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- Wed Apr 17, 2024 10:41 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
True. I’m not sure how this differs from our previous investors who also wanted to, and did, benefit from massive profits. For now and the foreseeable I think it is being marketed as an asset investment based on capital growth rather than an income producing investment - the development of the mult...
- Wed Apr 17, 2024 10:39 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
- Replies: 12689
- Views: 1245111
Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
I don’t know if Justin is related but the Kuok family are one of the wealthiest in Malaysia. He is, his father 'Chye' Kuok Khoon Ho is the nephew of Robert Kuok the founder of the family's business Empire Justin is part of the third generation of the family and his interest in the club is some dist...
- Tue Apr 16, 2024 11:09 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
- Replies: 12689
- Views: 1245111
Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
No other info on his instagram page. I will surmise I don’t think any of these guys are billionaires, unfortunately. can you link that please It doesn't matter unless they want to buy Pace and co out in full - 'Co-owners' like these are just investors, who may be useful in a few areas as the core g...
- Tue Apr 16, 2024 10:49 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
- Replies: 12689
- Views: 1245111
Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Great research CP. Other names for you: Lorenzo Valceschini - looks to work at Stone Island Souley Wague Chris North Jean-Baptiste Roy - asiasportstech.com Huan Nguyen - looks to work for hypebeast which is a link Eugene Kan who also used to work there. So we have Lorenzo Valceschini https://it.lin...
- Tue Apr 16, 2024 7:25 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
- Replies: 12689
- Views: 1245111
Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
It is worthwhile adding to this thread the three new members of the ownership group discussed on the From The Bee Hole End Podcast thread over the weekend Eugene Kan https://hk.linkedin.com/in/eugenekan who had this to say about his involvement https://www.linkedin.com/posts/eugenekan_utc-activity-7...
- Tue Apr 16, 2024 7:00 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
- Replies: 12689
- Views: 1245111
Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Filings starting to appear at Companies House relating to the Accounts of Burnley FC Holdings Ltd (released on Easter Monday by the club https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/08335231/filing-history and Burnley Football and Athletic Club Limited https://find-and-update.c...
- Tue Apr 16, 2024 6:50 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
- Replies: 9966
- Views: 1007089
Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
The Guardian with a bit of additional info on that loan extension from MSP Capital to allow 777 Partners opportunity to find the funds - also includes the sum Everton are paying in interest on their loans each week - which is about the same that the average Championship club loses each week Everton ...
- Tue Apr 16, 2024 2:34 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
- Replies: 9966
- Views: 1007089
Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
The media are starting to catch on that traditional fanbases are slowly being squeezed out of attending the game from The Times How super-rich Premier League clubs are ‘squeezing fans dry’ Seven Premier League clubs offer season tickets at more than £1,000 and 17 of the 20 have increased prices – w...
- Tue Apr 16, 2024 1:51 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
- Replies: 9966
- Views: 1007089
Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
Part of me thinks MSP have taken this action because, their assuming control would require them to make a significant lump sum repayment to Rights and Media Funding together with the possibility of having to pay 777 Partners what they have loaned the club, which is a significant refinancing act whe...
- Tue Apr 16, 2024 1:26 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
- Replies: 9966
- Views: 1007089
Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
Absolutely zero surprise in this news - it is a common refrain from every story we have seen about 777 Partners - this is the group who said they had shown proof of funds to the Premier League last December from Sky News Everton FC bidder 777 seeks extra time amid race for funding 777 Partners has ...
- Mon Apr 15, 2024 10:59 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
- Replies: 9966
- Views: 1007089
Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
I thought this type of transaction to help with FFP/PSR had been banned with Aston Villa the last to benefit, but on reflection that might just be in regard to Stadium and Training Ground. Chelsea go all Barcelona and pull another financial lever From The Telegraph Chelsea owners sell hotels to ano...
- Mon Apr 15, 2024 10:49 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
- Replies: 9966
- Views: 1007089
Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
We should know the outcome of the Nottingham Forest appeal by the time we play them from The Athletic Nottingham Forest’s points deduction appeal hearing for PSR breach set for week beginning April 22 https://archive.ph/7UYdV The Premier League are also keen to get the now filed Everton appeal head...
- Mon Apr 15, 2024 11:04 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
- Replies: 9966
- Views: 1007089
Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
So if MSP insist on full payment today and 777 can't pay without another loan, MSP get the stadium ( and club) ? Would they have to pass the relevant tests re fit ownership ? If they were to become directors certainly, but the two Evertonians Andy Bell and George Downing, who were scheduled to join...
- Mon Apr 15, 2024 10:26 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
- Replies: 9966
- Views: 1007089
Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
there was a time when I would have celebrated this thread reaching 1 million views but the acceleration in the last year has convinced me that a a significant proportion are actually by bots, and since the public launch of AI tools there has been a real surge of views (up from around 2,000 a week to...
- Mon Apr 15, 2024 10:15 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
- Replies: 9966
- Views: 1007089
Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
It has been quite a while since I have posted anything about this, but the legal cases keep on going. However we have finally seen a change - it appears from an out of court agreement that FIFA have been persuaded to consider the rule about in season league games being played in alternative countri...
- Sun Apr 14, 2024 7:38 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Brilliant New Burnley Podcast
- Replies: 792
- Views: 67304
Re: Brilliant New Burnley Podcast
Interesting CP… post mentions the new talents and a certain Burnley-born fashion designer Aitor Throup. Could be in for very some interesting new merch if Aitor is involved. For the record, Aitor was born in Argentina and moved to Burnley when he was 12 - he has quite the track positive record and ...
- Sun Apr 14, 2024 6:05 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
- Replies: 9966
- Views: 1007089
Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
We should know the outcome of the Nottingham Forest appeal by the time we play them
from The Athletic
Nottingham Forest’s points deduction appeal hearing for PSR breach set for week beginning April 22
https://archive.ph/7UYdV
from The Athletic
Nottingham Forest’s points deduction appeal hearing for PSR breach set for week beginning April 22
https://archive.ph/7UYdV
- Sun Apr 14, 2024 5:26 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Brilliant New Burnley Podcast
- Replies: 792
- Views: 67304
Re: Brilliant New Burnley Podcast
On a bit of a segway from Merch, I have had a feeling that fan and the local community has been targeted to make up for the lack of commercial growth at the club since the takeover - so I have been looking at the sources of non tv income at BFC, and put together this table - it will be much more int...
- Sun Apr 14, 2024 5:15 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Brilliant New Burnley Podcast
- Replies: 792
- Views: 67304
Re: Brilliant New Burnley Podcast
Not before timeIghtenhill_Claret wrote: ↑Sun Apr 14, 2024 5:13 pmInteresting CP… post mentions the new talents and a certain Burnley-born fashion designer Aitor Throup. Could be in for very some interesting new merch if Aitor is involved.
- Sun Apr 14, 2024 5:13 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Brilliant New Burnley Podcast
- Replies: 792
- Views: 67304
Re: Brilliant New Burnley Podcast
Justin Kuok from the research I’ve been able to do. Also based in Hong Kong. Runs a family office. So that would be this chap then https://hk.linkedin.com/in/justin-kuok-b8a95625?challengeId=AQGggUIUUg31wwAAAY7dYGJzaG8c6p2_Ct1LdFXyVW-8YQMmScVeb68sazByewMWabECzULoXfkqvdqzI5kwZkpnz2esYaxf4A&submissio...
- Sun Apr 14, 2024 5:08 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Brilliant New Burnley Podcast
- Replies: 792
- Views: 67304
Re: Brilliant New Burnley Podcast
From what I can tell it is Jean Baptiste Roy brought all six of those in the photo with Kompany to the ALK/VSL party
https://hk.linkedin.com/in/jeanbaptiste ... din.com%2F
https://hk.linkedin.com/in/jeanbaptiste ... din.com%2F
- Sun Apr 14, 2024 4:46 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Brilliant New Burnley Podcast
- Replies: 792
- Views: 67304
Re: Brilliant New Burnley Podcast
How many "owners" do we have now?! the same as before it is ALK/VSL, just more have joined that group, it is the same people in charge and making the key decisions - I noticed that Adrian Bettridge was sat next to Alan Pace at the game yesterday, you rarely see him mentioned but he appears quite in...
- Sun Apr 14, 2024 4:42 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Brilliant New Burnley Podcast
- Replies: 792
- Views: 67304
Re: Brilliant New Burnley Podcast
So the Sean that Eugene Kan is referring to is a chap called Sean Wong https://hk.linkedin.com/in/sean-wong-3a28028?trk=public_profile_browsemap-profile - I am assuming that the Justin is not Trudeau but not placed a name yet Sean has a link to this on his LinkedIN page another piece about the same ...
- Sun Apr 14, 2024 10:04 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: A movie title for BFC this season
- Replies: 90
- Views: 1735
Re: A movie title for BFC this season
The Dallas one seems appropriate given it is our 9th Premier League seasonChester Perry wrote: ↑Sun Apr 14, 2024 9:55 amI am hoping it is
Pay it Forward or even the 9th season of Dallas - Pamela Ewings's dream year where Bobby does/doesn't die
but at times it feels like
The Illusionist
- Sun Apr 14, 2024 9:55 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: A movie title for BFC this season
- Replies: 90
- Views: 1735
Re: A movie title for BFC this season
I am hoping it is
Pay it Forward or even the 9th season of Dallas - Pamela Ewings's dream year where Bobby does/doesn't die
but at times it feels like
The Illusionist
Pay it Forward or even the 9th season of Dallas - Pamela Ewings's dream year where Bobby does/doesn't die
but at times it feels like
The Illusionist
- Sun Apr 14, 2024 9:49 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
- Replies: 9966
- Views: 1007089
Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
I thought this type of transaction to help with FFP/PSR had been banned with Aston Villa the last to benefit, but on reflection that might just be in regard to Stadium and Training Ground. Chelsea go all Barcelona and pull another financial lever From The Telegraph Chelsea owners sell hotels to ano...
- Sat Apr 13, 2024 1:04 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Brilliant New Burnley Podcast
- Replies: 792
- Views: 67304
Re: Brilliant New Burnley Podcast
We had a previous owner who sold Turf Moor and the training ground to a company based in a tax haven and kept it secret for months until I stumbled across it on a company database. And even after that came out there was just a bland statement. Very few clubs are open about their finances beyond the...
- Sat Apr 13, 2024 12:52 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Brilliant New Burnley Podcast
- Replies: 792
- Views: 67304
Re: Brilliant New Burnley Podcast
I doubt many fans knew what a horrendous financial position we were in before the play off final in 2009, yet we were on the verge of administration. Flood and Co. seemed to escape any scrutiny despite nearly running us off a cliff edge! there is little doubt that the hardships of that decade (and ...
- Sat Apr 13, 2024 12:42 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
- Replies: 9966
- Views: 1007089
Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
I thought this type of transaction to help with FFP/PSR had been banned with Aston Villa the last to benefit, but on reflection that might just be in regard to Stadium and Training Ground. Chelsea go all Barcelona and pull another financial lever From The Telegraph Chelsea owners sell hotels to anot...
- Fri Apr 12, 2024 6:18 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Brilliant New Burnley Podcast
- Replies: 792
- Views: 67304
Re: Brilliant New Burnley Podcast
Interesting comment on FABs regarding the members being cherry picked and toothlessness nature of some 'where fans are impressed to be having tea with the chairman and nit challenging'. Reading the minutes of BFC's that rings true. the one Maguire was specifically referencing appears to be Arsenal ...
- Fri Apr 12, 2024 5:45 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Netflix / Prime recommendations
- Replies: 571
- Views: 64423
Re: Netflix / Prime recommendations
I have done the first couple of episodes of Ripley, it is a bit of a grind, but I keep believing that it is going to be worth it
- Fri Apr 12, 2024 5:41 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
- Replies: 9966
- Views: 1007089
Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
Some more on this from The Telegraph Fresh Everton takeover concern as 777 Partners scrambles to fund purchase Hopes of an imminent takeover at Goodison Park are receding amid worries over 777’s ability to raise cash https://archive.ph/zA5aw 777 Partners scramble for new loans to complete the takeo...
- Fri Apr 12, 2024 5:36 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
- Replies: 9966
- Views: 1007089
Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
Looks like myself who will be 80 in October and just given up my season ticket after just 1 game last season and none this season will now be able to watch all mid week games next season if we are relegated. Very pleased for you and others in similar situations that this will be the case - potentia...
- Fri Apr 12, 2024 3:56 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
- Replies: 9966
- Views: 1007089
Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
Posted last years up the page on Tuesday this weekQuickenthetempo wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2024 3:47 pmhttps://twitter.com/ALANMYERSMEDIA/stat ... 64g2A&s=19
Some shocking agent fees.
Looks like we have spent over 10m in two years on agent fees.
4m in the last accounts then nearly 7m Feb to Feb.
- Fri Apr 12, 2024 3:29 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
- Replies: 9966
- Views: 1007089
Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
I am far from sure that is a good thingVegas Claret wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2024 2:55 pmI hope so - not sure how any club expects to grow a foreign fan base if the games can't be watched. You got a nice shout out on the Beehole podcast btw
- Fri Apr 12, 2024 3:23 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
- Replies: 9966
- Views: 1007089
Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
The Esk with Part 2 of is assessment of Everton's Accounts Part II – Everton Football Club Company Limited Annual Report and Accounts 2022/23 https://theesk.org/2024/04/02/part-ii-everton-football-club-company-limited-annual-report-and-accounts-2022-23/ https://archive.ph/1NFWH The Esk with the thi...
- Fri Apr 12, 2024 2:42 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
- Replies: 9966
- Views: 1007089
Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
that absolutely sucks - so if I'm reading it correctly then there is no guaranteed live coverage of the weekend Championship games meaning those of us abroad can no longer watch the game. edit: Sounds like this is for the UK domestic market, not sure how it will work for those abroad I read it as i...
- Fri Apr 12, 2024 2:41 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
- Replies: 9966
- Views: 1007089
Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
Many don't have sympathy with the Premier League over the £533m they give away to the English game each season and are demanding more, particularly the EFL, the organisation that once turned down the share of revenues it is now seeking. Those same people are almost universally in support of the prop...
- Fri Apr 12, 2024 1:57 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
- Replies: 9966
- Views: 1007089
Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
Some interesting changes to EFL TV coverage next season under it's new deal with Sky, it sounds like games are going to be much easier easier to view from a single provider if you cannot get to the actual match from The Athletic Sky Sports’ new EFL TV deal to bring an end to streaming service iFollo...
- Fri Apr 12, 2024 1:36 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Brilliant New Burnley Podcast
- Replies: 792
- Views: 67304
Re: Brilliant New Burnley Podcast
Yeah they certainly spent a lot. The initial video which they put out was orchestrated by Saatchi and Saatchi and wasn't cheap (for what was a simple interview video). This was filmed a few weeks before the takeover was completed so there was clearly a bit of money available at that point. it makes...
- Fri Apr 12, 2024 1:25 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Brilliant New Burnley Podcast
- Replies: 792
- Views: 67304
Re: Brilliant New Burnley Podcast
Thanks CP! It's definitely our intention to do a few more 'deep dive' type episodes. We're working on getting some experts on different issues/subjects. I've not revisited his first presser for a while so definitely something to do. Interesting to note that ALK and Pace were being advised by Saatch...
- Fri Apr 12, 2024 1:16 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
- Replies: 9966
- Views: 1007089
Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
so I feel like I have been posting about this for around 4 years now, but it is edging ever closer from The Guardian Clubs agree to cap spending on players as part of Premier League PSR reform New rules could be tried out in shadow form next season Full reform of profitability and sustainability ru...
- Fri Apr 12, 2024 12:45 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
- Replies: 9966
- Views: 1007089
Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
Sadly, this is not a surprise Three years on, Football Index users are still trying to get their money back Some customers had five- or six-figure sums trapped when it collapsed in 2021 and say the site was not regulated properly https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2024/mar/25/three-years-on-...
- Fri Apr 12, 2024 12:30 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: The Lost Art of Not Knowing Things
- Replies: 22
- Views: 1904
Re: The Lost Art of Not Knowing Things
More importantly, being aware of that ignorance, and as such not proffering opinions about subjects you do not have a grasp on. I ask potentially stupid questions professionally, at least as part of my job, and it doesn't half take some getting used to to get past the fear of looking like an idiot....
- Fri Apr 12, 2024 12:27 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Brilliant New Burnley Podcast
- Replies: 792
- Views: 67304
Re: Brilliant New Burnley Podcast
Another good one I will say, on reflection, that I concur with Woody and claretpete on here that there is a danger in people giving what I say to much credence in terms of being absolute truth - particularly when I am not able to produce supporting evidence, though even then others with knowledge an...
- Fri Apr 12, 2024 10:37 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
- Replies: 9966
- Views: 1007089
Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
Paris FC take Fortuna Düsseldorf's free ticket experiment in a new direction from The New York Times A Soccer Team Stopped Charging for Tickets. Should Others Do the Same? When Paris F.C. made its tickets free, it began an experiment into the connection between fans and teams, and posed a question ...
- Fri Apr 12, 2024 10:22 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
- Replies: 9966
- Views: 1007089
Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
The money behind Everton's long time funding partner - Rights and Media Funding - has long been obscured though it was believed to have arrived in this country from offshore by Everton fan Paul Quinn, better known as The Esk, who I also mentioned the name of Michael Tabor, I believe. As I start to g...
- Thu Apr 11, 2024 6:39 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
- Replies: 9966
- Views: 1007089
Re: Football's Magic Money Tree
so I feel like I have been posting about this for around 4 years now, but it is edging ever closer from The Guardian Clubs agree to cap spending on players as part of Premier League PSR reform New rules could be tried out in shadow form next season Full reform of profitability and sustainability rul...
- Thu Apr 11, 2024 3:47 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Brilliant New Burnley Podcast
- Replies: 792
- Views: 67304
Re: Brilliant New Burnley Podcast
I think a big factor in that mindset that sometimes goes unnoticed is the strength of the US dollar in recent years, especially against the £. US capital has been snapping up UK companies with that discount priced in so that might explain why ALK thought they were getting the club at a decent price...
- Thu Apr 11, 2024 3:46 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Brilliant New Burnley Podcast
- Replies: 792
- Views: 67304
Re: Brilliant New Burnley Podcast
They think they bought Burnley at a cheap price. There has been a strange consensus among American investors in the game that English and European clubs are 'under-valued'. This seems to be because they compare PL club's values to those of the NFL franchises. But of course there are a ton of reason...