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by arise_sir_charge
Sat Nov 28, 2020 5:04 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Benson
Replies: 35
Views: 1958

Re: Benson

A bit hard for any midfielder for Burnley to show dynamism in a game like today. He did his job as well as anyone could reasonably expect, was tidy, confident and he impressed me in the Carabao games too. I’d infinitely rather he was playing than Dale Stephens, personally. Don’t disagree with that ...
by arise_sir_charge
Sat Nov 28, 2020 4:58 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Benson
Replies: 35
Views: 1958

Re: Benson

Looks neat and tidy but not particularly dynamic today.

If Brownhill is fit, he has to play ahead of him.
by arise_sir_charge
Sat Nov 28, 2020 4:57 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Peacock-Farrell set for league debut
Replies: 79
Views: 4100

Re: ARTICLE: Peacock-Farrell set for league debut

wilks_bfc wrote:
Sat Nov 28, 2020 4:50 pm
Little harsh.

They have only had 6 shots on target and I’m not sure Pope would have done much better against them
Not harsh, true.
by arise_sir_charge
Sat Nov 28, 2020 4:47 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Peacock-Farrell set for league debut
Replies: 79
Views: 4100

Re: ARTICLE: Peacock-Farrell set for league debut

Sadly he looked like a rabbit in the headlights all day. Don’t think he’s made a single save and been fortunate with two blunders.
by arise_sir_charge
Sat Nov 28, 2020 12:11 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 4237
Views: 276337

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

I’ve read a few times on here that Farnell is a brilliant self publicist......Jesus, I’d hate to read what was said about him if he wasn’t!! Bobinho, I have no idea what the plans of ALK are. As I’ve said multiple times now I’m prepared to wait and see and cast judgement once known. However the poin...
by arise_sir_charge
Sat Nov 28, 2020 11:10 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Lower House Pro 2021
Replies: 19
Views: 1017

Re: Lower House Pro 2021

I’d say we put up plenty of match winning totals but don’t build anywhere near enough pressure with the ball.

Seen a comment above saying he can’t bat. We will see with that but I’m not in the slightest worried in that regard.
by arise_sir_charge
Sat Nov 28, 2020 1:10 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 4237
Views: 276337

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

It’s the word “investment” that worries me. Some big conglomerate wants to “invest” in the club. That’s great, but what do they mean, what do they ACTUALLY mean by “invest”? They are businessmen, which means at some point they are going to want to see a return on whatever amount it is they are putt...
by arise_sir_charge
Fri Nov 27, 2020 8:34 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 4237
Views: 276337

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

You know our current finances? I don't of course. I'm thinking - still paying all wages, no income from matches, possible requirement to pay back money for cancelled overseas TV contract. A quick read of this thread will reassure you as we apparently have in excess of £200m of assets that the lawye...
by arise_sir_charge
Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:17 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 4237
Views: 276337

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Hipper wrote:
Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:10 pm
I think we have established that we are not like other Premier League clubs.




Maybe. Or maybe no cash for day to day running?
If you seriously think that we’d be bust now but for having a few quid saved up then fair enough. Realistically though you’re talking utter nonsense.
by arise_sir_charge
Fri Nov 27, 2020 2:29 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 4237
Views: 276337

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Do you mean Gifting the club 20-30m per year? Or do you mean investing to grow the clubs revenue by enough to be able to spend 20-30m more per year? If so, where do you think they can grow the revenue? That's not for me to determine to be honest. That's upto the people spending circa £200m to take ...
by arise_sir_charge
Fri Nov 27, 2020 2:18 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 4237
Views: 276337

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

You're talking 20 to 30 million a year there. That's a hell of lot of money. Our wage bill was 29 million in our first season in the Premier League under SD, 61 million when we got back up and it had increased to 86 million in the last set of accounts. The spare cash for signings has gone. In 2019 ...
by arise_sir_charge
Fri Nov 27, 2020 11:47 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 4237
Views: 276337

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Post Fri Nov 27, 2020 11:14 am arise_sir_charge wrote: ↑I find posts like this and the one from bfcjg odd, but accept that may just be me. I have never once sat at a game or at home thinking about Burnley Football Club and thought to myself "Well, I'm glad it's a bloke from Burnley that owns it". I...
by arise_sir_charge
Fri Nov 27, 2020 11:09 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Lower House Pro 2021
Replies: 19
Views: 1017

Re: Lower House Pro 2021

That looks a damn good signing by the House. Well done to arise_sir_charge and his team for getting that one over the line. Parry also shares a birthday with some decent people. :D Thank you Tony. Stephen is a great cricketer but he also comes across a a great lad. He had many opportunities as I'm ...
by arise_sir_charge
Fri Nov 27, 2020 11:06 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 4237
Views: 276337

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

I'm very much with Dark Cloud on this. At a personal level, being owned purely as a business will take something of the edge off my lifelong passion for the club, and if I'm honest I would prefer to play in a lower division than be transformed in that way. On the other hand, I have an eight-year-ol...
by arise_sir_charge
Fri Nov 27, 2020 8:10 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 4237
Views: 276337

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Untinted Glasses wrote:
Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:58 am
RIP BFC
😂😂😂😂
by arise_sir_charge
Thu Nov 26, 2020 9:04 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 4237
Views: 276337

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Some people revel in the “everything is **** mentality” and it’s prevalent in many posts on this thread. Many factors will affect the club a player chooses and so if the pay is the same we’ve as good of a chance as anybody. Look at Andre Gray, he chose us over a big city club in Bristol, we have bea...
by arise_sir_charge
Thu Nov 26, 2020 3:26 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 4237
Views: 276337

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

I think that even if we can compete transfer funds-wise and wages-wise against those clubs, we will still be the least attractive club compared to them to potential signings. That's the spirit! Need to up your game though, you forgot to mention "The Orient Game" just make sure we all know our place.
by arise_sir_charge
Thu Nov 26, 2020 8:41 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 4237
Views: 276337

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

We may be talking about different occasions, this was something that never happened, I can’t remember the specifics which is frustrating but also not required. My point, long winded as it may be, sometimes things look like they are 100% happening but at the last minute don’t It was the return of Al...
by arise_sir_charge
Wed Nov 25, 2020 4:51 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 4237
Views: 276337

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Maybe wait until a takeover is complete or falls through , or whatever happens in the end whenever that may be, before deciding if someone did or don’t know something about it? Yes, seems a novel concept on here. A bit like waiting to find out who takes over and what's involved before deciding if i...
by arise_sir_charge
Wed Nov 25, 2020 11:21 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 4237
Views: 276337

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Wed Nov 25, 2020 11:15 am
Not believing every word he said is hardly being unfair on him
No but calling him a bluffer and saying he is wrong, with no evidence at all to support that being the case is.
by arise_sir_charge
Wed Nov 25, 2020 10:44 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 4237
Views: 276337

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Wed Nov 25, 2020 10:34 am
Over egged is being polite :D More a case of someone putting 2 + 2 together and getting 7854236614214

Bluffed his way through some replies but then got very defensive and narked when challenged and exposed
How do you know that Northern Powerhouse isn't a factor?
by arise_sir_charge
Mon Nov 23, 2020 1:51 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 4237
Views: 276337

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

A word of advice to Mr Garlick. Make sure the money is in your bank account before you sign over your shares. My prediction is that neither bid will be successful due to ‘a complete lack of clarity where the funds for the bid are coming from’. Have you thought of being one of Alan Sugar's trusted a...
by arise_sir_charge
Sun Nov 22, 2020 1:03 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: What are you looking forward to in 2021
Replies: 44
Views: 755

Re: What are you looking forward to in 2021

Hopefully a proper cricket season.
by arise_sir_charge
Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:05 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Jordan North in Welsh jungle
Replies: 282
Views: 17847

Re: Jordan North in Welsh jungle

It’s just Dyche being Dyche.

He often comes across as a complete arse in interviews.

We’ve discussed it many times on here but personally I find his sense of humour toe curling.
by arise_sir_charge
Fri Nov 20, 2020 5:00 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 4237
Views: 276337

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Chris Boden @bodenknights Just had an update in terms of the takeover - led to believe deal is in documentation now, i.e. takeover bid from ALK has been sent to chairman and shareholders detailing offer 4:34 PM · Nov 20, 2020·Twitter for iPhone Chris Boden @bodenknights Now, Farnell/El Kashashy gro...
by arise_sir_charge
Fri Nov 20, 2020 4:48 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 4237
Views: 276337

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Leisure wrote:
Fri Nov 20, 2020 3:29 pm
Just googled G-Tech and I'm none the wiser.
Couple of links to help you out.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barry_Kilby

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GTECH_Corporation
by arise_sir_charge
Fri Nov 20, 2020 2:08 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 4237
Views: 276337

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Barry K is totally exempt from any critiscism whatsoever as he's a thoroughly great bloke and he was brilliant for BFC when pretty much nobody else was prepared to buy into it. He should be on the next New year's honours list imo and I really don't give a monkey's how he got rich. To me it shows th...
by arise_sir_charge
Fri Nov 20, 2020 10:06 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 4237
Views: 276337

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Lots of people seem to have a major issue with gambling sponsors, money coming from gulf states etc but totally disregard what made Barry Kilby wealthy enough to buy the club. Personally I’ve no issue at all with gambling sponsors and applaud Barry for being a self made man but plenty of others on h...
by arise_sir_charge
Fri Nov 20, 2020 7:01 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 4237
Views: 276337

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Vichai Srivaddhanaprabha, Thomas Werner, Fosun International Limited,Mike Ashley and others would take issue with the 'dubious practices' tag. And even people that may not be too easily dispute your assertion as to how they gained their wealth would definitely take issue with you saying they apply ...
by arise_sir_charge
Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:21 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: The Mail claims Sean Dyche profit shares in the sale of Academy graduates
Replies: 64
Views: 2893

Re: The Mail claims Sean Dyche profit shares in the sale of Academy graduates

The way I look at it, is he only makes money IF he is successful. It also gives him a good reason to push the kids, as he hasn't you have to presume they aren't ready yet. No problem with this. Yet you are massively against the muted Egyptian takeover which is surely in the same boat.......they wil...
by arise_sir_charge
Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:17 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: The Mail claims Sean Dyche profit shares in the sale of Academy graduates
Replies: 64
Views: 2893

Re: The Mail claims Sean Dyche profit shares in the sale of Academy graduates

Quite a bit, but the fact you are asking this question means it is too hard to explain Go on, humour me, but if it's the same as the response above about those people not wearing tracksuits then don't bother. As for tax efficiency, SD having such a clause in his contract suggests any payment would ...
by arise_sir_charge
Thu Nov 19, 2020 9:56 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: The Mail claims Sean Dyche profit shares in the sale of Academy graduates
Replies: 64
Views: 2893

Re: The Mail claims Sean Dyche profit shares in the sale of Academy graduates

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Thu Nov 19, 2020 8:56 am
Will Farnell or the Egyptian be the manager of the football club ?
What difference does that make?

There are multiple reasons why such people could have such an arrangement. I'm curious what the reaction would be on here.
by arise_sir_charge
Thu Nov 19, 2020 8:47 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: The Mail claims Sean Dyche profit shares in the sale of Academy graduates
Replies: 64
Views: 2893

Re: The Mail claims Sean Dyche profit shares in the sale of Academy graduates

Wonder what the reaction would have been had Charltonboy or one of his ilk come in here and said it’s likely Farnell or the Egyptian will have a deal where they will benefit in some way from academy player sales?

I suspect it wouldn’t be very favourable.
by arise_sir_charge
Tue Nov 17, 2020 8:11 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 4237
Views: 276337

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Covenants can be released as part of the purchase of land or property or business - as long as you can get to the person or entity who issued the covenant. Whether they insist this covenant remains as part of any sale none of us have a clue - and similarly any purchaser may not be bothered about th...
by arise_sir_charge
Tue Nov 17, 2020 6:58 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 4237
Views: 276337

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

How do you know they can’t sell the ground ? Anyway that’s irrelevant - I agree with everything you have said. The point I was making was that these are simply future plans and strategy and whilst it’s good to know for existing shareholders and fans it’s not something by its very definition that yo...
by arise_sir_charge
Tue Nov 17, 2020 6:28 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 4237
Views: 276337

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Of course its all that - but what you do and how you do it after the purchase is not something that the current owner will have any control over. Yes Garlick and the rest of the board will be asking for proposals of how the club will be ran after the purchase - but building these assurances in cont...
by arise_sir_charge
Tue Nov 17, 2020 4:50 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 4237
Views: 276337

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

It requires proof of funds - that is totally different to actually transferring the money to a beneficiaries account. TVC - This suggests something along the lines you've just mentioned. Nothing happens unless £200m changes hands. That's the long and short of it that not a lot of people on here see...
by arise_sir_charge
Tue Nov 17, 2020 2:37 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 4237
Views: 276337

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

I know what you mean but I give you Michael Knighton doing keep ups on the Old Trafford pitch !! I know it’s a long time ago but there has been a lot of false dawn takeovers at all levels of clubs some of which can get very far in the process before being thrown out or failing. Yes but you sort of ...
by arise_sir_charge
Tue Nov 17, 2020 1:52 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 4237
Views: 276337

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

There seems to be a lot of giving Farnell the benefit of the doubt coming from yourself. I accept that you may be party to more information about any prospective deal than some of us and there may even some detail that you have which is leading to you being seemingly a lot more comfortable with Far...
by arise_sir_charge
Tue Nov 17, 2020 1:07 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 4237
Views: 276337

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Let's just hope that the bloke now in charge of Charlton is someone their fans are actually happy with.
by arise_sir_charge
Sun Nov 15, 2020 5:02 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 4237
Views: 276337

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

It surprises me how many people are prepared to accept a straight read across from business principles to something that MG described more in terms of a passion and a hobby - "a dream come true". I read that his wife, then girlfriend, wrote to Jim'll Fix it for him to be a BFC Director for the day....
by arise_sir_charge
Sun Nov 15, 2020 1:44 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 4237
Views: 276337

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

I have been in contact with Charlton since the day the Elkashasy/Farnell deal became public. I last heard from them two days ago with some information on a contact of Farnell but nothing on this possible speculation. I've also been involved the FSA who are looking at other avenues and I'll be picki...
by arise_sir_charge
Sat Nov 14, 2020 10:59 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 4237
Views: 276337

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

People need to understand that this has been an exceptional year in terms of finances as a result of the pandemic. No chairman could have handled the situation better than Mike Garlick. FFS.....I reckon any person on here could have decided “not sure so let’s pull the shutters down and do absolutel...
by arise_sir_charge
Thu Nov 12, 2020 11:18 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 4237
Views: 276337

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

whentheballmoves wrote:
Thu Nov 12, 2020 11:06 pm
Ballpark figure, Tony?
Based on the figures being discussed, each share is roughly worth between £1,500 and £1,800.
by arise_sir_charge
Tue Nov 10, 2020 7:46 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 4237
Views: 276337

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Burnley are in the exact same position. Your man wants out.... .so long as someone pays him and the other shareholders £200m. Fixed it for you as you missed the fundamental difference between the two situations. As for those saying “find the good news about him”.....why? I for one am not hailing th...
by arise_sir_charge
Mon Nov 09, 2020 8:22 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 4237
Views: 276337

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

boatshed bill wrote:
Mon Nov 09, 2020 7:32 pm
I'm just amazed at how easily so many people get seduced by money.
Even dodgy money ;)
Here we go again.

Not sure anybody is being seduced by money. People are simply seeking more detail before deciding whether any of this is good or bad.

Some people are against a takeover regardless.
by arise_sir_charge
Mon Nov 09, 2020 5:49 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 4237
Views: 276337

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

I don’t think anyone is having a go. The problem is there doesn’t appear to be any substance to what they are saying, no understanding that this is a private transaction over which we have no control and also that the clubs, including Charlton, that have been cited bear no resemblance to our situati...
by arise_sir_charge
Mon Nov 09, 2020 4:17 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 4237
Views: 276337

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Billy Balfour wrote:
Mon Nov 09, 2020 1:51 pm
Blimey. What have some of you become on here. Squabbling with a Charlton supporter who registered on here with our own interests at heart. Embarrassing or what.
Who's squabbling?

Just asking a relatively straightforward question.
by arise_sir_charge
Mon Nov 09, 2020 12:49 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 4237
Views: 276337

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

I understand that our dossiers have reached the Burnley boardroom, so if you do go ahead with Farnell after that, and all the other media questions, then certainly more fool them, but I really doubt it. I am happy to DM anyone who wants more info on why we dislike Farnell. I won't post here as ther...