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by thatdberight
Mon Jul 15, 2019 10:21 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Speeding Conviction Where Photo Inconclusive
Replies: 62
Views: 2024

Re: Speeding Conviction Where Photo Inconclusive

Had to go on one last week. There had been a speed change on a road I used to drive daily (40 down to 20) so I was six over instead of 4 under as I thought... it is amazing how much you forget when you have been driving so long. While I wouldn’t volunteer I actually found it very useful. Some of it...
by thatdberight
Sat Jun 15, 2019 11:03 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Jo Brand
Replies: 209
Views: 4880

Re: Jo Brand

Imploding Turtle wrote:You are not the person who decides what does or doesn't work as a joke.


Yes I am.
by thatdberight
Sat Jun 15, 2019 10:45 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Jo Brand
Replies: 209
Views: 4880

Re: Jo Brand

You said this: "But at least it is a joke - which distinguishes it from Brand's comment." Do you see why when someone reads this and sees that you are distinguishing a joke from what Brand said that someone could think you consider Brand's comment not to be a joke? You literally said that...
by thatdberight
Sat Jun 15, 2019 10:10 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Jo Brand
Replies: 209
Views: 4880

Re: Jo Brand

So if you know she wasn't serious then you know that her comment was non-serious. So what's another word for a non-serious comment? I'll give youa hint, the one i'm thinking of is 4 letters and begins with a J. Jerk. I already said, "Brand's joke only works..." Not whether it's funny or n...
by thatdberight
Sat Jun 15, 2019 9:44 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Jo Brand
Replies: 209
Views: 4880

Re: Jo Brand

So you think that Jo Brand is seriously calling for people to throw battery acid at politicians? Seriously? That's your argument? No. But then, if you could read my comment, oh, all of two comments ago, you'd know that. When you foam at the mouth, maybe it gets hard to see through the spittle. I do...
by thatdberight
Sat Jun 15, 2019 6:24 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Jo Brand
Replies: 209
Views: 4880

Re: Jo Brand

Rileybobs wrote:The comments were clearly not incitement to violence though, in the same way that my comments about Nick Knowles aren't. And that's why the matter has been dropped by the police.


On that at least, we agree. Her comments were clearly not a police matter as things stand.
by thatdberight
Sat Jun 15, 2019 5:43 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Jo Brand
Replies: 209
Views: 4880

Re: Jo Brand

A joke doesn’t need structure. According to the dictionary (I can’t believe I even need to consult the dictionary for a definition), a joke is ‘a thing that someone says to cause amusement or laughter’. If I said that someone should chin Nick Knowles, I would be doing this to cause amusement. I wou...
by thatdberight
Sat Jun 15, 2019 5:22 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Jo Brand
Replies: 209
Views: 4880

Re: Jo Brand

David Baddiel defended Brand by quoting one of her stock gags - the way to a mans hart is through the breast with a bread knife. While this is edgy, it could not be construed as an excitement... had she left it at “some politicians” there would be no great outcry... just Jo Brand looking to regain ...
by thatdberight
Sat Jun 15, 2019 5:17 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Jo Brand
Replies: 209
Views: 4880

Re: Jo Brand

If I said that the contestants of Love Island should be shot would that not be seen as a joke? How about if i said that someone should chin Nick Knowles? You don’t have to find the idea of those things happening to anybody funny for it to be a joke. No. They're not jokes. They may fit one criterion...
by thatdberight
Sat Jun 15, 2019 5:04 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Jo Brand
Replies: 209
Views: 4880

Re: Jo Brand

Well firstly Brand didn’t wish death upon anyone as far as I can tell. If you said you hoped I died a slow painful death but didn’t mean it then of course it would be a joke. I’m pretty confident that Brand doesn’t actually want anyone to throw acid on anyone else - so on that basis what she said w...
by thatdberight
Sat Jun 15, 2019 4:56 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Jo Brand
Replies: 209
Views: 4880

Re: Jo Brand

The joke being that Farage is so despicable that he would be more deserving of battery acid being thrown at him than milkshake. Not sure how or why that needs explaining. It was very poorly, if at all considered and also not very funny. Obviously a joke nonetheless though. OK. You have a different ...
by thatdberight
Sat Jun 15, 2019 4:31 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Jo Brand
Replies: 209
Views: 4880

Re: Jo Brand

Caballo wrote:I never said it was funny! It was still a joke non the less.


I'll give you a chance as well then. What is the "joke"? I know it will lose its humour in the explanation but please describe the joke.
by thatdberight
Sat Jun 15, 2019 4:30 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Jo Brand
Replies: 209
Views: 4880

Re: Jo Brand

Oh boy. I love that all he Farage jokes are coming out (ha!) now that he's opposed to people making offensive jokes. Here's one about drowning gay people. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3HB77S_mAo&feature=youtu.be Of course, no one's saying drowning gay people is funny, and Farage isn't advoc...
by thatdberight
Thu Jun 13, 2019 10:59 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: War with Iran
Replies: 130
Views: 6277

Re: War with Iran

https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1139236999464927233 The US are blaming Iran for attacks on 2 tankers in the Gulf of Oman today (they solved that case pretty ******* fast). I'm quite sure they'd blame Iran no matter who actually did it, and it makes no sense for Iran to do it since they know Amer...
by thatdberight
Thu Jun 13, 2019 10:17 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Jo Brand
Replies: 209
Views: 4880

Re: Jo Brand

But since you bring it up, i decided to go through the two quotes, your "almost verbatim" version and the real quote, and look for words that appear in both of them, and it doesn't look very good for your "almost verbatim" version I found "it", "to", "un...
by thatdberight
Thu Jun 13, 2019 9:14 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Jo Brand
Replies: 209
Views: 4880

Re: Jo Brand

There are literally no two connecting words in your "almost verbatim" presentation of what she said that is actually in what she said. If I was literally going to try to pull someone up for that, I'd literally make sure I knew what "literally" meant, maybe with a dictionary link...
by thatdberight
Thu Jun 13, 2019 8:54 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Jo Brand
Replies: 209
Views: 4880

Re: Jo Brand

You said it was "almost verbatim". There are literally no two connecting words in your "almost verbatim" presentation of what she said that is actually in what she said. You embellished her quote to make it appear more outrageous, probably because the original quote wasn't outra...
by thatdberight
Thu Jun 13, 2019 8:34 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Jo Brand
Replies: 209
Views: 4880

Re: Jo Brand

Almost verbatim, you say... Replying to a question about the state of UK politics, she said: Almost Verbatim Quibbling about nothing (I clearly said it wasn't verbatim) rather than disagreeing with the substance. If I'd missed some substantial part of the "joke", I know you'd have pointed...
by thatdberight
Thu Jun 13, 2019 8:19 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Jo Brand
Replies: 209
Views: 4880

Re: Jo Brand

The problem for those supporting the joke is that there is no joke. She, almost verbatim, says, "Farage is unpleasant. People are throwing milkshakes at him. It would be better to throw dangerous substances." I'm sure it's possible to craft a joke about him that's a well-crafted bon mot, e...
by thatdberight
Thu Jun 13, 2019 8:05 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Angry Britain: Beyond repair?
Replies: 6
Views: 694

Re: Angry Britain: Beyond repair?

Imploding Turtle wrote:I want to still be around to enjoy being right.


Of course, the great thing is, even if you're not, you'll still be convinced that you are.
by thatdberight
Thu Jun 13, 2019 6:15 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Another murderer released
Replies: 176
Views: 3343

Re: Another murderer released

He did think the 10 commandments outdated, actually. He reduced them to 2. 1. Love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind, and with all your strength. 2. Love your neighbour as yourself. I think you omitted part of that teaching, "On these two com...
by thatdberight
Thu Jun 13, 2019 2:51 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: YES! Farage Milkshaked
Replies: 579
Views: 14422

Re: YES! Farage Milkshaked

Claret-On-A-T-Rex wrote:People who are homophobic, racist, islamophobic and xenophobic. i.e. Boris Johnson.


Is he homophobic (even by accusation)?

Is there anyone who might normally be considered "on the right" who isn't "far right" in your view? I was looking for an example.
by thatdberight
Thu Jun 13, 2019 2:28 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: YES! Farage Milkshaked
Replies: 579
Views: 14422

Re: YES! Farage Milkshaked

Context is important. Brand was making a joke as a comedian. Count Dankula was making a joke as the producer of a comedy vehicle. Carl Benjamin was making a statement as a political commentator, he's not a comedian. This is what i don't get about you former free speech warriors. We all thought it w...
by thatdberight
Thu Jun 13, 2019 2:27 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: YES! Farage Milkshaked
Replies: 579
Views: 14422

Re: YES! Farage Milkshaked

I’ll defend Jo Brand too. I think her comment was ill-judged but, in the context of a radio programme that is clearly set up to get laughs out of controversial subjects, it shouldn’t be interpreted as inciting violence. It’s sometimes difficult to know when you may be crossing the line in comedy. I...
by thatdberight
Thu Jun 13, 2019 2:11 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: YES! Farage Milkshaked
Replies: 579
Views: 14422

Re: YES! Farage Milkshaked

I thought we lived in an era when our elected representatives were subject to unpleasant threats and we had examples of real harm being done to them so it was only right that we all, in whatever context, should be careful not to inflame situations or give succour to the small fringes of violent acti...
by thatdberight
Thu Jun 13, 2019 1:54 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: YES! Farage Milkshaked
Replies: 579
Views: 14422

Re: YES! Farage Milkshaked

Claret-On-A-T-Rex wrote:Duh.

Honestly is that the best you can do?


Seriously, where does it stop? Boris Johnson is not usually referred to as "far right" but you see him thus. Where is your dividing line?
by thatdberight
Thu Jun 13, 2019 1:48 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: YES! Farage Milkshaked
Replies: 579
Views: 14422

Re: YES! Farage Milkshaked

I'll defend her. She SAID something, she didn't DO something, also she didn't LIE and print it on the side of a bus and drive up and down the country in it. In my opinion there is nothing can be said that is offensive to proponents of the far-right such as Farage, Tommy Yaxley Robertinson, Boris Jo...
by thatdberight
Thu Jun 13, 2019 10:16 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: YES! Farage Milkshaked
Replies: 579
Views: 14422

Re: YES! Farage Milkshaked

"It's just a joke, like on Top Gear" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7CnMQ4L9Pc I love how politically correct the anti-political correctness brigade get when they think they can be reasonably offended by something. You see, people like me think that you shouldn't go around calling black...
by thatdberight
Wed Jun 12, 2019 8:49 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Is VAR the future?
Replies: 96
Views: 2687

Re: Is VAR the future?

Yes. It's definitely working well. No doubt... Nigerian player deliberately slaps the ball in. But that's OK.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/av/football/48612313
by thatdberight
Wed Jun 12, 2019 8:41 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Public Service Announcement
Replies: 15
Views: 893

Re: Public Service Announcement

This thread is indeed about me. Thank you for contributing to my thread about me. I look forward to your next contribution to this thread about me. Don't be unnecessarily, and not very credibly, modest. They're always all about you. But you would save lots of time to get on with the rest of your li...
by thatdberight
Wed Jun 12, 2019 8:26 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Public Service Announcement
Replies: 15
Views: 893

Re: Public Service Announcement

Attention workers! The party would like to remind you that if you post your opinions in a thread then you run the risk of being accused of virtue-signalling, or trying to turn the thread into being all about you. Please be alert and aware at all times. And call your parents once in a while. This ha...
by thatdberight
Wed Jun 12, 2019 2:54 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: YES! Farage Milkshaked
Replies: 579
Views: 14422

Re: YES! Farage Milkshaked

aggi wrote:..The donation system that the Brexit party set up...


You mean PayPal? Which Tories and Labour also accept.
by thatdberight
Tue Jun 11, 2019 7:40 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Space
Replies: 12
Views: 869

Re: Space

1999?
by thatdberight
Sat Jun 08, 2019 8:30 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Youtube
Replies: 36
Views: 1643

Re: Youtube

by thatdberight
Fri Jun 07, 2019 8:34 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Is VAR the future?
Replies: 96
Views: 2687

Re: Is VAR the future?

Works equally varcically in the ladies' game too... That'll help promoulgate the game to a new audience...
by thatdberight
Thu Jun 06, 2019 10:56 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Is VAR the future?
Replies: 96
Views: 2687

Re: Is VAR the future?

Players will soon stop celebrating goals. You just end up looking like a dick. Then fans will. Until the camera says it's OK. By which time, meh...

Somehow, somewhere, the accountants took over.
by thatdberight
Thu Jun 06, 2019 9:34 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Is VAR the future?
Replies: 96
Views: 2687

Re: Is VAR the future?

It's not helping this England match.
by thatdberight
Wed Jun 05, 2019 11:49 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Tiananmen Square Massacre
Replies: 20
Views: 1098

Re: Tiananmen Square Massacre

There really is no kind of monument or memorial to those who where slaughtered there. Shocking. Putting aside the "did it actually happen there?" question - because a substantial atrocity certainly happened nearby at least - there wouldn't be a memorial because the same group who carried ...
by thatdberight
Tue Jun 04, 2019 5:42 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Tiananmen Square Massacre
Replies: 20
Views: 1098

Re: Tiananmen Square Massacre

From our ambassador in China, to the government here. Ta. Found the original - it's been through an OCR obviously which explains the errors. US cables say there was no massacre in Tiananmen Square, as does James Miles who reported for the BBC from Beijing on the days in question. That absolutely co...
by thatdberight
Tue Jun 04, 2019 5:04 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Tiananmen Square Massacre
Replies: 20
Views: 1098

Re: Tiananmen Square Massacre

Who's this document supposed to be from and to?
by thatdberight
Tue Jun 04, 2019 5:02 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Short change UK
Replies: 4
Views: 504

Re: Short change UK

As you said, "Ha ha".
by thatdberight
Tue Jun 04, 2019 1:24 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: camping
Replies: 27
Views: 1454

Re: camping

A lot of campsites have tents already up for you and different levels of comfort. I would certainly go 'Glamping' before you buy all the gear. England is full of people who buy 1000s of pounds worth of camping gear and then either want to upgrade to a Caravan/Motorhome or don't like it. Losing lots...
by thatdberight
Mon Jun 03, 2019 6:45 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Another Offshore/Onshore Tax Scrounging Employer at it?
Replies: 22
Views: 1018

Re: Another Offshore/Onshore Tax Scrounging Employer at it?

I don't know why you people seem to think that that's a valid criticism of what I said. Whoever "you people" are. I do like the new, whinier IT with added victim complex. It's an even funnier spin on your concocted outrage at everything. But you're right. I feel shame that I didn't come u...
by thatdberight
Mon Jun 03, 2019 6:25 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Another Offshore/Onshore Tax Scrounging Employer at it?
Replies: 22
Views: 1018

Re: Another Offshore/Onshore Tax Scrounging Employer at it?

aggi wrote:Easy to say...


That's enough for anyone who likes proposing easy solutions.
by thatdberight
Mon Jun 03, 2019 4:16 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Another Offshore/Onshore Tax Scrounging Employer at it?
Replies: 22
Views: 1018

Re: Another Offshore/Onshore Tax Scrounging Employer at it?

We would have to see how this panned out over multiple years. On the face of it, clearly disguised remuneration. Clearly should fall foul of the GAAR (introduced by the coalition government). But, if the loan was a loan and is repaid and interest is paid and tax is paid on the distributions - there'...
by thatdberight
Sun Jun 02, 2019 9:32 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: University Compo Claim
Replies: 23
Views: 1204

Re: University Compo Claim

Paul Waine wrote:Student is described - on BBC - as international student, possibly that's how she described herself.


What are you querying? Do you think she lied about being an international student?
by thatdberight
Sun Jun 02, 2019 5:33 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: University Compo Claim
Replies: 23
Views: 1204

Re: University Compo Claim

If this is the only way to blow open the scam that is the HE sector, so be it.
by thatdberight
Sun Jun 02, 2019 5:03 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Boris Johnson to appear in Crown Court for lying
Replies: 355
Views: 5668

Re: Boris Johnson to appear in Crown Court for lying

I've not watched the clip but if he's relying on that explanation to absolve him he'll be a bit scuppered. Firstly we absolutely don't give them £350m. Secondly they don't control/define how we use the rebate No. You're right. I truncated in trying to explain and left out an important piece. £350m ...
by thatdberight
Sun Jun 02, 2019 5:01 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Boris Johnson to appear in Crown Court for lying
Replies: 355
Views: 5668

Re: Boris Johnson to appear in Crown Court for lying

Added to my previous reply, as has been pointed out numerous times, and is verifiable in Treasury accounts, we don't give them 350 million and NEVER have done. We only transfer the net amount to the EU. It's exactly the same as claiming that you have £35,000 disposable annual income when in fact th...
by thatdberight
Sun Jun 02, 2019 2:20 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Boris Johnson to appear in Crown Court for lying
Replies: 355
Views: 5668

Re: Boris Johnson to appear in Crown Court for lying

Can't really see how this link would be relevant in court since it was an interview given before the referendum, but more importantly, BEFORE he became Foreign Sec , and even more importantly BEFORE he was explicitly told not to REPEAT it because it was wrong and misleading. The purported offence r...

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