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by dsr
Thu May 26, 2022 11:51 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Daily Mail
Replies: 74
Views: 3627

Re: Daily Mail

It starts off with the stupidest of questions - "Does Vincent Kompany know what he is getting into?" Does any journalist genuinely believe a manager doesn't do some research before taking a job?
by dsr
Thu May 26, 2022 11:47 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Watford release Gray.
Replies: 33
Views: 3823

Re: Watford release Gray.

Tricky Trevor wrote:
Thu May 26, 2022 10:58 pm
If we are going back so far so did Micky Phelan, Brian Laws and Lee Dixon.
And Tommy Lawton.
by dsr
Thu May 26, 2022 11:31 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Name the next manager
Replies: 2472
Views: 154860

Re: Name the next manager

The discussion has always been can he do it without the likes of Messi, Xavi etc. At present no he can't and he's currently the 2nd highest spending manager of all time, just behind Jose until this summer probably, and both are on 2 CL trophies, but 1 behind Zidane, Ancelotti and Paisley. And level...
by dsr
Thu May 26, 2022 11:29 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Name the next manager
Replies: 2472
Views: 154860

Re: Name the next manager

Not sure about that, they've battered Madrid/PSG in previous seasons, I thought they battered them over 2 legs this season too. I think Liverpool are the 2nd best side in the world, City's reserves almost beat them in the semi final at Wembley. Nope, you're wrong there. I've checked the two teams p...
by dsr
Thu May 26, 2022 4:10 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Moonlighting.....
Replies: 11
Views: 1383

Re: Moonlighting.....

They have been talking recently about policemen working from home.
by dsr
Thu May 26, 2022 4:07 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Alan….? Alan….? Are you there, Alan?
Replies: 282
Views: 11518

Re: Alan….? Alan….? Are you there, Alan?

Well, Sheff Utd are speculated to being bought for 110m, circa 40% less than what ALK are believed to have paid for us. If ALK put in, say 20m of their own funding, their funds would be worth 12m ish, assuming they could sell the club at a similar price to Sheff Utd - but in essence, their funds ar...
by dsr
Thu May 26, 2022 3:47 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Name the next manager
Replies: 2472
Views: 154860

Re: Name the next manager

If they're as quick to announce this arrival as they are to announce some of the departures, then we'd better wait and see who leads the team out on 30th July. ;)
by dsr
Thu May 26, 2022 3:45 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Alan….? Alan….? Are you there, Alan?
Replies: 282
Views: 11518

Re: Alan….? Alan….? Are you there, Alan?

You are assuming ALK and Pace want to completely destroy Burnley FC, completely and utterly ruin their reputations in the industry and never be able to continue with their ultimate goal of owning more clubs. As well as lose out on whatever funds they have put up themselves, which could be a fair wh...
by dsr
Thu May 26, 2022 3:40 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Alan….? Alan….? Are you there, Alan?
Replies: 282
Views: 11518

Re: Alan….? Alan….? Are you there, Alan?

The Daily Mail article linked earlier in this thread says that "ALK may be forced to use the assets of their American media and technology companies to secure another loan", so perhaps Burnley FC isn't their only asset. Possible. But as it stands, ALK has liabilities of at least £160m in respect of...
by dsr
Thu May 26, 2022 3:29 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Cornet linked to Spurs
Replies: 89
Views: 5866

Re: Cornet linked to Spurs

Rileybobs wrote:
Thu May 26, 2022 2:24 pm
I doubt very much that we'll be offered £25m for Nathan Collins this summer.
It seems unlikely, but then Arsenal paid £50m for Ben White. He wasn't so much more experienced than Collins.
by dsr
Thu May 26, 2022 3:21 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Alan….? Alan….? Are you there, Alan?
Replies: 282
Views: 11518

Re: Alan….? Alan….? Are you there, Alan?

Hi CP, I'm in no doubt that Alan Pace will only re-negotiate the term loan with MSD if it is in ALK's interest to do this. Any such re-negotiation, if it was done in ALK's interest would also be in BFC's interest. I mention this bit, as lawyers would say, for the avoidance of doubt. We shouldn't fo...
by dsr
Thu May 26, 2022 10:27 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Alan….? Alan….? Are you there, Alan?
Replies: 282
Views: 11518

Re: Alan….? Alan….? Are you there, Alan?

Pace will be working hard behind the scenes. Nobody seems to have confidence in him at all which is really unfair. Dyche had to go. Tick. Brought in Cornet. Tick Brought in Weghorst. Tick..ish Nearly got Orsic. Great effort but no cigar. Kompany as manager. Massive Tick. Kompany will attract good p...
by dsr
Wed May 25, 2022 12:50 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Name the next manager
Replies: 2472
Views: 154860

Re: Name the next manager

If Kompany signs, at least it will be easy to find a song for him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceQkB31bjo8

Any male voice choir singers present?
by dsr
Wed May 25, 2022 11:13 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Name the next manager
Replies: 2472
Views: 154860

Re: Name the next manager

1/7 on Sky at this stage (when we know, or assume, an appointment is imminent) sounds a done deal to me. Something surely must have shifted in the last 24 hours to reach that figure? Odds of 1/7 mean that the bookies have taken all the money on Kompany that they want to. As for why they don't want ...
by dsr
Wed May 25, 2022 10:26 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Name the next manager
Replies: 2472
Views: 154860

Re: Name the next manager

I think we are looking at more days than that DD But as he's a figment of someones imagination I'm more worried about me! Whether or not you believe he is the Son of God, is a matter for discussion. Though obviously not on here. But there's no reasonable doubt that he existed. you might as well arg...
by dsr
Tue May 24, 2022 4:17 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: BFC quiz
Replies: 21
Views: 719

Re: BFC quiz

Tall Paul wrote:
Tue May 24, 2022 10:44 am
It even says he left after nine and a half years in a later question
It was a long season. :?
by dsr
Tue May 24, 2022 3:24 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: England squad named for the NL games
Replies: 10
Views: 1256

Re: England squad named for the NL games

Is Southgate aware that Pope's first game next season is in July? ;)
by dsr
Tue May 24, 2022 3:15 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Name the next manager
Replies: 2472
Views: 154860

Re: Name the next manager

130m euros :lol: However, if he was to come we can expect money to be spent and a real go next season... They could have a real go next season. Borrow more money, get back into the PL, sell the club at a profit - the owners are happy. Borrow more money, fail to get back into the PL, club goes bust ...
by dsr
Tue May 24, 2022 3:11 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Money still owed to Garlick
Replies: 84
Views: 4437

Re: Money still owed to Garlick

While unlikely we’ll enter administration it is a possible route if all debts can’t be serviced on time. Let’s be honest the capital risk to ALK is relatively small. The vast majority of the risk is on Burnley Football Club. Something I don’t get about Garlick and co coming back, why would they? If...
by dsr
Tue May 24, 2022 2:14 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Money still owed to Garlick
Replies: 84
Views: 4437

Re: Money still owed to Garlick

The most bizarre decision was the repurchase of the fans shares. That was a needless use of cash, if we were hard up. Although the Dyche sacking and replacement with an inexperienced management team, is also questionable (in hindsight, of course, we could’ve been discussing a financial masterstroke...
by dsr
Tue May 24, 2022 2:12 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Money still owed to Garlick
Replies: 84
Views: 4437

Re: Money still owed to Garlick

Just to add, ALK have previously denied that and payments had been missed/rescheduled. The club’s chairman wrote on Twitter: “Off the back of some inaccurate reporting this morning I wanted to provide a response to reassure fans.” A statement from Pace and board members Mike Garlick and John Banasz...
by dsr
Tue May 24, 2022 2:10 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: What a difference 15 months makes !!!!
Replies: 23
Views: 1856

Re: What a difference 15 months makes !!!!

This is so true. How did we go from a steadily run club that did not take financial risks to this in such a short period of time? We have gone from a business model that was praised and admired to a state of financial ruin in break neck speed. I can only assume that the risk was taken to take the c...
by dsr
Tue May 24, 2022 12:21 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Mike Garlick
Replies: 569
Views: 23207

Re: Mike Garlick

You would expect the money but you wouldn’t be concerned where it came from. Perhaps it’s a weak analogy comparing the sale of a house/car to a business. Has anyone ever said he didn’t know where the money was coming from or how they anticipated reducing the debt? It has been suggested that the clu...
by dsr
Tue May 24, 2022 11:03 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Name the next manager
Replies: 2472
Views: 154860

Re: Name the next manager

Playing three at the back (even worse with Long central) against a lone striker and two wide men with pace ? As for the rest of the team, it was huff and puff in central mid and nobody clinical enough up front But, at least he realised it was wrong at HT and changed things - Dyche would have waited...
by dsr
Tue May 24, 2022 10:53 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Mike Garlick
Replies: 569
Views: 23207

Re: Mike Garlick

I've a car for sale.. Someone wants to pay cash... Is that OK, or do I need to know where that cash has come from? No, you just need to know the cash is there. If the buyer says that he would like to pay you £5,000 cash, do you say "that's good enough for me, here are the keys"? Or do you say "show...
by dsr
Tue May 24, 2022 10:44 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Strange points from Sunday.
Replies: 58
Views: 3796

Re: Strange points from Sunday.

The guy who got sent off did remind me of a guy who might have laid a bet on himself to get sent off (or his wife had!) He didn't just take his shirt off, he danced around for ages in his bra which they all wear these days to make sure the ref was in no doubt and then he almost immediately blatantl...
by dsr
Tue May 24, 2022 10:42 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Mike Garlick
Replies: 569
Views: 23207

Re: Mike Garlick

So there isn't any evidence How is this helping anyone mate? There is no evidence that he had other options, and there is no evidence that he didn't. There is no evidence that he looked for other options, there is no evidence that he didn't. All suggestions that he had no choice are unsupported by ...
by dsr
Tue May 24, 2022 10:38 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Mike Garlick
Replies: 569
Views: 23207

Re: Mike Garlick

Hi dsr, so, you are selling your house and you get an offer from someone who says they need to get a mortgage to be able to buy it. Are you going to turn them away? Or say that's great, let's get our solicitors to do the deal? The only person who needs to check where your buyer is getting the money...
by dsr
Tue May 24, 2022 10:33 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Mike Garlick
Replies: 569
Views: 23207

Re: Mike Garlick

Is there any evidence that this was possible? If there isn't, then its just wishful thinking, and its something that isn't going to help Is there any evidence that it wasn't? Here's another option for Garlick. Buy it back. Dyche is no longer an issue, so if Garlick really didn't want to sell for £1...
by dsr
Tue May 24, 2022 10:30 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Strange points from Sunday.
Replies: 58
Views: 3796

Re: Strange points from Sunday.

Thanks DSR. Seeing as you were timing things. How long was the stretchered off injury? How long was the VAR penalty decision? Did you happen to get these? No, I didn't time those. I only timed Cornet because he went down just on the start of injury time and I wanted to estimate how much extra injur...
by dsr
Tue May 24, 2022 10:24 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Alan….? Alan….? Are you there, Alan?
Replies: 282
Views: 11518

Re: Alan….? Alan….? Are you there, Alan?

Or could it have been to pay 12.5m off the 65m debt upon relegation? (Looking v likely at the time) It’s possible. My guess would be to pay off Dyche and his staff. That's very likely. But whatever the reason, it was because they needed the money now, not because they might need it in future. You d...
by dsr
Tue May 24, 2022 9:59 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Strange points from Sunday.
Replies: 58
Views: 3796

Re: Strange points from Sunday.

Not that it matters but can anyone throw any light on these? 1/. At the end of the first half, why was there only 3 mins added time? Their player being stretchered off took 5 mins. Then there was the VAR review for the penalty. He hadn't spotted it (which was as clear as day). Then the players appe...
by dsr
Tue May 24, 2022 9:57 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Mike Garlick
Replies: 569
Views: 23207

Re: Mike Garlick

Are we at the stage yet where everyone needs reminding of the reality of the sale and the interests of Mike Garlick in staying on? He wanted out, the only two people who wanted in where ALK and someone fronted by someone who had a very dodgy CV when it came to football clubs No billionaires (or eve...
by dsr
Tue May 24, 2022 9:51 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Alan….? Alan….? Are you there, Alan?
Replies: 282
Views: 11518

Re: Alan….? Alan….? Are you there, Alan?

It’s been discussed elsewhere but that bridging loan could have been good risk management, or it could have been cash flow issues, we don’t know. Sunderland’s wage bill to revenue in the Champ was still ridiculously high and they made two p*** poor appointments in Grayson / Coleman. It's cash flow ...
by dsr
Tue May 24, 2022 9:22 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Mike Garlick
Replies: 569
Views: 23207

Re: Mike Garlick

You wouldn’t give it a seconds thought. Really? If you were selling your house, you wouldn't expect to see the money before you hand over the keys? I absolutely promise you - if anyone had gone to Mike Garlick and said they wanted to buy the club and would pay £180m, he would ask where the money wa...
by dsr
Tue May 24, 2022 12:25 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Jack Cork
Replies: 76
Views: 5347

Re: Jack Cork

I disagree. Despite what the doom mongers say we will still be able to more than compete for players and Cork surrounded by fresh vibrant and youthful players may see him flourish. People have decided that all our players are leaving, we won’t bring in anybody decent and we are now in terminal decl...
by dsr
Tue May 24, 2022 12:17 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley v Hammers March 1963 video
Replies: 17
Views: 623

Re: Burnley v Hammers March 1963 video

How very much better the commentary is with only one person doing it.

And the referee makes Jon Moss look fit!
by dsr
Tue May 24, 2022 12:05 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Alan….? Alan….? Are you there, Alan?
Replies: 282
Views: 11518

Re: Alan….? Alan….? Are you there, Alan?

Absolutely this.... and it wouldn't matter one iota what was said, to some on here he will never be able to do anything worthy of any sort of praise. Usually it's the people who can't wait to jump all over other posters for singling out `scapegoats`. All a bit sad really... Tell you what, you list ...
by dsr
Tue May 24, 2022 12:01 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Mike Garlick
Replies: 569
Views: 23207

Re: Mike Garlick

boatshed bill wrote:
Mon May 23, 2022 11:14 pm
You suggested that I read your mind yesterday, now you are reading mine.
Sorry. It was a generic you, not you personally. I meant that no-one but a fool would sell their car or their house without finding out where the money was coming from.
by dsr
Mon May 23, 2022 11:12 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Mike Garlick
Replies: 569
Views: 23207

Re: Mike Garlick

of course, we will never know what happened between buyer and seller. But my understanding is that ALK borrowed the club's money to make the deal. ALK borrowed the money, but Garlick knew exactly what they were going to do before he agreed the deal. You wouldn't sell your house, or your car, withou...
by dsr
Mon May 23, 2022 8:40 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Lowton red card
Replies: 101
Views: 8383

Re: Lowton red card

nonayclaret wrote:
Mon May 23, 2022 5:30 pm
as a matter of general interest (or not, you may say), if Lowton transferred to another club (not for one minute saying he will) over the (short) summer break, would he have to still miss 2 matches with his new club?
Yes.
by dsr
Mon May 23, 2022 8:40 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Britain's Strictest Headmistress - ITV, Sunday 22nd May 10:15pm
Replies: 33
Views: 1788

Re: Britain's Strictest Headmistress - ITV, Sunday 22nd May 10:15pm

Rowls wrote:
Mon May 23, 2022 7:04 pm
The parting shot of the article states, "last night’s documentary didn’t do anything to reassure me that she’s interested in helping other teachers to thrive alongside her."
Shouldn't a school's job be to help the pupils to thrive, not the teachers?
by dsr
Mon May 23, 2022 4:15 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Lowton red card
Replies: 101
Views: 8383

Re: Lowton red card

If they declined the appeal then have they considered it a frivolous appeal which usually results in an additional game? If not then I’m wondering what the reason is for them not overturning it was I think a frivolous appeal is "any referee would have sent him off", whereas a non-frivolous one is "...
by dsr
Mon May 23, 2022 12:50 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Leeds and Burnley v Everton
Replies: 85
Views: 6818

Re: Leeds and Burnley v Everton

One point made somewhere (might be in that Daily Telegraph accont which I haven't re-read) was that Everton claim to have worked very closely with the PL to ensure their figures were OK. Which begs the question, how can the regulators be true regulators if they have worked with the people they are s...
by dsr
Mon May 23, 2022 12:47 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Alan Pace
Replies: 292
Views: 11157

Re: Alan Pace

I just live in the real world. The fans demanded that we take more risks, and spend more money. So we have done by selling our soul. What we have now is that risk playing out. Those fans demanding more risk and spending money had it in mind that we spend the money on players and wages. What we actu...
by dsr
Mon May 23, 2022 10:25 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: What about the money ALK owes to Garlick?
Replies: 0
Views: 272

What about the money ALK owes to Garlick?

When ALK bought the shares from Garlick, John B, and others, we were told that there was £50m still owing and if it wasn't paid, the shares revert to Garlick and the rest. Since then we heard rumours that the payment had been deferred. So what happens now? Does ALK pay the money, and if so, is that ...
by dsr
Mon May 23, 2022 9:58 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Alan Pace
Replies: 292
Views: 11157

Re: Alan Pace

Garlick didn't force Pace to make a leveraged takeover offer. Pace wanted in but didn't have the money to buy in. A lot of fans wanted Garlick out. Garlick wanted out. Dyche probably wanted Garlick out. Yes it's on Garlick for agreeing to the first offer that came along regardless of how it hit the...
by dsr
Mon May 23, 2022 9:53 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Sh*t or Bust
Replies: 14
Views: 992

Re: Sh*t or Bust

Introducing three well regarded young players to fill bench spots I do not see as a gamble. I said this on another thread, but I would expect, and hope, for a team something like (with signings of Lawrence, Swift, Wallace on free transfers as a starting point): ---------------------Hennessey --Robe...
by dsr
Mon May 23, 2022 9:51 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Sh*t or Bust
Replies: 14
Views: 992

Re: Sh*t or Bust

He has already gambled and lost, he cannot chase his losses like an addict in Vegas. We need to get back to being sustainable. Pay the debt off with the sales of Pope, Cornet and whatever else we get interest in, alongside a portion of the parachute payments. Use what we have left to sign the excep...
by dsr
Mon May 23, 2022 9:47 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Alan Pace
Replies: 292
Views: 11157

Re: Alan Pace

We don’t know yet what approach they will take . They will know that with parachute payments you statistically have a better chance (33%) of promotion. My hunch is that they will want an immediate return, won’t be overly aggressive but will try to be push for it in this first season or two. And yes...