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- Thu Apr 18, 2024 5:15 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: So do you drop Muric after two massive costly howlers?
- Replies: 363
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Re: So do you drop Muric after two massive costly howlers?
The Muric howler is no more or no less of a howler whatever the outcome of the game. The fact that we lost two points, just affects the anger levels on here. Although this thread is about Muric, our player, in this instance I think that comparisons with other keepers is more than relevant. All keep...
- Tue Apr 16, 2024 10:46 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: So do you drop Muric after two massive costly howlers?
- Replies: 363
- Views: 10684
Re: So do you drop Muric after two massive costly howlers?
Wasn’t Saturday his chance at redemption for the first error?ashtonlongsider wrote: ↑Sun Apr 14, 2024 8:04 pmI'd keep Muric in for the remaining matches. For me he should have started in August on merit and irregardless of the two howlers he deserves the chance to redeem himself.
- Sun Apr 14, 2024 5:09 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: So do you drop Muric after two massive costly howlers?
- Replies: 363
- Views: 10684
Re: So do you drop Muric after two massive costly howlers?
Being meaningless doesn’t mean it isn’t entertaining
- Sat Apr 13, 2024 11:26 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: So do you drop Muric after two massive costly howlers?
- Replies: 363
- Views: 10684
Re: So do you drop Muric after two massive costly howlers?
Apologies I mixed up two games while having a meaningless debate on the internet with a complete stranger who sleeps below a poster of Arjo Muric123EasyasBFC wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2024 11:24 pmIt’s obvious you don’t watch games properly the fact you think we played with 10 men against West Ham
- Sat Apr 13, 2024 11:24 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: So do you drop Muric after two massive costly howlers?
- Replies: 363
- Views: 10684
Re: So do you drop Muric after two massive costly howlers?
Hold on a minute we’re has there been a comment that the sole reason for a result is the keeper, like having a discussion with a child. You out did your own logic earlier in regards to positive results and when you realised you had nothing to come back with No, I accepted you would continue to see ...
- Sat Apr 13, 2024 11:13 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: So do you drop Muric after two massive costly howlers?
- Replies: 363
- Views: 10684
Re: So do you drop Muric after two massive costly howlers?
Well if the keeper is the sole reason for any result as 123 seems to believe then the bar is set at 5-0 by Trafford. Let’s see Muric will us to 6 or 7.evensteadiereddie wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2024 10:23 pmThe team has been stronger with Muric in it.
We'll need him next week against the pub side.
- Sat Apr 13, 2024 9:50 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: So do you drop Muric after two massive costly howlers?
- Replies: 363
- Views: 10684
Re: So do you drop Muric after two massive costly howlers?
I’m devastated after today, as a big Muric fan. Really feel for him. I really believe ordinary people (us) cannot make this decision. It is too hard. Muric has star dust. Like few keepers I have ever seen. But he has brain fades. I suspect he took his eye off the ball to look at the players. A Sund...
- Sat Apr 13, 2024 9:24 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: So do you drop Muric after two massive costly howlers?
- Replies: 363
- Views: 10684
Re: So do you drop Muric after two massive costly howlers?
More than once tonight I have explained the error today is a shocker but you cannot pick and chose when a draw is a positive or not, it’s 1 point rather than 0 points. So you don’t count forest away, Brighton away, Luton at home, West Ham away as positive results all games in which we scored first ...
- Sat Apr 13, 2024 9:18 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: So do you drop Muric after two massive costly howlers?
- Replies: 363
- Views: 10684
Re: So do you drop Muric after two massive costly howlers?
Positives like gifting a goal each to two sides who never looked like scoring?123EasyasBFC wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2024 9:16 pmNobody is ignoring the negatives, the error today is bad but the people who seem to want Trafford back in the side are failing to look at all the positives muric has brought to the last 5 games
- Sat Apr 13, 2024 9:17 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: So do you drop Muric after two massive costly howlers?
- Replies: 363
- Views: 10684
Re: So do you drop Muric after two massive costly howlers?
Worst thing to ever happen to Trafford that penalty save in the final Yeah, absolutely awful for him to win a tournament and keep six clean sheets. Also awful that City wanted a buy back clause for him, when they didn’t for Muric. Painful that almost everyone outside our fan base rates him higher t...
- Sat Apr 13, 2024 9:15 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: So do you drop Muric after two massive costly howlers?
- Replies: 363
- Views: 10684
Re: So do you drop Muric after two massive costly howlers?
We draw the game we didn’t lose, you can’t pick and chose when a draw is a positive result or not, it’s still a positive result. Otherwise you can’t class any draw from being in the lead a positive. Even if you want to go off 3 positive results out of 5 that’s still a hell of a lot better than 8 ou...
- Sat Apr 13, 2024 9:11 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: So do you drop Muric after two massive costly howlers?
- Replies: 363
- Views: 10684
Re: So do you drop Muric after two massive costly howlers?
And while becoming the first keeper to not concede a single goal in winning that tournament and having to save a penalty in the final to achieve that.Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2024 9:08 pmNo idea where Trafford ends up but so far he’s won a pretty prestigious tournament and is only a young lad.
- Sat Apr 13, 2024 9:08 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: So do you drop Muric after two massive costly howlers?
- Replies: 363
- Views: 10684
Re: So do you drop Muric after two massive costly howlers?
4 positive results in 5 league games 1 win 3 draws 1 defeat, if you are going to argue at least get the figures right. Again another person not looking at the all round game that is instantly better with muric in the game. We lost 20 games in 28 games with Trafford in the side it’s simple don’t kno...
- Sat Apr 13, 2024 9:02 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: So do you drop Muric after two massive costly howlers?
- Replies: 363
- Views: 10684
Re: So do you drop Muric after two massive costly howlers?
But the fact we only had 8 positive results in 20 games with Trafford in goal and we have had 4 positive results in 5 games with muric in goal doesn’t say logically you would keep muric in goal We’ve had 3 positive results from 5 with Muric and lost 3 points solely because of him. I can’t accept a ...
- Sat Apr 13, 2024 8:28 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: So do you drop Muric after two massive costly howlers?
- Replies: 363
- Views: 10684
Re: So do you drop Muric after two massive costly howlers?
Based on Trafford had 28 games to show if he was up to the premier league so based on that muric should be given the same amount of games. Muric should have started the season and had the errors piled up and his passing stats dropped and the overall play dropped then Trafford comes in, you won’t ev...
- Sat Apr 13, 2024 8:26 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: So do you drop Muric after two massive costly howlers?
- Replies: 363
- Views: 10684
- Mon Mar 04, 2024 5:42 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: TRAFFORD (AGAIN)
- Replies: 721
- Views: 28528
Re: TRAFFORD (AGAIN)
The Goalkeeper, their style/strengths and how it compliments the team's supposed style is MASSIVE. Popey suited Dyche's Burnley style perfectly - he would have been utterly **** for us last season in a team wanting to play through the lines and recycle posession. It's utterly bonkers how people can...
- Mon Mar 04, 2024 5:41 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: TRAFFORD (AGAIN)
- Replies: 721
- Views: 28528
Re: TRAFFORD (AGAIN)
Muric makes the team tick. He dictates tempo, sees penetrative passing lines, plays the ball fast, makes fast decisions, plays long and short and plays accurately This was very much needed today. It would have helped a lot No one was moving to allow him to have done that. You’re all so fixated on w...
- Sun Mar 03, 2024 9:36 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: TRAFFORD (AGAIN)
- Replies: 721
- Views: 28528
Re: TRAFFORD (AGAIN)
Vitinho did give it away, but if Trafford would stay in his box, he wouldn't have been stranded, also how many times does he keep the ball at his feet for minutes, then pass it to either of our defenders, who then give it him back, and he then kicks it long, why doesn't he just start an attack stra...
- Sun Mar 03, 2024 9:34 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: TRAFFORD (AGAIN)
- Replies: 721
- Views: 28528
Re: TRAFFORD (AGAIN)
Not solely responsible but I think a major part of. It's that ethos of just chucking new youngsters in wholesale and expecting it to work - he's done it again recently with Esteve. Goalkeeper is an integral part of our team and style though and he makes us noticeably worse - if we played a differen...
- Tue Feb 06, 2024 2:12 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Cullen and Muric back in for Saturday?
- Replies: 67
- Views: 4362
Re: Cullen and Muric back in for Saturday?
Cullen definitely in a midfield 3. Muric just not going to happen. A lot worse goals conceded by better teams than us this weekend. Trafford is fine. The team more than ever picks itself for me, lets hope VK thinks the same Trafford Assignon O Shea Beyer Esteve Brownhill Berge Cullen Odobert Fofana...
- Tue Jan 30, 2024 9:38 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Superbowl
- Replies: 77
- Views: 3540
Re: Superbowl
I haven't been in, watched a few games and as expected it's at least a 50/50 split between 'Raiders' fans and those flying in for the weekends from the opposition. Looked like there was plenty of branding tbh Will be the same as the Golden Knights, price is inflated by it being Vegas and away teams...
- Tue Jan 30, 2024 9:25 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: New ground
- Replies: 171
- Views: 9235
Re: New ground
Back row of that bottom tier will be the driest place in the ground with triple rain protection and no chance of the wind driving rain into past the tier above!claptrappers_union wrote: ↑Tue Jan 30, 2024 9:08 amWe'd have to build a steep cricket field stand like this
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- Tue Jan 30, 2024 9:24 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: New ground
- Replies: 171
- Views: 9235
Re: New ground
You couldn't get or wouldn't want 2000 away fans in the fanzone, I'm sure you could reserve parking for directors in the existing car parks, the players come to the ground by coach. The player's cars are in that car park on a matchday, how they get to the ground isn't relevant. The other car parks ...
- Mon Jan 29, 2024 9:16 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: New ground
- Replies: 171
- Views: 9235
Re: New ground
Build a fanzone for away fans on that little car park on the other side of the away turnstiles, and cut off the cricket clubs cash flow, then negotiate a deal and let them take over that when a deal is in place. And then where do the players park? We've built a fanzone, it doesn't seem to stop BCC ...
- Mon Jan 29, 2024 7:58 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: New ground
- Replies: 171
- Views: 9235
Re: New ground
I might be simplifying it here but surely a Chief Executive with a bit of teeth would easily solve that stalemate. 'either come to an agreement with us, let us pay you well for you to hand it over, or we're going to have no alternative but to look for a new site on the outskirts of town rather than...
- Mon Jan 29, 2024 5:50 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: New ground
- Replies: 171
- Views: 9235
- Mon Jan 29, 2024 5:34 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: New ground
- Replies: 171
- Views: 9235
Re: New ground
Regarding my last post re Fulham’s away stand, I’ve been looking for figures on the cost of the redevelopment of Craven Cottage back in 2004 (yes, I’m that sad), and there’s various figures banded around between £8-£15M. The Bank of England inflation calculator puts £8M in 2004 to £12M in 2023. Obv...
- Mon Jan 29, 2024 4:25 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Superbowl
- Replies: 77
- Views: 3540
- Sat Jan 06, 2024 2:35 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: No sign of Culvert work being completed
- Replies: 158
- Views: 18395
Re: No sign of Culvert work being completed
The point I’m making is that it doesn’t cost a lot of money to make it look nicer. It doesn’t but that’s also exactly why councils should have the power to force owners of landmark buildings to do something. Like you said, take down the window stickers of the “university” that gave the town very li...
- Sat Jan 06, 2024 2:00 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Arijanet Muric
- Replies: 284
- Views: 35483
Re: Arijanet Muric
Muric for me. Trafford has improved a lot lately, and kept us in games, but it's Murics influence in attack that gets him the nod, and his command of the box. The only way we score more goals with Muric in the side is if we put him upfront as I suspect he can finish better than some of our attackin...
- Sat Jan 06, 2024 1:48 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Tottenham v Burnley - Player Ratings
- Replies: 121
- Views: 11347
- Sat Jan 06, 2024 1:42 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: No sign of Culvert work being completed
- Replies: 158
- Views: 18395
Re: No sign of Culvert work being completed
Unless it’s the council that’ll be half the problem. People can own large properties like this and let them rot to the detriment of the town with little action being taken against them.
- Sat Jan 06, 2024 1:41 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Wrong place wrong time
- Replies: 52
- Views: 5833
Re: Wrong place wrong time
Without any details you can’t make that point though unfortunately.Ptangyangkipperbang wrote: ↑Sat Jan 06, 2024 1:38 pmHonestly I was just trying to make a point of how much of a farce and inept the legal system is.I really wish I could get all the facts down it would go on for pages
Hopefully the next 12 months are more positive for you
- Sat Jan 06, 2024 1:39 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Arijanet Muric
- Replies: 284
- Views: 35483
Re: Arijanet Muric
Anything slightly positive about our performances and it’s always turned to well the other team played rubbish, they rested players, what team outside of the top 6 players a team in the top 6 and doesn’t rely on them potentially having an off day. Dyche used to say it regularly, to beat the big boy...
- Sat Jan 06, 2024 1:27 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: No sign of Culvert work being completed
- Replies: 158
- Views: 18395
Re: No sign of Culvert work being completed
It doesn't take much more work. If they painted or clad the white parts of the Kierby to match the building across the road, it’d look less of an eye sore. They should also pull away all the old UCFB window adverts and tint them all black. In the grand scheme of things it doesn't cost a great deal ...
- Sat Jan 06, 2024 1:07 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Arijanet Muric
- Replies: 284
- Views: 35483
Re: Arijanet Muric
Why? Foster wasn’t great in the championship but has arguably been our most important player this season, muric could have also made the step and and improved further given the chance, he also could of done a Cullen who right now doesn’t look up to the level (although he had a good game last night)...
- Sat Jan 06, 2024 1:05 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: No sign of Culvert work being completed
- Replies: 158
- Views: 18395
Re: No sign of Culvert work being completed
I was gutted when they were felled. Fair enough, tart up the pavement under the culvert and Harry Potts Way, but as for the rest - like you say, it exacerbates the eyesore and makes that entrance to the town centre look even more of an unwelcoming dump than it did before. Even the tarting up isn’t ...
- Sat Jan 06, 2024 1:01 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Arijanet Muric
- Replies: 284
- Views: 35483
Re: Arijanet Muric
I think comparing mistakes people made a lower level is a bit different to saying the positives at that level should have carried over to harder competition.123EasyasBFC wrote: ↑Sat Jan 06, 2024 1:00 pmPeople need to stop comparing what we did in the championship, you just tried to compare things muric did last season?
- Sat Jan 06, 2024 12:54 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Arijanet Muric
- Replies: 284
- Views: 35483
Re: Arijanet Muric
Here's the real question Would we be on more than 11 points IF the combined fees that went on Traff, Trésor and Ramsey(who are good players in their own right) around the 50 mill mark were instead allocated to you know what (most) thought were the obvious needs in fullback(s), DM, Striker... It's a...
- Sat Jan 06, 2024 12:53 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Arijanet Muric
- Replies: 284
- Views: 35483
Re: Arijanet Muric
A lot of the saves Trafford makes are a result of being constantly under pressure which I think is the outcome of how the defence and team play while he is in nets .. we won the championship with Muric and strolled that division so he must have had some consistency .: and before anyone chips in tha...
- Sat Jan 06, 2024 12:52 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Arijanet Muric
- Replies: 284
- Views: 35483
Re: Arijanet Muric
Decent strawman. What was our side then? Kulusevski, Richarlison, Porro, Udogie, Vicario all been first team regulars and are good players in there own right - not to mention it was away. Could have easily won that and Spurs want silverware, they're going for a Cup. 5? Short of being our normal XI?...
- Sat Jan 06, 2024 12:48 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: No sign of Culvert work being completed
- Replies: 158
- Views: 18395
Re: No sign of Culvert work being completed
I still think it’s criminal they got rid of the old roundabout. The trees kept the Kierby out of your eyesight a bit and now you can’t avoid looking at the eyesore.
- Sat Jan 06, 2024 12:41 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Arijanet Muric
- Replies: 284
- Views: 35483
Re: Arijanet Muric
Because we didn't let them? Look at the team shape last night vs the prior 10 games in a 4-4-2. Last night we absolutely spread the pitch and had Spurs chasing shadows for parts - so far removed from some of the turgid stuff we've seen this season. I honestly don't know what some watch. Rewatch the...
- Sat Jan 06, 2024 12:35 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Arijanet Muric
- Replies: 284
- Views: 35483
Re: Arijanet Muric
Literally went away to spurs with a 2 man midfield of Cullen and Ramsey and had by far the better chances to win the game. Quite staggering that you can make that claim in all honesty. Spurs barely even got out neutral. You’re kidding yourself if you think that is representative of a league game. T...
- Sat Jan 06, 2024 12:28 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Arijanet Muric
- Replies: 284
- Views: 35483
Re: Arijanet Muric
You failed to acknowledge at how does muric playing a pass to a midfielder makes him erratic? But Trafford doing the same doesn’t make him erratic I can’t remember seeing Trafford do it. Feel free to show me video that he did. Whereas I saw Muric do it last night and can remember him doing it 2/3 w...
- Sat Jan 06, 2024 12:19 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Arijanet Muric
- Replies: 284
- Views: 35483
Re: Arijanet Muric
I’d probably be focussing on what Zeki or whoever scored did tbh. It’s quite obvious what high percentage play means and if you’re going to have a debate about whether Muric made a good decision I’d expect you’d know what it means as well as it’s the basis of whether decision making is good or bad....
- Sat Jan 06, 2024 12:18 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Arijanet Muric
- Replies: 284
- Views: 35483
Re: Arijanet Muric
You judge confidence as a keeper in our system as their ability on the ball, the speed in which they make decisions and there ability to command their area. Someone stood waiting for a penalty surely isn’t the basis of your argument. How does a pass to a lightweight midfielder make muric erratic? S...
- Sat Jan 06, 2024 12:15 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Arijanet Muric
- Replies: 284
- Views: 35483
Re: Arijanet Muric
High percentage play whatever that means. He lost the ball crap and weak forward play again. I’m sure if he’d beat his man or passed and we’d scored you’d be posting what a superb throw it was from Muric. I’d probably be focussing on what Zeki or whoever scored did tbh. It’s quite obvious what high...
- Sat Jan 06, 2024 12:09 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Arijanet Muric
- Replies: 284
- Views: 35483
Re: Arijanet Muric
How is how Trafford looked before villas pen a good marker to whether he’s confident or not, if your basing it on how a keeper looks there is no comparison to how calm muric always looks How else are you judging confidence? As for why is Muric erratic? Well, wasn’t great to see his trademark pass t...