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by claretspice
Sat Jan 25, 2020 11:04 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Whos honest enough to admit eating SD humble pie
Replies: 97
Views: 3103

Re: Whos honest enough to admit eating SD humble pie

Jay getting picked I agree was long overdue - albeit in hindsight and without all the facts that Dyche and his team have that we don’t. And Jay in the last couple of games and against United at home actually when he came on has played surprisingly well - and I say surprisingly because tbh I hadn’t ...
by claretspice
Sat Jan 25, 2020 10:29 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Whos honest enough to admit eating SD humble pie
Replies: 97
Views: 3103

Re: Whos honest enough to admit eating SD humble pie

Last night we played more long balls, far fewer passes at a lower success rate and had a lot fewer shots than we did against Villa. The idea that we've suddenly started playing a different style of football because we've happened to win a couple of games is a myth. Lies damn lies and statistics. Fo...
by claretspice
Fri Jan 24, 2020 1:09 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Team against Norwich
Replies: 41
Views: 2867

Re: Team against Norwich

A few changes I'd have thought. All of the above, plus Brady and potentially JBG or Vydra too.

Would certainly expect one of the front 2 to get a rest.
by claretspice
Fri Jan 24, 2020 8:48 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Lowton-excellent.
Replies: 13
Views: 1339

Re: Lowton-excellent.

At his best, Lowton's a vastly superior all round full back to Bardsley. He's a bit quicker so he's more effective one v one (saw that a bit at OT as the game went on), and his superior ability in possession and in attack make a huge difference to our possession football and attacking armoury. He's ...
by claretspice
Thu Jan 23, 2020 9:47 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Charlie Taylor
Replies: 46
Views: 3017

Re: Charlie Taylor

Thought taylor was superb last night although actually I thought that for all the last ditch tackle was wonderful, the opening occurred in the first place because Taylor hadn't tucked in enough. But that's a minor gripe with what was a quite wonderful performance. Of course hes one footed and occasi...
by claretspice
Thu Jan 23, 2020 7:57 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Jayrod or Robbie...Which Was The Best Goal Against United?
Replies: 51
Views: 1572

Re: Jayrod or Robbie...Which Was The Best Goal Against United?

Hard to split them if you're basing it on technical quality. They're both worldies. Blake's volley is technically unbeatable, Rodriguez' goal has the edge on build up.

But for overall context, wonderful as last night was, I dont think the moment of Blake's goal can be beaten.
by claretspice
Thu Jan 23, 2020 12:52 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: RATE THE REF - Jon Moss v Manchester United
Replies: 18
Views: 805

Re: RATE THE REF - Jon Moss v Manchester United

Disallowed a late United goal that he easily could have let stand - so not sure of any United bias. Had a fairly good game I thought. Missed a blatant foul on McNeill in the closing stages as did the assistant who was right in front of it - but got the vast majority of things right. Nah. That was a...
by claretspice
Thu Jan 23, 2020 8:54 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: BFC TRANSFER NEWS Jan 2020(MUST CONTAIN LINK)
Replies: 1278
Views: 134835

Re: BFC TRANSFER NEWS Jan 2020(MUST CONTAIN LINK)

If only we had a midfielder who could run, eh, Boysie? Never mind. Joking apart - last night showed why we don't need to get carried away in the transfer market, and why its so difficult to improve on what we've got - but it also gave us a platform to offer players confidence they're signing up for ...
by claretspice
Thu Jan 23, 2020 8:50 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Manchester United v Burnley - Player Ratings
Replies: 68
Views: 3773

Re: Manchester United v Burnley - Player Ratings

One of the great nights. Rode our luck a little bit in a frantic first 20 minutes, but after that controlled the game completely with a phenomenally committed, disciplined and canny performance. Pope - 8 - Nothing like as extended as he was on Sunday, but made a couple of steady enough saves, and to...
by claretspice
Wed Jan 22, 2020 11:20 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Well done Jay Rod
Replies: 49
Views: 3411

Re: Well done Jay Rod

The next goal of the decade poll had got off to a strong start.

Absolute worldie. The bloke has real quality. Dont underestimate the quality of the link up before the hit too by the way.
by claretspice
Wed Jan 22, 2020 11:07 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Simply outstanding
Replies: 50
Views: 2576

Re: Simply outstanding

Given what happened last season I was never sitting comfortably, but the truth is that after a slightly grim scarum first 20 minutes, we controlled the game utterly. We pressed bravely, used the ball smartly and got up the pitch, and defended with our lives on the relatively rare occasions that we h...
by claretspice
Wed Jan 22, 2020 4:17 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: BFC TRANSFER NEWS Jan 2020(MUST CONTAIN LINK)
Replies: 1278
Views: 134835

Re: BFC TRANSFER NEWS Jan 2020(MUST CONTAIN LINK)

So, by Claretspice's weird logic, Joe Allen would be more use to us than Dwight McNeil because he would possibly be with us longer and resale value isn't important? Am I getting this right? And who knows what wage demand Allen would make? And what use would another 32 year old midfielder on PL wage...
by claretspice
Wed Jan 22, 2020 1:54 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: BFC TRANSFER NEWS Jan 2020(MUST CONTAIN LINK)
Replies: 1278
Views: 134835

Re: BFC TRANSFER NEWS Jan 2020(MUST CONTAIN LINK)

You definitely didn't see Westwood struggle against Maddison fella. We dealt with Maddison pretty well. But in any event, that would be nothing to do with legs, in either case. That's a result of those two - and especially the increasingly impressive Grealish - being better players. Which is why bot...
by claretspice
Wed Jan 22, 2020 1:43 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: BFC TRANSFER NEWS Jan 2020(MUST CONTAIN LINK)
Replies: 1278
Views: 134835

Re: BFC TRANSFER NEWS Jan 2020(MUST CONTAIN LINK)

How about having the legs ?? Nothing wrong with the legs of a 29 year old whatsoever. See Westwood for example. As for the wages point - there's some truth in that, but only if you're saving material sums of money by buying younger players. Not sure that's true in the current market. The point abou...
by claretspice
Wed Jan 22, 2020 1:16 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: BFC TRANSFER NEWS Jan 2020(MUST CONTAIN LINK)
Replies: 1278
Views: 134835

Re: BFC TRANSFER NEWS Jan 2020(MUST CONTAIN LINK)

Resale value is important, but it's only important if you believe the resale value will materially exceed the initial cost of the player. Lets say Joe Allen cost us £5 million. Fair enough, the resale value isn't going to be massive once he turns 30. But if you spend £15 million on a midfielder who...
by claretspice
Wed Jan 22, 2020 12:56 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: BFC TRANSFER NEWS Jan 2020(MUST CONTAIN LINK)
Replies: 1278
Views: 134835

Re: BFC TRANSFER NEWS Jan 2020(MUST CONTAIN LINK)

The age thing is nonsense. Most clubs work on the basis that their team turns over across around about a three year cycle (admittedly, this is not true for us recently, but even under Dyche it held until about 12 months ago). In three years time, Allen will be 32 - which is rarely too old. If we sig...
by claretspice
Wed Jan 22, 2020 12:46 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: BFC TRANSFER NEWS Jan 2020(MUST CONTAIN LINK)
Replies: 1278
Views: 134835

Re: BFC TRANSFER NEWS Jan 2020(MUST CONTAIN LINK)

I'd have no problem, per se, with Allen. He's exactly the sort of profile of player that we've mined to huge effect in recent seasons - good CV and undervalued because he's gone out of fashion a bit. See Westwood, Cork and others for other examples. The only note of caution I have is that he's short...
by claretspice
Tue Jan 21, 2020 2:35 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: JBG on his way back
Replies: 42
Views: 1913

Re: ARTICLE: JBG on his way back

Jbg played 44 games the season after the Lincoln game, including the world cup following the season.

That's when his troubles really started - he played the world cup and then started the following season incredibly early with the Europa League. I suspect that lack of a break was the real problem.
by claretspice
Tue Jan 21, 2020 1:31 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: JBG on his way back
Replies: 42
Views: 1913

Re: ARTICLE: JBG on his way back

Excellent news, although it has to be tempered with the knowledge that since the end of the 2017/18 season and the subsequent world cup these comebacks have been as regular as the breakdown that inevitably follows - so fingers crossed that this time he can break the cycle. i wouldn't be expecting ov...
by claretspice
Tue Jan 21, 2020 1:28 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: BFC TRANSFER NEWS Jan 2020(MUST CONTAIN LINK)
Replies: 1278
Views: 134835

Re: BFC TRANSFER NEWS Jan 2020(MUST CONTAIN LINK)

A deal including Wells would seem like a very obvious bit of business in respect of both Brownhill (who plays in a position we need to strengthen as a priority) and Eliason (who doesn't, but nonetheless sounds like he'd be a good addition).
by claretspice
Mon Jan 20, 2020 1:49 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Jeff Hendrick
Replies: 52
Views: 3143

Re: Jeff Hendrick

Part of Leicester’s game plan, particularly first half, was to close off our left and encourage us to go right. There was acres of space down our right side. Leicester had done their homework and we created very little from the right hand side all game. Hendrick is a good utility player and had som...
by claretspice
Mon Jan 20, 2020 1:43 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Dermot - No Foul
Replies: 57
Views: 3040

Re: Dermot - No Foul

Seemed to me to be quite straight forward - tackle was from the side rather than behind (i.e. not through the legs) and although the ball was played, the ankle was clipped first. That's a foul, every single time. So whilst I haven't seen exactly what Gallagher said, I can't understand the logic. As ...
by claretspice
Mon Jan 20, 2020 1:40 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: How do we move forward?
Replies: 28
Views: 1785

Re: How do we move forward?

Leicester had space because we had to drop deep and avoid space in behind. The two or three occasions we offered space, they scored, won a penalty or forced excellent saves from Pope. So obviously, that opens up the pitch elsewhere. Its partly our lack of pace which means that we get put under press...
by claretspice
Sun Jan 19, 2020 5:47 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Ben Mee
Replies: 149
Views: 6473

Re: Ben Mee

Caught for pace once on his side when he should have done more, found he didn't have the pace to cover Bardsley on another occasion. Other than that, pretty solid against a terrific counter-attacking team who have been making defences look short on pace for fun this season.
by claretspice
Sun Jan 19, 2020 5:45 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley v Leicester - Player Ratings
Replies: 108
Views: 4003

Re: Burnley v Leicester - Player Ratings

Against a better team, our limitations were obvious but so was a little bit more enterprise than we've shown recently. We got the breaks today, but sometimes you earn the right to ride your luck by showing the right sort of intent. Pope - 9 - Excellent penalty save and three of four other outstandin...
by claretspice
Sun Jan 19, 2020 8:52 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: BFC TRANSFER NEWS Jan 2020(MUST CONTAIN LINK)
Replies: 1278
Views: 134835

Re: BFC TRANSFER NEWS Jan 2020(MUST CONTAIN LINK)

No problem with us being interested in Fry. We need a potential long term replacement for Tarks at the top level and succession planning for that role is important. Doesn't remove the need for midfield reinforcements but we shouldn't complain at sorting one requirement because we haven't sorted anot...
by claretspice
Fri Jan 17, 2020 3:24 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Your team v Leicester
Replies: 33
Views: 1483

Re: Your team v Leicester

No great change of shape or approach, but some subtle changes which might help us be more effective. ---------------Pope Bardsley Tarks Mee Taylor Lennon Cork Westy McNeil ---------Rodriguez ----------Wood Delberately this is Jay plying behind Wood. There should be some fluidity particularly with Mc...
by claretspice
Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:21 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Barnes to have hernia surgery
Replies: 141
Views: 4769

Re: ARTICLE: Barnes to have hernia surgery

Ok - I get the product bit - I can't disagree with much of it. I just don't see it as surrender, I see it as a club at the maximum of it's capabilities (Financial, global reputation, location etc), still delivering results above the expected level of a club with that level of capability. I can't ag...
by claretspice
Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:06 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Barnes to have hernia surgery
Replies: 141
Views: 4769

Re: ARTICLE: Barnes to have hernia surgery

What does "Improve the product we offer to supports mean though spice?" Do you mean more attractive football? The flipside to that from a club, business, achievement perspective is that you're gambling something that is STILL performing towards the top end of reasonable expectation. Attracting new ...
by claretspice
Thu Jan 16, 2020 1:42 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Barnes to have hernia surgery
Replies: 141
Views: 4769

Re: ARTICLE: Barnes to have hernia surgery

What does capitalising mean Spice? We're in the bottom 6 in terms of expected finishing position each season. The club are top of that league table at the moment. Recent form hasn't been good, but the team are still at the absolute top of their expected finishing position. Capitalising may just not...
by claretspice
Thu Jan 16, 2020 1:19 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Barnes to have hernia surgery
Replies: 141
Views: 4769

Re: ARTICLE: Barnes to have hernia surgery

Well, I can help you. Here's some positives that you may have missed.... 1) Burnley football club, one of the smallest towns to have a football club have for the last 2 years competed in the Premier League. 2) For the last 2 years, Burnley fans have been fortunate enough to watch some of the best p...
by claretspice
Thu Jan 16, 2020 12:56 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Barnes to have hernia surgery
Replies: 141
Views: 4769

Re: ARTICLE: Barnes to have hernia surgery

A blow as losing any player is, but its become increasingly obvious in recent weeks that Barnes' effectiveness has been hugely compromised. There's certainly a legitimate point to be made that Dyche has persisted too long with Barnes - apart from anything else, it can't have helped Rodriguez' confid...
by claretspice
Thu Jan 16, 2020 11:18 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: BFC TRANSFER NEWS Jan 2020(MUST CONTAIN LINK)
Replies: 1278
Views: 134835

Re: BFC TRANSFER NEWS Jan 2020(MUST CONTAIN LINK)

If we signed a third left back before any other players then the balance would shift against Dyche. Fans are trying to stay loyal but it's not taking much for frustration boiling over. An unneeded signing when claiming poverty would be madness. No-one is talking about signing a third left back, tho...
by claretspice
Thu Jan 16, 2020 8:41 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: BFC TRANSFER NEWS Jan 2020(MUST CONTAIN LINK)
Replies: 1278
Views: 134835

Re: BFC TRANSFER NEWS Jan 2020(MUST CONTAIN LINK)

Because we had gaps to fill and younger players would have allowed us to reduce our contingent of older players. As it goes we spent about 12m on two players with no holding value, who might well be on higher wages than we could have paid to a couple of players in the early or mid stage of their ca...
by claretspice
Wed Jan 15, 2020 10:10 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: BFC TRANSFER NEWS Jan 2020(MUST CONTAIN LINK)
Replies: 1278
Views: 134835

Re: BFC TRANSFER NEWS Jan 2020(MUST CONTAIN LINK)

I'm not following why we needed a young left back or a young forward in the last window.

At left back, Taylor is first choice and in his mid 20s.

Up front Barnes and Wood were obviously first choice and we supplemented those two with Rodriguez.

When you overstate the case, you undermine it.
by claretspice
Wed Jan 15, 2020 9:28 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: BFC TRANSFER NEWS Jan 2020(MUST CONTAIN LINK)
Replies: 1278
Views: 134835

Re: BFC TRANSFER NEWS Jan 2020(MUST CONTAIN LINK)

If that is true, it doesn't seem like we've learned a single thing from our Summer of failure. Securing his services on loan was a longshot, trying to sign him permanently would have been a complete waste of time. Chasing after players that we like the look of, instead of quality players that we ha...
by claretspice
Tue Jan 14, 2020 12:27 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: BFC TRANSFER NEWS Jan 2020(MUST CONTAIN LINK)
Replies: 1278
Views: 134835

Re: BFC TRANSFER NEWS Jan 2020(MUST CONTAIN LINK)

With Barnes seeing a specialist I'd be extremely surprised if we allowed Vydra to go without being sure we had another striker in the building, and that doesn't currently seem likely. That sounds like social media speculation to me. I like the look of Brownhill and hes certainly been a long standing...
by claretspice
Fri Jan 10, 2020 4:43 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Team v Chelski
Replies: 47
Views: 1900

Re: Team v Chelski

For all the talk of how Hendrick is better defensively tucking in on the right there wasn't much evidence of that in the United game. The young lad Williams was basically allowed the freedom to do whatever he wanted down that side, Bardsley got no help whatsoever. Not really true. The issue we had ...
by claretspice
Fri Jan 10, 2020 4:41 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Team v Chelski
Replies: 47
Views: 1900

Re: Team v Chelski

Yeah that's true, but I think the main difference would be McNeil offers so much more out wide in comparison to Jeff which would ultimately decide on what we would do. He does, but away from home the job is primarily defensive. In fact, when this isn't true - we're more vulnerable, like at Spurs wh...
by claretspice
Fri Jan 10, 2020 4:21 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Team v Chelski
Replies: 47
Views: 1900

Re: Team v Chelski

If Jay isn't fit then I think Hendrick will play in the 10 role with Lennon on the right. More defensive than swapping McNeil in there. Then if we need to go at them later on we can either bring on Vydra for Hendrick or Bring on Brady for Hendrick and put him on the left with McNeil through the cen...
by claretspice
Fri Jan 10, 2020 4:10 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Team v Chelski
Replies: 47
Views: 1900

Re: Team v Chelski

With Bardsley likely to play, that rules out 3-5-2 for me. He's not a wing-back and against a side like Chelsea, it would be suicide. Away to one of the best sides in the league justifies 5 in midfield, although there's nobody who can play the lone role good enough IMO. The nearest we'll have is Ja...
by claretspice
Fri Jan 10, 2020 1:56 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Team v Chelski
Replies: 47
Views: 1900

Re: Team v Chelski

I suppose we went 5 at the back at Arsenal and Spurs last season, but I'd rather we didn't try it again.

If Jay is fit, then it's Goobs' team for me. If Jay is not fit, then its a 4-4-1-1 with Lennon coming in on the right, Hendrick switching to the left, and McNeil playing in behind Wood.
by claretspice
Thu Jan 09, 2020 5:46 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Barnes and JBG ruled out for Chelsea
Replies: 95
Views: 2692

Re: ARTICLE: Barnes and JBG ruled out for Chelsea

Well, there's this guy called Matej, and he's.. ...a handy player but not one who has pulled up trees, and Chelsea away is not the ideal place to reintegrate a player who probably won't give us much of a target to hit when we're penned in defensively, and who won't supplement the midfield in the wa...
by claretspice
Thu Jan 09, 2020 4:58 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Barnes and JBG ruled out for Chelsea
Replies: 95
Views: 2692

Re: ARTICLE: Barnes and JBG ruled out for Chelsea

Think it's fairly straightforward, this. If Jay is fit, he slots into a 442. Hendrick plays wide right, McNeil wide left. If Jay is not fit, then McNeil or Hendrick slots in behind Wood, and Lennon comes in on the right - which is probably fair enough because he deserves a go after impressing on Sat...
by claretspice
Wed Jan 08, 2020 6:36 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Villa want Jay Rod
Replies: 59
Views: 4155

Re: Villa want Jay Rod

Pretty obvious why he doesn't start every week. The partnership with Barnes and Wood has been very, very effective. We've struggled a bit recently and I think that's down to the injury Barnes has. It certainly has been effective, albeit that there have always been sorts of games against sorts of op...
by claretspice
Wed Jan 08, 2020 3:08 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Ademola Lookman
Replies: 26
Views: 3073

Re: Ademola Lookman

You'd have to say, he's exactly the sort of player we should be looking at - obviously talented, lost his way a bit - and in terms of adding some pace and dynamism to the side, he would also appear to play in a position where extra depth would be welcome. But I suspect that realistically, there will...
by claretspice
Mon Jan 06, 2020 3:32 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Things not well at the club?
Replies: 104
Views: 5904

Re: Things not well at the club?

Most organisations, when performing well, communicate from the point of view of a unified message. We have had various examples over the past week, of Manager and Chairman delivering slightly different messages about the same issue - recruitment. If there is a definitive view on this topic, i.e. th...
by claretspice
Sun Jan 05, 2020 9:46 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: The chairman’s comments on the transfer situation
Replies: 244
Views: 8540

Re: The chairman’s comments on the transfer situation

You post as though the team are cut adrift at the bottom of the league. rather than with a reasonable buffer above the trap door when you talk about maintaining the good times. Clubs who go down, having been consistently battling to maintain their premier league status usually have a smaller base, ...
by claretspice
Sat Jan 04, 2020 10:00 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: The chairman’s comments on the transfer situation
Replies: 244
Views: 8540

Re: The chairman’s comments on the transfer situation

We get into the Premier League and suddenly because we are struggling for the last couple of months, it's a crisis. I think some need to realise what we've had in the last 3-4 years is as good as it gets. I dont think there are too many fans who don't accept that. I think the concern is the lack of...
by claretspice
Sat Jan 04, 2020 9:26 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: The chairman’s comments on the transfer situation
Replies: 244
Views: 8540

Re: The chairman’s comments on the transfer situation

Some laudable sentiments from Garlick, but theres a deeply depressing undertone there. It's all very well talking about making sure the club is stewarded for future generations, but Garlick finds himself in a position to do more than that by a combination of good judgment (appointing and sticking by...