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by NottsClaret
Wed Apr 08, 2020 10:14 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: UK media & Lockdown
Replies: 57
Views: 1470

Re: UK media & Lockdown

They need an exit plan and a good one. People demanding an ever tighter lockdown.. what for? Infections are slowing down, that's the plan, it's working. No lockdown is going to eradicate this virus. I sometimes think there's a good proportion of people who yearn for a 1970s East German police state....
by NottsClaret
Tue Apr 07, 2020 5:10 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Covid-19
Replies: 6313
Views: 117076

Re: Covid-19

I guess this won't be a popular view but.....the journalists yesterday did not ask about an exit plan (ie dates) but an exit strategy ....which to my mind involves discussing the sort of measures we put in place at some as yet unspecified point in the future. The answer they got on each occasion ap...
by NottsClaret
Mon Apr 06, 2020 9:22 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Boris Johnson moved to intensive care
Replies: 161
Views: 7934

Re: Boris Johnson moved to intensive care

A bit shocking this. I hope he gets better.
by NottsClaret
Mon Apr 06, 2020 4:56 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Covid-19
Replies: 6313
Views: 117076

Re: Covid-19

paulatky wrote:
Mon Apr 06, 2020 4:53 pm
And then the number of cases will start to rise again
That'll have to be ok, as long as they stay below NHS capacity. Surely nobody believes we're eliminating Covid19? It'll be on and off measures and increased testing.

But full lockdown beyond a couple of months is impossible for many reasons.
by NottsClaret
Mon Apr 06, 2020 3:23 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Covid-19
Replies: 6313
Views: 117076

Re: Covid-19

Austria are set to loosen their lockdown and are set to let small shops reopen from 14th April followed by the rest on 1st May. Yes, and Bayern Munich back training again today, albeit maintaining their distance. Nobody wants to talk about it publicly yet in case it sets the wrong tone, but the tim...
by NottsClaret
Mon Apr 06, 2020 7:18 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: The Queen
Replies: 79
Views: 2390

Re: The Queen

Well written speech, will cheer up some people who like that kind of thing so all good. I’m strongly against the idea of a monarchy but always try to reserve my dislike for the system rather than the individuals. For that reason I’m ok with saying Elizabeth Saxe-Coburg (Windsor) speaks well for a no...
by NottsClaret
Sat Apr 04, 2020 3:54 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Covid-19
Replies: 6313
Views: 117076

Re: Covid-19

Infections going down so deaths will follow in a week or two. All very grim still but heading in the right direction even if it doesn’t feel like it yet.
by NottsClaret
Sat Apr 04, 2020 12:46 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Covid-19
Replies: 6313
Views: 117076

Re: Covid-19

I suspect the over 75's would prefer the lockdown to continue for 'several months' and the under 75's would go for 'a few more weeks then we'll take our chance'. Not an easy decision to make but the decision will have to be made nonetheless. Yes, it’s complex. The cost of lockdown shouldn’t be unde...
by NottsClaret
Sat Apr 04, 2020 11:18 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Covid-19
Replies: 6313
Views: 117076

Re: Covid-19

The point I am trying to make is how many deaths are acceptable to people. If people are arguing against lockdown , they are arguing to allow more deaths. Again I don’t believe the so called experts, they have been wrong about just everything recently. The experts are saying around 1% death rate, s...
by NottsClaret
Sat Apr 04, 2020 11:02 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Covid-19
Replies: 6313
Views: 117076

Re: Covid-19

Is that not the second time you have linked that report. I am not sure where your heading with this. Nope, it was a report in Iceland last time. Both too small sample sizes to be relied on but as far as I know, along with the cruise ship, they’re the only ones where everyone is tested regardless of...
by NottsClaret
Sat Apr 04, 2020 10:15 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Covid-19
Replies: 6313
Views: 117076

Re: Covid-19

Sorry to interrupt a politics thread with some Covid19 news.. but another report suggesting this virus is far more widespread than we imagine already. If this is true, lockdowns are going to be causing huge damage for little reward.

https://www.bmj.com/content/369/bmj.m1375
by NottsClaret
Fri Apr 03, 2020 2:46 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Fear of Social Gatherings - The Future
Replies: 68
Views: 2190

Re: Fear of Social Gatherings - The Future

The seed of Fear has been planted. How is this going to affect our National Game. We all know economically Covid-19 will bring the World Economy to its knees but will football fans want to sit together in close proximity in the future? Give it 6 months and no one will give it a second thought. We w...
by NottsClaret
Fri Apr 03, 2020 10:01 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Has this sports void made you really miss it?
Replies: 23
Views: 743

Re: Has this sports void made you really miss it?

I can live without the Premier League to be fair, it's more the social side of going to the Turf. I've missed my daughter's junior football way more and worry about my local non-league side.

If cricket isn't on when the weather warms up in May/June I'll be gutted.
by NottsClaret
Fri Apr 03, 2020 9:20 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Should the players take a wage cut?
Replies: 59
Views: 1766

Re: Should the players take a wage cut?

Why the obsession with footballers earnings? Is it just because they're on the telly? I read yesterday the top 350 footballers earn £2.8bn between them. Crazy.. But the top 350 bankers in the UK earn nearly £8bn. Are we talking about them? Or the hedge fund managers? Or the offshore account billiona...
by NottsClaret
Thu Apr 02, 2020 2:41 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Covid-19
Replies: 6313
Views: 117076

Re: Covid-19

There'll be a huge overlap in people who die from Covid19 over this next month and those who would have died at some stage this year. So the 500k figure won't be changed much at the end of 2020, even if the 500-1,000 numbers reported daily are shocking for the next couple of weeks. Let's remember th...
by NottsClaret
Thu Apr 02, 2020 1:16 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Covid-19
Replies: 6313
Views: 117076

Re: Covid-19

You'd imagine the number of deaths directly attributed to conventional flu and Pneumonia will be significantly down this year. Even with the pandemic peaking, I wouldn't be surprised if deaths in the first half of 2020 are down on previous years. Some people have no idea just how many people die ev...
by NottsClaret
Thu Apr 02, 2020 12:58 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Covid-19
Replies: 6313
Views: 117076

Re: Covid-19

Interesting bit here, on perspective and assessing risk around Covid19. Pretty unpalatable today, but attempting to save every life in the next month by any means will unquestionably cost lives over the next few years. Like it or not, we'll have to find a balance somehow. With the current frenzy and...
by NottsClaret
Thu Apr 02, 2020 11:46 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Covid-19
Replies: 6313
Views: 117076

Re: Covid-19

SKY NEWS Patients could have their ventilators and treatment withdrawn, if patients that are more likely to survive need them. This is new medical advice to doctors. So older people or those with more fragile health might not be treated. 🙁 Going to be awful decisions to make before the peak - suppo...
by NottsClaret
Thu Apr 02, 2020 10:25 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Covid-19
Replies: 6313
Views: 117076

Re: Covid-19

Paul Waine wrote:
Thu Apr 02, 2020 10:14 am
I think I'll pass on the "bear bile cure."

Is there an explanation what "approved" means in this context? Surely not "we think this may work..."???

I bet it's angered the bears, also. :(
Someone ate a bat-fed Pangolin to cause all this fuss, and the way out is glugging bear bile. Terrific.
by NottsClaret
Thu Apr 02, 2020 9:23 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Covid-19
Replies: 6313
Views: 117076

Re: Covid-19

Listening to R4 just now (7:40 a.m.) BBC: "China has controlled covid-19, we must learn how they have done that. We can speak to a Brit living in Wuhan." Brit in Wuhan: "We are still in lockdown after 2 and 1/2 months. If you have a certificate that states you don't have covid-19 then you are allow...
by NottsClaret
Thu Apr 02, 2020 7:09 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Covid-19
Replies: 6313
Views: 117076

Re: Covid-19

UK death toll is now higher than Italy’s at the same stage and accelerating faster. You’re right but let’s try not to panic. As grim as it is, it takes on average 23 days from being infected to death - if that’s the outcome. It’s only 13 days since we closed schools. People were still going to conc...
by NottsClaret
Wed Apr 01, 2020 6:54 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Covid-19
Replies: 6313
Views: 117076

Re: Covid-19

That’s where the debate is. As I have said we have not locked down to the extent of Italy. How that pans out is hard to predict but I suggest we will overshoot Italy’s figures both in amount and timeframe. A tighter lockdown is coming, that’s not going to be a debate. What more can we do? Italy is ...
by NottsClaret
Wed Apr 01, 2020 6:24 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Covid-19
Replies: 6313
Views: 117076

Re: Covid-19

It’s the general trend I am looking at. The general trend is still looking similar to Italy.. And I don’t like that. We are going to bust our ICU capacity at this rate. Yup, although if our infection rate is following Italy we'll also be on the mend in a couple of weeks. Going to be bad before then...
by NottsClaret
Wed Apr 01, 2020 4:33 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Covid-19
Replies: 6313
Views: 117076

Re: Covid-19

That’s the trajectory & it’s already been suggested stricter lockdowns will be necessary. The thing with that is we're now reacting to how the country was behaving 3 weeks ago, not the situation today. The people dying today, were getting ill as we were still going to the pub, Cheltenham was being ...
by NottsClaret
Wed Apr 01, 2020 4:19 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Covid-19
Replies: 6313
Views: 117076

Re: Covid-19

To be fair, whether someone dies WITH Covid19 or FROM Covid19 is a pretty big distinction, although I suspect it's almost certainly what has dealt the final blow in the majority of these cases even if their prognosis for the next 12 months wasn't great. For example, 50% of people carry some form of ...
by NottsClaret
Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:55 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: April 1st tomorrow
Replies: 14
Views: 1076

Re: April 1st tomorrow

The kids genuinely got me with a good one this morning. Still got to have a laugh.
by NottsClaret
Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:25 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Covid-19
Replies: 6313
Views: 117076

Re: Covid-19

When this is over some people on here, who've maybe not seen much of the world beyond East Lancashire and Southern Spain, should pop over to South Korea or Japan and see for themselves where the UK ranks when it comes to technology, social cohesion and infrastructure. It's not the South Koreans or J...
by NottsClaret
Tue Mar 31, 2020 2:59 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Prem to resume behind closed doors start of MAY 
Replies: 67
Views: 2614

Re: Prem to resume behind closed doors start of MAY 

Already a bit of unrest in Italy. You can't keep people locked up forever. Hopefully things improve by the end of next month and we can start to move towards normality as China are now.

I don't see the harm in planning for when that time comes, whether that's football or anything else.
by NottsClaret
Tue Mar 31, 2020 11:09 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Covid-19
Replies: 6313
Views: 117076

Re: Covid-19

I believe some of the response to this is because we have a large part of the population who really thought eventual demise didn't apply to them. It's certainly forced some people to face up to their own mortality. Hide in your home forever if you like, you're still going to die. I'm 100% behind th...
by NottsClaret
Tue Mar 31, 2020 10:38 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Covid-19
Replies: 6313
Views: 117076

Re: Covid-19

thatdberight wrote:
Tue Mar 31, 2020 10:26 am
"If 70 percent of an entire population gets sick, that means that between 0.35-0.7 percent of everyone in a country could die,"
Also, 0.7% of the entire population dies every year.
by NottsClaret
Tue Mar 31, 2020 10:04 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Clarets in the black
Replies: 116
Views: 5025

Re: Clarets in the black

We'll still find negatives. We're pretty much spending all we can without losing money, and still competing well at the highest level.

There's a reason that won't be good enough though, and I'm sure we'll find it here.
by NottsClaret
Tue Mar 31, 2020 9:09 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: unacceptable behaivor BOXING
Replies: 26
Views: 1116

Re: unacceptable behaivor BOXING

Corky wrote:
Tue Mar 31, 2020 8:40 am
Sadly, there are still far too many men in our society who put little value on women.
True that. There'll be plenty loudly outraged on here about the 'gypsy', who'll be objectifying and ridiculing women on other threads before the day's out.

He is a knob though.
by NottsClaret
Tue Mar 31, 2020 7:30 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Prem to resume behind closed doors start of MAY 
Replies: 67
Views: 2614

Re: Prem to resume behind closed doors start of MAY 

May is a long time at the moment. China have reopened their factories, production actually crept back up in March. It’s not impossible to imagine something like this being possible here by May, particularly if those antibody tests are available by then. I hope those dodgy streaming guys are up and r...
by NottsClaret
Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:35 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Iceland foods booking slots
Replies: 13
Views: 726

Re: Iceland foods booking slots

We've not ordered anything online for the last couple of weeks. It's easy for us to get to the shops and there's loads in again, all the shelves are rammed. So if people can do that they should, leave the online deliveries to people who need it. It's not like we've anything else to do at the minute ...
by NottsClaret
Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:30 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Covid-19
Replies: 6313
Views: 117076

Re: Covid-19

I read something today about how in Germany they're planning on the mass antibody testing, with a suggestion you'll get a certificate to show when you've had it, beaten it and are now immune and not infectious. Then you can go back to work, and get out and about as usual. Just wondering, if they had...
by NottsClaret
Mon Mar 30, 2020 10:53 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Covid-19
Replies: 6313
Views: 117076

Re: Covid-19

Have you a link for that mdd2, I cannot find it. Cheers Not sure about the specific interview, but there's quite a bit out there on the testing in Iceland. They've simply tested anyone, not just those with serious symptoms. Having a smaller population on a remote island allows it I guess. It says a...
by NottsClaret
Mon Mar 30, 2020 9:44 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Covid-19
Replies: 6313
Views: 117076

Re: Covid-19

Top boffin saying infection rate is slowing now in UK.

Globally, fatality rate of those who get it thought to be under 1%, could be well under that once asymptomatic patients are tested.

Definitely light at the end of the tunnel, if still a way off.
by NottsClaret
Sat Mar 28, 2020 9:10 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Covid-19
Replies: 6313
Views: 117076

Re: Covid-19

Good call Inchy. Thanks for your posts and work. Actually more informative just reading through your posts rather than the thread, gives a more human aspect to it away from all the stats and squabbles. Just for a glimmer of light, Wuhan reopened its subway today and hopefully its shopping malls next...
by NottsClaret
Fri Mar 27, 2020 5:37 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Hardware stores : open Burnley and Pendle ?
Replies: 49
Views: 1693

Re: Hardware stores : open Burnley and Pendle ?

There’s only so much of “doing nothing” you can do though With people being able to go out, socialise or exercise, doing a spot of DIY could make all the difference in their mental health. Fortunately just had time to order a skip last week, stock up on paint etc and get a load of stuff for the gar...
by NottsClaret
Fri Mar 27, 2020 10:49 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Non league football
Replies: 49
Views: 1211

Re: Non league football

paulatky wrote:
Fri Mar 27, 2020 10:31 am
The main issue to me is where the medical resources are going to come from if football is played with an audience.
How many are there now? Does every match have ambulances on standby? I've never seen them.
by NottsClaret
Fri Mar 27, 2020 10:22 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Non league football
Replies: 49
Views: 1211

Re: Non league football

There is no chance any football could start in September. Even if it did as soon as another player tests positive they'd have to completely shut down the league again due to the fear it might spread. If they cancel this season I suspect we won't be having any football next season either. Not sure a...
by NottsClaret
Fri Mar 27, 2020 9:11 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Non league football
Replies: 49
Views: 1211

Re: Non league football

There's no right answer, but looks to me like they're wanting to void all the leagues, just testing out reaction on the non-leagues. Aim to start again in September. There's a temptation to cancel everything this year but life will go on and although things look bleak now it won't last forever. A we...
by NottsClaret
Thu Mar 26, 2020 2:09 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Who is still working?
Replies: 70
Views: 2342

Re: Who is still working?

Worth saying that by working you aren't particularly taking more of a risk than anyone else. We're all going to get it at some point, believing you're going to avoid it altogether by staying off for 3 weeks is a fantasy. You're helping to 'flatten the curve' in this initial wave and that's to be rec...
by NottsClaret
Thu Mar 26, 2020 10:11 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Covid-19
Replies: 6313
Views: 117076

Re: Covid-19

Yeah, it was more about the focus on the death rate and how we react but we still only test those that end up in hospital - or the rich and famous. So they’ve had it a while and then deteriorated by that stage too. Without widespread testing every response is going to be so clunky, we’ll hopefully g...
by NottsClaret
Thu Mar 26, 2020 9:28 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Covid-19
Replies: 6313
Views: 117076

Re: Covid-19

Really noticeable how governments - and us - react to death rate figures from each day with more demands and action, even though they're showing you the results of what we were doing three or four weeks ago. Hard not to panic as the figures shoot up, but it'll be a while before we see any benefit, a...
by NottsClaret
Thu Mar 26, 2020 8:08 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Let's not forget homeless people in all this
Replies: 39
Views: 878

Re: Let's not forget homeless people in all this

Spare a thought for the nation’s drug dealers. Going to be feeling it more than anyone. Hopefully Rishi Sunak announces something for them today.
by NottsClaret
Wed Mar 25, 2020 6:35 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Covid-19
Replies: 6313
Views: 117076

Re: Covid-19

As for the spread of this virus. The UK is not taking it seriously enough. It should be stay at home unless your job is critical to beating this virus. The idea that everyone who can’t work at home should go to work is ludicrous. You may be able to stay 2 meters apart at work but it is getting to w...
by NottsClaret
Wed Mar 25, 2020 5:16 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Covid-19
Replies: 6313
Views: 117076

Re: Covid-19

Coronavirus test: UK to make 15-minute at-home kits available within days. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/coronavirus-test-uk-kit-home-nhs-cases-symptoms-public-health-england-a9424741.html Really good news, at least for moving back towards normality - compared to where we are now....
by NottsClaret
Wed Mar 25, 2020 12:37 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Covid-19
Replies: 6313
Views: 117076

Re: Covid-19

Yes. This is why medical staff are, sadly, at greater risk. I think this has been known since early on in this piece when Chinese medics were worse affected than would be explained just by transmission. I certainly heard it mentioned "way back" then. :( It's an interesting aspect to it, one I don't...
by NottsClaret
Tue Mar 24, 2020 6:23 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Covid-19
Replies: 6313
Views: 117076

Re: Covid-19

Let’s see your calculations for that number??? Because the only time we've genuinely known exactly how many people in a population were infected was on that cruise ship. Of those infected, and it was a sample of several hundred, 1% went on to sadly die. Every other stat is taken from people tested ...