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by boatshed bill
Wed Jun 19, 2019 10:25 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: VAR
Replies: 53
Views: 1255

Re: VAR

aggi wrote:One of the commentators made a good point, this is how keepers have been training to save penalties for years. Expecting them to suddenly change is a bit tough.

Yes, but they have been learning the best way to cheat.
by boatshed bill
Wed Jun 19, 2019 10:18 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: VAR
Replies: 53
Views: 1255

Re: VAR

martin_p wrote:That’s fine when they are cheating, but when you move a millisecond early then I don’t think that can be considered intentional.


They are allowed to move, just keep one foot on the line. Seems fair enough to me.
by boatshed bill
Wed Jun 19, 2019 10:12 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: VAR
Replies: 53
Views: 1255

Re: VAR

martin_p wrote:Another appalling use of VAR. A keeper being a couple of inches off their line, only visible by using a freeze frame, a clear and obvious error?

If it stops most of the cheating I'm all for it. Goalkeepers have been cheating on penalties for years.
by boatshed bill
Wed Jun 19, 2019 10:01 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Heaton turns down new deal
Replies: 63
Views: 3784

Re: Heaton turns down new deal

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:So you're basically agreeing that we'd need to sign another number 2, you just took the long way round..


You could put it that way. ;)

But I wasn't dismissing the possibility that Hart may be kept on. Could happen.
by boatshed bill
Wed Jun 19, 2019 7:45 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Heaton turns down new deal
Replies: 63
Views: 3784

Re: Heaton turns down new deal

bennitor wrote:Surprised me when I looked that Etheridge is 29 - so his time to improve is actually pretty limited (albeit entering peak goalkeeping age admittedly).


I didn't realise he was that old. Still he would be good as second choice.
by boatshed bill
Wed Jun 19, 2019 7:02 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Heaton turns down new deal
Replies: 63
Views: 3784

Re: Heaton turns down new deal

If he doesn't want to sign a new deal and Pope is fully fit then sell Heaton and get the next understudy in. Hart can go as well. Getting rid of Heaton and Hart would leave us very thin with only Legzdins as back up. If the pair were to leave I'd like to see us try to sign Etheridge from Cardiff, i...
by boatshed bill
Tue Jun 18, 2019 10:40 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: A Strike Duo for the Ages - Ashley Barnes and Chris Wood
Replies: 6
Views: 1004

Re: A Strike Duo for the Ages - Ashley Barnes and Chris Wood

evensteadiereddie wrote:The top twelve BFC Prem goalscorers quiz is a good one.
I missed two, sad to say.


Same here, Nugent and Hendrick!
by boatshed bill
Tue Jun 18, 2019 7:10 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: London again
Replies: 119
Views: 2726

Re: London again

Violent crime in London is nothing new, is it?
The Krays did some naughty stuff, and Jack The Ripper was handy with his knife. ;)
by boatshed bill
Tue Jun 18, 2019 7:03 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Another murderer released
Replies: 176
Views: 2814

Re: Another murderer released

Well you can compare murder rates in places that do and don't have the death penalty. This is particularly easy in the US where some states do have the death penalty and others don't but it's all the same country. https://files.deathpenaltyinfo.org/legacy/images/murderratesdpvsnodp-2016.png Interes...
by boatshed bill
Tue Jun 18, 2019 5:57 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Another murderer released
Replies: 176
Views: 2814

Re: Another murderer released

willsclarets wrote:Clearly proven it's not a deterrent.


I've been thinking about this, how is it proven that the death penalty doesn't act as a deterrent? We will never know how many would-be killers were deterred by the possibilty of being hanged
by boatshed bill
Mon Jun 17, 2019 10:09 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Two central defenders to choose from last ten years
Replies: 50
Views: 1756

Re: ARTICLE: Two central defenders to choose from last ten years

I went for Keane and Tarkowski, simply because I really believe they've been the best defenders I've seen since our halcyon days
by boatshed bill
Sat Jun 15, 2019 6:57 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: What standard of men's football would beat a top international women's team ?
Replies: 39
Views: 2150

Re: What standard of men's football would beat a top international women's team ?

I heard somewhere recently that the Williams sisters in their prime were about at the level of the 280th ranked man. So on that basis I declare that the ladies would be about at the 280th placed football team in the football pyramid. Something like Mangotsfield United maybe. Case closed You're welc...
by boatshed bill
Sat Jun 15, 2019 6:01 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: BFC TRANSFER NEWS (MUST CONTAIN LINK)
Replies: 234
Views: 31763

Re: BFC TRANSFER NEWS (MUST CONTAIN LINK)

mkmel wrote:Does he have pace to burn?


Can he track back?
by boatshed bill
Sat Jun 15, 2019 5:58 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Wolves in for Tarkowski
Replies: 235
Views: 15220

Re: Wolves in for Tarkowski

Jakubs Tash wrote:I understand what you are saying about body shape but I'm pretty confident that Ben Gibson is more than capable of using his right foot and making a pass to a full back without looking like Steve Blatherwick.


So is my sister, so what? :D
by boatshed bill
Sat Jun 15, 2019 11:04 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Wolves in for Tarkowski
Replies: 235
Views: 15220

Re: Wolves in for Tarkowski

Or maybe the 'inkling' was that Duff didn't have too much left in the tank and we needed another centre half, not only for the future but also for the run in that season.... Yes, there was also that situation. Either way we were going to need a quality centre back, and I believe we will need anothe...
by boatshed bill
Sat Jun 15, 2019 10:08 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Wolves in for Tarkowski
Replies: 235
Views: 15220

Re: Wolves in for Tarkowski

Jakubs Tash wrote:That's complete tosh. So Keane wanted away in January 2016? It was only towards the second half of the 16/17 season we realised Keane was going to leave.


I'm sure we had an inkling.
by boatshed bill
Fri Jun 14, 2019 11:42 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Wolves in for Tarkowski
Replies: 235
Views: 15220

Re: Wolves in for Tarkowski

dsr wrote:Though as has already been pointed out, right footed players have little trouble playing on the left so we wouldn't need a left sided centre half. It's having no right footers that is the recipe for failure.


I would totally agree with this, so Gibson and Mee in central defence?
by boatshed bill
Fri Jun 14, 2019 11:08 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Lady Gaga
Replies: 75
Views: 3772

Re: Lady Gaga

tim_noone wrote:You weren't wrong so many to Like...the neighbours away volume up "Gods n Monsters" while The Board Sleeps :D


Just had a listen to that song, Tim, totally amazing.
by boatshed bill
Fri Jun 14, 2019 11:00 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Wolves in for Tarkowski
Replies: 235
Views: 15220

Re: Wolves in for Tarkowski

Especially when you condsider that by the same argument, Tarkowski couldn't displace Mee or Keane so clearly he couldn't be an adequate replacement either. . I don't believe Tarkowski was bought for any other reason than that we knew Keane wanted away, similarly Gibson was bought because Mee was st...
by boatshed bill
Fri Jun 14, 2019 10:06 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Wolves in for Tarkowski
Replies: 235
Views: 15220

Re: Wolves in for Tarkowski

I think if tarks does end up leaving and gibson doesnt get a chance he wont be far behind him I'm sure Gibson was signed for two reasons: one was to balance left and right footed central defenders in the squad, the second was that Ben Mee had been stalling over a new contract. Mee signed and Gibson...
by boatshed bill
Fri Jun 14, 2019 9:37 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Wolves in for Tarkowski
Replies: 235
Views: 15220

Re: Wolves in for Tarkowski

Jakubs Tash wrote:Yes, I think we will find out. Because when Tarkowski is sold, Gibson is likely to be the man who will replace him (whether having two left footed centre halves in the same team makes you feel wobbly or not). Mepham and Ake do ok....


Not special.
by boatshed bill
Fri Jun 14, 2019 9:08 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Wolves in for Tarkowski
Replies: 235
Views: 15220

Re: Wolves in for Tarkowski

Maybe because he isn't playing! As for not being as good: https://metro.co.uk/2017/05/18/middlesbrough-determined-to-keep-hold-of-chelsea-liverpool-and-arsenal-target-ben-gibson-despite-relegation-6646977/ He's not played this season (very much) because he can't displace Ben Mee, so how he's sudden...
by boatshed bill
Fri Jun 14, 2019 8:49 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Wolves in for Tarkowski
Replies: 235
Views: 15220

Re: Wolves in for Tarkowski

It's the same reason there are a lot more right footed left backs than left footed right backs. Right footed centre halves get experience on the left because there aren't enough left footers to always fill the berth; clearly the same doesn't apply in reverse. Gibson might prove to be the exception ...
by boatshed bill
Fri Jun 14, 2019 6:14 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Wolves in for Tarkowski
Replies: 235
Views: 15220

Re: Wolves in for Tarkowski

Spijed wrote:Keane left and we didn't have a problem.


That's because we had already signed Tarks as a ready made replacement.
by boatshed bill
Thu Jun 13, 2019 9:20 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Wolves in for Tarkowski
Replies: 235
Views: 15220

Re: Wolves in for Tarkowski

Was interesting in the 2017/18 accounts that we would have just about broken even without the Keane & Gray sales. Last season, only Vokes sold and some £20 million less from the Premier League money. So wrong to think we don’t need the money and Garlick highlighted that in his report that we wo...
by boatshed bill
Thu Jun 13, 2019 8:57 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Wolves in for Tarkowski
Replies: 235
Views: 15220

Re: Wolves in for Tarkowski

I cant believe that, unless Tarks has expressed a desire to go. We dont need the money, no matter how much they offer us. The only reason to lose him is if he would be upset by staying. Totally agree with this. And we depended a great deal on the defensive qualities of Tarkowski and Mee, this is th...
by boatshed bill
Thu Jun 13, 2019 6:42 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Jo Brand
Replies: 209
Views: 4105

Re: Jo Brand

Of course we wouldn't. If there were 5 people listening to an offensive joke, and then the Daily Wail screamed about it to millions, and then 500 people all start throwing battery acid around while not a single one of the original 5 listeners were involved, then who's to blame? I blame society, mys...
by boatshed bill
Thu Jun 13, 2019 6:32 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Chernobyl
Replies: 70
Views: 4503

Re: Chernobyl

It's received glowing reviews.
by boatshed bill
Thu Jun 13, 2019 6:27 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Southampton sign
Replies: 26
Views: 2556

Re: Southampton sign

Funkydrummer wrote:Pearl's a winger !!


and Earl's a swinger :D
by boatshed bill
Thu Jun 13, 2019 6:25 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Jo Brand
Replies: 209
Views: 4105

Re: Jo Brand

I doubt we'd be having our typical little tiffs about this had Farage kept his mouth shut.
by boatshed bill
Wed Jun 12, 2019 10:27 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Is women’s football winning you over?
Replies: 185
Views: 4762

Re: Is women’s football winning you over?

Just a thought, but is there any way the authorities could make it an offence to appeal for a penalty? Actually,booking players for appealing for anything would be good for the game.
by boatshed bill
Wed Jun 12, 2019 10:02 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Is women’s football winning you over?
Replies: 185
Views: 4762

Re: Is women’s football winning you over?

Too true tim. Tonight's game was ruined by VAR convincing a very experienced referee, who referees in teh Bundesliga in Germany, that she should give a penalty for a player kicking the ball but catching the opponent in the follow through, in spite of the fact that the opponent had jumped in two-foo...
by boatshed bill
Wed Jun 12, 2019 9:56 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Campbell as Labour leader?
Replies: 26
Views: 1886

Re: Campbell as Labour leader?

Wouldn't Campbell be more suited to leading the Lib Dems ? :D
by boatshed bill
Wed Jun 12, 2019 9:54 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Another murderer released
Replies: 176
Views: 2814

Re: Another murderer released

Forget revenge. But some people are not worth keeping alive.
by boatshed bill
Tue Jun 11, 2019 10:09 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Another murderer released
Replies: 176
Views: 2814

Re: Another murderer released

Rileybobs wrote:How can any society justify hanging someone to death?


Could just give the c""t a lethal injection instead.
by boatshed bill
Mon Jun 10, 2019 8:27 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Will Maguire push up Tarkowski's value?
Replies: 50
Views: 2516

Re: Will Maguire push up Tarkowski's value?

I rate Gibson, was delighted with the signing, he appears smaller than 6ft 1. It's weird I wouldn't even consider the strong foot argument with two right footers, it's just something about two left footers I don't think would work. Difficult for a "wrong-footed" defender to show a player ...
by boatshed bill
Mon Jun 10, 2019 7:52 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Will Maguire push up Tarkowski's value?
Replies: 50
Views: 2516

Re: Will Maguire push up Tarkowski's value?

FactualFrank wrote:We already have our replacement, in Gibson. We don't need a replacement for Tarks, we need a replacement for Gibson.


Either way, Frank, if we have £40million to spend, that money would likely only buy a player nearly as good as Tarkowski, not an improvement on him.
by boatshed bill
Mon Jun 10, 2019 7:29 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Will Maguire push up Tarkowski's value?
Replies: 50
Views: 2516

Re: Will Maguire push up Tarkowski's value?

i don't know how much we could get for Tarkowski, but whatever we could get would hardly buy his replacement.
by boatshed bill
Mon Jun 10, 2019 7:09 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Is women’s football winning you over?
Replies: 185
Views: 4762

Re: Is women’s football winning you over?

I quite enjoyed England vs Scotland. i don't compare it to anything, just watch the game for what it is.
by boatshed bill
Mon Jun 10, 2019 7:02 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Will Maguire push up Tarkowski's value?
Replies: 50
Views: 2516

Re: Will Maguire push up Tarkowski's value?

randomclaret2 wrote:Im asking for trouble here but anyway....Mee and Gison are both left footed.


I'm convinced we only signed Gibson because Mee had been stalling on a deal.
by boatshed bill
Mon Jun 10, 2019 7:00 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Time to choose a right-back from the last ten years
Replies: 25
Views: 1047

Re: ARTICLE: Time to choose a right-back from the last ten years

My favourite left back would be Ben Mee, he will not be on the list.
by boatshed bill
Mon Jun 10, 2019 6:30 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Time to choose a right-back from the last ten years
Replies: 25
Views: 1047

Re: ARTICLE: Time to choose a right-back from the last ten years

jrgbfc wrote:Think we can all make an educated guess who will be chosen as left back as well!


Brian Easton of course!
by boatshed bill
Mon Jun 10, 2019 6:11 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Will Maguire push up Tarkowski's value?
Replies: 50
Views: 2516

Re: Will Maguire push up Tarkowski's value?

The value of any player nowadays is dictated not by ability, but by who wants to buy him. Bonkers, innit?
by boatshed bill
Sat Jun 08, 2019 8:26 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: All time classic LP's
Replies: 119
Views: 2959

Re: All time classic LP's

Miles Davis "Kind Of Blue" " " Bitches Brew" Led Zeppelin "LZ 1" Jimi Hendrix "Electric Ladyland" Jethro Tull "Stand Up" Joni Mitchell "Blue" King Crimson "Cirkus" Santana "Abraxus" The Pogues "Rum, Sodomy and ...
by boatshed bill
Fri Jun 07, 2019 6:32 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Free transfer list
Replies: 39
Views: 3521

Re: Free transfer list

4 goalkeepers on our list
by boatshed bill
Thu Jun 06, 2019 10:43 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: England
Replies: 155
Views: 3491

Re: England

Not much a manager can do about unforced errors once the players are on the pitch. Could have second thoughts about the underperforming players for the next competition though.
by boatshed bill
Thu Jun 06, 2019 6:33 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: England
Replies: 155
Views: 3491

Re: England

Much better than the so called meaningless friendlies.
by boatshed bill
Wed Jun 05, 2019 7:54 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Alistair Campbell expelled from the Labour Party
Replies: 113
Views: 4247

Re: Alistair Campbell expelled from the Labour Party

What's the point of wanting to stay a member of a party if you're going to vote against it? :?
by boatshed bill
Mon Jun 03, 2019 10:43 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Whisky
Replies: 51
Views: 1607

Re: Whisky

I think it's horrible
by boatshed bill
Mon Jun 03, 2019 10:11 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Vydra speaks again
Replies: 50
Views: 4680

Re: Vydra speaks again

theroyaldyche wrote:You havent a clue mate.

With a proper run in the team he can certainly be better than both wood and barnes


Seriously?
While the manager plays two big fellas up front and tells our players to get the ball into the box ASAP how is Vydra going to get a game?

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