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ChorltonCharlie

Data analysis is only as good as whoever and however you interpret the data. Virtually everybody has the data these days. It's what you do with it that counts. This is true. Some teams have the data, but don’t use or ignore it (Man United spring to mind), some use it but don’t get it right, and oth...

ChorltonCharlie

I've pretty much given up going to York from East Lancashire even before the Kex Gill issues. Getting through Harrogate is a real pain. For anyone going north of York, the A59 closure isn't that big a deal. The obvious detour through Pateley Bridge is almost as quick and very scenic. For anyone who'...

ChorltonCharlie

That would be extremely harsh on Ekdal considering well, it wasn't really just on him (Vitty playing onside, Traff no mans land) and players have made mistakes far worse and continually been backed. Heck, Esteve (who I like but don't think should be thrusted in to the PL) has been done by long ball...

ChorltonCharlie

Mine would be more about other peoples opinions... Lack of experience/physicality as reasoning for the poor season. Contributory factors maybe, but far from the root cause which is a manager who can't get the best out of this group of players and has no idea how to set up as an underdog. Same for ef...

ChorltonCharlie

I'd agree with Spice on Cullen. I've been of the opinion all season that our problems are much more to do with tactics than individuals. Cullen for me was hung out to dry earlier in the season. The box midfield would seem to work well when you're in control of a game, but we didn't have that control...

ChorltonCharlie

Our style has been praised so far by most of the top teams, many of the middling teams have said we are in a false position, and virtually all managers say the league is now even more unforgiving. These things must all be true, even though we have made some big errors and are going down partly due ...

ChorltonCharlie

I don't think we did, like, hardly at all - Forest away was the closest and I thought we looked alright there. We did in lots of games. The fiascos against Spurs and Chelsea owed a lot to playing out from the back with 5 players quickly pushing into attack. Lose the ball and be wide open. The box m...

ChorltonCharlie

Different way of looking at this. We tried to play the same style as last season, but almost like we didn't account for the much improved opposition, especially considering the tough start. By the time we were playing beatable teams, confidence was shot and VK didn't know his best team. We effective...

ChorltonCharlie

It’s amazing what being abit more presentable does for you, Luton are very much like us when we came up with dyche but because dyche was the face of it, he never got the respect or recognition the way Edwards is. I don’t see Luton ever finishing top 10 never mind 7th Blatantly untrue this. Dyche go...

ChorltonCharlie

Did someone really say we've got a right to know because "we pay their wages"? Jesus wept. It's an odd concept to start with, it's not like we demand to know why Ivy on the check out isn't around because we buy a loaf of bread in the co-op once a week. In pure football terms it's ridiculous. The ave...

ChorltonCharlie

Frank Skinner talks really well about a lot of the phrases used and how he sits watching West Brom thinking wtf are the people around him talking about. I have no problem with that. I know a Burnley fan who couldn’t give a toss about any of it, and also couldn’t care less who we’ve been linked with ...

ChorltonCharlie

Amdouni is playing as a striker as part of a front 2. When it’s Foster or Fofana, they’re expected to run the channels more (down the right), with Amdouni given more of a free role in possession, but still on the left hand side. Out of possession they drop into a rigid 4-4-2 with both expected to dr...

ChorltonCharlie

We aren't staying up because we're awful. Few myths to bust... * We haven't been unlucky recently. We've taken 8 points from 8 games, but the xG in those games would suggest a return of more like 5 points. From the 6 before that we lost them all, but could have easily have had a return of 3 points. ...

ChorltonCharlie

"Last year was in general a success, with Churlinov and Bastien being the big question marks." Unless McNally, Egan-Riley and Twine were signed with the intention of loaning them out - they have to be counted as question marks too. Dervişoğlu had no impact. Added to Churlinov (injury) and Bastien, ...

ChorltonCharlie

I find it really odd reading threads like this. The two constants are lack of quality and lack of physicality. The latter is interesting as it depends what people really mean. Strength is a tough one to guage, though more experienced players tend to be better at using what weight/strength they do ha...

ChorltonCharlie

I can understand why people see Tresor as a needless signing, and he's clearly so far not delivered. But I also can't understand why anyone who claims to understand football would be writing him off. He's had no real run of games, and most of his appearances have been cameos from the bench. It's har...

ChorltonCharlie

Like most Burnley fans, I think the world of Benson. He's the kind of player you want to see in your team. He obviously played a key role in our promotion with vital goals. There's a but though. He's a player you use to make a difference against opposition that are backs against the wall. A lot of h...

ChorltonCharlie

There's a cracking Premier League table done by some football data scientists. They've taken the current points per team and then added/deducted how many points the fans of each team think they've been wronged/benefitted through referees/VAR based on on social media comments. It's work of genius. Th...

ChorltonCharlie

I despise VAR and think it’s ruining the game. But as much as I hate it, I can see how they’re changing it to try make it work. I read people like Dale Johnson who’s an apparent expert on refereeing and VAR and the directives they’re given. His review each week gives a neutral view on where VAR has ...

ChorltonCharlie

This whole thread does have the hallmarks of old men shouting at the sky. We're not doing well, so we can't just have it that our players/manager aren't good enough, or a bit of both. It has to be made personal by questioning attitude and leadership. Some footballers are lazy and have bad attitudes,...

ChorltonCharlie

This is my issue with your post, your thinking so small fry. There are only 22 clubs in English football with more premier league games than us. And over the last ten years we rank in the top 15 clubs in the country in terms of games played at this level. We have every right to be playing at this l...

ChorltonCharlie

I’d like to think I have reasonably balanced opinions in both good and bad. What doesn’t help forums like this is the binary nature of discussions. I’m very much on the fence when it comes to Kompany and have been since November when it was clear the season was turning into a disaster. That doesn’t ...

ChorltonCharlie

The new proposal includes relegation: Star league, Gold league and Blue league - and bottom clubs in Blue league are relegated to be replaced by other clubs from the top domestic leagues. Let's face it though, the idea is the top league is the best clubs from England, Spain, Italy and Germany. The ...

ChorltonCharlie

Is Amdouni playing as a second striker? Sometimes seems it's all jumpers for goalposts with some people. I'd say Amdouni is actually the more advanced forward, though with more of a free role to drift. Jay definitely seemed to be slightly deeper on Saturday, but expected to stay more central. It's n...

ChorltonCharlie

Agree with Spice about Amdouni and looking for space. I really like him, but I also think he's hiding. It's possibly a confidence thing. May even be attitude and not wanting to be in a relegation battle. Also have to question what we thought we were getting from him and how we're coaching him. As fo...

ChorltonCharlie

You say we aren't converting chances and had 14 shots yesterday, can you name me a decent chance we missed? Or a good save Pickford made? You say we've signed better players but a squad isn't built on just buying better players you've gotta have everybody pulling in the same direction, everybody ha...

ChorltonCharlie

Last I checked, goals were pretty important. And “average at best” players don’t score 9 goals from out of position in the Premier League. Take his contributions out of that season and we’d have beaten Derby’s record. Been so unlucky with injuries and would have been an important player for West Ha...

ChorltonCharlie

We've been about average for injuries all season. It's a convenient excuse for some. We currently have 6. Sheff, Utd, Bournemouth, Everton and Crystal Palace all have more. The only one of our rivals with less is Forest.

ChorltonCharlie

They were totally different players. Basically Cornets strengths were mcneil weaknesses and vice versa. The problem was both were at their best on the left hand side so we always had to sort of squeeze one of them in somewhere else. In hindsight we should have tried mcneil on the left of a midfield...

ChorltonCharlie

Unpopular opinion, but wouldn't interest me in the slightest. Always seems odd to say someone who scored goals like he did at Burnley is a luxury player, but if he wasn't popping up with a screamer, he was doing very little else. When he was scoring the screamers for us, I remember someone at the ti...

ChorltonCharlie

The irony in this being discussed on here, is there's plenty of people who'll agree with what Barton is saying whilst offering constant insight and analysis on this forum of what our manager and players are doing wrong despite never having got remotely near to the level they are operating at. Love t...

ChorltonCharlie

I'm pretty much on the fence when it comes to VK. Delighted with what he did last season and it was a breath of fresh air. We deservedly won the league, but the overall points total masked that we won a lot of points with individual brilliance. Anyone in football knows that's not sustainable unless ...

ChorltonCharlie

Fair to say that our lack of goals is reflected by the low xg. Which in general would suggest that saying it's not a simple question the standard of our strikers. The only reasonable conclusion on strikers would be to suggest that ours aren't getting into good positions to get chances. Even Foster h...

ChorltonCharlie

Can you guys not just move on? Seems to be an odd argument about a practice that was well known in some, but not all, supporters clubs. There have been changes in the Alan Pace era that has stopped it being an issue, but for many years a supporters club could buy x number of tickets for their fans a...

ChorltonCharlie

The discussion on support and atmosphere is surprisingly complex. I think that's why there's so much whataboutery around it. You have to consider the demographics for a start. There are personas for people who will support the team by being loud and vocal. I don't want to be to stereotypical, but yo...

ChorltonCharlie

There's people on here using the quality of Man United as some kind of barometer to judge the quality of our own performance. One person even suggesting they could be in a relegation battle. For balance Man Utd are in the Champions League because they finished in the top 4 of the league last season....

ChorltonCharlie

Jesus wept. if you're judging the affect of someone's mental health issues after they've suffered from child sexual abuse, it says far more about you than it does about the victim. What Paul Stewart suffered from as a child is a root cause of many of his issues as an adult. I wouldn't use the word '...

ChorltonCharlie

If the club has any sense they’ll work out the cut off for the people that attend on average all home games and 2/3’s of away games. That can be done on a game by game basis. Then just leave the rest to all ST holders. The whole point of these schemes is to make sure the people who go home and away ...

ChorltonCharlie

Bordeauxclaret wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 03, 2023 3:17 pm
Has this come from suggestions from the new advisory fan board?

I think it's been on the cards for years, but the new fan advisory board will have certainly been a big help in getting it over the line.

ChorltonCharlie

Couple of people with kids who haven't attended away games over recent years ^^^^. In the short term it's bad news, but if your kid(s) get the bug it's good news as they can go away and build up points and catch up. It's the same for returning fans, or even new fans. No secret that Burnley is a depr...

ChorltonCharlie

I currently have in excess of 13k points and think I’ve got about 2.5k over last 5 seasons. Leaves me wondering if that will be enough for first dibs but I do think it’s fair. Young people were never going to get a chance of catching up. My wife’s been coming on games with me for 10 years plus now ...

ChorltonCharlie

There's no reason the club can't use the 20 points retrospectively. It will be a simple algorithm that calculates peoples points.

ChorltonCharlie

Finally. Amazing it's taken so long for something so obvious and sensible. Most of our away games don't sell out, and at least not in the first window or two. So if you want tickets to the biggest away games, just go and start building up points. With this new system even if you're behind now, you'l...

ChorltonCharlie

The problem with supporters groups is they're much like local politics with some truly obnoxious people getting involved. Many of them driven by self-interest and not the interests of the wider fan base. We have some fans who really want to work with the club to make things better, but in my experie...

ChorltonCharlie

Isn't the price difference mainly because of the 10% off hospitality for the £250 option ? It appears to be exactly this. It's aimed at people who want to pay for hospitality several times a season I'd guess. With the idea being that if you're putting so much money into the club, you get the same r...

ChorltonCharlie

The bit about ‘deserving’ keeps coming up. I’d flip it the other way. I’m someone who ever since the system was created has always had the number of points for the initial sales phase, but I still think the system is bobbins. As someone who doesn’t do the majority of away games these days, I do thin...

ChorltonCharlie

Tony says he’d have written this article regardless. Where was the article all season? Every game has in effect been a ballot. Tony even references this with the Luton game. Usually demand hasn’t been an issue, but there’s many people with over 6,000 points who have had tickets by 10:15 on sale date...

ChorltonCharlie

The system in general is a joke. There's a tiny minority who have the most points who have had a ST for years and always go away. These people would get a ticket whatever loyalty system is used. There's then a load of people behind them who have had ST's for years and pick and choose their away game...

ChorltonCharlie

Why should there be differentiation? In general, I do agree with where you're coming from. The whole better class of fan argument does bug me. But I do think there has to be a way of looking after ST holders who travel to 80%+ of away games. I think with a simple solution like you propose, with a n...

ChorltonCharlie

The points system needs to be scrapped It doesn't really reward fan's for away game attendance does it with 10 points Children that can't abuse the system and don't have a older relative (wrongley) to borrow their loyalty points from will never catch up to the top tier of points Even if a child has...

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