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by dsr
Fri Oct 18, 2019 11:56 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Asking for help - Burnley FC food & beverage prices for the season
Replies: 5
Views: 90

Re: Asking for help - Burnley FC food & beverage prices for the season

I'll guarantee that no club sells cheaper Benedictine.
by dsr
Fri Oct 18, 2019 10:48 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 18911
Views: 348159

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

There's the famous Murdoch quote (although unsurprisingly he now denies it): “I once asked Rupert Murdoch why he was so opposed to the European Union. “‘That’s easy,’ he replied. ‘When I go into Downing Street they do what I say; when I go to Brussels they take no notice.’ That's not a Murdoch quot...
by dsr
Fri Oct 18, 2019 9:13 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 18911
Views: 348159

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

I found your last sentence the most disturbing. We can sell to them at their standards, and lower our standards for products at home. That is what a Third World country does. Why do you only look on the bad side? I said that we can apply different standards. I know you love the EU, but it appears t...
by dsr
Thu Oct 17, 2019 11:50 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 18911
Views: 348159

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

Of course we can make them more stringent. So the point is that we can manufacture sub standard products for the uk market. Good result that. "Sub standard" only if you accept that the EU is the epitome of standards and every rule they have is the acme of rule making. I don't know if your...
by dsr
Thu Oct 17, 2019 11:18 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 18911
Views: 348159

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

I honestly try not to be insulting. Once again, if we want a free trade deal with the EU, it’ll be us conforming to their standards. The degree to which we lower our standards will result in reduced trade with them. Edit: and it’s not about what they sell to us, but what we sell to them. They won’t...
by dsr
Thu Oct 17, 2019 4:18 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Article about Colne Dynamos
Replies: 22
Views: 1342

Re: Article about Colne Dynamos

I always found it a bit strange as to why Colne Dynamos were shut down so easily by Graham White with little or no effort to keep it going. Costing a quarter of a million a year and no-one else would stump up that sort of cash. So I believe. Incidentally, the club was spelt "Dynamoes". Th...
by dsr
Thu Oct 17, 2019 2:07 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Article about Colne Dynamos
Replies: 22
Views: 1342

Re: Article about Colne Dynamos

Herts Clarets wrote:"The Football League? It may be a step too far for us at the moment," Haigh says.

Given that the side sit 16th in the 8th tier of English Football, I would say Mr Haigh is the master of the understatement.....

To be fair, if they win the 6 games in hand, they'll be top!
by dsr
Thu Oct 17, 2019 1:35 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 18911
Views: 348159

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

100% guarantee they vote for a GE after a "No Deal" is averted. Thats is their best chance of winning (no laughing at the back!) Maybe. I'd have thought their best chance was to wait until Brexit is over - if it ever is - because as it stands, virtually everyone who cares about Brexit wil...
by dsr
Thu Oct 17, 2019 1:33 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 18911
Views: 348159

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

I think its obvious to most people that parts of parliament would not vote in favour of any deal struck by the tories, so if the EU has to step in to get this mess sorted out, then I can only be a good thing. General election next and we can elect a parliament that will do what it is supposed to do...
by dsr
Thu Oct 17, 2019 1:30 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Extinction Rebellion
Replies: 68
Views: 1442

Re: Extinction Rebellion

It shows how thoroughly they want us to change our lifestyles, if they're opposed even to mass transport powered by electricity. You'd have thought the Tube was as ecologically sound as any transport we have in this country; if even that is to be shut down ... :shock:
by dsr
Thu Oct 17, 2019 11:57 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 18911
Views: 348159

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

This sums up the DUP problem "The issue for the DUP is that the Good Friday Agreement provides for a cross-community veto. Under the terms of the WA it's just a simple majority. That's the issue for the DUP." All this stuff about Ireland was (officially, at least) to comply with the GFA. ...
by dsr
Thu Oct 17, 2019 10:39 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 18911
Views: 348159

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

Lancasterclaret wrote:Does it show, in a very simple way, the real effects of the various deals that we could have?

Yes

No it doesn't. It shows a (pessimistic) prediction of what the effects might be, not what they are.
by dsr
Thu Oct 17, 2019 10:36 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 18911
Views: 348159

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

Again, you have to have alternative figures to counter balance it. You never have. You have exhortations, buzz words, claims that it will all end up alright. But nothing that counter balances the trade experts. Nothing. the difference between me and you is that I don't claim that I know about this ...
by dsr
Thu Oct 17, 2019 10:30 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 18911
Views: 348159

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

Whether you agree with the figures or not it’s a perfectly acceptable graph! Why does it say "GDP per capita"? Presumably it has made some sort of adjustment for an expected population change - what change is it expecting? Why do we have less sovereignty in the EEA than in the EU? Where a...
by dsr
Thu Oct 17, 2019 10:18 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 18911
Views: 348159

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

Of course it is! its a handwritten graph! But its a simple tool for showing reality. One of the problems people like you have is that you don't realise not everyone has your blind trust in figures (even when written on the back of an envelope by someone who doesn't understand graphs). A lot of peop...
by dsr
Thu Oct 17, 2019 9:48 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 18911
Views: 348159

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

A reminder of the economic effects of this EHEOY2cWwAA5R3e.jpg You don't think that's a bit of an oversimplification? Looks like whoever worked out those figures just saw that 8% of GDP was generated by exports to the EU, and assumed that those exports would instantly cease and not be replaced in &...
by dsr
Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:09 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 18911
Views: 348159

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

Again, what is in my post that indicates I clearly think the NI customs thing is a wonderful idea? Maybe try reading the words on the screen rather than what you want to be there to make a point. It was a post pointing out a 180 degree change in direction, nothing more. I could ask the same questio...
by dsr
Wed Oct 16, 2019 10:59 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 18911
Views: 348159

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

Where exactly in my post did I ‘hold a position’? I just pointed out the massive u-turn, that’s just a fact. By the way, they haven’t ‘seen it my way’. My way would be a softer Brexit, this is still a hard Brexit. It was just a very odd way of putting it. When two parties to any negotiation come to...
by dsr
Wed Oct 16, 2019 10:32 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 18911
Views: 348159

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

Just shows the complete u-turn the Tories (especially the ERG) have taken in just over a year. From making something against the law to thinking it’s a wonderful idea. It also shows how you will oppose the Tories no matter what they do and what they say; like Corbyn, you only have to see the Tories...
by dsr
Tue Oct 15, 2019 3:52 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 18911
Views: 348159

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

I'd say it's a pretty standard definition. If you have a clean break from something/someone you don't continue interacting with them. I think the version that is devoid of all common sense is the concept that we can suddenly disentangle ourselves from our biggest trade partner with minimal repercus...
by dsr
Tue Oct 15, 2019 12:37 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 18911
Views: 348159

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

I'm not sure where your 80% is coming from. Currently about 50% of our exports go to the EU. Obviously that would have to stop if we had a clean break (it wouldn't be much of a clean break if we were still trading with them) so we'd lose those 50% of exports. It may be that we could re-purpose our ...
by dsr
Mon Oct 14, 2019 4:27 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 18911
Views: 348159

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

And some thinly veiled threats of violence over Northern Ireland being aligned with the EU rather than the rest of the UK https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/brexit-loyalists-plan-action-if-boris-johnson-shafts-northern-ireland-38589092.html The whole point of the "special...
by dsr
Mon Oct 14, 2019 3:16 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Points From Next Four Games?
Replies: 31
Views: 1338

Re: Points From Next Four Games?

Sorry my mistake. When did we score a screamer to take the lead and lose 3-1 at home? Was it the first time we were back in the PL? First game back under Dyche? I think Arfield scored the goal. The home game with Chelsea in the Coyle/Laws season was a 1-2 defeat, Stephen Fletcher scored, in January.
by dsr
Mon Oct 14, 2019 1:35 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 18911
Views: 348159

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

Is there any reason why we must be members of the EU to sign this alleged deal? I don't see any reason why we couldn't leave on 31st October and sign it as a non-EU country in November. They could even agree a free trade transition period in the meantime.
by dsr
Mon Oct 14, 2019 1:02 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Things to do in or around the Lake District
Replies: 44
Views: 1333

Re: Things to do in or around the Lake District

If the weather's not great but you fancy a boat trip, the Windermere boats have big inside cabins with big picture windows. Bowness is a good place for a meander, as well.
by dsr
Sun Oct 13, 2019 6:21 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 18911
Views: 348159

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

Well its crunch time for the ERG as well. If BJ gets a deal along the lines ir appears to be then they need to be told its vote for it or you loose the whip. Also the ones already out need telling that you can get the whip back if you vote it, apart from Grieve who can rot in hell for me. Rory Stew...
by dsr
Sun Oct 13, 2019 4:25 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: NFL
Replies: 28
Views: 796

Re: NFL

So as there’s no football on I’ve resorted to watching the NFL from the Spurs stadium Now admittedly I don’t have a clue on the rules but its just taken 90mins to have 30mins of action :o How is anybody able to watch this? And in football it takes two hours to have about 50 minutes of action. Not s...
by dsr
Sun Oct 13, 2019 2:57 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: We are unique
Replies: 62
Views: 3627

Re: We are unique

I think it would be good for Dyche to try another club as although he has done a good job here it would prove if he can play in more than one way. He has spent the most money of any burnley manager but we don’t play very expansive football. We play some good stuff sometimes but it seems like the pl...
by dsr
Sat Oct 12, 2019 9:35 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 18911
Views: 348159

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

TheFamilyCat wrote:Fair enough; however, surely the "deal" option in a second referendum as you describe would have to be viable to get on the ballot paper.

I can't see any way in which Corbyn and the EU will negotiate anything sensible when they both know they both want it to be voted down.
by dsr
Sat Oct 12, 2019 9:19 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 18911
Views: 348159

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

Bit confused by your logic here. Why would remain win a second ref but leave win the third? The second referendum, according to many voices in the Labour party - Emily Thornberry being one of them on Euro election night - is going to be a fraud. Having spent years complaining "nobody voted for...
by dsr
Sat Oct 12, 2019 1:52 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: We are unique
Replies: 62
Views: 3627

Re: We are unique

Burnley are probably in their best position ever, ever. And some fans don`t realise that Sean Dyche has lots of reasons to like himself around here! Last Sunday, I asked myself the question "do I want Newcastle to lose to Man United because they are at the bottom of the league, or do I want th...
by dsr
Fri Oct 11, 2019 11:59 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 18911
Views: 348159

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

Lancasterclaret wrote:Can't wait for some made up figures that will claim that this deal is better than the one we have now.

It will be like 2016 all over again.

Not a single Brexiteer has tried to argue the economic case for this for about a year.

And no remainer has tried to argue the political case.
by dsr
Fri Oct 11, 2019 11:55 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 18911
Views: 348159

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

Financial Times Economic Editor on how Johnson’s proposals are much worse for the economy than the May deal https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1182595006382645249.html I would like to see a more reliable set of figures than this. This argument says that extra customs costs will cost 1.4% of GDP. GD...
by dsr
Fri Oct 11, 2019 1:28 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Stabbing(s) Manchester Arndale !!
Replies: 75
Views: 2827

Re: Stabbing(s) Manchester Arndale !!

Seems like an over-reaction to evacuate the whole Centre. Do the police suspect that there was more than one of him?
by dsr
Fri Oct 11, 2019 11:02 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: We are unique
Replies: 62
Views: 3627

Re: We are unique

BOYSIE31 wrote:But I prefer to watch football played on the grass.

And I prefer it played in the penalty area. Preferably the opposition penalty area, of course - but pretty passing in midfield and at the back is very easy to get bored with, unless done very well and as a means to get it into the penalty area.
by dsr
Thu Oct 10, 2019 11:27 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: VAR. - Offsides
Replies: 24
Views: 1371

Re: VAR. - Offsides

VAR is simple. The player is offside or he isn't. The degree to which he's offside or not, be it millimeteres or more, should make no difference. If it's visibly on or offside, the decision is clear. Two problems. One, TV pictures can't be sure to within 6 inches or so because they don't do 300 fra...
by dsr
Thu Oct 10, 2019 11:19 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: We are unique
Replies: 62
Views: 3627

Re: We are unique

"If I went to a different club with different skill sets, trust me I'd play a different way" SD must really like himself He could have brought in players with different skill sets here couldn't he ? Also, not the best comment for our players to read, given this could feel like a put down ...
by dsr
Thu Oct 10, 2019 11:15 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Air BnB
Replies: 27
Views: 1314

Re: Air BnB

I've just joined up and didn't need a passport or any other i.d., apart from a working credit card and had to pay half the fee up front. Though I do have until a fortnight before the time to cancel and get a full refund. That's in the USA. As has often been said on watchdog and similar programmes, n...
by dsr
Thu Oct 10, 2019 5:24 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 18911
Views: 348159

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

It wouldn't be the Brexit of your dreams, but we'd be out, and that's far better than this government has managed. Being out on May's terms would not be better than being in. If we are in, we can keep trying to get out. If we were on the EU/May terms, then we would de facto be as if we were in, and...
by dsr
Thu Oct 10, 2019 5:07 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Best place to buy a new back gate
Replies: 25
Views: 705

Re: Best place to buy a new back gate

tim_noone wrote:Yes.... Just nick next doors while they're out coat of quick drying paint... No one will ever know. :D Bobs not in this week.

(You might have to change your house number to the same as theirs and hope they don't notice.)
by dsr
Thu Oct 10, 2019 5:05 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: We are unique
Replies: 62
Views: 3627

Re: We are unique

There's a lot to be said, if you are a relatively poor club financially, in doing something different from the rest. If you try and sign players who can play the way everyone else plays, then you don't get the best ones. If you try and sign players who play a different way, you can get players like ...
by dsr
Thu Oct 10, 2019 5:01 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 18911
Views: 348159

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

And that is your problem right there. I explained reality to you. You didn't want to accept it. The EU cannot compromise on its founding freedoms, which is something you've refused to accept from Day One. This whole thread is basically Brexiteers - why can't we have our cake and eat it? Remainers -...
by dsr
Thu Oct 10, 2019 3:55 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 18911
Views: 348159

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

These sound like negotiating positions that would facilitate the easiest trade deal in history to me. To be fair, the Remain side was a lot more realistic about the EU's likelihood of being friendly and co-operative. Lancaster told us from an early stage that the EU wouldn't play ball, because to t...
by dsr
Thu Oct 10, 2019 3:53 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 18911
Views: 348159

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

Do you know who wrote those words? Do you know when those words were written? When you recall the context in which European integration was conceived (two destructive world wars), can those words make sense to you? Otherwise you're no different to those people who pluck a few words from the Koran a...
by dsr
Thu Oct 10, 2019 2:34 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 18911
Views: 348159

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

Yep, I don’t claim to have all the answers so there’d be no point. That's a lot of the problem. Too many people, not just people like yourself but also people in power, are saying that we don't have all the answers so it can't work. It doesn't occur to them that if they don't have the answers, ther...
by dsr
Thu Oct 10, 2019 2:30 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 18911
Views: 348159

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

Any system must pass the test of proving that there is nothing in the lorry that doesn't appear on the paperwork. This will always need a physical check somewhere. VAT physical checks and inspections have been getting less and less as the computerised paperwork and computer analysis increases. The ...
by dsr
Thu Oct 10, 2019 2:29 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 18911
Views: 348159

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

Is this new, have you got a link to it? The last article I read on the Norway/Sweden model was how it couldn't be used in Ireland because there were still plenty of border checks and all lorries have to go through the border post and can't use the smaller roads with just the cameras. I'm also not s...
by dsr
Thu Oct 10, 2019 1:38 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 18911
Views: 348159

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

Norway is also part of the Schengen area and allows freedom of movement between itself and the EU. It follows approximately 20% of EU laws. It is also part of the EEA which allows free movement of goods. By the estimation of many on here Norway must only be not in the EU ‘in name alone’. Comparing ...
by dsr
Thu Oct 10, 2019 1:25 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 18911
Views: 348159

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

On the other hand the EU and the UK are sick to death of the Brexit 'problem' and a free trade deal might be agreed surprisingly quickly. It won't, because the EU doesn't want it badly enough. The EU would like a free trade deal, but only if they get paid loads of money and if the deal is bound up ...
by dsr
Thu Oct 10, 2019 12:58 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Banning snacking on public transport
Replies: 24
Views: 597

Re: Banning snacking on public transport

Maybe people who have been told to reduce weight by their GP and don’t meet targets should pay a surcharge to the NHS. When you see someone who is obese buying and eating crap they need to take responsibility for that choice. Everybody dies, and most people die of something that needs extensive and...

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