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- Mon Apr 15, 2024 8:40 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Fitness
- Replies: 71
- Views: 3166
Re: Fitness
Why was it wrong? I think it was wrong because the players who ‘benefitted’ from the extra fitness and team building efforts, which I presume was the point, have barely featured and lots have left. VK must have known by then of his plans to turn the squad over as much as he did. The team hasn’t loo...
- Mon Apr 15, 2024 8:32 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Fitness
- Replies: 71
- Views: 3166
Re: Fitness
No. I think Milltown’s original point appears to be that VK brought them back too early. Otherwise I don’t see the relevance to a fitness thread. To be honest I don’t remember much critism of it at the time. Easy in hindsight to add it to the growing list of things VK has done wrong. Well my mistak...
- Mon Apr 15, 2024 8:26 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Obafemi
- Replies: 42
- Views: 4127
Re: Obafemi
Just passing the time of day, Bill. Corrie isn’t much good at the moment.
- Mon Apr 15, 2024 8:26 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Fitness
- Replies: 71
- Views: 3166
Re: Fitness
No impact, which I think is the point.agreenwood wrote: ↑Mon Apr 15, 2024 8:22 pmIf they aren’t here or aren’t playing, what impact has it had on this team’s fitness?
- Mon Apr 15, 2024 8:10 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Obafemi
- Replies: 42
- Views: 4127
Re: Obafemi
Take a chill pill, Bill, as the kids might (no longer) say.boatshed bill wrote: ↑Mon Apr 15, 2024 8:03 pmSo did we sign him with fitness issues or not?
Did we sign him for a reported £12million or not?
- Mon Apr 15, 2024 8:01 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Obafemi
- Replies: 42
- Views: 4127
Re: Obafemi
He only had fitness issues because he barely featured for Swansea after being denied a move to us in the summer.boatshed bill wrote: ↑Mon Apr 15, 2024 7:59 pmWe were never going to pay that.
We loaned him, I believe, knowing he had fitness issues. Sounds like he's just about got himself fully match-fit now with Millwall.
- Mon Apr 15, 2024 7:51 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Obafemi
- Replies: 42
- Views: 4127
Re: Obafemi
Crikey. I didn't realise it was that much. I had £9m in my head but it was a while ago so could be wrong.nil_desperandum wrote: ↑Mon Apr 15, 2024 7:36 pmFully agree. They were wanting about 12 million as I recall.
I dread to think how much money we'd have lost on him had we paid around those figures.
- Mon Apr 15, 2024 7:47 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Obafemi
- Replies: 42
- Views: 4127
Re: Obafemi
Oh heck, Bill.
- Mon Apr 15, 2024 7:32 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Obafemi
- Replies: 42
- Views: 4127
Re: Obafemi
I'm just glad we didn't sign him in August 2022 when I dread to think how much more money would have been chucked down the pan.
- Mon Apr 15, 2024 7:20 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Fitness
- Replies: 71
- Views: 3166
Re: Fitness
Especially not given most of the players he called back have either been shipped out somewhere else now or have hardly featured.CoolClaret wrote: ↑Mon Apr 15, 2024 7:15 pmI'm not one to pretend to be 'ITK' but I've heard that went down like a lead balloon. Hardly worked either has it?
What a braindead decision.
- Mon Apr 15, 2024 7:12 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Fitness
- Replies: 71
- Views: 3166
Re: Fitness
Remember at the end of last season when VK had them back in for pre season about 2 weeks after the season finished and it was seen as revolutionary. This is what you get. Even at the time, I saw lots of people calling that out for exactly what it was. A publicity stunt to court attention from the m...
- Sun Apr 14, 2024 5:27 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Been with your Mrs for 30 years and don’t love her.
- Replies: 53
- Views: 3015
Re: Been with your Mrs for 30 years and don’t love her.
It’s been an absolutely wretched season where it seems to me that the fans just feel exasperated by the decisions that have been made and are just a bit apathetic to it all. The fans know that we are so brittle and we’re turning up to every game expecting to lose. Those early hidings at home did for...
- Sun Apr 14, 2024 4:52 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: We need to talk about Foster
- Replies: 85
- Views: 3961
Re: We need to talk about Foster
There is clearly a fantastic player in Lyle Foster. At the beginning of the season he looked just about our only player capable of playing at PL level. I think he was also the player with the highest average rating the last time CT calculated it. I do think next season is make or break for him now t...
- Sun Apr 14, 2024 1:42 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Striker, Left Back, Defensive Midfielder
- Replies: 53
- Views: 2177
Re: Striker, Left Back, Defensive Midfielder
given JJ's comments on stick to football about not being able to play the football we played in the Championship in the Premier League I suspect there has been a re-think - I've no idea what that will look like but I suspect we will be signing units rather than lightweights I really hope you’re cor...
- Sun Apr 14, 2024 11:07 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Fitness
- Replies: 71
- Views: 3166
Re: Fitness
That Fofana jog reminds me of the kids in PE class who really couldn't be arsed to join in.
Can anyone imagine Sean Dyche putting up with some of the antics we've seen from our players this season?
Can anyone imagine Sean Dyche putting up with some of the antics we've seen from our players this season?
- Sun Apr 14, 2024 11:01 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Striker, Left Back, Defensive Midfielder
- Replies: 53
- Views: 2177
Re: Striker, Left Back, Defensive Midfielder
I dread to think of which expensive flops the MUD analytics software will come up with this time.
Hopefully we’ll sign players with the qualities we need as opposed to signing players who might, potentially, one day, if the wind is in the right direction, make us a profit.
Hopefully we’ll sign players with the qualities we need as opposed to signing players who might, potentially, one day, if the wind is in the right direction, make us a profit.
- Sat Apr 13, 2024 10:11 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: So do you drop Muric after two massive costly howlers?
- Replies: 363
- Views: 8604
Re: So do you drop Muric after two massive costly howlers?
LOL at you geeks still doing the Muric vs Trafford thing as if you’re all not completely and utterly entrenched in your views already.
Never let a good error go to waste.
Never let a good error go to waste.
- Sat Apr 13, 2024 9:05 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Burnley v Brighton - Player Ratings
- Replies: 91
- Views: 4339
Re: Burnley v Brighton - Player Ratings
Muric 3 - no words Assignon 6 Ekdal 8 Esteve 8 Vitinho 6 Berge 6 Cullen 7 Odobert 6 Fofana 4 - seriously shocking Foster 3 - seriously, seriously shocking Larsen 5 Taylor 5 Brownhill 6 Rodriguez 5 This was actually a good performance in which our man-for-man system worked really well in making Brigh...
- Sat Apr 13, 2024 8:57 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: So do you drop Muric after two massive costly howlers?
- Replies: 363
- Views: 8604
- Fri Apr 12, 2024 12:29 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ARTICLE: Estève was our best in Everton defeat
- Replies: 16
- Views: 877
Re: ARTICLE: Estève was our best in Everton defeat
Potential they are talking about. He has all the attributes to be a top defender. Getting better every game. Him and Beyer be an unreal championship partnership Yeah fair enough, I can see him doing well in the Championship. I’m with CT at the moment though in that I don’t yet see someone with the ...
- Fri Apr 12, 2024 9:17 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ARTICLE: Estève was our best in Everton defeat
- Replies: 16
- Views: 877
Re: ARTICLE: Estève was our best in Everton defeat
I'm shocked that anyone would be comparing Esteve to Keane or Tarkowski at this stage. He has had some decent games and some poor games so far.
As yet, he's a long way off comparisons to two of our top three centre halves in recent years, in my opinion.
As yet, he's a long way off comparisons to two of our top three centre halves in recent years, in my opinion.
- Wed Apr 10, 2024 8:12 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Dyche to be sacked?
- Replies: 41
- Views: 3556
Re: Dyche to be sacked?
I thought I was good at spotting multiple accounts, but this one has got me. Who is Nori on this thread? Nothing reads like them, IMO. ISpeds00 Nori/Grumps/Longsidelenny etc etc have always approached trolling from different angles. It’s a full time job for them to manage so many different personal...
- Wed Apr 10, 2024 7:38 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ARTICLE: It’s Muric for a third game in Wolves draw
- Replies: 3
- Views: 233
- Wed Apr 10, 2024 7:12 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Dyche to be sacked?
- Replies: 41
- Views: 3556
Re: Dyche to be sacked?
Good to see Nori all over this thread.
And when I say good to see…
And when I say good to see…
- Wed Apr 10, 2024 5:22 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Dyche to be sacked?
- Replies: 41
- Views: 3556
Re: Dyche to be sacked?
He’s got Vincent Kompany to thank for the fact he’s still got a job today. Aren’t we his only two wins in the last 15?
- Wed Apr 10, 2024 2:29 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Brilliant New Burnley Podcast
- Replies: 794
- Views: 67667
Re: Brilliant New Burnley Podcast
Very interesting episode. Very concerning if we don't get back up next season.
- Wed Apr 10, 2024 11:56 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Loan player situations upon relegation (or survival!)
- Replies: 15
- Views: 1006
Re: Loan player situations upon relegation (or survival!)
My understanding from what I’ve read is as follows: Esteve and Larsen are to sign permanently because their loans included the obligation to buy. Tresor has already signed permanently, but there does now appear to some doubt about this, although it seems to stem from the fact he’s been dropped from ...
- Tue Apr 09, 2024 10:03 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Real v City
- Replies: 36
- Views: 1789
Re: Real v City
Can only echo the other comments regarding the standard of officiating tonight. I'd actually forgotten that referees can make consistently good decisions, keep up with play, and maintain control of both sides without it spilling over. Mike Riley and now Howard Webb really have destroyed the refereei...
- Tue Apr 09, 2024 5:46 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Teams for Brighton
- Replies: 34
- Views: 2083
Re: Teams for Brighton
Muric Vitinho — Ekdal — Esteve — Taylor JBG — Cullen — Berge — Larsen Odobert — Foster Brighton carry a big threat down their left with their LB Estupinan who sees a lot of the ball and combines well with one of their wingers. For that reason I’d play JBG in front of Vitinho to help defend that flan...
- Tue Apr 09, 2024 1:33 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: So who's renewed their ST?
- Replies: 231
- Views: 9934
- Tue Apr 09, 2024 1:22 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: So who's renewed their ST?
- Replies: 231
- Views: 9934
- Mon Apr 08, 2024 9:46 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Relegation
- Replies: 76
- Views: 4789
Re: Relegation
I certainly agree with you there, potentially.
- Sun Apr 07, 2024 6:42 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Interesting that potential contract clause mentioned again.
- Replies: 61
- Views: 3422
Re: Interesting that potential contract clause mentioned again.
You cant see the difference? I was expressing an opinion on our performance along with the view that people have overreacted to it because of the result. You were just being ignorant, presumably because you didn't like somebody disagreeing with you. Anyway, this is another thread ruined by somebody...
- Sun Apr 07, 2024 6:34 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Interesting that potential contract clause mentioned again.
- Replies: 61
- Views: 3422
- Sun Apr 07, 2024 6:05 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Interesting that potential contract clause mentioned again.
- Replies: 61
- Views: 3422
- Sun Apr 07, 2024 6:02 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Interesting that potential contract clause mentioned again.
- Replies: 61
- Views: 3422
Re: Interesting that potential contract clause mentioned again.
Stop being a bed wetter.
- Sun Apr 07, 2024 5:53 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: If VK is made director of football who is our manager?
- Replies: 43
- Views: 2097
Re: If VK is made director of football who is our manager?
I can't see him wanting to be in that sort of setup either - which to me is his self-belief / arrogance. Reading between the lines that's why he left Anderlecht as well and why he joined us in the first place (that level of control/influence). Now, I could be wrong but I have a feeling that he may ...
- Sun Apr 07, 2024 5:00 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: REPORT: Clarets suffer a damaging defeat at Everton
- Replies: 29
- Views: 2096
Re: REPORT: Clarets suffer a damaging defeat at Everton
I questioned myself on what I’d seen when I saw this quote from our manager on the way home. “I don't think you need to overanalyse [the mistakes]," Kompany told BBC Match of the Day when asked about Muric's error and O'Shea's red card. "The main thing for us is that I think we played really well a...
- Sun Apr 07, 2024 4:31 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: REPORT: Clarets suffer a damaging defeat at Everton
- Replies: 29
- Views: 2096
Re: REPORT: Clarets suffer a damaging defeat at Everton
Just how many reports have had to be written this season detailing yet another half-arsed and incompetent showing.
Whatever style of football this manager is trying to implement, it’s as plain as day that we’re not capable of it.
Whatever style of football this manager is trying to implement, it’s as plain as day that we’re not capable of it.
- Sun Apr 07, 2024 2:42 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: The cost of playing out badly
- Replies: 55
- Views: 2902
Re: The cost of playing out badly
Nonsense (my last post to this). Some stats are obscure, others are direct relevance to goals. The one you objected to today wasn’t an obscure stat like xG, it was simply goals conceded from open play. My point was simple - that half a dozen sides have conceded similar. That’s not an opinion, it is...
- Sun Apr 07, 2024 2:27 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: The cost of playing out badly
- Replies: 55
- Views: 2902
Re: The cost of playing out badly
Indeed. And it is shocking. The poster who I replied to though was being insulting (due to not having a proper argument) in reply to a stat about open play defending, hence why I demonstrating we are no worse than several other teams in this regard. I can see why stats are annoying - they can destr...
- Sun Apr 07, 2024 11:49 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: The cost of playing out badly
- Replies: 55
- Views: 2902
Re: The cost of playing out badly
Stats can show when someone is right and someone else is wrong. Like with you in this case. We have conceded 42 from non set pieces. Chelsea have conceded 38. Brentford 46. West Ham 40. Yes, we are poor at it, but there are worse sides. It isn’t the reason why we are going down. Attack is. And, I w...
- Sun Apr 07, 2024 10:47 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: O'Shea ball control
- Replies: 48
- Views: 3272
Re: O'Shea ball control
Sorry ,but I christened him 'O SH%TE months back!!! He's far from shite. He's actually got 2 goals and 4 assists already this season which is the record in terms of goal contributions for a PL centre half. He's also our best defender and isn't someone you can accuse of being half-arsed like a few o...
- Sun Apr 07, 2024 10:01 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: The cost of playing out badly
- Replies: 55
- Views: 2902
Re: The cost of playing out badly
We have conceded 42 from open play, City have 23. So if the figure was indeed 20 we would be better than City other than this at defending, so it obviously isn’t. I suspect the figure is more like 6-7. And I bet other teams are similar. It isn’t our issue, attack is. But the “overplaying” has been ...
- Sun Apr 07, 2024 9:58 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: If VK is made director of football who is our manager?
- Replies: 43
- Views: 2097
Re: If VK is made director of football who is our manager?
I can honestly say I’ve never once seen it written that Kompany might take up a Director of Football position.
Have you got a link?
Have you got a link?
- Sat Apr 06, 2024 11:51 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: O'Shea ball control
- Replies: 48
- Views: 3272
Re: O'Shea ball control
He has improved, and credit for that, but the difference between who we tried to sign across the team and who we actually signed is a huge gulf. O’Shea epitomises that (it was only a yellow card for me today but he also got turned earlier by DCL badly). I’d say only Berge, Amdouni and Tresor fit th...
- Sat Apr 06, 2024 11:35 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: I’m so sick of Kompany
- Replies: 349
- Views: 15754
Re: I’m so sick of Kompany
Just watching the highlights back now on MOTD and we are just an absolute car crash of a team. The players just cannot play like the manager asks, whatever that actually is. Every game is littered with tens and tens of errors. The manager's judgement is appalling.
- Sat Apr 06, 2024 9:07 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: I’m so sick of Kompany
- Replies: 349
- Views: 15754
Re: I’m so sick of Kompany
interesting Cullen - captain at Anderlecht O'Shea - captain at WBA Berge - captained Norway There may be more I think it's probably a little more complex than just plucking captains from others teams. The sloppiness, poor mentality, and poor discipline we've seen all season tells it's own story.
- Sat Apr 06, 2024 8:59 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: I’m so sick of Kompany
- Replies: 349
- Views: 15754
Re: I’m so sick of Kompany
When a manager has been there 8 years there’s going to be an element of his finger prints still being around the club, but having barnes in the squad wasn’t implementing dyches ethos and imprint on Beyer, Cullen, tella and benson to name a few, that was all on kompany and the staff with the style I...
- Sat Apr 06, 2024 8:46 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: I’m so sick of Kompany
- Replies: 349
- Views: 15754
Re: I’m so sick of Kompany
Newcastleclaret is a plonker more often than not, everyone knows that, but he has a point here. Kompany inherited some Dyche warriors and their impact on the 22/23 season shouldn't be underestimated. Kompany added the icing and sprinkles, but underlying the team was a core strength. In the 24/25 sea...