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by Chester Perry
Thu Mar 28, 2024 8:12 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 9881
Views: 980889

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Part Two of 'The men who want to buy English football clubs' features a name familiar to this thread from The Athletic ‘Under every rock, we found a lie’: How the bid to be English football’s first black owner unravelled In the second of our series about the men who want to buy English football clu...
by Chester Perry
Thu Mar 28, 2024 8:04 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 9881
Views: 980889

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Somehow I missed this when it happened last week - Ipswich town owners sell a 40% stake in the club for £105m - valuing the club at £262.5m - to an American Private Equity Group CLUB STATEMENT | BRIGHT PATH SPORTS PARTNERS https://www.itfc.co.uk/news/2024/march/22/press-release-bright-path-sports/
by Chester Perry
Wed Mar 27, 2024 8:53 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 9881
Views: 980889

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

The Esk with a piece to follow up the detail of those conditions outlined in Josimar, he reminds us that hey actually formed part of the conditions 6 months ago as well, it is the hard deadline that is new - though it appears that Rights and Media Funding are not pushing for their money now as they...
by Chester Perry
Wed Mar 27, 2024 5:28 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Season tickets next season
Replies: 731
Views: 43674

Re: Season tickets next season

It’s been a truly woeful season. The club could write the book on how to systematically take apart the good feeling and good will. Those price increases for kids and concessions are outrageous. There are a lot of unhappy customers. they have done a TV show about it instead - but will it ever be air...
by Chester Perry
Wed Mar 27, 2024 5:14 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 9881
Views: 980889

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

The hope was that the Football Governance Bill would go through the process and be approved uickly, however we keep hearing of possible amendments that are likely to be popular with certain voters in an election year, which could actually delay the process. From The Telegraph MPs want to force Premi...
by Chester Perry
Wed Mar 27, 2024 3:24 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Season tickets next season
Replies: 731
Views: 43674

Re: Season tickets next season

Just been reading this about Season Ticket price increases at Manchester City the changes we are seeing at Turf Moor are widespread in the game - that does not give reason to follow the herd though, our club's owners made a point of telling us that they would be different, their approach to running ...
by Chester Perry
Wed Mar 27, 2024 3:05 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 9881
Views: 980889

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

A new series of five articles (over five days) looking at 'The men who want to buy English football clubs' - first up fraudster Chris Kirchner, from The Athletic The $25m fraudster who came so close to buying an English football club In the first of our series about the men who want to buy English ...
by Chester Perry
Wed Mar 27, 2024 2:41 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Season tickets next season
Replies: 731
Views: 43674

Re: Season tickets next season

They've called it 'Together We Are One' - that is, of course as long as you are not under-22 or over-65. Could just mean that they envisage a time when one price fits all it felt inevitable that the concessions were going to be hardest hit, it means the PR headlines can focus just on the Adult pric...
by Chester Perry
Mon Mar 25, 2024 9:15 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: HAPPY MONDAY!. FOREST, points deduction?
Replies: 142
Views: 9740

Re: HAPPY MONDAY!. FOREST, points deduction?

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:
Mon Mar 25, 2024 8:55 pm
I’m sure we had a midfielder years ago who had his suspension increased after a ‘frivolous appeal’ against his red card!!
that is the FA - they still have that in their rule books, it is the only type of frivolous appeal penalty that I am aware of in English Football
by Chester Perry
Mon Mar 25, 2024 7:55 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: HAPPY MONDAY!. FOREST, points deduction?
Replies: 142
Views: 9740

Re: HAPPY MONDAY!. FOREST, points deduction?

I read somewhere that if appealed there was a chance the points deduction could be increased. No idea if that’s true, but I think it should be possible to prevent frivolous appeals. CP may know more on whether a points increase is a possibility at appeal. I am not aware of any penalty for a frivolo...
by Chester Perry
Mon Mar 25, 2024 6:08 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 9881
Views: 980889

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Earlier this week it transpired that Chelsea's new owners had reported the club themselves (again) for financial shenanigans under the Abramovich era - this time regarding the transfers of Willian and Samuel Eto'o (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/67270626) and a number of payments out of Russi...
by Chester Perry
Mon Mar 25, 2024 4:02 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: so come May teams might be relegated then re-instated !!!
Replies: 9
Views: 1105

Re: so come May teams might be relegated then re-instated !!!

The Premier league is more corrupt than Blatter rules ignored or in Evertons case manipulated by smart barristers are you talking about the Premier League - the business, or the Premier League - the members organisation of 20 clubs, each operating at the whim of mostly billionaire owners who are no...
by Chester Perry
Mon Mar 25, 2024 3:42 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Season tickets next season
Replies: 731
Views: 43674

Re: Season tickets next season

randomclaret2 wrote:
Mon Mar 25, 2024 3:40 pm
Denise Coates has earned in excess of £1 billion in the last 4 years alone ( that's Billion, not Million ) . Whatever percentage of that allows season ticket prices to be frozen year on year is a drop in the ocean
she also pays her taxes
by Chester Perry
Mon Mar 25, 2024 3:41 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: so come May teams might be relegated then re-instated !!!
Replies: 9
Views: 1105

Re: so come May teams might be relegated then re-instated !!!

Latest on the fiasco : "So, we are still heading for a situation where we could have games on the final day of the season and we won't be sure what the bottom of the Premier League looks like because we won't have had the final decisions about these possible points deductions for Everton and Nottin...
by Chester Perry
Mon Mar 25, 2024 10:12 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 9881
Views: 980889

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Interesting piece on Leicester and why they are stalling the process on their charges around breaching financial rules - features significant input from the new guy on the football finance block - Stefan Borson, who I think offers much sounder assessments than Kieran Maguire - maybe because he actua...
by Chester Perry
Mon Mar 25, 2024 9:27 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 9881
Views: 980889

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

A new series of five articles (over five days) looking at 'The men who want to buy English football clubs' - first up fraudster Chris Kirchner, from The Athletic The $25m fraudster who came so close to buying an English football club In the first of our series about the men who want to buy English f...
by Chester Perry
Mon Mar 25, 2024 8:55 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 9881
Views: 980889

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Sadly, this is not a surprise Three years on, Football Index users are still trying to get their money back Some customers had five- or six-figure sums trapped when it collapsed in 2021 and say the site was not regulated properly https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2024/mar/25/three-years-on-f...
by Chester Perry
Sun Mar 24, 2024 7:35 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: James Trafford England call up
Replies: 194
Views: 8139

Re: James Trafford England call up

I read this earlier this week, an argument that he may be going to the Euros this summer - for the experience

from The Athletic

Assessing England’s Euro 2024 goalkeepers: Pickford a certainty, but who else?
https://archive.ph/6zp6K
by Chester Perry
Sun Mar 24, 2024 4:15 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 9881
Views: 980889

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

In their 18th article on the proposed takeover of Everton by 777 Partners Philippe Auclair and Paul Brown reveal the conditions that the Premier League have set for their approval of the takeover. 777 Partners also have another new court case from Josimar Football Conditional access The good news f...
by Chester Perry
Sun Mar 24, 2024 3:47 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 9881
Views: 980889

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Sam Wallace on the hypocrisy of Leicester (and the others) fighting against FFP/PSR and other rules they voted to bring in. Sadly there is no mention of past issues with Leicester just the glory of their Premier League title and the difficulty of finding unknowns like Kante and Mahrez in the multi-c...
by Chester Perry
Sun Mar 24, 2024 10:15 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 9881
Views: 980889

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

International breaks tend to leave content thin on the ground for the international sports media, that is why you end up getting opinion based reports like this that pose as some kind of deep analysis, when they reflect a particular moment in time and their is little parity of pricing across the lea...
by Chester Perry
Sun Mar 24, 2024 8:39 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 9881
Views: 980889

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

I am trying to play catch up on my podcasts - Last week the Price of Football did a special podcast looking into tax in football, if you are a bit geeky about football finance, it is an interesting listen, Interview: Football tax adviser Tony Bogod on how much clubs pay in tax Kevin speaks to footb...
by Chester Perry
Sun Mar 24, 2024 8:32 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 9881
Views: 980889

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

I am trying to play catch up on my podcasts - Last week the Price of Football did a special podcast looking into tax in football, if you are a bit geeky about football finance, it is an interesting listen, Interview: Football tax adviser Tony Bogod on how much clubs pay in tax Kevin speaks to footba...
by Chester Perry
Sat Mar 23, 2024 11:00 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 9881
Views: 980889

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

It is an issue I have been posting about for a long time and it seems it is only going to become more apparent. I am interested how proposals for 'anchoring' as part of the Premier Leagues new fiscal rules would deal with this additional income boost for Champions League clubs from The Times Champio...
by Chester Perry
Sat Mar 23, 2024 10:08 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 9881
Views: 980889

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Well this may come as a bit of a surprise, though as the article admits - it does not mean that the deal will be accepted - the conditions may be regarded as to much by 777 Partners, even designed to be, that would tally with my take on the situation from earlier in the week. It is just politically...
by Chester Perry
Sat Mar 23, 2024 6:26 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 9881
Views: 980889

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Today's Scorecard column in the Financial Times has a take on the prospective Independent Football Regulator (has IReF been discarded, it seemed so tritely perfect) Can a watchdog fix English football? https://archive.ph/UBv8e Will England’s football regulator root out bad owners? Rishi Sunak, Brit...
by Chester Perry
Sat Mar 23, 2024 5:59 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 9881
Views: 980889

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Today's Scorecard column in the Financial Times has a take on the prospective Independent Football Regulator (has IReF been discarded, it seemed so tritely perfect) Can a watchdog fix English football? https://archive.ph/UBv8e Will England’s football regulator root out bad owners? Rishi Sunak, Brita...
by Chester Perry
Sat Mar 23, 2024 5:09 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 9881
Views: 980889

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

It looks like UEFA have given up on trying to legislate against multi-club organisations - the lack of announcement on this reminds me of The FA giving up on Rule 34 from 1983 onwards - starting with Irving Scholars bid to launch Tottenham on the stock market - In UEFA's case it is Article 5 that wi...
by Chester Perry
Sat Mar 23, 2024 1:30 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 9881
Views: 980889

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

you may have missed it but it has been big news in Spain all week - Luis Rubiales from President of the Spanish Football Federation, disgraced for forcing himself on Spain's women's team captain at the World Cup is under serious criminal investigation. this kind of thing is so common place this cent...
by Chester Perry
Sat Mar 23, 2024 1:21 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 9881
Views: 980889

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Odd that Leicester should be accused of breaching financial rules. Indeed, they are usually ahead of them, as the EFL found out once again in court a few weeks ago. as I have said previously, this is likely the 3rd time that the financial rules will be changed because of Leicester's actions circumv...
by Chester Perry
Sat Mar 23, 2024 1:17 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 9881
Views: 980889

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Well this may come as a bit of a surprise, though as the article admits - it does not mean that the deal will be accepted - the conditions may be regarded as to much by 777 Partners, even designed to be, that would tally with my take on the situation from earlier in the week. It is just politically ...
by Chester Perry
Fri Mar 22, 2024 6:51 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 9881
Views: 980889

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Every time we see issues about competitive balance and new iterations/versions of FFP there are always a few posters who state the need for salary caps - UEFA recently came to a similar conclusion, though that has now been shutdown by the European Courts - which is hardly a surprise from The Times C...
by Chester Perry
Fri Mar 22, 2024 5:29 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 9881
Views: 980889

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Leicester have been formally charged by the Premier League for PSR breach from The BBC Leicester City: Premier League charges Championship club with alleged breaches of financial rules https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/68580638 Leicester take their chutzpah and stroppiness to a new level from Th...
by Chester Perry
Fri Mar 22, 2024 7:28 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 9881
Views: 980889

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

So this is interesting in light of my posting over the life of this thread and indeed over the last few days from The Telegraph Foreign state ownership of football clubs to be challenged by Peer The government plans to ban foreign states from owning newspapers while allowing them to purchase footbal...
by Chester Perry
Thu Mar 21, 2024 8:02 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 9881
Views: 980889

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Villa agree a new shirt sponsor deal for the next two seasons - the last allowing Vetting sponsors, I would think that £20m a year represents a significant uplift from their current deal, my guess is between 80% and 100% from The Telegraph Aston Villa agree £40m shirt sponsorship deal with Greek onl...
by Chester Perry
Thu Mar 21, 2024 6:49 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 9881
Views: 980889

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Am I the only one who thinks that Leicester are getting too much sympathetic press, for overstretching, particularly as there is no mention of their past history of dodging the consequences of their extravagances from the Guardian Leicester’s financial plight shaped by aftermath of FA Cup triumph C...
by Chester Perry
Thu Mar 21, 2024 2:02 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 9881
Views: 980889

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Hi Chester, I've read your postings with interest over the weeks, months, even years(??!!) - many thanks for all your efforts - and just wondering what your feelings with you having followed the money (so to speak) for so long. If I may, I'd be interested in your thoughts on the following; 1. What ...
by Chester Perry
Thu Mar 21, 2024 10:55 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 9881
Views: 980889

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

I always find these columns from Jason Stockwood very interesting and thoughtful, I don't always agree with him, but he is absolutely right to argue that football is inherently political, a point I have been making for years from The Guardian Plans for regulator illustrate inherently political natur...
by Chester Perry
Thu Mar 21, 2024 10:46 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 9881
Views: 980889

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

The changes in ticketing policy and price banding at English top flight football clubs has been accelerating in recent times, most of it has been telegraphed for some time yet it still catches people by surprise, greater emphasis needs to be placed on pre-empting such moves from our clubs rather th...
by Chester Perry
Wed Mar 20, 2024 6:54 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 9881
Views: 980889

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

S&P Global take a lengthy and detailed look at the rapidly changing and growing asset class of sports investment Sports ownership shifts from trophy asset to lucrative investment https://www.spglobal.com/marketintelligence/en/news-insights/research/sports-ownership-shifts-from-trophy-asset-to-lucra...
by Chester Perry
Wed Mar 20, 2024 4:55 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 9881
Views: 980889

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

S&P Global take a lengthy and detailed look at the rapidly changing and growing asset class of sports investment Sports ownership shifts from trophy asset to lucrative investment https://www.spglobal.com/marketintelligence/en/news-insights/research/sports-ownership-shifts-from-trophy-asset-to-lucrat...
by Chester Perry
Wed Mar 20, 2024 2:17 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 9881
Views: 980889

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Unofficial Partner have started a new series looking at Saudi investment in sport - as always it is good, the first episode can be heard now - fascinating stuff UP381 The Saudi Question, pt1 https://www.unofficialpartner.com/podcast/episode/7c2bd451/up381-the-saudi-question-pt1 the blurb nofficial P...
by Chester Perry
Wed Mar 20, 2024 1:09 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Next seasons kit manufacturer - Castore
Replies: 86
Views: 4734

Re: Next seasons kit manufacturer - Castore

NewClaret wrote:
Wed Mar 20, 2024 12:45 pm
Crikey, there’s a guy with a track record of longevity!
It doesn't take much to know that 777 Partners football operations are on a dodgy footing - loads have left that side of the operation
by Chester Perry
Wed Mar 20, 2024 1:07 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 9881
Views: 980889

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Another rant by Martin Samuel about a new iteration of FFP - which he wedges is obsession with Mbappe (a phenomenal talent who has not shown himself to be a great team performer, which is crucial in the Premier League) and an element that has not been talked of much - Anchoring - where the big club...
by Chester Perry
Wed Mar 20, 2024 12:24 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Next seasons kit manufacturer - Castore
Replies: 86
Views: 4734

Re: Next seasons kit manufacturer - Castore

NewClaret wrote:
Wed Mar 20, 2024 11:23 am
Oh god, out of the frying pan and in to the fire there then!

But yes, that was who I was referring to.
He has left 777 Partners too - Now at Saracens Rugby

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by Chester Perry
Wed Mar 20, 2024 11:33 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Next seasons kit manufacturer - Castore
Replies: 86
Views: 4734

Re: Next seasons kit manufacturer - Castore

There’s an article online saying we’d signed a deal with Umbro until 2026?! Good and bad news if true. Bad: - From what I’ve seen Castore kits are quite plain and boring - Quality issues reported although you’d expect they might’ve resolved them next year. Good: - I think they do some miles better/...
by Chester Perry
Wed Mar 20, 2024 11:20 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Next seasons kit manufacturer - Castore
Replies: 86
Views: 4734

Re: Next seasons kit manufacturer - Castore

That could quite possibly be wrong and I’m sure all contract extensions have exit clauses. There seems to be enough people in the know saying it’s Castore now and I’m sure there was some link to Castore via an ex Exec so that would make sense? Although Castore seem to have a bad reputation I’m all ...
by Chester Perry
Tue Mar 19, 2024 10:36 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Season tickets next season
Replies: 731
Views: 43674

Re: Season tickets next season

The problem being of course there are 12 boxes to tick on that list and 22 members, but those 12 categories do not have equal volumes among the fanbase, either total or STH. So that means there could be, say, 10000 fans in one category and only 1-2 reps on the FAB catering for that demographic. If ...
by Chester Perry
Tue Mar 19, 2024 6:13 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Season tickets next season
Replies: 731
Views: 43674

Re: Season tickets next season

Or tactically approached Burnley fans with social media followings to get them on side and create positive PR. I wouldnt mind seeing their ages as well. I dont know them all but seems like its quite a young age range. the BFC statement on it says different The Fan Advisory Board currently consists ...
by Chester Perry
Tue Mar 19, 2024 5:10 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 9881
Views: 980889

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

the high level subject matter of this 16th article from Philippe Auclair and Paul Brown on the proposed 777 Partners takeover of Everton, is one I have been waiting for since the deal was announced. yet another legal case against 777 Partners/Josh )"I get sued a lot" Wander from Josimar Football Th...