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by summitclaret
Sun Feb 17, 2019 7:42 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Swansea in trouble: article
Replies: 122
Views: 3545

Re: Swansea in trouble: article

Intrigued by this when we haven't yet seen the 17/18 accounts, but let's play tv money will likely be less than £110m unless current form improves - Match Day Income will have a modest Increase - Europa League quali matches plus corporate ticket increases lets be generous and say £7m Commercial sho...
by summitclaret
Sun Feb 17, 2019 7:30 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Swansea in trouble: article
Replies: 122
Views: 3545

Re: Swansea in trouble: article

We spent around 30m less say net 6m for sam. So 24m. Given the extra income from finishing 7th, I would have thought an extra 25m for 2 more players would have been fine. Written off over say 4 years that's about an extra 6m a year before wages. However we are surely expecting a keeper to go in the ...
by summitclaret
Sun Feb 17, 2019 7:13 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Swansea in trouble: article
Replies: 122
Views: 3545

Re: Swansea in trouble: article

No it's not - we could have spent £100 million last summer in transfer fees and still been 3 points from relegation. Seems you would prefer the club to spend, spend, spend, eventually go down and be in a mess where as others prefer the sensible, cautious approach to ensure the club is sustainable i...
by summitclaret
Sun Feb 17, 2019 6:14 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Swansea in trouble: article
Replies: 122
Views: 3545

Re: Swansea in trouble: article

It seems to have been completely missed by some that because of the way we operate we are still more successful than the vast majority of clubs. Can't disagree with that up to last summer. In fact it's still correct because the way we have operated since last may is why we are 3 points from relegat...
by summitclaret
Sun Feb 17, 2019 6:07 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Swansea in trouble: article
Replies: 122
Views: 3545

Re: Swansea in trouble: article

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:Sure, I'll wait and find out from Roy.


Tell what you think first please.
by summitclaret
Sun Feb 17, 2019 5:38 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Swansea in trouble: article
Replies: 122
Views: 3545

Re: Swansea in trouble: article

O'Neill looked alright when he had a chance, shame he's tailed off. That is the whole point of the academy though and numerous people on here whinge that it isn't churning out its own "class of 92" yet despite it being only recently overhauled :roll: Name one person that has complained as...
by summitclaret
Sun Feb 17, 2019 5:35 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Swansea in trouble: article
Replies: 122
Views: 3545

Re: Swansea in trouble: article

Disgusting how our mercenary board suck the cash out of little Burnley FC... We should be throwing Gazillions at the team ...bugger spending money on a top class training facility and facilities for our disabled fans.... Lets go out and buy Messi and Ronaldo and pay 200k a week .... some on here ta...
by summitclaret
Sun Feb 17, 2019 5:20 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Swansea in trouble: article
Replies: 122
Views: 3545

Re: Swansea in trouble: article

The Sky money is paid in installments, over the course of a season. Our wages and outgoing transfer fees are also paid out over the course of a season. We won't have over £100 million in the bank. I know how accounts work thank you. Think you are in for a big surprise when our accounts for 18/19 co...
by summitclaret
Sun Feb 17, 2019 4:50 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Swansea in trouble: article
Replies: 122
Views: 3545

Re: Swansea in trouble: article

How can you describe the emergence of McNeil as extremely lucky? Surely that's why we have youth and development teams? Also if Wood or Barnes get injured then nothing changes in respect of the fact that these things can happen at any time. PS Crouch joined us if you missed it. Its great that McNei...
by summitclaret
Sun Feb 17, 2019 4:44 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Swansea in trouble: article
Replies: 122
Views: 3545

Re: Swansea in trouble: article

Not in anyway suggesting anything illegal. However, piling up money when a small part of it increases the odds of staying up and when we were in the EL is odd. If for example Directors were thinking of cashing in on their shares I coukd understand it a bit more.
by summitclaret
Sun Feb 17, 2019 4:09 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Swansea in trouble: article
Replies: 122
Views: 3545

Re: Swansea in trouble: article

That might be your reasoning but it is very definitely not mine. Doing more to stay up this season would have done just that, given us a better chance of staying up. It would not have secured any future. I can't believe that you can't see anything from what has happened at the likes of Swansea, Bol...
by summitclaret
Sun Feb 17, 2019 4:03 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Swansea in trouble: article
Replies: 122
Views: 3545

Re: Swansea in trouble: article

So we don't have any outgoings anymore? Excellent news, happy days everyone :roll: What are you talking about? Course we do. I might be a bit ott - we will see. It will be nearer 150m than 100m and if we do go down with that when we could have invested in 2 players within our wage structure it will...
by summitclaret
Sun Feb 17, 2019 3:56 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Swansea in trouble: article
Replies: 122
Views: 3545

Re: Swansea in trouble: article

At no point has this club ever had £150m in the bank (let alone annual turnover, or even adding together the sum of all our annual profit in all our history) and to be honest I cannot foresee a time in the next couple of decades when we will. Not checked but add up what we had in the last accounts....
by summitclaret
Sun Feb 17, 2019 3:52 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Swansea in trouble: article
Replies: 122
Views: 3545

Re: Swansea in trouble: article

Also you may be rignt about defour and brady, but well before the season started both were injured again. We were rumoured to be after both a winger and a cm but failed. One apparently failed a medical late in the window, but had be known to be injured for ages. So we apparently knew what was needed...
by summitclaret
Sun Feb 17, 2019 3:46 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Swansea in trouble: article
Replies: 122
Views: 3545

Re: Swansea in trouble: article

Not tried to speak for anyone else although someone else ( not you ) previously wrongly claimed I had.

The best way to secure our future would have been to do more to stay up this year than we did last august. It did not need much.
by summitclaret
Sun Feb 17, 2019 2:26 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Swansea in trouble: article
Replies: 122
Views: 3545

Re: Swansea in trouble: article

Not sure why you'd be embarrassed if the club gets relegated and ISN'T a financial mess like most clubs are when they go down. So can I take it you would be okay if we went down with around £ 150m in the bank plus 3 years's para payments, when we could have mitigated that by investing a small part ...
by summitclaret
Sun Feb 17, 2019 2:16 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Swansea in trouble: article
Replies: 122
Views: 3545

Re: Swansea in trouble: article

Right oh. Well last time Garlick was bragging HE made £30m. Forgot to mention that we only 2 fit central midfielders amd 3 anyway from January.
by summitclaret
Sun Feb 17, 2019 1:53 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Swansea in trouble: article
Replies: 122
Views: 3545

Re: Swansea in trouble: article

Well Spice we are not too far apart then now. A defour replacement is needed in the next window. Depending on whether brady can prove his fitness, McNeill may have mitigated the need for a new winger. We obviously need a new striker and we part of the money already now for that. Still think we will ...
by summitclaret
Sun Feb 17, 2019 1:36 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Swansea in trouble: article
Replies: 122
Views: 3545

Re: Swansea in trouble: article

I just want what is best for the team. Its about opinions. We don't agree. So what?. I think investing in creative midfielders last August was the right thing to do.
by summitclaret
Sun Feb 17, 2019 1:20 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Swansea in trouble: article
Replies: 122
Views: 3545

Re: Swansea in trouble: article

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:Why was it clear he needed replacing last summer?
He started the season fit didn't he?


You sure?
by summitclaret
Sun Feb 17, 2019 1:19 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Swansea in trouble: article
Replies: 122
Views: 3545

Re: Swansea in trouble: article

The most embarrassing relegation since the Premier League was formed could happen this season if Fulham go down. £100+ million on replacing the side that got them promoted and wages reportedly around 100k a week for those players. As someone posted above - throwing money at the wall promises nothin...
by summitclaret
Sun Feb 17, 2019 1:13 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Swansea in trouble: article
Replies: 122
Views: 3545

Re: Swansea in trouble: article

" Whatever we did or didn't do in the summer, we've got a midfield pool of 7 very established premier league performers, plus one starlet, for 4 berths. We can't really expect much more depth than that." But we haven't have we because at least 2 of those are hardly ever fit. It was and is ...
by summitclaret
Sun Feb 17, 2019 1:02 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Swansea in trouble: article
Replies: 122
Views: 3545

Re: Swansea in trouble: article

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:If we don't have an issue the rest of the season will you accept it was a good deal or not want to mention it again?


If we do and go down I promise to mention it for years like marneygate. Point is why take the risk?
by summitclaret
Sun Feb 17, 2019 11:43 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Swansea in trouble: article
Replies: 122
Views: 3545

Re: Swansea in trouble: article

I am not talking about the injury record of players when signing, rather what we knew or should have last summer. The glaring issues were the long term injuries to defour and brady our 2 most creative players. 12 points after 19 games from a team that performed as it did last season shocking and wor...
by summitclaret
Sun Feb 17, 2019 10:49 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Swansea in trouble: article
Replies: 122
Views: 3545

Re: Swansea in trouble: article

I'm sorry - this needs calling out because it just isn't true. We've got 8 players for the 4 slots across midfield. We've got 4 natural central midfielders (Cork, Westwood, Hendrick, Defour), plus 4 wide players (JBG, Brady, Lennon, McNeil). We've got a first team squad which is currently 25 strong...
by summitclaret
Sun Feb 17, 2019 10:07 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Swansea in trouble: article
Replies: 122
Views: 3545

Re: Swansea in trouble: article

Here we go again. What bit of down to the bare bones in midfield don't you lot get?

We are in the fight of our lives and can't even find a sub across all of midfield, mainly due to poor recruitment.

And people compare us to massive overspenders.
by summitclaret
Sat Feb 16, 2019 5:21 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Headfone Jack
Replies: 13
Views: 841

Re: Headfone Jack

A cow
by summitclaret
Sat Feb 16, 2019 11:30 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 1701
Views: 17826

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

AndyClaret wrote:And for a second time, who is going to put up a hard border ? it's not a trick question my friend.


Seabourne fencing?
by summitclaret
Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:28 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 1701
Views: 17826

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

You should be very happy with her as she had always done het best to thwart a real Brexit.
by summitclaret
Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:18 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 1701
Views: 17826

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

Rumours floating around that Umunna is resigning the whip. A few journos are hinting at an embargo until 8pm which means if he's doing this he ain't doing it so he can put his feet up and take a holiday. He might be middle ground in general which would normally be fine imo. However anyone that thin...
by summitclaret
Thu Feb 14, 2019 6:35 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 1701
Views: 17826

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

Government defeated because they still think that can trust the ERG. They want a No Deal Brexit and it is beyond comprehension that the majority of moderate Conservative MPs do not realise this and still think they can be negotiated with. It was a stupid pointless motion. Apart from the handful tha...
by summitclaret
Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:09 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Do we still attribute ‘Europe’ to our poor start to the season?
Replies: 86
Views: 2107

Re: Do we still attribute ‘Europe’ to our poor start to the season?

Can't understand why the players would prefer relegation and big wage reductions to a few games in the poxy EL.
by summitclaret
Tue Feb 12, 2019 7:57 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Do we still attribute ‘Europe’ to our poor start to the season?
Replies: 86
Views: 2107

Re: Do we still attribute ‘Europe’ to our poor start to the season?

No I think not having Tom Heaton in goal barking orders at our defence, also the inclusion of Dwight McNeil. Tom was out all of last season. I do think Pope's injury was significant. Brought back too soon from his holiday. We knew defour and brady were out and jbg had been in Russia also. How on ea...
by summitclaret
Tue Feb 12, 2019 7:22 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Do we still attribute ‘Europe’ to our poor start to the season?
Replies: 86
Views: 2107

Re: Do we still attribute ‘Europe’ to our poor start to the season?

It's as simple as we did not set out to take it seriously. I don't have a problem with that. I still have a problem with not strengthening wide and cm. But for McNeil we would probably be in a serious mess now. Did we really know how good he was or have we been very lucky?
by summitclaret
Tue Feb 12, 2019 10:16 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 1701
Views: 17826

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

Labour don't like the backstop either. The only mps that do are remainers that want to deny us leaving un any meaningful way
by summitclaret
Tue Feb 12, 2019 10:12 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 1701
Views: 17826

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

This is what I don’t understand about the Brexiteer position. On one hand they won’t support May’s deal because we’ll be trapped in the backstop forever, a backstop that is only activated if we haven’t agreed a trade deal by the end of 2020, then on the other hand argue deals can be wrapped up in a...
by summitclaret
Sun Feb 10, 2019 7:22 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: BHA messageboard
Replies: 73
Views: 8094

Re: BHA messageboard

Given Cardiff's upturn yesterday was massive in more ways than one.

I would say BHA are the most likely to finish 18th now.
by summitclaret
Sat Feb 09, 2019 8:22 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Barnes and Wood
Replies: 99
Views: 5387

Re: Barnes and Wood

First half they couldn't handle them.
by summitclaret
Sat Feb 09, 2019 8:21 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: McNeil (leading up to 2-0) ...
Replies: 19
Views: 1785

Re: McNeil (leading up to 2-0) ...

If Arsrnal don't come in for Tarks they are crazy
by summitclaret
Sat Feb 09, 2019 8:14 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Sussex by the sea versus MIGHTY CLARETS
Replies: 372
Views: 5540

Re: Sussex by the sea versus MIGHTY CLARETS

Westwood have been had been brilliant since Christmas but today was
panicking as was Corky. Wood and Barnes surberb.
by summitclaret
Sat Feb 09, 2019 7:52 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Sussex by the sea versus MIGHTY CLARETS
Replies: 372
Views: 5540

Re: Sussex by the sea versus MIGHTY CLARETS

Brilliant defending and front 2. Today was payback for the last 3 games at least.

This is despite cm being unable to pass properly for most of the game.

We need to sign Mooy and Cairney in May. Please.
by summitclaret
Sat Feb 09, 2019 4:49 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Sussex by the sea versus MIGHTY CLARETS
Replies: 372
Views: 5540

Re: Sussex by the sea versus MIGHTY CLARETS

Do you understand what pessimism is? Not a single poster made a comment on how well our starting eleven is doing and instead decided to look as the glass as half empty. Do you understand what risk management is? We went into the last window with defour, brady and jbg as sicknotes and Lennon out for...
by summitclaret
Sat Feb 09, 2019 4:45 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Sussex by the sea versus MIGHTY CLARETS
Replies: 372
Views: 5540

Re: Sussex by the sea versus MIGHTY CLARETS

Lowton only just back on grass. Suspect him and Long just making up the numbers today.
by summitclaret
Sat Feb 09, 2019 4:41 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Sussex by the sea versus MIGHTY CLARETS
Replies: 372
Views: 5540

Re: Sussex by the sea versus MIGHTY CLARETS

FactualFrank wrote:Love it how it's our strongest possible side at the moment, with how well Hendrick is playing, yet everybody goes straight to knocking the players we have on our bench and the transfer window.


No one is knocking any player. Do you understand comprehension?
by summitclaret
Sat Feb 09, 2019 4:38 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Sussex by the sea versus MIGHTY CLARETS
Replies: 372
Views: 5540

Re: Sussex by the sea versus MIGHTY CLARETS

Not a midfielder on the bench - wide or central. What a wonderful window. Well done BFC.
by summitclaret
Sat Feb 09, 2019 4:33 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Sussex by the sea versus MIGHTY CLARETS
Replies: 372
Views: 5540

Re: Sussex by the sea versus MIGHTY CLARETS

Oh dear
No jgb or brady in squad.
by summitclaret
Sat Feb 09, 2019 2:46 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 1701
Views: 17826

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

I still predict that the EU will be the first to blink and allow us a unilateral three year time limit on the backstop. This would give us (including the 21 months implementation phase) FIVE YEARS to complete trade deal negotiations. The backstop time limit would ensure we can't be trapped in the b...
by summitclaret
Fri Feb 08, 2019 3:12 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 1701
Views: 17826

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

I see there is creep in the argument about whether we would be better off. I was very clear that we would not be
better off initially and accepted that freedom has a price. I don't think i was on my own.

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