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by ksrclaret
Mon Apr 15, 2024 8:40 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Fitness
Replies: 71
Views: 2767

Re: Fitness

Why was it wrong? I think it was wrong because the players who ‘benefitted’ from the extra fitness and team building efforts, which I presume was the point, have barely featured and lots have left. VK must have known by then of his plans to turn the squad over as much as he did. The team hasn’t loo...
by ksrclaret
Mon Apr 15, 2024 8:32 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Fitness
Replies: 71
Views: 2767

Re: Fitness

No. I think Milltown’s original point appears to be that VK brought them back too early. Otherwise I don’t see the relevance to a fitness thread. To be honest I don’t remember much critism of it at the time. Easy in hindsight to add it to the growing list of things VK has done wrong. Well my mistak...
by ksrclaret
Mon Apr 15, 2024 8:26 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Obafemi
Replies: 38
Views: 2845

Re: Obafemi

boatshed bill wrote:
Mon Apr 15, 2024 8:14 pm
I don't understand the fuss about non-events.
Just passing the time of day, Bill. Corrie isn’t much good at the moment. :D
by ksrclaret
Mon Apr 15, 2024 8:26 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Fitness
Replies: 71
Views: 2767

Re: Fitness

agreenwood wrote:
Mon Apr 15, 2024 8:22 pm
If they aren’t here or aren’t playing, what impact has it had on this team’s fitness?
No impact, which I think is the point.
by ksrclaret
Mon Apr 15, 2024 8:10 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Obafemi
Replies: 38
Views: 2845

Re: Obafemi

boatshed bill wrote:
Mon Apr 15, 2024 8:03 pm
So did we sign him with fitness issues or not?
Did we sign him for a reported £12million or not?
Take a chill pill, Bill, as the kids might (no longer) say.
by ksrclaret
Mon Apr 15, 2024 8:01 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Obafemi
Replies: 38
Views: 2845

Re: Obafemi

boatshed bill wrote:
Mon Apr 15, 2024 7:59 pm
We were never going to pay that.
We loaned him, I believe, knowing he had fitness issues. Sounds like he's just about got himself fully match-fit now with Millwall.
He only had fitness issues because he barely featured for Swansea after being denied a move to us in the summer.
by ksrclaret
Mon Apr 15, 2024 7:51 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Obafemi
Replies: 38
Views: 2845

Re: Obafemi

nil_desperandum wrote:
Mon Apr 15, 2024 7:36 pm
Fully agree. They were wanting about 12 million as I recall.
Crikey. I didn't realise it was that much. I had £9m in my head but it was a while ago so could be wrong.

I dread to think how much money we'd have lost on him had we paid around those figures.
by ksrclaret
Mon Apr 15, 2024 7:47 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Obafemi
Replies: 38
Views: 2845

Re: Obafemi

boatshed bill wrote:
Mon Apr 15, 2024 7:42 pm
But we didn't, so your dread is wasted.
Oh heck, Bill.
by ksrclaret
Mon Apr 15, 2024 7:32 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Obafemi
Replies: 38
Views: 2845

Re: Obafemi

I'm just glad we didn't sign him in August 2022 when I dread to think how much more money would have been chucked down the pan.
by ksrclaret
Mon Apr 15, 2024 7:20 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Fitness
Replies: 71
Views: 2767

Re: Fitness

CoolClaret wrote:
Mon Apr 15, 2024 7:15 pm
I'm not one to pretend to be 'ITK' but I've heard that went down like a lead balloon. Hardly worked either has it?
Especially not given most of the players he called back have either been shipped out somewhere else now or have hardly featured.

What a braindead decision.
by ksrclaret
Mon Apr 15, 2024 7:12 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Fitness
Replies: 71
Views: 2767

Re: Fitness

Remember at the end of last season when VK had them back in for pre season about 2 weeks after the season finished and it was seen as revolutionary. This is what you get. Even at the time, I saw lots of people calling that out for exactly what it was. A publicity stunt to court attention from the m...
by ksrclaret
Sun Apr 14, 2024 5:27 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Been with your Mrs for 30 years and don’t love her.
Replies: 53
Views: 2793

Re: Been with your Mrs for 30 years and don’t love her.

It’s been an absolutely wretched season where it seems to me that the fans just feel exasperated by the decisions that have been made and are just a bit apathetic to it all. The fans know that we are so brittle and we’re turning up to every game expecting to lose. Those early hidings at home did for...
by ksrclaret
Sun Apr 14, 2024 4:52 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: We need to talk about Foster
Replies: 85
Views: 3556

Re: We need to talk about Foster

There is clearly a fantastic player in Lyle Foster. At the beginning of the season he looked just about our only player capable of playing at PL level. I think he was also the player with the highest average rating the last time CT calculated it. I do think next season is make or break for him now t...
by ksrclaret
Sun Apr 14, 2024 1:42 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Striker, Left Back, Defensive Midfielder
Replies: 53
Views: 1918

Re: Striker, Left Back, Defensive Midfielder

given JJ's comments on stick to football about not being able to play the football we played in the Championship in the Premier League I suspect there has been a re-think - I've no idea what that will look like but I suspect we will be signing units rather than lightweights I really hope you’re cor...
by ksrclaret
Sun Apr 14, 2024 11:07 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Fitness
Replies: 71
Views: 2767

Re: Fitness

That Fofana jog reminds me of the kids in PE class who really couldn't be arsed to join in.

Can anyone imagine Sean Dyche putting up with some of the antics we've seen from our players this season?
by ksrclaret
Sun Apr 14, 2024 11:01 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Striker, Left Back, Defensive Midfielder
Replies: 53
Views: 1918

Re: Striker, Left Back, Defensive Midfielder

I dread to think of which expensive flops the MUD analytics software will come up with this time.

Hopefully we’ll sign players with the qualities we need as opposed to signing players who might, potentially, one day, if the wind is in the right direction, make us a profit.
by ksrclaret
Sat Apr 13, 2024 10:11 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: So do you drop Muric after two massive costly howlers?
Replies: 343
Views: 6207

Re: So do you drop Muric after two massive costly howlers?

LOL at you geeks still doing the Muric vs Trafford thing as if you’re all not completely and utterly entrenched in your views already.

Never let a good error go to waste.
by ksrclaret
Sat Apr 13, 2024 9:05 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley v Brighton - Player Ratings
Replies: 91
Views: 3924

Re: Burnley v Brighton - Player Ratings

Muric 3 - no words Assignon 6 Ekdal 8 Esteve 8 Vitinho 6 Berge 6 Cullen 7 Odobert 6 Fofana 4 - seriously shocking Foster 3 - seriously, seriously shocking Larsen 5 Taylor 5 Brownhill 6 Rodriguez 5 This was actually a good performance in which our man-for-man system worked really well in making Brigh...
by ksrclaret
Sat Apr 13, 2024 8:57 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: So do you drop Muric after two massive costly howlers?
Replies: 343
Views: 6207

Re: So do you drop Muric after two massive costly howlers?

equinox wrote:
Sat Apr 13, 2024 8:42 pm
Jack Butland at Rangers is better than both Trafford and Muric.

Sometimes it's not that difficult this management thing.
Far too sensible a suggestion for our managerial genius.
by ksrclaret
Fri Apr 12, 2024 12:29 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Estève was our best in Everton defeat
Replies: 16
Views: 824

Re: ARTICLE: Estève was our best in Everton defeat

Potential they are talking about. He has all the attributes to be a top defender. Getting better every game. Him and Beyer be an unreal championship partnership Yeah fair enough, I can see him doing well in the Championship. I’m with CT at the moment though in that I don’t yet see someone with the ...
by ksrclaret
Fri Apr 12, 2024 9:17 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Estève was our best in Everton defeat
Replies: 16
Views: 824

Re: ARTICLE: Estève was our best in Everton defeat

I'm shocked that anyone would be comparing Esteve to Keane or Tarkowski at this stage. He has had some decent games and some poor games so far.

As yet, he's a long way off comparisons to two of our top three centre halves in recent years, in my opinion.
by ksrclaret
Wed Apr 10, 2024 8:12 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Dyche to be sacked?
Replies: 41
Views: 3404

Re: Dyche to be sacked?

I thought I was good at spotting multiple accounts, but this one has got me. Who is Nori on this thread? Nothing reads like them, IMO. ISpeds00 Nori/Grumps/Longsidelenny etc etc have always approached trolling from different angles. It’s a full time job for them to manage so many different personal...
by ksrclaret
Wed Apr 10, 2024 7:38 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: It’s Muric for a third game in Wolves draw
Replies: 3
Views: 216

Re: ARTICLE: It’s Muric for a third game in Wolves draw

boatshed bill wrote:
Wed Apr 10, 2024 7:36 pm
I think he may miss out on a fourth :D
Down, boy
by ksrclaret
Wed Apr 10, 2024 7:12 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Dyche to be sacked?
Replies: 41
Views: 3404

Re: Dyche to be sacked?

Good to see Nori all over this thread.

And when I say good to see…
by ksrclaret
Wed Apr 10, 2024 5:22 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Dyche to be sacked?
Replies: 41
Views: 3404

Re: Dyche to be sacked?

He’s got Vincent Kompany to thank for the fact he’s still got a job today. Aren’t we his only two wins in the last 15?
by ksrclaret
Wed Apr 10, 2024 2:29 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brilliant New Burnley Podcast
Replies: 792
Views: 67085

Re: Brilliant New Burnley Podcast

Very interesting episode. Very concerning if we don't get back up next season.
by ksrclaret
Wed Apr 10, 2024 11:56 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Loan player situations upon relegation (or survival!)
Replies: 15
Views: 948

Re: Loan player situations upon relegation (or survival!)

My understanding from what I’ve read is as follows: Esteve and Larsen are to sign permanently because their loans included the obligation to buy. Tresor has already signed permanently, but there does now appear to some doubt about this, although it seems to stem from the fact he’s been dropped from ...
by ksrclaret
Tue Apr 09, 2024 10:03 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Real v City
Replies: 36
Views: 1698

Re: Real v City

Can only echo the other comments regarding the standard of officiating tonight. I'd actually forgotten that referees can make consistently good decisions, keep up with play, and maintain control of both sides without it spilling over. Mike Riley and now Howard Webb really have destroyed the refereei...
by ksrclaret
Tue Apr 09, 2024 5:46 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Teams for Brighton
Replies: 34
Views: 1962

Re: Teams for Brighton

Muric Vitinho — Ekdal — Esteve — Taylor JBG — Cullen — Berge — Larsen Odobert — Foster Brighton carry a big threat down their left with their LB Estupinan who sees a lot of the ball and combines well with one of their wingers. For that reason I’d play JBG in front of Vitinho to help defend that flan...
by ksrclaret
Tue Apr 09, 2024 1:33 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: So who's renewed their ST?
Replies: 163
Views: 7315

Re: So who's renewed their ST?

dsr wrote:
Tue Apr 09, 2024 1:23 pm
I can honestly say I have never suspected anyone of being "passive aggressive" at me. Clearly I haven't had enough practice at taking offence where none is intended.
Nobody has ever been passive aggressive to you? :o Are you single by any chance? :D
by ksrclaret
Tue Apr 09, 2024 1:22 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: So who's renewed their ST?
Replies: 163
Views: 7315

Re: So who's renewed their ST?

dsr wrote:
Tue Apr 09, 2024 1:16 pm
If you're in a grumpy mood, everything is "passive aggressive" - whether they talk to you or not. It's a modern way of deflecting all blame for everything onto someone else. :roll:
Speak for yourself.
by ksrclaret
Mon Apr 08, 2024 9:46 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Relegation
Replies: 76
Views: 4636

Re: Relegation

GetIntoEm wrote:
Mon Apr 08, 2024 9:20 am
cheery bunch on here, probably same ones who predicted relegation to oblivion last year.

Absolutely we will be firm favourites to come back up, and certainly will have the best squad in that league potentially.
I certainly agree with you there, potentially.
by ksrclaret
Sun Apr 07, 2024 6:42 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Interesting that potential contract clause mentioned again.
Replies: 61
Views: 3361

Re: Interesting that potential contract clause mentioned again.

You cant see the difference? I was expressing an opinion on our performance along with the view that people have overreacted to it because of the result. You were just being ignorant, presumably because you didn't like somebody disagreeing with you. Anyway, this is another thread ruined by somebody...
by ksrclaret
Sun Apr 07, 2024 6:34 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Interesting that potential contract clause mentioned again.
Replies: 61
Views: 3361

Re: Interesting that potential contract clause mentioned again.

Goliath wrote:
Sun Apr 07, 2024 6:30 pm
If you don't like the topic of conversation, don't involve yourself. Or just keep being a pillock, your choice.
Interesting response. Maybe you’ll take your own advice on other threads such as CT’s match report.
by ksrclaret
Sun Apr 07, 2024 6:05 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Interesting that potential contract clause mentioned again.
Replies: 61
Views: 3361

Re: Interesting that potential contract clause mentioned again.

Goliath wrote:
Sun Apr 07, 2024 6:04 pm
I see what you've done there
Good. Stop it then.
by ksrclaret
Sun Apr 07, 2024 6:02 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Interesting that potential contract clause mentioned again.
Replies: 61
Views: 3361

Re: Interesting that potential contract clause mentioned again.

Goliath wrote:
Sun Apr 07, 2024 6:00 pm
Where did he say that? Ive never put much stock in those rumours, but an ex player saying it is a different kettle of fish. I very much the doubt hes the type to trot out rumours without some substance to be honest, which makes it quite worrying
Stop being a bed wetter.
by ksrclaret
Sun Apr 07, 2024 5:53 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: If VK is made director of football who is our manager?
Replies: 43
Views: 2067

Re: If VK is made director of football who is our manager?

I can't see him wanting to be in that sort of setup either - which to me is his self-belief / arrogance. Reading between the lines that's why he left Anderlecht as well and why he joined us in the first place (that level of control/influence). Now, I could be wrong but I have a feeling that he may ...
by ksrclaret
Sun Apr 07, 2024 5:00 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: REPORT: Clarets suffer a damaging defeat at Everton
Replies: 29
Views: 2075

Re: REPORT: Clarets suffer a damaging defeat at Everton

I questioned myself on what I’d seen when I saw this quote from our manager on the way home. “I don't think you need to overanalyse [the mistakes]," Kompany told BBC Match of the Day when asked about Muric's error and O'Shea's red card. "The main thing for us is that I think we played really well a...
by ksrclaret
Sun Apr 07, 2024 4:31 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: REPORT: Clarets suffer a damaging defeat at Everton
Replies: 29
Views: 2075

Re: REPORT: Clarets suffer a damaging defeat at Everton

Just how many reports have had to be written this season detailing yet another half-arsed and incompetent showing.

Whatever style of football this manager is trying to implement, it’s as plain as day that we’re not capable of it.
by ksrclaret
Sun Apr 07, 2024 2:42 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: The cost of playing out badly
Replies: 55
Views: 2859

Re: The cost of playing out badly

Nonsense (my last post to this). Some stats are obscure, others are direct relevance to goals. The one you objected to today wasn’t an obscure stat like xG, it was simply goals conceded from open play. My point was simple - that half a dozen sides have conceded similar. That’s not an opinion, it is...
by ksrclaret
Sun Apr 07, 2024 2:27 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: The cost of playing out badly
Replies: 55
Views: 2859

Re: The cost of playing out badly

Indeed. And it is shocking. The poster who I replied to though was being insulting (due to not having a proper argument) in reply to a stat about open play defending, hence why I demonstrating we are no worse than several other teams in this regard. I can see why stats are annoying - they can destr...
by ksrclaret
Sun Apr 07, 2024 11:49 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: The cost of playing out badly
Replies: 55
Views: 2859

Re: The cost of playing out badly

Stats can show when someone is right and someone else is wrong. Like with you in this case. We have conceded 42 from non set pieces. Chelsea have conceded 38. Brentford 46. West Ham 40. Yes, we are poor at it, but there are worse sides. It isn’t the reason why we are going down. Attack is. And, I w...
by ksrclaret
Sun Apr 07, 2024 10:47 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: O'Shea ball control
Replies: 48
Views: 3245

Re: O'Shea ball control

Sorry ,but I christened him 'O SH%TE months back!!! He's far from shite. He's actually got 2 goals and 4 assists already this season which is the record in terms of goal contributions for a PL centre half. He's also our best defender and isn't someone you can accuse of being half-arsed like a few o...
by ksrclaret
Sun Apr 07, 2024 10:01 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: The cost of playing out badly
Replies: 55
Views: 2859

Re: The cost of playing out badly

We have conceded 42 from open play, City have 23. So if the figure was indeed 20 we would be better than City other than this at defending, so it obviously isn’t. I suspect the figure is more like 6-7. And I bet other teams are similar. It isn’t our issue, attack is. But the “overplaying” has been ...
by ksrclaret
Sun Apr 07, 2024 9:58 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: If VK is made director of football who is our manager?
Replies: 43
Views: 2067

Re: If VK is made director of football who is our manager?

I can honestly say I’ve never once seen it written that Kompany might take up a Director of Football position.

Have you got a link?
by ksrclaret
Sat Apr 06, 2024 11:51 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: O'Shea ball control
Replies: 48
Views: 3245

Re: O'Shea ball control

He has improved, and credit for that, but the difference between who we tried to sign across the team and who we actually signed is a huge gulf. O’Shea epitomises that (it was only a yellow card for me today but he also got turned earlier by DCL badly). I’d say only Berge, Amdouni and Tresor fit th...
by ksrclaret
Sat Apr 06, 2024 11:35 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: I’m so sick of Kompany
Replies: 349
Views: 15468

Re: I’m so sick of Kompany

Just watching the highlights back now on MOTD and we are just an absolute car crash of a team. The players just cannot play like the manager asks, whatever that actually is. Every game is littered with tens and tens of errors. The manager's judgement is appalling.
by ksrclaret
Sat Apr 06, 2024 9:07 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: I’m so sick of Kompany
Replies: 349
Views: 15468

Re: I’m so sick of Kompany

interesting Cullen - captain at Anderlecht O'Shea - captain at WBA Berge - captained Norway There may be more I think it's probably a little more complex than just plucking captains from others teams. The sloppiness, poor mentality, and poor discipline we've seen all season tells it's own story.
by ksrclaret
Sat Apr 06, 2024 8:59 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: I’m so sick of Kompany
Replies: 349
Views: 15468

Re: I’m so sick of Kompany

When a manager has been there 8 years there’s going to be an element of his finger prints still being around the club, but having barnes in the squad wasn’t implementing dyches ethos and imprint on Beyer, Cullen, tella and benson to name a few, that was all on kompany and the staff with the style I...
by ksrclaret
Sat Apr 06, 2024 8:46 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: I’m so sick of Kompany
Replies: 349
Views: 15468

Re: I’m so sick of Kompany

Newcastleclaret is a plonker more often than not, everyone knows that, but he has a point here. Kompany inherited some Dyche warriors and their impact on the 22/23 season shouldn't be underestimated. Kompany added the icing and sprinkles, but underlying the team was a core strength. In the 24/25 sea...