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by NL Claret
Sun Oct 06, 2019 8:52 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brother's playing together
Replies: 67
Views: 1626

Re: Brother's playing together

Don't think they played in the PL but played in the same Doncaster Rovers team - Glynn and Ian Snodin.
by NL Claret
Sun Sep 29, 2019 11:56 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Matt Lowton
Replies: 22
Views: 1821

Re: Matt Lowton

Remember “UTC posters” never ever criticise the club. Just cheerlead all that time or talk about Brexit. Thanks Swizzley, I don't think social media and football is for me anymore. I'll leave it to you and jrbbfc, I do admire his dedication to UTC and his negativity. NL will log in again in a week ...
by NL Claret
Sun Sep 29, 2019 11:33 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Matt Lowton
Replies: 22
Views: 1821

Re: Matt Lowton

We're on a Burnley FC message board. People are obviously going to discuss our players. If some people think with our millions of pounds we can improve on Matt Lowton I don't see the issue. Would be very dull if every thread was about how wonderful all our players are, how amazing Dyche and the Boa...
by NL Claret
Sun Sep 29, 2019 10:38 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Matt Lowton
Replies: 22
Views: 1821

Re: Matt Lowton

Agree totally but read the match day thread and both Lowton and Pieters are hammered. It’s become the norm, sadly. I don't tend to bother reading the posts (especially player ratings) much due to the level of sh!te posted, it's usually a case of if the UTC posters likes / dislikes a certain player ...
by NL Claret
Sun Sep 29, 2019 10:04 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Matt Lowton
Replies: 22
Views: 1821

Re: Matt Lowton

There doesn't have to be a scapegoat, why is there the need to point the blame? Is there something wrong?
by NL Claret
Thu Sep 19, 2019 11:04 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Laurent Banide in at Oldham
Replies: 23
Views: 2542

Re: Laurent Banide in at Oldham

My prediction was a month out. :shock:

The last I read was that Oldham have a relatively new stand that they don't own and is currently closed. :!:
by NL Claret
Thu Sep 19, 2019 5:52 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Premier League TV Appearances 2019/20
Replies: 32
Views: 2981

Re: Premier League TV Appearances 2019/20

Phil Bird retweeted a tweet from amazon prime video sport who said we are on twice in December. Guessing midweek game / Boxing Day ?
by NL Claret
Sun Sep 15, 2019 1:48 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Lennon & Pieters
Replies: 64
Views: 5836

Re: Lennon & Pieters

The amount you constantly whinge about “UTC posters” it’s a wonder you continue to post on here. I like the occasional post every now and again just to get a nibble, thank you for obliging again Swizzley. Used to read the message board regularly, hardly bother these days as there's rarely anything ...
by NL Claret
Sun Sep 15, 2019 10:41 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Lennon & Pieters
Replies: 64
Views: 5836

Re: Lennon & Pieters

Really don’t understand the bashing that Pieters gets on here, it is quite irrational. Without Hart in the team and some are realising Hendrick isn't as bad as they thought , UTC posters are scratching around for a scapegoat. UTC posters like Taylor so Pieters is easy to dislike, I think that's how...
by NL Claret
Thu Sep 12, 2019 9:12 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Bury : No Wages
Replies: 734
Views: 50696

Re: Bury : No Wages

Council voted against buying the ground / club which as a council tax payer in the borough is the correct decision. Instead they will look to find a suitable buyer.
by NL Claret
Wed Sep 11, 2019 9:27 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Bury : No Wages
Replies: 734
Views: 50696

Re: Bury : No Wages

Councillor James Daly, what is his connection with Dale? How many £s does he expect Bury Council to be able to spend on buying a football club? I'd assume one or two of Bury's councillors were supporters of their town club - which is not unreasonable - will they all have to remove themselves from a...
by NL Claret
Sun Sep 08, 2019 12:54 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Drink water injury
Replies: 463
Views: 30323

Re: Drink water injury

Tend not to read much on here however I wouldn't be surprised if it is the same UTC posters who were criticising the length of the loan period when he signed who have now changed their tune saying he is a bad apple and needs to go back to Chelsea now.
by NL Claret
Sat Sep 07, 2019 1:21 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Managers if we'd gone down.
Replies: 47
Views: 2317

Re: Managers if we'd gone down.

Cast your minds back to December and some were calling for Dyche to be sacked. When challenged about who should replace him they would inform you that it was not for them to decide, the chairman and directors were paid to do that. A very odd response indeed. This thread nails why Dyche should not ha...
by NL Claret
Mon Sep 02, 2019 12:25 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Bury : No Wages
Replies: 734
Views: 50696

Re: Bury : No Wages

Surely the elected MP is only doing the best by his constituents. Jobs etc are reliant on the club... I'm pretty sure he is / was a season ticket holder and is a bury lad so as well as constituents is probably massively upset and angry on a personal level. Played cricket with a few times about 20 y...
by NL Claret
Sun Sep 01, 2019 10:08 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: A reality check
Replies: 26
Views: 1978

Re: A reality check

A reality check? For who?

Liverpool are European champions and a very good side with title aspirations, Burnley are not.

4 points from 4 is a good start for us. Next 4 games are ones where we will be competitive and have a chance of getting something.

Reality check :roll:
by NL Claret
Sat Aug 31, 2019 10:24 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Pub to watch today near Heysham please
Replies: 3
Views: 249

Re: Pub to watch today near Heysham please

Went in Heysham Cricket Club the other week. Very friendly place and have Sky Sports.

Others that I've not been in.

Old Hall
Strawberry Garden
The Golf club
by NL Claret
Sat Aug 31, 2019 9:49 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Bury : No Wages
Replies: 734
Views: 50696

Re: Bury : No Wages

For the last time. The EFL did not let Dale buy the club. There is nothing to stop this happening. He failed fit and proper as he could not show he had the funds and probably the intention of paying wages or bills. He still went ahead and became the registered owner. The EFL problem is that their pu...
by NL Claret
Thu Aug 29, 2019 9:29 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Bury : No Wages
Replies: 734
Views: 50696

Re: Bury : No Wages

The CVA is now being investigated following the revelations about RCR Holdings https://www.theguardian.com/football/2019/aug/29/bury-cva-investigation https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/insolvency-practitioner-sanctions-steven-wiseglass-3-july-2018 Came out a few weeks back about this chara...
by NL Claret
Wed Aug 28, 2019 6:20 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Ex-EFL
Replies: 31
Views: 1813

Re: Ex-EFL

you could argue that AFC Fylde are a phoenix club, given that they were started as a result of Blackpool's Oyston woes Kirkham Town merged with Wesham in 1988 to become Kirkham and Wesham, not sure that is a Pheonix? They joined the counties as Kirkham and Wesham in about 2007. Think if you read Si...
by NL Claret
Wed Aug 28, 2019 5:36 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Ex-EFL
Replies: 31
Views: 1813

Re: Ex-EFL

Yeah well that's okay bud because you're a Claret. I was getting at the 'Manchester' fans. Who shouted hypocrite? I just think we should welcome our fans from far off places that's all. ;) ;) ;) Consider yourself let off House Boy :D I'd guess in Bury the order goes something like this. Man U Man C...
by NL Claret
Wed Aug 28, 2019 4:08 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Ex-EFL
Replies: 31
Views: 1813

Re: Ex-EFL

The only thing I find odd is that it has been pointed out that Bury (the town) is today in mourning. Whilst I can understand this I wonder how many of those in Bury who are upset about it ever actually went to support them? Bury has a population just shy of 183k (well over twice the size of Burnley...
by NL Claret
Wed Aug 28, 2019 2:32 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Bury : No Wages
Replies: 734
Views: 50696

Re: Bury : No Wages

What's the situation with Bury's ground? So far as I can gather it appears to have been shifted off to a different company but is that company part of the administration or a separate company that is still a going concern? I think I saw that there was a covenant on the ground meaning it can only be...
by NL Claret
Wed Aug 28, 2019 2:28 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Bury : No Wages
Replies: 734
Views: 50696

Re: Bury : No Wages

I have no knowledge whatsoever about covenants, but if there is no sport to be played on it, then at some point the covenant must surely become void? Like letting a listing fall into unsafe conditions so you can knock it down and use the land? ...listing is shorthand for 'listed building...' Mill M...
by NL Claret
Wed Aug 28, 2019 10:41 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Bury : No Wages
Replies: 734
Views: 50696

Re: Bury : No Wages

There's an air of gloom around the town today. GMR were reporting it as like a bereavement. Think it was Newman who said Gigg Lane was the problem due to charges placed against it and leases which probably goes back to Stewart Day's reign. Jamie Hoyland was very fuming , he played 100 games for the ...
by NL Claret
Wed Aug 28, 2019 12:14 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Bury : No Wages
Replies: 734
Views: 50696

Re: Bury : No Wages

I've heard plenty of interviews on Talksport with Bury fans and all those interviewed said that if they couldn't get Dale out of the club they would rather form a new club and start again, every single one of them I don't listen to that shite station. Not heard any bury fans on GMR say anything as ...
by NL Claret
Wed Aug 28, 2019 12:13 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Bury : No Wages
Replies: 734
Views: 50696

Re: Bury : No Wages

fidelcastro wrote:I'm not sure I've ever seen us win at Gigg Lane.

My timing may seem inappropriate, but when was the last time we did taste victory there?


Sherpa van trophy on the way to Wembley was 1.
by NL Claret
Tue Aug 27, 2019 11:40 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Bury : No Wages
Replies: 734
Views: 50696

Re: Bury : No Wages

lots of them wanted this to happen just to get rid of the owner, still, a very sad state of affairs I live in Bury and haven't heard any fans or locals say this, perhaps the word on the streets of Vegas is different. Sad day for the town, the community, local businesses, staff, fans, players, forme...
by NL Claret
Tue Aug 27, 2019 3:53 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Bury : No Wages
Replies: 734
Views: 50696

Re: Bury : No Wages

After some optimism and fans from a number of clubs cleaning the ground up it is not looking good for the Shakers. Will be a sad day for the town and football in general.
by NL Claret
Mon Aug 26, 2019 9:14 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: What's the most annoying late goal you've seen us concede?
Replies: 58
Views: 2526

Re: What's the most annoying late goal you've seen us concede?

Sanchez pen at Arsenal after Gray levelled on 90 mins That's the one that sticks in my mind, dragged Mrs NL to the pub when I realised it was on. Sank about 4 pints in the 2nd half and swearing and shouting abuse at the big screen in a pub in Warton near Carnforth. A bit later on my foul mood conti...
by NL Claret
Mon Aug 26, 2019 3:37 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Bolton
Replies: 1302
Views: 97492

Re: Bolton

The main culprit for the demise of Bolton is is the deceased Phil Gartside. What a vile piece of work he was. Conned Eddie Davis and conned the club and it’s supporters. I hope there is a hell He deserves it. Towards the end Gartside was ill and this was reflected in his decision making. Other empl...
by NL Claret
Mon Aug 26, 2019 2:01 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Bolton
Replies: 1302
Views: 97492

Re: Bolton

At 5pm on Friday August 23, the completion of the sale of the football club and the hotel had been agreed by all parties and undertakings had been issued by all solicitors except those of Ken Anderson. Devastatingly, on Saturday morning that deal collapsed. At this stage, there seems little point in...
by NL Claret
Mon Aug 26, 2019 1:47 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Bolton
Replies: 1302
Views: 97492

Re: Bolton

I'd imagine most Bolton fans would like to rewind the clock back to 1997 and redevelop Burnden rather than building a stadium they could not afford. The hotel has been the only thing that has made a profit. Most of the Bolton fans I know only gave it a couple of seasons at the Reebok then packed in ...
by NL Claret
Mon Aug 26, 2019 1:12 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Bolton
Replies: 1302
Views: 97492

Re: Bolton

Ken Anderson claims the outstanding signature on the FV deal is that of Keir Gordon, the solicitor of late #BWFC owner Eddie Davies. He adds that the situation is "outside my control". A full statement is expected in due course through his legal reps. #bwfc Latest from Iles. I wouldn't be ...
by NL Claret
Mon Aug 26, 2019 1:08 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Poor following yesterday
Replies: 53
Views: 3762

Re: Poor following yesterday

And often there were so few of us that you had time to speak to everyone. Barnet away on a Tuesday night! Big following which probably exceeded the capacity for the terrace we were in. Just glad to get out alive with the moronic policing by the Met. The fence was torn down to stop a crush, marching...
by NL Claret
Mon Aug 26, 2019 11:24 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Bolton
Replies: 1302
Views: 97492

Re: Bolton

I've always disliked Bolton as I'm over the border in Bury. Throughout school I was constantly arguing with Bolton supporting kids. Even though the dislike I wouldn't want to see the club in this position and feel for their fans and staff. There's no gloating just sadness and pity. Problems deep roo...
by NL Claret
Mon Aug 26, 2019 10:51 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Bolton
Replies: 1302
Views: 97492

Re: Bolton

Four options for Wanderers now.


KA agrees to what was agreed on Friday.

EDT compromise their position.

Someone comes in with a cash bid for club.

Admins commence liquidation.
#BWFC

Tweet from Marc Iles from the BEN. EDT = Eddie Davies Trust
by NL Claret
Wed Aug 21, 2019 11:48 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Liverpool Airport transfers
Replies: 26
Views: 1700

Re: Liverpool Airport transfers

Consider the hotel across the road from the airport, Hampton/ Hilton. We got a decent deal on a one night plus long stay parking.
by NL Claret
Wed Aug 21, 2019 1:10 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Bury : No Wages
Replies: 734
Views: 50696

Re: Bury : No Wages

"It’s come to this. Ex #Buryfc director Joy Hart has locked herself to the front of the stadium in protest at the club’s plight. Her father Les Hart is a Bury legend and has a stand named after him"

Tweet from someone at the BBC.
by NL Claret
Wed Aug 21, 2019 1:05 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Bury : No Wages
Replies: 734
Views: 50696

Re: Bury : No Wages

Going off the BT article, I think Dale is holding out for his £3.6m director loan in full. It could be questioned where the loan actually went along with Carlisle's ticket money. Think prospective buyers are offering him 25p in the £. The ex Port Vale chairman Norman Smurthwhaite could still technic...
by NL Claret
Tue Aug 20, 2019 11:11 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Bury : No Wages
Replies: 734
Views: 50696

Re: Bury : No Wages

https://www.onevalefan.co.uk/2013/06/bu ... ern-grows/

Glen Thomas was the one I was trying to think of.

Don't know too much about the Port Vale situation over the past few years but another connection to Bury FC with Norman what ever he's called.
by NL Claret
Tue Aug 20, 2019 11:02 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Oldham Athletic vs Burnley
Replies: 56
Views: 2788

Re: Oldham Athletic vs Burnley

The Grand National should be one of the later games in the season. Usually around 7th April The end of CT's post mentioned it was during an unbeaten run late in the season - Stan's first season not the promotion season. Missed the early season games at Oldham as I was always playing cricket, probab...
by NL Claret
Tue Aug 20, 2019 10:56 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Bury : No Wages
Replies: 734
Views: 50696

Re: Bury : No Wages

Seems the prospective buyer is Norman Smurthwaite who has just left Port Vale. I don’t think you would find a Vale fan with a good word for him. :o http://twohundredpercent.net/a-warning-message-to-bury-fc-from-port-vale/ This was from 6 years ago! I can't think of the name of a Bury board member u...
by NL Claret
Tue Aug 20, 2019 10:11 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Oldham Athletic vs Burnley
Replies: 56
Views: 2788

Re: Oldham Athletic vs Burnley

ClaretTony wrote:Second away game of the season and I think Payton also scored in the 1-1 draw there in the previous season during that late unbeaten run.


Bobbyjo won the grand national on the same day. It was even cold in April at Boundary Park.
by NL Claret
Tue Aug 20, 2019 12:39 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Bolton
Replies: 1302
Views: 97492

Re: Bolton

That's one option open to them,because as things stand they could be a non-league club in a couple of years anyway. At least if they can start again at the bottom of the pyramid,but be debt-free it allows the club to grow again. The major problem would be a lack of infrastructure,i.e ground etc,the...
by NL Claret
Mon Aug 19, 2019 7:27 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Bolton
Replies: 1302
Views: 97492

Re: Bolton

Some players are expected to miss training on Thursday to collect their GCSE results.
by NL Claret
Mon Aug 19, 2019 7:06 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Bolton
Replies: 1302
Views: 97492

Re: Bolton

Doncaster Rovers chief executive Gavin Baldwin has spoken following Bolton Wanderers’ announcement that they have postponed Tuesday’s Sky Bet League One fixture. He said: “Bolton Wanderers have postponed this game without the agreement of Rovers or the EFL, and we were surprised to learn of the news...
by NL Claret
Mon Aug 19, 2019 6:08 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Bolton
Replies: 1302
Views: 97492

Re: Bolton

Is this the same EFL that allowed Dale to buy Bury even though he allegedly FAILED the fit and proper test?? He failed the fit and proper test however there's nothing to stop Dale becoming the owner. The EFL penalised Bury with a player registration embargo. The rules are shot, Bury should have bee...
by NL Claret
Mon Aug 19, 2019 5:48 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Bolton
Replies: 1302
Views: 97492

Re: Bolton

It makes a mockery of the competition. Tranmere get 3 pts and 5 goals yet Doncaster could play this game after the registration embargo has been lifted against a totally different Bolton team.
by NL Claret
Sun Aug 18, 2019 9:16 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Charlie Taylor
Replies: 37
Views: 3662

Re: Charlie Taylor

Bordeauxclaret wrote:Did we try Taylor on the left wing in a game last season?


A Europa qualifier I think.
by NL Claret
Sun Aug 18, 2019 9:11 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Charlie Taylor
Replies: 37
Views: 3662

Re: Charlie Taylor

Why not just play Lennon there?

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