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by dsr
Mon Mar 18, 2024 2:48 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Stockport County
Replies: 56
Views: 4527

Re: Stockport County

Can see edit, we played them the following season and relieved them of Ian Helliwell. Think their fortunes changed that season when palmer was manager and they were down by March. Actually I've just checked the league tables, and was amazed to find that after winning at Wembley in 1994, we obviousl...
by dsr
Mon Mar 18, 2024 2:40 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Stockport County
Replies: 56
Views: 4527

Re: Stockport County

Carlos the Great wrote:
Mon Mar 18, 2024 2:22 pm
And I was there at Wembley when we beat Stockport in the play off final ..both teams fortunes changed that day
I'm not sure Stockport's fortunes changed that day. Didn't they get promoted the following season?

[Edit] No, it was three seasons later. But the slump came well after Wembley.
by dsr
Mon Mar 18, 2024 1:29 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Arijanet Muric
Replies: 334
Views: 8978

Re: Arijanet Muric

I think scraped a win is very harsh on us. Their penalty shout is irrelevant since they scored immediately after anyway and to say you wouldn't have known we were against 10 men for the majority is beyond me. We dominated the vast majority of the game and only came under pressure at the end when th...
by dsr
Mon Mar 18, 2024 11:53 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Yellow Cards
Replies: 24
Views: 1007

Re: Yellow Cards

It was banned because players were taking their shirts off to show political and other slogans. Instead of getting excited about whether or not it should be banned, why not explain to the managers what the rules are, and let them give their players detailed instruction in how not to take their shirt...
by dsr
Mon Mar 18, 2024 9:29 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: The pitchside screen
Replies: 51
Views: 2869

Re: The pitchside screen

What is the contingency for the technology not working and how the ref not having access to the images? Does the decision fall to the VAR official? Good question. Is the ref allowed to give a penalty on the say-so of the VAR man, if he hasn't seen the pictures? He could have done when it started - ...
by dsr
Mon Mar 18, 2024 1:06 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Controversial comment
Replies: 57
Views: 3891

Re: Controversial comment

I'm sorry you might need to refresh my memory because I don't recall saying that muric made us a much better side I said his impact was marginally better a slight incremental improvement. Yes if any of the 3 sides mentioned are reduced to 10 men it's possible to compare against 11 that's different ...
by dsr
Mon Mar 18, 2024 12:07 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Controversial comment
Replies: 57
Views: 3891

Re: Controversial comment

I'm more referring to incidents resulting in goals being conceded. It's pretty much acknowledged now that muric is the better keeper overall so it's not unreasonable to suggest had he started earlier our points tally would be slightly higher. Yesterday was no coincidence our fortunes changed for th...
by dsr
Sun Mar 17, 2024 11:53 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Arijanet Muric
Replies: 334
Views: 8978

Re: Arijanet Muric

I've missed what you're on about, but if that's that's your only considered response I'll add you my "div, niff noff" list if you like 😉 He's called James Trafford, not John. As for the rest, I'm not convinced that passing gets harder when the opposition are a man short. After all, if they do bring...
by dsr
Sun Mar 17, 2024 4:32 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Today’s football 17/3
Replies: 178
Views: 2346

Re: Today’s football 17/3

He’s impeded an opponent with contact. There’s no mention in Rule 13 of the need for “intent”. A direct free kick is awarded if a player commits any of the following offences against an opponent in a manner considered by the referee to be careless, reckless or using excessive force: It's clear that...
by dsr
Sun Mar 17, 2024 4:27 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Today’s football 17/3
Replies: 178
Views: 2346

Re: Today’s football 17/3

so a guy can be back peddling, inadvertently knock into someone inside the box and a penalty be awarded and no red is given but outside the box it's a red card - that's the issue I have, it's ridiculous. It should be the same punishment regardless of where it is on the pitch and to send someone off...
by dsr
Sun Mar 17, 2024 10:27 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Arijanet Muric
Replies: 334
Views: 8978

Re: Arijanet Muric

Does anyone remember that pinged cross out to Charlie on the touchline that was clear half the length of the pitch? Can any other keeper in the league pass like that? Yes. Against Bournemouth in the first half, Trafford played three passes like that to the right wing, before Bournemouth tightened t...
by dsr
Sun Mar 17, 2024 9:36 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Arijanet Muric
Replies: 334
Views: 8978

Re: Arijanet Muric

There is no way Muric would have come off his line in such a timid way like Trafford did in the dying minutes against Luton … I get it .. Trafford was fouled when you look at it but he gave the referee a decision to make .. Muric would have took the ball and the Luton player clean out if need be .....
by dsr
Sun Mar 17, 2024 9:32 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Controversial comment
Replies: 57
Views: 3891

Re: Controversial comment

It is but what happens in the future you can look back at the past. I guess it's all down him learning but something is seriously wrong but someone is earning thousands per week & can't see basic things & keeps on repeating the same mistakes. I'm not quite sure just how many clangers trafford had t...
by dsr
Sun Mar 17, 2024 12:14 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Lee Dixon.
Replies: 26
Views: 3336

Re: Lee Dixon.

I use Lee Dixon commentaries to help me nod off when I have trouble sleeping. I wish they would bring him back, then. A commentator understated enough to sleep through? I wish. Most of them make sure their mike is set far louder than the crowd mikes, and I expect they would have the camera on them ...
by dsr
Sun Mar 17, 2024 12:10 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Motd
Replies: 76
Views: 4201

Re: Motd

Should Brentford have had a penalty as their manager insisted and former Brighton centre forward Murray said it was a clear penalty to him The reason I wouldn't give it (apart from obvious bias) is that their man had hold of Fofana until the moment the kick was taken, and he had hold of Fofana as h...
by dsr
Sat Mar 16, 2024 11:54 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: The pitchside screen
Replies: 51
Views: 2869

Re: The pitchside screen

Just to clarify. 1. The VAR official looked at the foul and decided it was a penalty, and was so confident that he advised the ref to stop play. 2. The ref then went to the screen to have a look for himself, as is normal. 3. The VAR man looked at the offside, which took a long time. The ref isn't in...
by dsr
Sat Mar 16, 2024 11:50 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Arijanet Muric
Replies: 334
Views: 8978

Re: Arijanet Muric

Brugge Claret wrote:
Sat Mar 16, 2024 11:30 pm
Time mummy tucked you up in bed,just been reliving it on MOTD ,pundits all praising Muric
You''re wrong actually. Using pathetic insults doesn't make your point seem more valid or mature - quite the reverse.
by dsr
Sat Mar 16, 2024 11:48 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Arijanet Muric
Replies: 334
Views: 8978

Re: Arijanet Muric

I’m amazed how people can’t see how much better the team is with Muric in goal … Forget super saves .. the confidence it brings the defence to know he is there and his distribution is miles better .. Muric looks like a premier league keeper and Trafford looks like a young keeper learning his trade ...
by dsr
Sat Mar 16, 2024 11:40 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Controversial comment
Replies: 57
Views: 3891

Re: Controversial comment

I know it's completely & utterly wrong to question when we are almost dead & buried why we've suddenly reinstalled a goalkeeper who's been instrumental in gaining us 3 precious points & thinking could have things been so much different had he started the season & on today's showing that's a yes far...
by dsr
Sat Mar 16, 2024 7:50 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Arijanet Muric
Replies: 334
Views: 8978

Re: Arijanet Muric

The team looked night and day better against 10 men of Brentford than they did against 11 men of Arsenal. Whether that is totally down to Muric, or whether other factors are involved, is open to debate. ;) Muric played well today, but I am far from convinced that playing like we did today would have...
by dsr
Sat Mar 16, 2024 7:31 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Now I Don't Know The First Thing About Football..
Replies: 13
Views: 868

Re: Now I Don't Know The First Thing About Football..

It has never been a back pass if you use your knee, except under the Brian Laws amendment. Laws was playing for Forest in pre-season, I believe, and he had the ball at his feet and knelt down and "kneed" it to the keeper. They changed the law to make it illegal to artificially subvent the knee rule,...
by dsr
Fri Mar 15, 2024 1:06 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Reading FC x Wycombe Vultures debacle...
Replies: 35
Views: 1667

Re: Reading FC x Wycombe Vultures debacle...

Wycombe, or their owner, are paying £22 million apparently for Readings training ground Let’s see where that money ends up As for Reading, they’re just a lesser/another version of Rovers or Bolton, having lived beyond their means for decades and can’t do without someone else’s money Where do Wycomb...
by dsr
Thu Mar 14, 2024 11:55 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Season tickets next season
Replies: 340
Views: 22476

Re: Season tickets next season

I do accept it's possible we're getting somewhat het up on here rather prematurely without actually knowing the facts regarding pricing etc, but let's be honest, history tells us that "early bird" pricing is regularly out there by now and this year it's not, which seems a bit odd. Plus how early is...
by dsr
Thu Mar 14, 2024 11:49 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: James Trafford's Contract
Replies: 168
Views: 9014

Re: James Trafford's Contract

Lets face it, the best thing that can happen in this situation is Trafford gets sold over the summer. Sell at a loss, needs must. Then we get a keeper back next season that can pass the ball in a team that tries to pass the ball and so endeth this stupid and endless debate By that reckoning, we can...
by dsr
Wed Mar 13, 2024 11:00 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Harnessing AI to Improve our Performances
Replies: 18
Views: 752

Re: Harnessing AI to Improve our Performances

If anyone came to me with ideas to improve the club and had the first line "Burnley is known for its defensive solidity", I would ignore every other word they said.
by dsr
Wed Mar 13, 2024 5:59 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: James Trafford's Contract
Replies: 168
Views: 9014

Re: James Trafford's Contract

Superjohnnyfrancis wrote:
Wed Mar 13, 2024 5:39 pm
What’s our record Tony for goals conceded at this level ? We must be close already.
We let in 103 in 1928-29. I don't know if that's the record, but it isn't particularly close.
by dsr
Mon Mar 11, 2024 4:24 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Season tickets next season
Replies: 340
Views: 22476

Re: Season tickets next season

Is there no legal requirement to give those on direct debit a certain amount of time to decide what they're doing or cancel? Probably not in this case because each season is a new contract. They can legally, although ti would be stupid commercially, to declare the window for renewing lasts 5 minute...
by dsr
Mon Mar 11, 2024 1:45 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: James Trafford's Contract
Replies: 168
Views: 9014

Re: James Trafford's Contract

I wonder how much we’ve made on him to date and if there’ll be a host of clubs after his signature in the Summer. Other people have a much higher opinion of him than people on here. Remember the Bournemouth manager changed their game plan because of Trafford's ability to hold the ball. Not everyone...
by dsr
Mon Mar 11, 2024 1:44 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: James Trafford's Contract
Replies: 168
Views: 9014

Re: James Trafford's Contract

The truth is nobody really knows (apart from a handful of people) on a 100% sure basis if his contract states that he must start. There's been other examples but usually it's just appearances based. On the face of it nobody wants to explore the possibility (or believe) that our managers made a mist...
by dsr
Mon Mar 11, 2024 1:37 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: James Trafford's Contract
Replies: 168
Views: 9014

Re: James Trafford's Contract

I've read that Harry Kewell had a clause in his Liverpool contract that he would start in all major finals and, perhaps surprisingly, started the 2005 Champions League final. He was subbed early in the 1st half. He started the 2006 FA Cup Final and was subbed early in the 2nd half. Both of these ap...
by dsr
Mon Mar 11, 2024 9:29 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: James Trafford's Contract
Replies: 168
Views: 9014

Re: James Trafford's Contract

Of course you cannot literally physically force somebody/anybody to do things they don't want to do but the methods of enforcement aren't so extreme. When that usually happens the player wants to go somewhere else & is agitating for a move but if the club stand firm no other club can legally sign t...
by dsr
Sun Mar 10, 2024 9:13 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: James Trafford's Contract
Replies: 168
Views: 9014

Re: James Trafford's Contract

He's under employment he's contracted. If what you are saying is correct no need would exist for all the clauses & contract conditions that exist. Totally the opposite. It's because contracts for personal services can't be enforced that the clubs want exit clauses for when their employee refuses to...
by dsr
Sun Mar 10, 2024 10:16 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: James Trafford's Contract
Replies: 168
Views: 9014

Re: James Trafford's Contract

Why wouldn't it be enforceable? If that condition was agreed to prior to him signing it's perfectly enforceable & if he doesn't get selected to start the terms of the contract are breached. It probably wouldn't be enforceable because contracts for personal services can't be enforced. I think it wil...
by dsr
Sun Mar 10, 2024 1:32 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: James Trafford's Contract
Replies: 168
Views: 9014

Re: James Trafford's Contract

I occasionally read on here that Trafford has a clause in his contract that he must be selected to play except for injury Is this correct? He is a signed player not a loan. Is he , or his previous club able to enforce such a contract condition? (apologies if this is a repeat query. My computer skil...
by dsr
Sat Mar 09, 2024 11:07 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Your Matchday Cost 2020's Edition
Replies: 56
Views: 2143

Re: Your Matchday Cost 2020's Edition

Cost of ticket = £nil (paid for by share sale, club credit, but last year of that - though as we're in the corporate section, next year will be an interesting decision. If we fluke our way to stay in the PL, it will be nil again next year!) Pint of lemon and lime = £2.55 or £2.80 depending who is wo...
by dsr
Tue Mar 05, 2024 11:19 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: The Premier League's worst bottom two
Replies: 26
Views: 2099

Re: The Premier League's worst bottom two

I've just been trawling through to see what the lowest number of points has been from the bottom two in the Premier League in a season and found these two. 2004/05 - 45 points - West Brom (30) and Sunderland (15) 2021/22 - 45 points - Watford (23) and Norwich (22) I was wondering whether that might...
by dsr
Mon Mar 04, 2024 1:36 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: What must Vigeroux be thinking ??
Replies: 21
Views: 2154

Re: What must Vigeroux be thinking ??

JR1882 wrote:
Mon Mar 04, 2024 12:47 pm
Can’t imagine GK training is much fun for the 3 of them when the elephant in the room knows he isn’t going to play.
Is the elephant better at kicking than the other three goalkeepers? I can see that he might fill the goal well.
by dsr
Mon Mar 04, 2024 11:25 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: RATE THE REF - David Coote v Bournemouth
Replies: 53
Views: 2231

Re: RATE THE REF - David Coote v Bournemouth

Agree with most of this. I think there is a subconscious bias that means referees shy away from making certain calls - big club equates to hassle, Luton/Brighton/Bournemouth have favourable media narratives. In the EPL, it really is quite pronounced against us. My gut feeling is that the Kompany fa...
by dsr
Mon Mar 04, 2024 11:21 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: TRAFFORD (AGAIN)
Replies: 721
Views: 26647

Re: TRAFFORD (AGAIN)

If I said Sheff Utd or Luton need a keeper that saves the first shot on target to keep them in games. Would you understand the point better, Without needing to defend the keeper? I understand why we need a goalkeeper who saves every shot, not just the first. But just as importantly, we need a man w...
by dsr
Mon Mar 04, 2024 10:49 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: TRAFFORD (AGAIN)
Replies: 721
Views: 26647

Re: TRAFFORD (AGAIN)

I think most Premier league keepers save that shot yesterday. Anything within reach from a standing position should be saved. Trafford gambled left, instead of watching and relying on reflex. It's not a major error but don't make out no other keeper saves it. Give over. Rely on reflexes? If keepers...
by dsr
Mon Mar 04, 2024 10:20 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: TRAFFORD (AGAIN)
Replies: 721
Views: 26647

Re: TRAFFORD (AGAIN)

I'm trying not to personalise it with him and just state what we need from a GK. The game is over for us in the prem if we concede first. If their first shot is a full blooded volley from the edge of the goal area, then it's irrelevant who the goalkeeper is. Look at the defenders who let him get th...
by dsr
Mon Mar 04, 2024 10:08 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Time Wasting
Replies: 9
Views: 910

Re: Time Wasting

I agree Boss, but the added time wouldn’t have been for those instances A team could kick off and playing back to the keeper who could stand there for 45 mins and there would be no added time Granted it wouldn’t be very interesting to watch, but probably more enjoyable than what we have seen this s...
by dsr
Mon Mar 04, 2024 10:06 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: TRAFFORD (AGAIN)
Replies: 721
Views: 26647

Re: TRAFFORD (AGAIN)

The bottom line is, we can't afford a GK who regularly lets his first shot on target in. Yesterday, Arsenal, Liverpool, Everton, City to name a few. We need far better. If you're criticising Trafford because he let in a goal volleyed from the edge of the six yard box, then you've left reasonable cr...
by dsr
Mon Mar 04, 2024 10:05 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: TRAFFORD (AGAIN)
Replies: 721
Views: 26647

Re: TRAFFORD (AGAIN)

Ric_C wrote:
Mon Mar 04, 2024 8:47 am
Look at Onana yesterday, not the best GK but he pinged the ball the length of the pitch to setup Rashford's goal. Muric has that in his armoury, Trafford doesn't
Trafford played at least 3 long, accurate balls to the right wing yesterday.
by dsr
Mon Mar 04, 2024 12:44 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: RATE THE REF - David Coote v Bournemouth
Replies: 53
Views: 2231

Re: RATE THE REF - David Coote v Bournemouth

17 3 15 17 I didn't think he was anywhere near as bad as other people do. Semenyo's foul for the non-booking wasn't much. He and Taylor were running shoulder to shoulder and Taylor had little or no interest in staying on his feet. Where he scored quite well was that he didn't give so many trivial no...
by dsr
Mon Mar 04, 2024 12:33 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: TRAFFORD (AGAIN)
Replies: 721
Views: 26647

Re: TRAFFORD (AGAIN)

Check the Total and Percent columns, not long balls. Verbruggen is deployed way less but his accuracy is way, way above Trafford's. His worst is better than all but 3 of Trafford's, his 2nd worst is better than all of Trafford's. He's a more accurate passer. Which is what makes the reliance on Traf...
by dsr
Mon Mar 04, 2024 12:17 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Muric - Surely has to start on Sunday ?
Replies: 180
Views: 6608

Re: Muric - Surely has to start on Sunday ?

Firthy wrote:
Sun Mar 03, 2024 12:08 pm
I seriously wonder if there's something in Traffords contract that he has to start every Premier game if fit. I can't think of any other reason why Muric isn't getting a chance after the mistakes Trafford has made.
You can stop wondering. There isn't.
by dsr
Mon Mar 04, 2024 12:11 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: TRAFFORD (AGAIN)
Replies: 721
Views: 26647

Re: TRAFFORD (AGAIN)

I’m not a regular contributor on UTC but I always really enjoy reading comments and seeing what other fans are thinking on the current status of the team. Since day dot I’ve been perplexed by the Trafford situation and felt the casting aside of Muric was rank man management. For my money, it should...
by dsr
Mon Mar 04, 2024 12:00 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Squad for next season, STAY OR GO
Replies: 53
Views: 3113

Re: Squad for next season, STAY OR GO

GK: Trafford and Muric STAY - Peacock-Farrell GO, Vigeroux - I know nothing about him except that he's a goalkeeper. Full back: Vitinho, Taylor STAY - Roberts, Assignon GO Central defenders: Beyer, Ekdal, Al Dakhil, O'Shea STAY - Delcroix, Egan Riley GO (isn't he a full back?) - esteve, McNally DON'...
by dsr
Sun Mar 03, 2024 11:50 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Amdouni
Replies: 142
Views: 7673

Re: Amdouni

Foster has been a huge, huge miss. Fofana gash today and if he carries on like that there’ll be a good case for bringing Amdouni in to replace him because he’s not done any worse than that. I thought Amdouni showed a bit more effort in his sub appearance than we have been used to, which is a good t...