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by aggi
Wed Apr 17, 2024 9:28 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 12752
Views: 1247175

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Every team in the Premier league tried breaking Asia. When I went to Thailand (about 10 years ago) it was Liverpool and Man Utd stuff everywhere. Their fake shirts all over market stalls for 2 or 3 quid. Without winning a league title I'm not sure how you attract overseas fans in numbers. To turn t...
by aggi
Wed Apr 17, 2024 9:22 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 12752
Views: 1247175

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

What do you honestly think motivates them to spend their days in rainy Lancashire rather than sipping cocktails on Palm Beach? I'm sure they are in it to make money and that's a significant motivation. I'd hope that they are also bright enough to realise that the best way of making money is for the...
by aggi
Wed Apr 17, 2024 5:52 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 12752
Views: 1247175

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Saudi Arabia and Qatar, to add a couple more. Whoever it is that owns Bournemouth, too. And Leicester and Forest, and for that matter Andy Holt at Accrington Stanley. The blokes at Wrexham, and Salford. It's not uncommon. I think I'd prefer Burnley to be owned by some businessmen looking to make a ...
by aggi
Wed Apr 17, 2024 12:29 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Season tickets next season
Replies: 835
Views: 53354

Re: Season tickets next season

I see Forest fans are very unhappy about their season ticket prices for next season and aslo complaining that the Fan Advisory Board were less consulted and more informed about the increases.
by aggi
Wed Apr 17, 2024 12:27 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Controlling the ball with the sole of the foot
Replies: 10
Views: 1087

Re: Controlling the ball with the sole of the foot

I didn't feel brave enough to venture into 350 posts on whether we should drop Muric where I guess it was linked.
by aggi
Wed Apr 17, 2024 12:26 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 12752
Views: 1247175

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Not really clear to me how anyone can view our current ownership with anything other than dread and upset. In the scale of football club owners I'd say that ours aren't that high up on the dread and upset scale. It's not an ideal structure (although I think many people had a very rosy view of what ...
by aggi
Wed Apr 17, 2024 12:09 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Jrod
Replies: 52
Views: 3469

Re: Jrod

ClaretTony wrote:
Wed Apr 17, 2024 11:11 am
I think they were Steve's agent
That could have been it. I think half of our team were with them at one point.
by aggi
Wed Apr 17, 2024 10:50 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Jrod
Replies: 52
Views: 3469

Re: Jrod

ClaretTony wrote:
Tue Apr 16, 2024 8:03 pm
He’s been with Beswicks a long time I think
Is that the one that Steve Cotterill was involved with somehow?
by aggi
Wed Apr 17, 2024 10:30 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Controlling the ball with the sole of the foot
Replies: 10
Views: 1087

Controlling the ball with the sole of the foot

I'm sure I'm not the only one wondering why Muric tried to control the ball with the sole of his foot on Saturday.

Seems it is a thing according to the Athletic. Used to try and draw the opposition out to pass through them

https://archive.ph/icCLP
by aggi
Tue Apr 16, 2024 5:04 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: 2023/24: Sheffield United v Burnley – Ticket Information
Replies: 96
Views: 5556

Re: 2023/24: Sheffield United v Burnley – Ticket Information

It is a stupid practice that they insist should happen. Twice this season when hey have emailed asking for feedback on how to improve things at the club I have mentioned this method of sales. The second time labelling it stupid due to them saying sold out and people seeing it and then not bothering...
by aggi
Sun Apr 14, 2024 4:27 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley Women
Replies: 59
Views: 9303

Re: Burnley Women

aggi wrote:
Sun Apr 14, 2024 3:10 pm
Looks like Newcastle will seal promotion today. Need a win and they're 4-0 up at half time.
They won 10-0 in the end. They've only dropped 5 points all season so a tough ask to keep up with them.
by aggi
Sun Apr 14, 2024 3:10 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley Women
Replies: 59
Views: 9303

Re: Burnley Women

Looks like Newcastle will seal promotion today. Need a win and they're 4-0 up at half time.
by aggi
Sat Apr 13, 2024 12:39 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brilliant New Burnley Podcast
Replies: 792
Views: 67469

Re: Brilliant New Burnley Podcast

The previous owners didn't incur £230 million worth of creditors or spend £124 million of the club's money on shares. ALK are being held accountable commensurate to their actions not because they are ALK. Man Utd suffered a breakaway club as a result of a similar purchase and huge fan antipathy. Gi...
by aggi
Sat Apr 13, 2024 12:20 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Agents Fees
Replies: 29
Views: 1377

Re: Agents Fees

It’s about time this was stopped. Players should pay their own agents out of their massive salaries and clubs should not be permitted to be affiliated with any of the parasites Technically they do. This is amounts paid by clubs to agents for services to clubs. There will be more that is paid to age...
by aggi
Fri Apr 12, 2024 10:18 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brilliant New Burnley Podcast
Replies: 792
Views: 67469

Re: Brilliant New Burnley Podcast

Just listened to the Kieran Maguire one, obviously nothing revelatory but nice to hear a Brighton fan talk a bit more realistically about how they got to where they are now One thing which was a bit glossed over, possibly because it's just viewed as normal now, is how you need an owner to pretty muc...
by aggi
Fri Apr 12, 2024 7:48 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brighton tickets for sale - proceeds to foodbank
Replies: 5
Views: 547

Re: Brighton tickets for sale - proceeds to foodbank

These are still available.
by aggi
Fri Apr 12, 2024 1:29 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brighton tickets for sale - proceeds to foodbank
Replies: 5
Views: 547

Brighton tickets for sale - proceeds to foodbank

Not sure if this is allowed, feel free to delete it not. At the start of the season I got a couple of Jimmy Mac Upper tickets (block 4) for tomorrow's match against Brighton and then promptly forgot about buying them. I now can't use them so happy to take any reasonable offers with proceeds going to...
by aggi
Mon Apr 08, 2024 1:53 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 12752
Views: 1247175

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

The Asset Match Admission statement has been partially updated - it has still got a number of errors and issues: - The date of the Submission document remains as December 15 2023 and there is no indication that the document has been updated -surely such changes have legal consequence - Section 3 no...
by aggi
Mon Apr 08, 2024 1:27 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: 'The Project'...
Replies: 58
Views: 2429

Re: 'The Project'...

I get your concern CP and share it too. But when you say “for operational and trading purposes” a more simplistic way of saying this is that they were using it to fund transfer spend…..let’s say it as it is. The fundamental issue is that the money we have spent on players has not worked out. If it ...
by aggi
Mon Apr 08, 2024 1:23 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: 'The Project'...
Replies: 58
Views: 2429

Re: 'The Project'...

I'm sure you will understand that if BDO didn't think going concern was correct they would have qualified their audit opinion. Of course. Your post read as if it was downplaying the material uncertainty note by saying accounts were still prepared on a going concern basis whereas we both know that a...
by aggi
Mon Apr 08, 2024 11:41 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: 'The Project'...
Replies: 58
Views: 2429

Re: 'The Project'...

For those who have listened to the Offensive we know how the project ends
https://stak.london/shows/the-offensive/

More realistically, we are one of the best placed teams to become a yo-yo club.
by aggi
Mon Apr 08, 2024 11:39 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: 'The Project'...
Replies: 58
Views: 2429

Re: 'The Project'...

Hi CP, my thoughts: 1) a bit much to pick out 2 January windows and one summer windows, especially when the club sold a number of players in the summer window before those 3 you mention, especially when the club has brought in players in each of Vincent Kompany's 4 windows. 2) how much money do you...
by aggi
Mon Apr 08, 2024 10:56 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Interesting that potential contract clause mentioned again.
Replies: 61
Views: 3409

Re: Interesting that potential contract clause mentioned again.

Some people have never played Football Manager and it shows. Quite common for players to sign for clubs upon having agreed a certain amount of playing time conditions. Fairly well known isn't it that Bellingham turned down Man United and chose Dortmund because they promised him consistent first tea...
by aggi
Mon Apr 08, 2024 10:49 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Should we be shilling a crypto card product when we can't promote our own Season Cards?
Replies: 36
Views: 1410

Re: Should we be shilling a crypto card product when we can't promote our own Season Cards?

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by aggi
Sun Apr 07, 2024 8:22 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Interesting that potential contract clause mentioned again.
Replies: 61
Views: 3409

Re: Interesting that potential contract clause mentioned again.

What happens if he doesn’t play in 75% of games? A good question. The only real remedy would be financial or termination so are we really expecting the board to have signed a contract where Trafford gets a bonus for not playing or is allowed to leave for cheap/free? There's no point just having the...
by aggi
Sun Apr 07, 2024 1:38 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Who's done enough to get a move?
Replies: 33
Views: 2193

Re: Who's done enough to get a move?

Also worth noting that if you sell a player you need to pay all outstanding fees on him. So if we signed Berge for £15m over 4 years we'd have paid £7.5m by the end of the next window with £7.5m to go. But if we sold him for £20m over 4 years we might only get £5m upfront but need to pay the remaini...
by aggi
Sat Apr 06, 2024 8:10 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: RATE THE REF - Michael Oliver v Everton
Replies: 22
Views: 1396

Re: RATE THE REF - Michael Oliver v Everton

I’m not generally his biggest fan but thought he had an excellent game today. I haven’t seen the red card incident again so if he got it wrong then his marks might well have been lower than I’m giving. A 20 B 22 C 22 D 22 I viewed the red card as harsh as I'm aware that Muric is generally pretty sh...
by aggi
Sat Apr 06, 2024 5:55 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Chelsea and diving ...
Replies: 23
Views: 1623

Re: Chelsea and diving ...

Rileybobs wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2024 11:38 am
Even worse is that VAR encourages diving, because if you dive and in the process of doing so the opposition player makes the most minimal of contact, the VAR is likely to give the pen, and almost certain to if the on field ref already has.
Yep, you get a double chance of being rewarded.
by aggi
Sat Apr 06, 2024 5:49 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Toffees vs Clarets Match Thread
Replies: 494
Views: 15218

Re: Toffees vs Clarets Match Thread

KRBFC wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2024 4:49 pm
Foster looks poor to me, more like the Foster from last season.
Probably because he's not a winger.
by aggi
Sat Apr 06, 2024 4:46 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Toffees vs Clarets Match Thread
Replies: 494
Views: 15218

Re: Toffees vs Clarets Match Thread

Don't know what this Foster wide, Odobert central is. Really doesn't work.

Sending off looked a bit unlucky, I think Muric may have got there. Stupid though.
by aggi
Sat Apr 06, 2024 2:35 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brilliant New Burnley Podcast
Replies: 792
Views: 67469

Re: Brilliant New Burnley Podcast

got a window with the 25 second title music burst - also tried the download option and got the same If that link isn't working for you then it's probably some issue with your system, I'd guess your media player maybe played a cached version. This is definitely the right file and isn't saved with an...
by aggi
Sat Apr 06, 2024 10:47 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brilliant New Burnley Podcast
Replies: 792
Views: 67469

Re: Brilliant New Burnley Podcast

Chester Perry wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2024 10:17 am
thanks, but still getting the 25 seconds only even after ctrl f5
That's weird. That's a direct link to the MP3 and should give you a 30MB, 33 minutes MP3.

What do you get if you open it in an incognito window or download it?
by aggi
Sat Apr 06, 2024 10:00 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Chelsea and diving ...
Replies: 23
Views: 1623

Re: Chelsea and diving ...

Best case you get a penalty and the opposition get a player sent off. Worst case the ref waves play on.

There's no downside to diving and a considerable upside so it's no surprise that teams do it.
by aggi
Sat Apr 06, 2024 9:54 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brilliant New Burnley Podcast
Replies: 792
Views: 67469

Re: Brilliant New Burnley Podcast

done that several times - rebooted several times, best I have got is showing time of 33 minutes then when I play it does the intro music before seamlessly leaping straight to the Chelsea debrief episode - this was on apple everywhere else I still get the intro music only This should be a link to th...
by aggi
Thu Apr 04, 2024 8:19 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley FC Accounts 2022/23
Replies: 268
Views: 12029

Re: Administration?

Hi Paul As you know different ways to skin a cat !! Last page of the accounts references the management fee paid by the Group of £2.5m to an “affiliated entity”. It was £1.5m in 2022. Completely separate issue but not really been referenced much on the threads on our accounts but the number of empl...
by aggi
Thu Apr 04, 2024 4:37 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley FC Accounts 2022/23
Replies: 268
Views: 12029

Re: Burnley FC Accounts 2022/23

He is American. New York/New Jersey area. Noticeable that JJ Watt is not listed as a director. He is routinely described as 'co-owner' or 'minority owner' or 'minority investor'. It will be interesting to see which of the various companies he has invested in - and for how much. It's assumed that mo...
by aggi
Thu Apr 04, 2024 12:32 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley FC Accounts 2022/23
Replies: 268
Views: 12029

Re: Administration?

I don't find their statement particularly useful, that's kind of the point. We have cash flow issues, have had cash flow issues, and will continue to have cash flow issues like possibly 90% of the rest of the pyramid does. The presence of the statement is, in many ways, more interesting than the wo...
by aggi
Thu Apr 04, 2024 12:15 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 12752
Views: 1247175

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

doesn't help that Matt Slater reports the clubs loan is still with MSD, when he himself reported that ended in his accounts review for 2021/22 last May of course they loans have been refinanced 3 times since then and we have no current knowledge as to the MGG agreement - hopefully the release of th...
by aggi
Wed Apr 03, 2024 1:51 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Sequence of events after Wolves Scored
Replies: 29
Views: 2475

Re: Sequence of events after Wolves Scored

Surely the no foul was part of the build up to Wolves goal and as such should be part of the checking procedure ? It starts again with the free kick being taken, they don't go back any further. Just the same as a goal being scored from an incorrectly awarded corner, they won't overturn the corner a...
by aggi
Wed Apr 03, 2024 10:15 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley FC Accounts 2022/23
Replies: 268
Views: 12029

Re: Administration?

I am not keen on ALK/Pace in general but even I'm willing to concede that this statement is a bit of a nothing passage. If I have a sandwich shop it's akin to my auditors saying 'if this kid is unable to make sandwiches, or is unable to procure stock to make said sandwiches, or the premises falls d...
by aggi
Wed Apr 03, 2024 9:46 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley FC Accounts 2022/23
Replies: 268
Views: 12029

Re: Administration?

The long and short: The auditors have confirmed that there is a risk we would not be a going concern as per note 2.4 in our accounts (as posted by aggi above) Essentially the board has stated the main risk to us is relegation from the PL (and the reduced revenue as a result) but if that happened it...
by aggi
Wed Apr 03, 2024 9:31 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Sequence of events after Wolves Scored
Replies: 29
Views: 2475

Re: Sequence of events after Wolves Scored

VAR was checking for offside. It wasn't particularly close though.

The freekick can't get checked.
by aggi
Tue Apr 02, 2024 10:33 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley FC Accounts 2022/23
Replies: 268
Views: 12029

Re: Administration?

This is the wording from the accounts. There's a risk, it's probably not that big a risk: These financial statements are prepared on a going concern basis. The directors have reasonable expectation that the group will continue in operation existence for the foreseeable future. The directors are awar...
by aggi
Tue Apr 02, 2024 9:48 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley vs Wolves
Replies: 338
Views: 11200

Re: Burnley vs Wolves

Tricky Trevor wrote:
Tue Apr 02, 2024 9:15 pm
O’Shea couldn’t pass wind.
In over 60 years of watching Burnley I’ve never seen a worse passer of a football.
His assist tonight must have been a mis-hit.
He's got the most assists in the team this season.
by aggi
Tue Apr 02, 2024 7:14 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 12752
Views: 1247175

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

there are a couple of howlers in Section 4 - one is completely different to a filing at Companies house two days previous the use of "in" rather than "of" serves a significantly different purpose in my understanding of language Ah yes, looks like the document was prepared in advance and never updat...
by aggi
Tue Apr 02, 2024 6:04 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 12752
Views: 1247175

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

If you click through to this page - there are a series of documents hidden at the bottom right hand side https://www.assetmatch.com/app/OurCompanies/CompanyProfile?companyId=2560 one of which is the Admission Statement - a document legally required in such sales events by the Financial Conduct Auth...
by aggi
Tue Apr 02, 2024 5:54 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley FC Accounts 2022/23
Replies: 268
Views: 12029

Re: Burnley FC Accounts 2022/23

Brighton just announced a British record 123m profit for a football club Second highest after Spurs in 2018. Mainly driven by Chelsea it looks like! Not only the players but £23m for Potter. Interesting to see that the club has started to pay back a bit, £35m, of the £400m or so that is owed to the...
by aggi
Tue Apr 02, 2024 5:18 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 12752
Views: 1247175

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

My point is that ALK paid a lot more than that when they bought the club and they offered over 5 times that amount not so long ago. That looks more like the price the shares were traded at when we were in the third tier. Yes, because buying shares to gain control is a lot different to buying a hand...
by aggi
Tue Apr 02, 2024 3:47 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 12752
Views: 1247175

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

I got a mail about this last week. 122478 shares at 300 quid each is less than 37m, has the value of the club slumped that much? Are they trying to pick up shares on the cheap? It's not a very dynamic website, I expected to see more than just an advertising page. Small shareholdings in a limited co...
by aggi
Tue Apr 02, 2024 2:55 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley FC Accounts 2022/23
Replies: 268
Views: 12029

Re: Burnley FC Accounts 2022/23

Goliath wrote:
Tue Apr 02, 2024 2:49 pm
The bigger picture is we are up **** creek if we don't go back up within 2 or 3 years.
That is true of any Championship club without owners who will subsidise them by tens of millions.