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Greenmile

Sounds terrible when it's worded like that but to put it in perspective were the rubber bullets fired before or after police stations and vehicles were torched and shops looted. Would you have them stand aside as spectators . They were warned. Not really anything to do with the point I’m making, bu...

Greenmile

Yes there is. Protestors would be declared 'racist' in the usual 'shut them up and put a halt to any honest debate' tactic, and ANTIFA would start smashing things (and people) up. Protestors (and black journalists covering the protests) in the US are being arrested, shot with rubber bullets, pepper...

Greenmile

Hapag Lloyd wrote: ↑
Tue Jun 02, 2020 7:37 am
So a terrorist group or groups then ?

As much a terrorist group as the Stonewall rioters, the Suffragettes, or the Civil rights movement.

Greenmile

Plenty of names (though admittedly, I've never heard of them) in this article https://quillette.com/2019/05/29/its-not-your-imagination-the-journalists-writing-about-antifa-are-often-their-cheerleaders/ That looks like it’s just a list of journalists who are sympathetic to the antifa cause (ie anti...

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I dont think all members are anti fascist. If they were they wouldn't be beating up people they disagree with would they? Not sure either how not having an office or a CEO excuses them from criticism. Pretty sure the alt-right dont have membership cards, if that's your argument The alt-right is vag...

Greenmile

Caballo wrote: ↑
Mon Jun 01, 2020 1:32 pm
Not as smart as you obviously like to think you are, still one out of two's not a bad.

Brexit and UKIP?

Greenmile

I think this thread is referring to antifa as opposed to actual anti-fascism That’s a fair point. If you don’t think antifa are actual anti-fascists, what are they, exactly? Just all violent folk who you / Trump / the alt-right disagree with politically? (NB - those are either / or options. I’m not...

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The problem with antifa, and many other of these organisations is the hangers on. There is a well meaning message that gets lost because of hangers on looking for a riot. Im happy to listen to the message, but the looters and trouble makers need locking up. Democracy demands you make your argument ...

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I thought you were being a bit of a drama queen when I read this, so I searched for the definition of facism and found this IMG_20200601_132234.jpg Turns out you are right You should probably have googled fascism instead of “facism”. To be serious for a minute, Antifa is not a terrorist organisatio...

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Lots of anti-anti-fascists* on this thread

* - that seems like a bit of a mouthful. There must be a simpler way of putting it. Any ideas, anyone?

Greenmile

Innocent until proved otherwise White coppers filmed murdering a black man (again) - “Innocent until proved otherwise” Angry black citizens looting and rioting - “I hope they feel the full force of the US police department” (ie - I hope they are murdered, too) It’s almost like you’re wanting to tre...

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Bfcboyo wrote: ↑
Sat May 30, 2020 8:10 am
The Shining and Doctor Strange both good.

Doctor Strange? The Marvel film?

Or did you mean Doctor Sleep (the sequel to The Shining)?

Greenmile

I think he covered some interesting dynamics while at the same time condemning the police officers in question. Has this poster got a track record of racism? If he hasn't your post was out of order as previously suggested. How many times does someone have to espouse racist opinions before we can ca...

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Totally out of order. He is stating his opinion on how he sees things. Nothing racist in that. If you disagree put up an argument don’t hide behind your keyboard and abuse folk. And I’m stating my opinion that he comes across as a racist victim-blamer, and his assertion that “you don’t live here so...

Greenmile

Arachnophobia.

But that’s probably because I suffer from arachnophobia.

Greenmile

Having lived in the UK and shared your opinion only to later move to the USA I'll say the media coverage of these incidents only covers one side of the story and only on a case by case basis. When you look at the bigger picture and the divide in the country you realise that both sides need to coope...

Greenmile

Has the “bickering” been deleted from the closed thread or do I have a very different understanding of the word from the OP’s?

Greenmile

I don't think I disagree with any of that My problem moving on, is the people who are arguing... Well he did wrong, so I will.... I've no problem if somebody drives 300 miles for childcare, in similar circumstances, but to use his actions as an excuse for not isolating when asked to ( no problem if...

Greenmile

They were asked to look into the whole incident If it was an offence, it would have been a continuing offence, some would say the further from home you got, the more serious it would have been. I just cannot believe the people on here, who try to portray their intelligence to us all on a daily, if ...

Greenmile

Why? Iam not interested, it was you asking. The police say its lawful, that's it for me. Does the Durham police force have any jurisdiction over a journey that started in London? This is a genuine question - I’m not trying to catch you out. Maybe that’s why they used the slightly strange term “loca...

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The police, if they stopped you, would be to check whether you were breaking the law or not. When they found that you had left the house to arrange childcare, they would let you carry on. They would be highly unlikely to stop you anyway because millions of children have carte blanche to travel the ...

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Imagine if at the start of this the public were able to stick to the guidelines, the “lockdown” wouldn’t of happened. But no, a huge amount of people ignored it and the government had to assume that nobody had any common sense. We then found the same people went nuts because the government didn’t c...

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Damo wrote: ↑
Thu May 28, 2020 9:50 pm
Hence my facetious reply. Its "Tricky" by the way

https://www.dictionary.com/browse/tricksy

Every day’s a school day.

Greenmile

I dont suppose stayingup gets paid millions of pounds of tax payers money per year, by a corporation that stipulates its front line employees remain politically impartial (I dont know this for certain. I know how you like my posts to be 100% factual) It's kind of like you stating, anyone who has ma...

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Feels like a lot of the questions were worded in such a way as to force people down and left, and I would contend that some of the results posted above back this up. I’m less surprised by my results than some of yours, though (looking at you, Rowls)

Greenmile

Question many might ask is why does he feel he has in what has become the BBC way preach ro us or whoever might listen to this dullard about politics? Hes a very well paid sports presenter and should stick ro that. If he wants to preach politics he should get on the hustings. Personally I dont like...

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Kinnock drove to his parents to celebrate a birthday by sitting by the front door and eating cake - he then tried to pretend he was delivering food before, facing the evidence on Twitter, accepted he’d got it wrong. Starmer has been leader of Labour since 4th April, Kinnock was at his parents the w...

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Damo wrote: ↑
Thu May 28, 2020 8:02 pm
Why would i tell the papers?
I posted it on clarets mad. I dont suppose they will be interested that you lost your sh*t over it.

That bit was sarcasm, Damo. Sorry for confusing you again with tricksy language.

Greenmile

Grumps wrote: ↑
Thu May 28, 2020 7:53 pm
I only quoted your post because it was a reply to mine about the press

Ok. I think I understand now. I'm allowed to still care, but the press aren't.

What's the statute of limitations for them? or do you decide on a case-by-case basis?

Greenmile

I'm working on the basis that people are generally not convicted of anything, based on what the police think might have happened So when you said "he didn't break the rules", you actually meant "he's not been convicted of anything"? Well, that's a stunning revelation. Have you told the papers yet?

Greenmile

If you read my post it was about the press, not you Even they don't talk about Blair or Campbell anymore, and that's not even on the same planet as a drive to a town in the North East. Sorry, but when you quoted my post and said (in part) "But, carry on flogging that dead horse ", I presumed you we...

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There doesn’t need to be any defence - he went on an unnecessary drive to Barnard Castle, he thought it was and police would have asked him to go home. In the same way that Kinnock and Ali thought they were right. What is getting feebler and more transparent is that this was purely a political oppo...

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It's been a week ffs, Do you actually think anything is going to change now But, carry on flogging that dead horse You’re going to need to tell me how long I’m allowed to care about the govt taking the **** out of everyone who’s suffered because of the lockdown rules they introduced but then decide...

Greenmile

It doesnt mean "was" either, as you and some other people seem to think. Seems strange to are more inclined than the police or CPS to prosecute someone Do you employ this method of conviction to all people, or just the ones who masterminded brexit? I think TP was just trying to correct your erroneo...

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LeadBelly wrote: ↑
Thu May 28, 2020 5:45 pm
Same number as you.

One less than Lineker then.

Greenmile

Footballs back You can now meet your family again Yet this old news is still being discussed? How thick are the reporters in the briefing, do they really think Boris is going to admit he's wrong? I'd much rather them ask questions which would be of interest to all of us.. How will the easing work.....

Greenmile

Don’t forget the bit where he drove his family 30 miles “to test his eyesight”. I’d feel like my life was in danger if I was in that car!

Greenmile

LeadBelly wrote: ↑
Thu May 28, 2020 9:23 am
Spot on.
PATRONISING: treat in a way that is apparently kind or helpful but that betrays a feeling of superiority

Let’s be fair, he is superior to most of us when it comes to football (which is what he was tweeting about). How many golden boots have you won?

Greenmile

His actions haven’t made it much harder, the reporting, commentating and political attacks have made it much harder. Cummings went for a non essential drive in his car - hardly a headline never mind the circus we have had. Yep - if only our media were more like North Korea’s then this wouldn’t be a...

Greenmile

For thinking the Barnard Castle trip was a good idea? Yes. But if you go and hug your grandchildren just because Cummings did that trip, then you're as thick as pig shite There are a lot of people this country who are “as thick as pig shite”, unfortunately. My view is that they (along with everyone...

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Ringo and Rileys just confirming what I said on, I think, page 5 of this thread. No point in even trying to enter into sensible discourse with them. They are happy that the establishment think of the rest of the general populous as something to be sneered at as irrelevant. Seems a bit harsh on Rile...

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Greenmile

That’s OK, we have a spectrum of values in life and we all see things differently, I just wanted to pass on what I knew about it. Unfortunately for him it is now a police matter (I believe) as it has been reported. I’m grateful for the extra info. And I meant “shouldn’t be a police matter (imo)”. P...

Greenmile

And if Dominic Cummings shouted it? I’m not sure what your point is. It still wouldn’t be the same as him tweeting it, although I believe I misunderstood and what Dawson did is a bit more like shouting at her in the street (see my post above). Still an overreaction to report him to the police though.

Greenmile

I think he quoted a tweet from her and made that statement. It is wrong and offensive and does no one any favours really. Most of it has been deleted now, there may be screenshots of the original exchange. Fair enough. I stand corrected in that case. Happy to condemn the tweet. Not a police matter ...

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Grumps wrote: ↑
Wed May 27, 2020 4:45 pm
If I shouted that to your wife in the street, would you think the same way?

Not the same. He didn’t even @ her. It’s the equivalent of him saying it loudly in the pub to his mates.

Greenmile

He posted a tweet to Michael Gove's wife (I think) stating (something along the lines of) he would pay good money to kick Gove in the ******** infront of his kids. The defenders of free speech were up in arms, reporting him to twitter and the police, and the people who wanted a man jailed for teach...

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I've been on. I thought this place was bad. Did you see the guy who once did a podcast with bob mortimer get chased off there yesterday,? :lol: Then you may be aware that the most interesting / egregious examples of Daily Mail “journalism” are often posted there for all to see, even folk without a ...

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Damo wrote: ↑
Wed May 27, 2020 3:30 pm
The vast majority of the people who decry the Daily Mail seem to know, word for word, exactly what is printed in it every single day.
They cant all have found a copy in the works canteen, surely?

There’s this website called twitter.com. I think you’d like it.

Greenmile

I see. That's reassuring thanks. Good to know that all the sources were actually correct in one way or another then. A bit naughty perhaps to use the Q&A quote rather than the bit he set out to say in the statement , but...well I'm boring myself now. My main point, as I said from the outset, was to...

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