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aggi

That's a very convenient memory loss! :lol: You're kidding no one. Especially yourself. You only made the references to his "house" following my pop at Angela Rayner. Anyway you carry on twisting what I said and I'll just take the opportunity to point out what that over promoted clown, Angela " it'...

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Rewriting history once again aggi! You simply cannot help yourself can you! :lol: On the first day of her new job as deputy leader of the labour party, Angela Raynor was responding to criticism of people sunbathing and exercising in parks. 'It's ok for people with big houses to say that': Labour's ...

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tiger76 wrote: ↑
Thu May 28, 2020 10:26 pm
He didn't break the rules driving to Durham,however he did break the rules in driving to Barnard Castle.

I don't think this has actually been defined either way. The statement from Durham police was very careful not to mention it.

aggi

Wait until Ringo finds out that Cummings' house cost more than a million quid, he won't know what to think.

aggi

DC wouldn't have mentioned sat nav and phone records if he wasnt sure he was on solid ground. If it's good enough for the prime minister, its the end of it. There's nothing you or anybody else can do about it. Like I say I wont hold my breath for the embarrassing retraction. They'll probably be gla...

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Grumps wrote: ↑
Thu May 28, 2020 3:25 pm
Without social distancing yes

Well in busy places you can have functioning public transport or social distancing, not both. That's the issue.

aggi

Here you go, knock yourselves out
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=36513&start=20100#p1127783

aggi

Does it exist? surely in this modern world it shouldn't be hard to verify and publish it online. Well Johnson says he has seen it but he refuses to publish it or pass it to the cabinet secretary. I guess maybe he's planning on doing things in chronological order and will release it after the Russia...

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There was a track and trace expert on the news explaining that the app isn't the main part. You have to have been, in contact of less than 2m for at least 15mins with someone with Covid to trigger being contacted, which means most people will know the person concerned The app is really for contact ...

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Any idea when the "newspapers" that claimed DC went back and forth to Durham . Will publish their embarrassing retraction and apologise for misleading their gullible ,easily lead left wing readership!? See AndrewJB , look how easy it is ! 😉 Probably when Johnson releases the evidence that shows it ...

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Have Durham Police put this into perspective? Justified in travelling to Durham, a minor breach travelling to Barnard Castle that warrants no further action. (According to Guardian report of Telegraph report) Not the best example re: Cummings In a statement, Scotland Yard said it was committed to s...

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Strangely, the government is still not convinced of the sense of having a huge balance of payments deficit and allowing the EU to set the UK's rules. I know it's an article of faith with the pro-EU faction that tariffs on our imports are bad for Britain and good for the EU, while tariffs on our exp...

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I’ve just noticed on this thread that Easter Sunday was his wife’s birthday. Totally reasonable to go somewhere nice after two weeks of hell struggling to breathe. Unfortunately, not totally reasonable if this is during a lockdown. I think we can all imagine his thought processes throughout this ep...

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Just in case there is still confusion. The relevant paragraph that says that arranging childcare is this: and that paragraph of the Vulnerable Groups Act 2006(3) says I do not believe that portion of the Act was intended to say that you may leave the house to support a 70 year person but you may no...

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Hmm https://www.google.co.uk/search?source=hp&ei=fpjNXo2tDvGKlwSWgan4Dg&q=%E2%80%9COnly+last+year+I+wrote+explicitly+about+the+danger+of+coronaviruses%E2%80%9D&oq=%E2%80%9COnly+last+year+I+wrote+explicitly+about+the+danger+of+coronaviruses%E2%80%9D&gs_lcp=ChFtb2JpbGUtZ3dzLXdpei1ocBADOgIIKToFCCkQgwE...

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Hi aggi, really, you think that the covid-19 lockdown regulations had stopped children being vulnerable, just because they weren't mentioned in the covid-19 definition about vulnerability? I'm sure you remember that domestic abuse has been mentioned as a "lockdown" issue. Did it exclude children fr...

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Hi martin, there are many reasons why a child can be vulnerable, it doesn't have to be vulnerable specific to covid-19 infection. The piece of legislation that DSR was quoting was very specific on its definition of a vulnerable person. DSR was making the same mistake as you and ignoring that very s...

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Other than on here, has anyone used the vulnerable child as an excuse to move from London? Cummings certainly didn't in the presser yesterday I think what DSR is trying to suggest, albeit wrongly, is that any child is by definition vulnerable and so when Cummings was talking about having to go to D...

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But I don't know if he was right or wrong, neither do you, but you just presume he is because it suits an agenda. I've said that if it's proved otherwise I'll support his haranguing, but IF he told us the truth, then I don't think he has done anything wrong. That's true, I don't know for certain. I...

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This is what the law said at that time about restrictions on movement: Restrictions on movement 6.—(1) During the emergency period, no person may leave the place where they are living without reasonable excuse. (2) For the purposes of paragraph (1), a reasonable excuse includes the need — (a)to obt...

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This is the account of the Cummings household Coronavirus experience:

aggi

It does make a difference what the breach was for. Some people - not everyone, mind - see a trip for the wellbeing of a child is different from a trip to check on the wellbeing of a house, or a small party at home. Even on the visiting the second home, the Scottish official could have had a case. I...

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On a broader note I was of the view that if Cummings had come out straight away and apologised then this would probably all have blown over (for most people) fairly quickly. What has been bizarre though is watching people (both on here and MPs and ministers) tie themselves in knots to defend Cumming...

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Driving 200 miles to buy windows, when there are windows nearer would be unnecessary. If your family live 200 miles away, and you want them to be the ones to help look after your child, then you don't have a choice about how far you drive. If this was anybody other than Dominic Cummings, nobody wou...

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No, I was referring more to the quantity of food that would be imported rather than the details of the relative welfare rules. Sorry for the confusion. Fair enough. I think in general the US standards are rarely better than the EU (the pigs you referred to are the same for the EU and US, the EU is ...

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I didn't compare EU standards with the USA - only with the UK. Specifically, apart from the foie gras, Eastern Europe has much lower standards on care of pigs, and Spain (someone else raised this) has appalling standards on feeding animals on antibiotics. At present we can enforce welfare standards...

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It’s called “subjective liability” rather than “objective liability” this might help “Subjective mens rea, as a form of liability, takes on the persona of the accused person by focusing on the accused’s intention, knowledge or awareness at the time of the offence. Instead, in the objective form of ...

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If a drop in farm welfare, it'll drop more with a trade deal with the EU than it would with the USA. EU animal welfare standards are poor, and this is our chance to impose the same standards on imports as we make our own farmers follow. People who are opposed to a US trade deal if it negatively imp...

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TBF he hasn't broken any policy. The policy stated nobody should be making any unnecessary journeys, WHEREVER POSSIBLE. He deemed it necessary, rightly or wrongly, therefore he did nothing wrong. This is a spectacular interpretation. So long as the person involved deems something necessary they can...

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It's like they've only just discovered this internet thing.

aggi

Today's UTC scoop.

Ringo in protecting the Islington metropolitan elite shocker.

aggi

They're all hypocrites and that's why party allegiance means nothing to me,however for a cabinet minister to flout his own government's guidance should have been a demotion offence at least,how can anybody take them seriously anymore when they wilfully ignore their own advice. A link from the Beeb ...

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The difference between Corbyn and Cummings is that the latter is hated by much of the spectrum - all of the left, all Remainers, many Brexiteers and much of the right. Take Steve Baker’s vitriol yesterday as an example. Much of that dislike is deserved. I’m witnessing people losing all perspective ...

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They should have gone to their parents. Staying at home because they didn't want to risk harming their parents, fair enough; staying at home because they think that the guidelines are more important than life itself, that's taking it too far. With respect Aggi that person is stupid. If someone need...

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Someone I know said this, I suspect it will be the sentiment of quite a few My wife and I were both very unwell with COVID, at one point my wife was about to call 999 because I couldn't get up off the floor. We looked after our 2 year old with incredible difficulty because we were told to stay at ho...

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This is definitely my favourite take on it so far

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CrosspoolClarets wrote: ↑
Sun May 24, 2020 10:42 pm

In my many years following politics, I can’t remember anyone triggering as much hate as Cummings. Just an observation.

You're going to be amazed when you find out about this Jeremy Corbyn bloke.

aggi

fanzone wrote: ↑
Sun May 24, 2020 10:39 pm
Who is it that usually pays the wages of teachers.

Local authorities.

aggi

Because I don't like witch hunts. I didn't join in the Corbyn-hates-Jews campaign (except for the bit about not remembering why he was in a certain graveyard, which was absurd) for the same reason. I'm not a fan of Cummings, tohugh he is good at election campaigns, but once the campaign is over the...

aggi

Interesting to read that these lockdown rules don't apply if you have children. I wonder how many people will be appealing fines on this basis.

aggi

It won't be 12. The average age of corona victims at death (based on mid-point of 5 year age gaps) is 78.35 for men, 81.82 for women, and the average life expectancy of corona victims (again based on mid-point of 6 year age gaps, and using social security actuarial tables) is 10.28 years for men, 9...

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In the long run, "excess deaths" one year makes no difference to the annual average. Ultimately, the number of deaths is 1 per person; any excess deaths one year are one death the less in subsequent years. Whether those deaths would have happened next year or in ten years all averages out over time...

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They've made a rod for their own back in many ways. The Leave campaign spent so long saying that we could have our cake and eat it that whatever we do end up with is going to seem like a step down (the NI border checks are a good example of this where the reality never matched the claims). I suspect...

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I was just looking at plans for a primary school near me to go back. The classrooms are too small for 15 in a class so they've looked to reduce that to 10 in a class. Obviously that means a minimum of 9 classrooms in a school with 7 classrooms so they're trying to work around that. They're also tryi...

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Well they can't blame the EU anymore,and last time i checked the Conservatives have been in power for 10 years one way or another,either as a majority government or as the main party in coalitions. Time to take responsibility and grasp the nettle,if they don't Farage is lurking in the shadows. I ad...

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dsr wrote: ↑
Thu May 21, 2020 12:21 pm
"The good news is - you don't have coronavirus. The bad news is - your test was done in America."

I doubt anyone would be too bothered.

I think it was more the widely reported issue that they took a week to process them.

aggi

I see that net EU migration to the UK is well down which should make some people happy. Obviously, as predicted many times, net migration to the UK is pretty much the same as usual with non-EU migration increasing to compensate for it.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-52752656

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m000j949 Good bit of testing from 12:30 on testing Govt includes in it's numbers test by ONS and Universities for research purposes, over 30k a day currently. These are being used for statistical & research purposes but they are not being used to diagnose cases. Th...

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People flocking to the English riviera despite being told to stay away https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-52742519 If they're that bored maybe they should go back to work :roll: If you're going to tell people that it's fine to travel as far as you want to have a day out then that's going t...

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Mr Johnson replied: "We have growing confidence that we will have a test, track and trace operation that will be world-beating and yes, it will be in place by June 1." I really wonder why we have to bother with this kind of crap. One that works as well as a load of the other countries who have alre...

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