul 02, 2020 3:39 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 4579
Views: 352149

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

@Marcotti takes his turn at looking at the complex issues involved in the proposed Saudi takeover of Newcastle Newcastle United sale to Saudi Arabia-led consortium: Why the stakes are so high Gabriele Marcotti - Senior Writer, ESPN FC A full three months have passed since Newcastle United and the Sa...
by Chester Perry
Thu Jul 02, 2020 3:32 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 4579
Views: 352149

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Simeone would be perfect but would he want it? Really? while I would have thought it would need an older universally respected head, I do not see Simeone as a perfect fit for Barcelona, or being the person to take down Messi a peg or two. It needs someone with the utter ruthlessness of Ferguson, bu...
by Chester Perry
Thu Jul 02, 2020 3:19 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Guardian article on Dyche
Replies: 47
Views: 3083

Re: Guardian article on Dyche

excellent post DSR
by Chester Perry
Thu Jul 02, 2020 3:01 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 4579
Views: 352149

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

In a growing relationship that is good for them but not so much for rights owners, BT and SKY for a new partnership to sell advertising - From SportsProMedia.com BT Sport and Sky strengthen ties with exclusive ad sales partnership Sky Media secures contract covering UK broadcaster’s TV channels and ...
by Chester Perry
Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:53 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 4579
Views: 352149

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

It is no surprise with new bidders continuing to emerge (and pushing the price up) that Serie A are taking their time to consider their options - from SportsBusiness.com Serie A to continue weighing up private equity offers Martin Ross - July 2, 2020 Italian football’s Lega Serie A has decided to co...