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by claretspice
Thu Sep 19, 2019 12:26 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 14522
Views: 270285

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

May's deal took us out of the single market, customs union, CAP, ECJ, Fishing Policy, ended free movement, and gave us two years to sort out a trade deal. The NI backstop was our idea, in order to maintain the integrity of the peace agreement, but then we're all told the technology to sort the bord...
by claretspice
Thu Sep 19, 2019 11:15 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 14522
Views: 270285

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

Are you saying you think all the things I mentioned would not be true if the backstop issue is resolved, then I have to disagree. But in the nicest possible way, most of your critique of May's withdrawal agreement simply isn't true. Most fundamentally, it does involve us leaving the EU. It does inv...
by claretspice
Thu Sep 19, 2019 10:34 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 14522
Views: 270285

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

Hi spice, that's a remarkably specious argument you are making. The question was remain or leave, and logically and rightly so. Let's consider it from the remain side; should the question have been "and how do you want to remain?" Of course, if we voted remain we were agreeing that our go...
by claretspice
Thu Sep 19, 2019 9:29 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 14522
Views: 270285

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

The point Faisal Islam was making was that post-Brexit there is loads of paperwork and inspections and vet's bills to do, while pre-Brexit all you had to do was load the animal onto a truck and drive it through the tunnel. The point I'm making is that wasn't true. As you see, even moving a single p...
by claretspice
Thu Sep 19, 2019 9:01 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 14522
Views: 270285

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

One other point - I'm fascinated by this argument that there's a mandate for no-deal because the ballot paper didn't distinguish between the different types of Brexit that were on offer. At one level, it's perfectly true. The ballot paper made no such distinction. But that is as much an argument for...
by claretspice
Thu Sep 19, 2019 8:52 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 14522
Views: 270285

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

No, I'm amazed. Frankly, I hadn't realised that until now, meat exports were subject to no health checks, no vet inspections, no paperwork, no customs or VAT forms, no farm licensing. I hadn't realised it was so easy. You'll be telling me next they're going to have to put tags in cows' ears after B...
by claretspice
Wed Sep 18, 2019 5:03 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 14522
Views: 270285

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

That is a total misunderstanding of the real world. Technically, legally, correct. But not reality. Reality is that vetos only give you bargaining power. If the other 27 countries are desperate for you to vote with them they will either offer something to prevent your veto, or threaten you in some ...
by claretspice
Wed Sep 18, 2019 3:02 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 14522
Views: 270285

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

People think they are being reasonable about a second referendum which restricts Leave to one variant of it, but they would never consider applying the same logic to Remain (e.g. only Remain if the EU doesn’t integrate any further). We should call it for what it is - an opportunity to stack the dec...
by claretspice
Wed Sep 18, 2019 8:28 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Hendrick goal
Replies: 71
Views: 6192

Re: Hendrick goal

It's a lovely goal. The finish is superb, and the movement and backheel from Vydra are also superb. Hendrick has also, rightly, got credit for the initial burst past a would-be tackler and the ball through to McNeil, but I reckon the pass from McNeil is as important as anything else. It's threaded t...
by claretspice
Tue Sep 03, 2019 9:06 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Benson
Replies: 92
Views: 6357

Re: Benson

Because if these young lads aren't good enough to be breaking into our first team soon they are useless to us and if they aren't good enough to attract championship clubs at 19/20 then they have too large of a gap to make it into our first team. As I said with McNeil, if they are good enough they w...
by claretspice
Mon Sep 02, 2019 8:27 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Benson
Replies: 92
Views: 6357

Re: Benson

But again all the examples given are either players who weren't at Burnley when they played at a low level or if they were at Burnley they weren't playing at that low of a level. In the case of Long and Rodriguez as pointed out, we were in the championship at the time and Rodriguez didn't even get ...
by claretspice
Mon Sep 02, 2019 5:54 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Benson
Replies: 92
Views: 6357

Re: Benson

My actual post, "Anything below Championship is a bit useless if these lads really want to make it as PL players , in my opinion." I hope Dunne fairs better at Fleetwood than he did at Sunderland. But that's not substantiated by evidence, is it? Currently Burnley players to have played in...
by claretspice
Mon Sep 02, 2019 5:41 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Pieters v Salah
Replies: 43
Views: 2531

Re: Pieters v Salah

I thought Pieters did OK against Salah on Saturday. He wasn't perfect but he stuck to his job doggedly and I thought the spacing between him and Mee was pretty good, and he definitely ensured that Salah didn't get in behind him too much, He did look a bit clumsy at times, though. Some of his defendi...
by claretspice
Mon Sep 02, 2019 12:02 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Benson
Replies: 92
Views: 6357

Re: Benson

I really do have a bit of a thing against the loan system, but the argument that you seem to think is "my" argument is not relevant to my belief that we should be aiming to send our young players to championship clubs. We are Premier League. Can anyone seriously disagree that we should be...
by claretspice
Sun Sep 01, 2019 9:41 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Benson
Replies: 92
Views: 6357

Re: Benson

Let's not forget that Dunne had a torrid time at League 1 level, previously having done very well in the SPL. League 1 is pretty shyte, I don't know what our lads are going to learn from it, unless that is going to be their true playing level. They're going to learn about managing professional foot...
by claretspice
Sun Sep 01, 2019 9:40 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley v Liverpool - Player Ratings
Replies: 84
Views: 4219

Re: Burnley v Liverpool - Player Ratings

We won't be the only team made to look ordinary by this Liverpool team, and unfortunately a day when they get the big break of luck and gift them a goal is never going to be a day when we get a result against them. Pope - 7 - A superb finger tip save to push Salah's drive onto the post, and a couple...
by claretspice
Sat Aug 31, 2019 2:40 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Todays match weather
Replies: 14
Views: 1163

Re: Todays match weather

Weather won't be as bad as when we played them at Anfield earlier in the year - and it suited them that day because they had the pace to capitalise on unexpected impacts of the wind.
by claretspice
Sat Aug 31, 2019 2:29 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: This weeks VAR shenanigans
Replies: 37
Views: 1835

Re: This weeks VAR shenanigans

Here's the point - no such thing as binary "right" and "wrong" decisions in football with a few exceptions like offside. Last week's penalty is an excellent example - if the ref decides the striker has made a meal of it, that's a legitimate decision. If he decides it's a penalty,...
by claretspice
Tue Aug 27, 2019 1:35 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Team v Sunderland
Replies: 67
Views: 3676

Re: Team v Sunderland

I make that nine current or former full internationals with a total of 242 caps between them. I expect Taylor will soon be back to being the first choice left back which would mean ten internationals if we include Pieters and 260 caps in total. And that's our second string team. If Brady isn't avai...
by claretspice
Wed Aug 21, 2019 5:04 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Who is our designated penalty taker this season?
Replies: 11
Views: 736

Re: Who is our designated penalty taker this season?

duncandisorderly wrote:I thought Vokes took them unless Ings won them?


That was my understanding too.

I thought Wood took them now unless Barnes won it, but could be wrong.
by claretspice
Fri Aug 16, 2019 9:13 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Your team for the gunners
Replies: 18
Views: 1364

Re: Your team for the gunners

Only change I'd consider is bringing in Hendrick for one of the two wide midfielders. That worked extremely well away to the bigger clubs last season. On the other hand, not easy to decide which of McNeil or JBG would make way given how well McNeil has performed this calendar year and JBG's goal las...
by claretspice
Wed Aug 14, 2019 3:36 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Drinkwater - bench this weekend?
Replies: 31
Views: 2790

Re: Drinkwater - bench this weekend?

I was surprised he wasn't on the bench on Saturday, but it may be that because he only joined on Thursday, he'd not actually joined up with the squad (likely spent Friday sorting his stuff out). After a week of training, it'd be very odd if he wasn't on the bench as an option should we get an injury...
by claretspice
Tue Aug 13, 2019 5:08 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Hendrick
Replies: 67
Views: 5009

Re: Hendrick

They were very specific in terms of age and height and where the experience had to be which was my original, somewhat jokey, point. Personally I don't think that Hendrick is that physically imposing. He isn't winning a huge number of headers or tackles and you don't see players bouncing off him lik...
by claretspice
Tue Aug 13, 2019 12:34 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Hendrick
Replies: 67
Views: 5009

Re: Hendrick

Indeed (it was from F365 so it may even have been me who posted it). Personally I quite like Hendrick although I think his best performances for us have been on the right of midfield. The point was that Spice's criteria were so specific there probably isn't another player that matches them, regardl...
by claretspice
Mon Aug 12, 2019 9:12 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Hendrick
Replies: 67
Views: 5009

Re: Hendrick

Valuable squad member and most effective on the right. Worth his 10M but certainly no 20 M, let's not get carried away ;) You let me know where we can get a 6 foot tall midfielder, who can play pretty much any role across a midfield 4 or 5, and has played 100+ premier league games and is only 27, f...
by claretspice
Mon Aug 12, 2019 11:36 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Hendrick
Replies: 67
Views: 5009

Re: Hendrick

Im same. Some people rate him massively. I think hes average at best we'll have offered him a new contract. If we wanted rid, we wouldn't have exercised the 1 year option to extend. It'd cost him £20 million plus in this market to replace him, so I think it's crucial we extend his contact and keep ...
by claretspice
Mon Aug 12, 2019 10:16 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: REPORT: Saints blown away by the Clarets
Replies: 23
Views: 1827

Re: REPORT: Saints blown away by the Clarets

I think what I mean by personal is that you don't limit yourself to offering an opinion of Scott's performance. You make reference to him being "surely as bad a referee as you can possibly get in the Premier League" - which to my mind is a more general comment about Graham Scott, and it's ...
by claretspice
Mon Aug 12, 2019 9:30 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Would A Fully Fit Drinkwater Have Improved Us Against Saints?
Replies: 32
Views: 2756

Re: Would A Fully Fit Drinkwater Have Improved Us Against Saints?

At his fully fit, in form best - yes. If for no other reason than he's a better player than either Westwood or Cork (no disgrace on either, it's just reflecting the fact Drinkwater is better - that's why he's won league titles, gone to Chelsea for £35 million, etc.). Specifically, he's more than cap...
by claretspice
Mon Aug 12, 2019 8:48 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: A question re: Taylor v Pieters and McNeil
Replies: 41
Views: 2695

Re: A question re: Taylor v Pieters and McNeil

Not sure based on his reputation at Stoke that Pieters will prove to be an inferior attacking option to Taylor (or necessarily better defensively). Also not especially sure that McNeil being quiet on Saturday had much to do with Pieters. It looked to me to have more to do with McNeil being slightly ...
by claretspice
Mon Aug 12, 2019 8:33 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: REPORT: Saints blown away by the Clarets
Replies: 23
Views: 1827

Re: REPORT: Saints blown away by the Clarets

Big fan of Tony's match reports, and I agree that Scott isn't one of the better refs in the league, and didn't have an especially stellar game on Saturday. There was one failure to bring play back when there was no advantage after Westwood had been fouled which was particularly odd, and it understan...
by claretspice
Sun Aug 11, 2019 12:55 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley v Southampton - Player Ratings
Replies: 79
Views: 6384

Re: Burnley v Southampton - Player Ratings

From TV - tough game to mark, in that it was very tight and pretty scrappy for long periods, but once we got the wind in the second half we were always the more likely winners. Pope - 7 - Decent save from Redmond first and and a smarter (if less heralded) one with his feet at his near post late on, ...
by claretspice
Fri Aug 09, 2019 11:23 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Your team for the saints
Replies: 52
Views: 2708

Re: Your team for the saints

Pope
Lowton
Taylor
Tarkowski
Mee
Cork
Westwood
Hendrick
McNeil
Barnes
Wood


That's basically the team which did so well for us last season, other than Lowton who won his place back from Bardsley before the end of campaign.

Tough on JBG, but Hendrick deserves the shirt. Be a very strong bench.
by claretspice
Fri Aug 09, 2019 11:07 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: BREAKING NEWS: Drinkwater signs to fill the midfield gap
Replies: 245
Views: 11226

Re: BREAKING NEWS: Drinkwater signs to fill the midfield gap

Looked really good in the clips,and he couldn't get a game at Chelsea.....strange one What you really see in those YouTube clips is the quality of his long passing and his ability to switch the play quickly. That's going to be good news for Wood, but it could also be particularly good news for Lenn...
by claretspice
Fri Aug 09, 2019 12:57 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Winners and losers
Replies: 40
Views: 1608

Re: Winners and losers

In the transfer window A number of ‘ Burnley ’ signings, players who will fit Sean Dyche’s system and way of doing things: Jay Rodriguez, Erik Pieters, Danny Drinkwater. But they’ve kind of just attempted to stand still the Clarets here, and, if anything, have merely just ended up going backwards. ...
by claretspice
Thu Aug 08, 2019 8:56 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: 2 great windows business wise
Replies: 44
Views: 3432

Re: 2 great windows business wise

It's been a 7/10 window for me. On the plus side - we've hit our first two objectives: make sure we've enough depth in each position, and add extra quality in possession. We've added (albeit temporarily) the central midfielder with the range of passing to help us move the ball quickly and open up th...
by claretspice
Thu Aug 08, 2019 6:20 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: BREAKING NEWS: Drinkwater signs to fill the midfield gap
Replies: 245
Views: 11226

Re: BREAKING NEWS: Drinkwater signs to fill the midfield gap

What are our options for January if he’s been a success? To sign him permanently, we'd presumably have to do a deal with him and Chelsea whereby we paid a substantial premium on the purchase price to enable Chelsea to pay off a chunk of his contract, in order that we could sign him within our wage ...
by claretspice
Thu Aug 08, 2019 6:18 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: BREAKING NEWS: Drinkwater signs to fill the midfield gap
Replies: 245
Views: 11226

Re: BREAKING NEWS: Drinkwater signs to fill the midfield gap

Good player, and in those terms its an excellent signing who undoubtedly can improve the first eleven. Apart from being a good all-rounder, he's got the ability to hit raking passes to switch the play which we've missed since Dean Marney was getting one of those right every now and again, so he'll h...
by claretspice
Thu Aug 08, 2019 8:07 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: BFC TRANSFER NEWS (MUST CONTAIN LINK)
Replies: 5242
Views: 456727

Re: BFC TRANSFER NEWS (MUST CONTAIN LINK)

Would have been a steady, safe and within budget addition for us - and you'd imagine the ability to stay where he is currently based would have swung it in our favour. One can only assume we have a central midfielder in the bag for us to have shown no interest in Mooy, right? Think the biggest issu...
by claretspice
Wed Aug 07, 2019 4:57 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: BFC TRANSFER NEWS (MUST CONTAIN LINK)
Replies: 5242
Views: 456727

Re: BFC TRANSFER NEWS (MUST CONTAIN LINK)

Yes, obviously. But how good a midfielder would he need to be, to make the side better in spite of Lennon replacing McNeil on the wing? Leaving aside the argument about whether Lennon can still do a job, why would it be Lennon coming in? We got to the Champions League places over the first 2/5ths o...
by claretspice
Wed Aug 07, 2019 4:38 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: BFC TRANSFER NEWS (MUST CONTAIN LINK)
Replies: 5242
Views: 456727

Re: BFC TRANSFER NEWS (MUST CONTAIN LINK)

I dont disagree he could play top of a 3, but we need a ball winner in the middle, someone to stop the opposition walking through us. That isnt Dwight, and holding onto the ball is different from winning it. I think we all agree we need another midfielder given the Defour situation, and McNeil's ab...
by claretspice
Wed Aug 07, 2019 4:17 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: BFC TRANSFER NEWS (MUST CONTAIN LINK)
Replies: 5242
Views: 456727

Re: BFC TRANSFER NEWS (MUST CONTAIN LINK)

dsr wrote:Agreed. We've spent years hoping for a really good winger who can beat a man and cross accurately. Now we've finally got one, why would we want to move him?


If he can be more effective in a different role, and it makes the team more effective overall?
by claretspice
Wed Aug 07, 2019 4:07 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: BFC TRANSFER NEWS (MUST CONTAIN LINK)
Replies: 5242
Views: 456727

Re: BFC TRANSFER NEWS (MUST CONTAIN LINK)

I dont understand those people who think Dwight could play in midfield. Hes undoubtedly got the talent for it, but he would need to bulk up a couple of stone, to be the player we need. When you've got a round peg in a round hole why move it, it would just weaken us in two positions. Have thought fo...
by claretspice
Wed Aug 07, 2019 4:04 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: BFC TRANSFER NEWS (MUST CONTAIN LINK)
Replies: 5242
Views: 456727

Re: BFC TRANSFER NEWS (MUST CONTAIN LINK)

At the risk of repeating myself, that was running last year, so judge for yourself how much truth is in it The story is consistent with that. It says we had an interest this year, the player didn't want to leave France then, but we've retained an interest and the player is now open to moving on. Ho...
by claretspice
Wed Aug 07, 2019 3:16 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: BFC TRANSFER NEWS (MUST CONTAIN LINK)
Replies: 5242
Views: 456727

Re: BFC TRANSFER NEWS (MUST CONTAIN LINK)

Must say that I tend to agree that Brownhill, at roughly £15-16 million, doesn't seem like too bad value. Very similar profile to Hendrick when we signed him 3 years ago and the rate of inflation on his fee seems about right to me. He's different type of player to Kalvin Philips but the fee seems a ...
by claretspice
Wed Aug 07, 2019 11:22 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: BFC TRANSFER NEWS (MUST CONTAIN LINK)
Replies: 5242
Views: 456727

Re: BFC TRANSFER NEWS (MUST CONTAIN LINK)

Let's say you worked in sales, with a relatively low basic salary topped up by commissions, and you had a period in which those commissions went through the roof for reasons that you could only partially control - and you knew that as a result, while it was nice while it lasted, those commissions we...
by claretspice
Tue Aug 06, 2019 9:30 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: BFC TRANSFER NEWS (MUST CONTAIN LINK)
Replies: 5242
Views: 456727

Re: BFC TRANSFER NEWS (MUST CONTAIN LINK)

All four were signed with no knowledge of how poor they would be - indeed, Besart is only on this list due to injury trouble. You have just listed a bunch of poor signings, not ones that meet the criteria of signing a near 35 year old who we deemed not good enough three years ago, who has had a ver...
by claretspice
Tue Aug 06, 2019 9:08 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: BFC TRANSFER NEWS (MUST CONTAIN LINK)
Replies: 5242
Views: 456727

Re: BFC TRANSFER NEWS (MUST CONTAIN LINK)

randomclaret2 wrote:Benson has featured heavily in preseason , playing alongside current First Team players as opposed to someone who left on a free 3 years ago.


Does that mean he can't learn from David Jones?
by claretspice
Tue Aug 06, 2019 8:50 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: BFC TRANSFER NEWS (MUST CONTAIN LINK)
Replies: 5242
Views: 456727

Re: BFC TRANSFER NEWS (MUST CONTAIN LINK)

You don't think that playing 90 minutes alongside a player of Dave Jones' experience and intelligence won't have been a huge boost for Benson's development? Not only is it not worth getting your knickers in a twist about because it's a friendly clearly arranged to be a bit of a hybrid of development...
by claretspice
Tue Aug 06, 2019 8:35 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: BFC TRANSFER NEWS (MUST CONTAIN LINK)
Replies: 5242
Views: 456727

Re: BFC TRANSFER NEWS (MUST CONTAIN LINK)

But there's no reason to think we have any sort of intention to sign Jones is there?

In fact, Dyche has said we don't intend to, and we're just enabling him to train. OK he went somewhere else in the hope of earning a deal - that obviously didn't work out, so why wouldn't we have him back again?
by claretspice
Tue Aug 06, 2019 1:49 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: BFC TRANSFER NEWS (MUST CONTAIN LINK)
Replies: 5242
Views: 456727

Re: BFC TRANSFER NEWS (MUST CONTAIN LINK)

To be fair Random was responding to Spijed who likes to dismiss the first half of last season as if it didn't happen and make out that we are somehow a Europa League form team. This isn't true in itself cos I think on the form guide we were around 12th-14th for second half of last season plus to ju...

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