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by claretspice
Thu Apr 25, 2019 1:33 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Is an end of season “ mini” clearout on the cards ?
Replies: 59
Views: 2857

Re: Is an end of season “ mini” clearout on the cards ?

The extent of the over-expectation about what we can achieve in the transfer market is probably best summed up by the brief this thread gives for a central midfielder. The successful candidate will be 6 foot tall, athletic, creative/good in possession, and capable of weighing in with goals. Now, tha...
by claretspice
Thu Apr 25, 2019 1:19 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Is an end of season “ mini” clearout on the cards ?
Replies: 59
Views: 2857

Re: Is an end of season “ mini” clearout on the cards ?

The answer to the OP's question is...no, not really. what we definitely don't want to do if we can avoid it is have to bring in players to fill the squad. We want to focus on either players who have the capacity to come in and play 25+ first team games next season, or who are part of a longer term s...
by claretspice
Wed Apr 24, 2019 9:02 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: We Never Score From Corners
Replies: 22
Views: 1335

Re: We Never Score From Corners

The improvement in Westwood's corners this season has been quite remarkable - and I suspect it's testament to a lot of dull, repetitive, but incredibly diligent practice on the training ground.
by claretspice
Tue Apr 23, 2019 10:01 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Chelsea v Burnley - Player Ratings
Replies: 70
Views: 3118

Re: Chelsea v Burnley - Player Ratings

Really contributed to a thrilling game for 25 minutes, but after that it was as good a defensive performance as you’ll ever see – to a man. Heaton – 8 – did everything he could have done, with the relatively little that was asked of him. Lowton – 9 – Dealt with Hazard as well as any right back will ...
by claretspice
Tue Apr 23, 2019 12:28 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Chelsea v Burnley - Player Ratings
Replies: 70
Views: 3118

Re: Chelsea v Burnley - Player Ratings

Lowts went way too narrow and stood off him too much, as Sky said. I don’t believe in ratings players higher because of the class of opposition. It is Premier League not tiddlywinks. He had 8 accurate passes in the game and hardly got forward. McNeil had 9 accurate passes. I have upped a few of my ...
by claretspice
Tue Apr 23, 2019 12:25 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Lowton
Replies: 44
Views: 2508

Re: Lowton

Anyone who's played full back or wide know's you don't give the attacker room and time to think and Lowton was guilty of that in the first half, Dyche having played FB must have had a word because Lowts was better in the SH. You'd best tell Sean Dyche that - he's been drilling our full backs to sta...
by claretspice
Tue Apr 23, 2019 12:24 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Lowton
Replies: 44
Views: 2508

Re: Lowton

Excellent throughout for me. Sure, Hazard gave him a tough time first half and got the assist for the equaliser, but the skill level was sublime and there's not a full back in the league who can cope with Hazard in that position, showing that much skill. Big problem we had on that side first half wa...
by claretspice
Thu Apr 18, 2019 1:14 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Will we get our business done earlier this summer ?
Replies: 44
Views: 2356

Re: Will we get our business done earlier this summer ?

Depends on the sort of player we're targeting. If we're targeting players who can really improve us, probably not for the reasons pointed out - those players are in demand, they have no incentive to sign for Burnley early in the window before they know if bigger fish might be interested, and their c...
by claretspice
Tue Apr 16, 2019 5:07 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Dwight McNeil song
Replies: 38
Views: 1584

Re: Dwight McNeil song

If it's going to catch on, it needs to be two lines long and then repeat.

The Sit Down chant used by Liverpool for Salah scans pretty well for McNeil, as it happens - it fits that brief and has the benefit of being a new tune.
by claretspice
Tue Apr 16, 2019 4:58 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: James Forrest
Replies: 17
Views: 1987

Re: James Forrest

And what about the games where we need to be on front foot, where we do dominate possession but struggle to break the opposition down because haven't got that flair or individual ability needed? For example, Leicester at home this season. Sometimes you need someone who can just make things happen. ...
by claretspice
Tue Apr 16, 2019 4:54 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: the vultures are circling already
Replies: 132
Views: 5600

Re: the vultures are circling already

I'm all for injecting reality into debates about our financial status relative to even Championship rivals, but two points of balance here: 1. Just because clubs have rich owners, it doesn't mean that they'll see them right on relegation, or that they intend to. There are plenty of examples of this ...
by claretspice
Tue Apr 16, 2019 10:56 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: the vultures are circling already
Replies: 132
Views: 5600

Re: the vultures are circling already

No surprise at all he's on radars, but I'm not sure there's too much to worry about in that article that we couldn't suspect already. We'll have enquiries about McNeil this summer and we may even have concrete proposals (possibly including a season on a loan back). However, we don't need to sell and...
by claretspice
Mon Apr 15, 2019 5:36 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: James Forrest
Replies: 17
Views: 1987

Re: James Forrest

The trouble we will have in looking at any player from Celtic is that Celtic dominate every game they play barring a couple of European ties each season - they have the vast majority of possession and territory. In the vast majority of games, we certainly don't dominate (and in quite a number we are...
by claretspice
Sun Apr 14, 2019 5:17 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Hopefully recruitment plans start now onwards
Replies: 29
Views: 1852

Re: Hopefully recruitment plans start now onwards

Depending on how many points we finish with, but we are going to finish with quite a lot less than last year. The improvement since Xmas has been startling, but I still think this summer is where we realise that the age and mentality of the squad perhaps needs a refresh. What that involves and how ...
by claretspice
Sun Apr 14, 2019 3:49 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Hopefully recruitment plans start now onwards
Replies: 29
Views: 1852

Re: Hopefully recruitment plans start now onwards

Yep - first things first, it's always going to be tough to improve on a squad which has - despite relatively bad luck with injuries - smashed it out of the park for three half seasons out of four in the past two years, and which has never been seriously embroiled in a relegation scrap in the final f...
by claretspice
Sat Apr 13, 2019 11:26 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Mike Dean
Replies: 21
Views: 1642

Re: Mike Dean

I've seen it and he got it spot on. He's the best ref and not coincidentally, also the strongest. Was glad he was the ref during the penalty incident because a weaker character might have buckled and made a different, wrong decision.
by claretspice
Sat Apr 13, 2019 11:25 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Turn up early tomorrow to see the flags
Replies: 105
Views: 5574

Re: Turn up early tomorrow to see the flags

Lancasterclaret wrote:100% winning with the flags.

Just saying like


I was sceptical, but it worked.


There'll be some kids today whose abiding memory is the flags when the teams came out or the scarves in the cricket field end when we went 2-0 up. It will have looked great ok to too. That's enough.

Good job.
by claretspice
Sat Apr 13, 2019 6:37 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley v Cardiff - Player Ratings
Replies: 76
Views: 3522

Re: Burnley v Cardiff - Player Ratings

Overall, after a few twists and turns, a deserved victory which has all but secured this club a fourth successive season in the Premier League. Make no mistake, this is a great day. Heaton - 8 - Nothing much to do, but did supremely well a couple of time to scramble away short back passes/headers, a...
by claretspice
Fri Apr 12, 2019 4:10 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Crouch our for the rest of the season ?
Replies: 43
Views: 1864

Re: Crouch our for the rest of the season ?

Think you misunderstood my point on injurys elsewhere. If all our wingers and midfielders were fit then losing Barnes or Wood would not have been as greater loss as we could revert to a 4-5-1 with Hendirck or one of the wingers playing the umber 10 role. When we are struggling to put two wingers on...
by claretspice
Fri Apr 12, 2019 4:04 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Crouch our for the rest of the season ?
Replies: 43
Views: 1864

Re: Crouch our for the rest of the season ?

How about we sign a couple of players that will improve the starting 11. Then maybe we wouldn't need to be wheeling out the likes of Crouch in the last 10 minutes when we aren't winning again. Radical suggestion I know but it may just work... Failing that, anyone know what Kevin Francis and Ian Orm...
by claretspice
Fri Apr 12, 2019 12:21 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Crouch our for the rest of the season ?
Replies: 43
Views: 1864

Re: Crouch our for the rest of the season ?

selling Vokes wasn't the problem. we should have got rid in the summer an upgraded to a better model. The issue was our ineptness at getting a suitable replacement. Now had we had people like Defour and Lennon fit and Brady not struggling like he was or Dyche showing more trust in Vydra or been mid...
by claretspice
Fri Apr 12, 2019 11:41 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Crouch our for the rest of the season ?
Replies: 43
Views: 1864

Re: Crouch our for the rest of the season ?

I'm in two minds about Crouch for next season. The first question is whether or not he's got another year in him at the same level he's currently at. That's a physical/medical question for the club and its staff. Clearly we shouldn't be signing him up again if the answer is "no" (and I'm s...
by claretspice
Thu Apr 11, 2019 7:25 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Dan James
Replies: 24
Views: 1920

Re: Dan James

Saw a bit of Dan James the other night for Swansea, and he looked to have a great deal of potential, although (admittedly on a short viewing, and without knowing if he always plays off the left) I did wonder if his game might need a bit more variation in the Premier League (he looked to drop the sho...
by claretspice
Wed Apr 10, 2019 11:14 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: MOTD
Replies: 53
Views: 4532

Re: MOTD

The handball wasn’t but haven’t seen anybody mention the Wilson charge into Mee, that left him injured after he headed wide. 100% for that one, made no attempt to play the ball. The handball was very similar to the one Wolves appeared for at Burnley (funnily enough against Barnes) the week before. ...
by claretspice
Tue Apr 09, 2019 8:44 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Transfer Targets
Replies: 66
Views: 6961

Re: Transfer Targets

Not for the first time, I'm very impressed with Josh Brownhill tonight. 6 foot tall, very mobile, technically good. I know he's been linked with moves to the premier league before and he's a North West lad.
by claretspice
Tue Apr 09, 2019 1:13 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Lake District recommendations?
Replies: 28
Views: 1463

Re: Lake District recommendations?

Cat Bells a good shout, as is Wansfell Pike, which gives you fabulous views down Windermere - in both cases if you are up for a shortish climb. Buttermere is wonderful, but it's a bit of a trek. I'd suggest a walk along the banks of Ullswater - you can park at Patterdale by the White Lion pub, and w...
by claretspice
Tue Apr 09, 2019 12:49 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Wembley '09 - One decade on, and what a decade!
Replies: 71
Views: 2633

Re: Wembley '09 - One decade on, and what a decade!

There is a day, presumably pretty much exactly 5 years ago, when we went to Charlton and won 3-0 during the first Dyche promotion season, and played with such utter conviction that for perhaps the first time ever I knew it was almost inevitably Burnley would win from the first minutes of the game. I...
by claretspice
Mon Apr 08, 2019 4:52 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Andy Carroll
Replies: 22
Views: 1876

Re: Andy Carroll

Jonathan Walters fits most of these Crouch fits most of these Jutkiewicz fits most of these That's 3 examples. They really don't. Not any of them. Crouch and Walters fit the over 30 category; that's about it, apart from both being cheap and therefore low risk signings. I can't think of a single str...
by claretspice
Mon Apr 08, 2019 4:28 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Andy Carroll
Replies: 22
Views: 1876

Re: Andy Carroll

Unsurprisingly out injured for the rest of the season and free to leave at the end of the season. I am really worried that this has a Burnley signing written all over it. Another big target man Poor record of injuries Hasn't scored many goals Over 30 No resale value No transfer fee Apart from Crouc...
by claretspice
Mon Apr 08, 2019 2:18 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Who should leave in the Summer ?
Replies: 38
Views: 1981

Re: Who should leave in the Summer ?

Big difference being Hart can walk / run ! Seriously - even if we agreed to pay half why would any team want to pay a million a year for someone who we cannot even get fit for an under 23 game. The injury he had a few years ago was pretty horrific - reading about it they were surprised he ever came...
by claretspice
Mon Apr 08, 2019 2:00 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Who should leave in the Summer ?
Replies: 38
Views: 1981

Re: Who should leave in the Summer ?

Defour btw is very likely to be going nowhere. Clearly a chronic injury...will be on minimum £40k a week and we agreed to trigger the one year option. So we are stuck with him for another 14 months (or about £2.5m in salary terms) and probably will never see him play for Burnley again. Nobody is go...
by claretspice
Mon Apr 08, 2019 1:33 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Issac Hayden
Replies: 10
Views: 1273

Re: Issac Hayden

It's quicker to travel to London from Newcastle than it is Burnley, although he wold probably live in Manchester like most of the players. I mean, yes that's true, and I suppose it passes the "Robbie Savage test", but it's still the case that of all the teams likely to be in the Premier L...
by claretspice
Mon Apr 08, 2019 1:03 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: McNeil & Brady
Replies: 48
Views: 3131

Re: McNeil & Brady

The problem with Brady is getting him game time. He’s hardly played in 17 months and when he has he’s looked incredibly rusty. Hopefully a run of games in pre- season will being some confidence back. But that's just it isn't it. Brady's come back midway through a season (so without a proper pre-sea...
by claretspice
Mon Apr 08, 2019 12:31 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Issac Hayden
Replies: 10
Views: 1273

Re: Issac Hayden

He wants to leave because he wants to go back down to London with his family. Not too sure a move to Burnley would achieve that.

Good player though.
by claretspice
Mon Apr 08, 2019 12:25 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: McNeil & Brady
Replies: 48
Views: 3131

Re: McNeil & Brady

McNeil would be wasted in the centre, he can beat his man (or 2), and whip a good cross in. Nothing stops a player from the middle drifting wide and providing a cross, or taking a man on, and of course the quality of his crossing is really a function of the fact he's an outstanding ball player in t...
by claretspice
Mon Apr 08, 2019 12:22 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Who should leave in the Summer ?
Replies: 38
Views: 1981

Re: Who should leave in the Summer ?

JBG, Defour are only on this list due to their injury records. Brady to a lesser extent, but it might be worth letting him fully recover this summer as his was a bad injury. I think one of the things we should have learned from this season, is that we can't afford to carry injury prone players. But...
by claretspice
Mon Apr 08, 2019 12:14 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: REPORT: Clarets go Cherry picking
Replies: 28
Views: 2061

Re: REPORT: Clarets go Cherry picking

What I liked about the corner was that it was their player stood directly behind Begovic, so it was less likely that the referee would have blown for a free kick - because it was his own man blocking him. Yes- Chris Kamara highlighted this on Goals on Sunday, that Barnes managed to trap his marker ...
by claretspice
Mon Apr 08, 2019 12:09 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Who should leave in the Summer ?
Replies: 38
Views: 1981

Re: Who should leave in the Summer ?

As I said on another thread last night, we need to be doing our utmost to keep everyone who has played 15 or so games this season, with the possible exceptions of Hart and Bardsley. That would include the likes of Brady, JBG and Lennon. Recruitment at this level is hard enough without getting rid of...
by claretspice
Sun Apr 07, 2019 9:52 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Who should we keep (at all cost) for next season?
Replies: 28
Views: 1009

Re: Who should we keep (at all cost) for next season?

We can't afford to keep anyone "at all costs", but if the real question is who should we be doing our utmost to keep, the answer is everyone who has played 15 or so games this season, with the possible exceptions of Hart and Bardsley. Recruitment at this level is hard enough without gettin...
by claretspice
Fri Apr 05, 2019 5:08 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Spurs announce Trippier release
Replies: 64
Views: 4344

Re: Spurs announce Trippier release

If Trippier goes to Everton, that will leave a couple of decent right backs at Everton well down the food chain which might be of interest to us (they've got Coleman, Kenny and Holgate). If Keane leaves for Spurs, then that worries me a touch because it would be no surprise to see Tarkowski targeted...
by claretspice
Fri Apr 05, 2019 5:07 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Everton game moved for television
Replies: 23
Views: 1353

Re: ARTICLE: Everton game moved for television

Quite pleased at this, being completely selfish - a few drinks and the football in Liverpool on a Friday evening in May seems pretty reasonable to me.
by claretspice
Thu Apr 04, 2019 6:25 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Wage Bill is 59M
Replies: 68
Views: 3836

Re: Wage Bill is 59M

AndyClaret wrote:It is relevant when comparing us to our rivals.


Only if you also know the basic wage and bonus structures of all of our rivals, so have a direct comparison to make.
by claretspice
Thu Apr 04, 2019 6:18 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Wage Bill is 59M
Replies: 68
Views: 3836

Re: Wage Bill is 59M

It contradicts Garlick's statement about us not being bottom of the wage table anymore though. Not really, because the £59 million figure is no more relevant than the £81 million figure. It's an eminently sensible model for Burnley to follow - a really generous bonus structure and fairly modest bas...
by claretspice
Thu Apr 04, 2019 6:11 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Wage Bill is 59M
Replies: 68
Views: 3836

Re: Wage Bill is 59M

Seriously wonder if this was a slip of the tongue from our manager. The club took steps to make the 2016 bonus difficult to identify in the accounts, after which in 2017 & 2018 only the consolidated Total Wage bill was made available for scrutiny. Doubt it, it's absolutely in his interests for ...
by claretspice
Thu Apr 04, 2019 4:15 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Lennon
Replies: 53
Views: 2937

Re: Lennon

Hed be good iff the bench I can think of a few games recently when we have missed him, actually - when JBG has been injured/ineffective and we've needed someone to add a bit of extra threat down the right hand side. I suspect his days of being a regular starter for us are probably done, but he stil...
by claretspice
Thu Apr 04, 2019 8:40 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 8009
Views: 89346

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

That a backbencher can seize control of the Commons, table a bill (not a motion, but a bill to actually change the law of the land), on an issue of massive importance, then get the bill passed by 1 vote after a few hours of debate (these things normally take weeks or months).... Only 1 or 2 people ...
by claretspice
Thu Apr 04, 2019 8:37 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Cardiff at home
Replies: 64
Views: 4349

Re: Cardiff at home

I don't know that I'd "take" a draw at Burnley, but it's definitely not a disaster if we draw it now. Cardiff need the win far more than we do - almost irrespective of our result on Saturday, but especially if we can get a point on Saturday (and if we get 3, Cardiff will virtually have to ...
by claretspice
Tue Apr 02, 2019 3:35 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Wells, Vydra Crouch
Replies: 73
Views: 2850

Re: Wells, Vydra Crouch

I personally don't think there's evidence that he will or won't be a world beater - he's barely played. The argument is he hasn't had much of a chance and after having a bit of a poor showing at Cardiff got yanked... How many poor showings has other players shown this year without being yanked?... ...
by claretspice
Tue Apr 02, 2019 2:41 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Out of contract players in the summer (ours)
Replies: 47
Views: 3134

Re: Out of contract players in the summer (ours)

We won't sell Defour without demonstrating he is fit, given his record over the last 2 seasons. And if he is fit, I'd much rather he stays. He was the difference in the first half of last season, and we have really missed him this season. Arguably the most talented player we have had at Burnley sin...
by claretspice
Tue Apr 02, 2019 2:37 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Wells, Vydra Crouch
Replies: 73
Views: 2850

Re: Wells, Vydra Crouch

Fair enough - this won't surprise you when I say this - I disagree with you. No, fair enough, it doesn't. But lets keep the size of this disagreement in proportion - I'm pretty positive about Vydra, and I definitely think it's possible he ultimately makes it with us, and I'm certainly not against h...

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