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by jlup1980
Thu Jan 03, 2019 12:04 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: 6 wins from 17 games
Replies: 25
Views: 2487

Re: 6 wins from 17 games

One game at a time. The Fulham game takes on as much meaning as last night now. It's a huge game for us. Let's try and build momentum and see where it takes us. We're in a better position now than anyone dared to dream we'd be in before the West Ham match. I didn't see 2 wins happening at all. Finge...
by jlup1980
Wed Jan 02, 2019 12:50 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Gabbiadini available from Southampton
Replies: 16
Views: 2436

Gabbiadini available from Southampton

Not saying we should sign him, just think it's interesting that he's been made available, especially given the facts that Ings / Austin are injury prone and Shane Long couldn't hit a cows arse with a banjo. He looked like a masterstroke of a signing when he first arrived but he's been quite poor sin...
by jlup1980
Wed Jan 02, 2019 12:44 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Tammy Abraham
Replies: 82
Views: 8148

Re: Tammy Abraham

Chelsea have accepted Wolves' £18,000,000 bid for Tammy Abrahams. £18m seems a lot on paper but in theory he should only go from strength to strength. He struggled in a poor Swansea team last season but his combined record for Bristol City and Aston Villa is very impressive for a lad of his age; 42...
by jlup1980
Wed Jan 02, 2019 10:51 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Maupay
Replies: 53
Views: 6453

Re: Maupay

Apparently in the crowd at the match tonight. Wonder if it’s to watch burnley or Huddersfield. Just the kind of striker we are looking for if it is to watch burnley. I've been saying for a while we should go for this lad and Watkins from Brentford. It makes even more sense if Huddersfield want him....
by jlup1980
Wed Jan 02, 2019 9:49 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Ex-Claret Ginnelly is early mover in the window
Replies: 13
Views: 1655

Re: ARTICLE: Ex-Claret Ginnelly is early mover in the window

I was surprised we let him leave on a free to be honest. Always seemed to do OK on loan. Would have made sense to give him another 2 years and send him back out on loan until someone offered us cash for him. Mind you, 100k for him is small fry vs PL money these days!!
by jlup1980
Mon Dec 31, 2018 11:56 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: solskjaer
Replies: 42
Views: 2866

Re: solskjaer

Steve1956 wrote:He's a horrible little man is that Hughes,don't think he'll ever get another job,here's hoping anyway.


He's on the scrapheap with Moyes, Bruce and Pardew. Not sure any of them will get a decent job again... which isn't a bad thing!
by jlup1980
Mon Dec 31, 2018 11:52 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: To all the moaners on this board
Replies: 47
Views: 2770

Re: To all the moaners on this board

Doubt he would have been sacked at Huddersfield or Cardiff for the same reason that it would have been stupid for him to be sacked here. Not sure I agree. Again I'm talking about performances. They're have been several performances this season that left us wondering whether Dyche had lost the playe...
by jlup1980
Mon Dec 31, 2018 11:45 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: solskjaer
Replies: 42
Views: 2866

Re: solskjaer

Dark Cloud wrote:They knew what they were doing when they sacked the moaning one off as they were clearly looking at the upcoming fixtures which gave the new guy a honeymoon period with pretty much guaranteed wins.


Absolutely. Even Mark Hughes would have stayed with 3 wins I reckon!!
by jlup1980
Mon Dec 31, 2018 11:37 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: To all the moaners on this board
Replies: 47
Views: 2770

Re: To all the moaners on this board

Football is a fickle game. Fans will ebb and flow with results. I've tried very hard to stay on Dyche's side all along but felt that certain defeats were unacceptable due to their nature. Losing is one thing, performance levels are another. Some of our defeats have been so soft it bordered on embarr...
by jlup1980
Sun Dec 30, 2018 9:08 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Are we down?
Replies: 242
Views: 15469

Re: Are we down?

Today is a free hit. Huddersfield and Fulham are must wins. If we take 6 points from those two our season changes in an instant. The only issue is I don't see us getting a point, nevermind 6!
by jlup1980
Sun Dec 30, 2018 8:55 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Huddersfield lose 7 on the spin.
Replies: 15
Views: 1289

Re: Huddersfield lose 7 on the spin.

Nil nil written all over it. Two sides highly unlikely to score in a brothel at the moment!
by jlup1980
Sat Dec 29, 2018 11:54 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Scott Arfield not holding back!
Replies: 26
Views: 3880

Re: Scott Arfield not holding back!

We miss him badly for his versatility and endeavour. You always knew you'd get maximum effort from Scott and he'd be straight in our team at the moment, whether that's on the wing or in the number 10 spot. Good luck to the lad, it seems to be going well for him.
by jlup1980
Fri Dec 28, 2018 1:48 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Dyche expects tough window
Replies: 260
Views: 12483

Re: Dyche expects tough window

To me that is accepting relegation. There is a reason these players are not playing for top championship teams or in the premier league. And I know this approach has served us well in the past but we are no longer in a financial position where it is necessary for us to find bargains all the time. W...
by jlup1980
Fri Dec 28, 2018 1:24 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: The Vydra Question
Replies: 66
Views: 3345

Re: The Vydra Question

He has not impressed me at all in his sub appearances (was very poor against Arsenal), and you would have to think that Dyche has assessed him in training and doesn't feel he is good enough. That calls a lot of questions over his signing/who actually signed him. What I would say is, after the Evert...
by jlup1980
Fri Dec 28, 2018 1:21 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Dyche expects tough window
Replies: 260
Views: 12483

Re: Dyche expects tough window

We create more money than Championship clubs, but their owners are still willing and able, to bank roll them beyond what they create. In the real world Burnley can't do that. You can only spend the money once, and when it's gone......... Frustrating, but we do what we need to do to survive. Surviva...
by jlup1980
Fri Dec 28, 2018 1:03 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Dyche expects tough window
Replies: 260
Views: 12483

Re: Dyche expects tough window

ClaretTony wrote:Spend that much and the wage bill would rise to a level at which we can't cope. It's the wage bill that becomes the most important, not the transfer fees.


True, but we spent nearly £30m on two players who haven't really featured. Makes you wonder why we didn't just stump up for Dawson and Jay Rod!
by jlup1980
Fri Dec 28, 2018 12:07 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Your team for West Ham
Replies: 106
Views: 3950

Re: Your team for West Ham

You might want to rethink your right-back for two reasons. 1) Lowton has been horrendous recently 2) he's suspended As much as I don't want Ben Mee at left back, I'd go Heaton Bardsley Tarkowski Gibson Mee JBG Westwood Cork McNeil Hendrick Barnes Must admit you're not far off their CT. I'd like to ...
by jlup1980
Fri Dec 28, 2018 12:04 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Dyche expects tough window
Replies: 260
Views: 12483

Re: Dyche expects tough window

We're playing the little old Burnley card too often in my opinion. We're comfortably in the top 50 richest football clubs in Europe and possibly the world, yet we still make out we can't compete with Championship clubs, nevermind PL clubs! Is this the wider issue? We need to shed the small club ment...
by jlup1980
Fri Dec 28, 2018 11:49 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Gate for Barnsley
Replies: 39
Views: 2400

Re: Gate for Barnsley

If we beat West Ham we might get a few more through the gate but I don't see us getting anywhere near 5 figures.
by jlup1980
Fri Dec 28, 2018 11:47 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: JBG ready but Defour and Brady remain doubtful
Replies: 40
Views: 2128

Re: ARTICLE: JBG ready but Defour and Brady remain doubtful

If we ever see Defour in a Burnley shirt again I'll be amazed. He's clearly got a serious problem and is highly unlikely to put in a genuine run of games again. He's not been on the receiving end of a bad tackle since he's been with us; it's just niggly injuries which must be related to his earlier ...
by jlup1980
Fri Dec 28, 2018 9:59 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: The players need a different voice
Replies: 16
Views: 1691

Re: The players need a different voice

I've only ever witnessed that boredom and lack of interest in a game once before and that was at the end of the Cotterill era. For all of his detractors, Cotterill wasn't a bad manager, and neither could anybody say that about Dyche it was just that the players back then needed a different voice - ...
by jlup1980
Fri Dec 28, 2018 9:26 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: The Vydra Question
Replies: 66
Views: 3345

Re: The Vydra Question

Ask any Derby fan and they'll tell you he's a player who comes alive in the final third. I can only assume he's deemed surplus to requirements at the moment due to the fact we never have the ball in the final third.
by jlup1980
Fri Dec 28, 2018 9:21 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Score prediction v West Ham
Replies: 37
Views: 1350

Re: Score prediction v West Ham

Sub bad for good and I agree OK, let's do that. The point still stands that he doesn't deserve to be singled out in a squad of players who are all under performing massively. Taylor has less PL experience than anyone else so I'm willing to cut him a bit more slack. I think there's a good player in ...
by jlup1980
Fri Dec 28, 2018 9:16 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Would you accept David Moyes as a new manager
Replies: 101
Views: 4155

Re: Would you accept David Moyes as a new manager

It isn't just time though, is it? The squad needs massive investment next month. I just hope the board back him. Assuming the players we're after will come. Investment won't happen. We all know that. The Board wouldn't spend when we were at our strongest last summer so they sure as hell won't sign ...
by jlup1980
Fri Dec 28, 2018 9:14 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Would you accept David Moyes as a new manager
Replies: 101
Views: 4155

Re: Would you accept David Moyes as a new manager

Play the game the right way? Pretty but losing regularly? Ok then... As opposed to playing ugly and losing regularly? The Fulham Board shot themselves in the foot over the summer and made Jokanovic the scapegoat. It's well known that Jokanovic didn't want most of the players the Board signed; they ...
by jlup1980
Thu Dec 27, 2018 1:02 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Would you accept David Moyes as a new manager
Replies: 101
Views: 4155

Re: Would you accept David Moyes as a new manager

agreed. He has earned the chance to pull this around. How much time would you allow him then? I agree that he's banked enough credit to be given time to get us out of this rut but, and it's a BIG but, this rut has now lasted 12 months. Every other PL and EFL club would have sacked him by now. We're...
by jlup1980
Thu Dec 27, 2018 11:38 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Score prediction v West Ham
Replies: 37
Views: 1350

Re: Score prediction v West Ham

Taylor has been as good as anyone else this season so it seems harsh to single him out. Mee has been as poor as anyone for starters.

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by jlup1980
Thu Dec 27, 2018 10:11 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Arfield, Boyd, Marley & Barton
Replies: 25
Views: 2066

Re: Arfield, Boyd, Marley & Barton

Arfield would walk into our team at the moment. His versatility was invaluable and hasn't been replaced.
by jlup1980
Thu Dec 27, 2018 9:36 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Who should be dropped for Sunday's game?
Replies: 80
Views: 3879

Re: Who should be dropped for Sunday's game?

Heaton
Bardsley Tarky Gibson Taylor
JBG Hendrick Cork McNeil
Vydra
Barnes

Just the 5 changes for me.
by jlup1980
Thu Dec 27, 2018 9:33 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Would you accept David Moyes as a new manager
Replies: 101
Views: 4155

Re: Would you accept David Moyes as a new manager

If Dyche goes I'd look at Jokanovic. He's had two promotions from the Championship with Watford and Fulham, plus he plays attack minded, entertaining football (this is a must for me) . You won't find a more suitable manager for us currently, certainly not one who's openly available. Best case scenar...
by jlup1980
Wed Dec 26, 2018 11:50 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Dyche must sty and we must vocally support that
Replies: 38
Views: 2150

Re: Dyche must sty and we must vocally support that

Dyche has been loyal to too many underperformers for too long. I suspect the noise levels will increase significantly if we fail to produce against W Ham & Huddersfield. With SD consistently struggling with a Plan B (plus clueless using subs to change games) then the challenge to keep us in the...
by jlup1980
Wed Dec 26, 2018 11:42 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Was there quite a lot of booing at the end of the game,?
Replies: 41
Views: 2986

Re: Was there quite a lot of booing at the end of the game,?

There was a limited amount of booing at the end directed at Dyche but as people have said above the ground was less than a third full by then. I personally shouted 'Rubbish Dyche' from not far behind him in the Bob Lord at the third sub. Not something I make a habit of but i lost my rag with his su...
by jlup1980
Wed Dec 26, 2018 11:30 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Dyche must sty and we must vocally support that
Replies: 38
Views: 2150

Re: Dyche must sty and we must vocally support that

How can we vocally support a team that quite frankly gives us nothing to get behind? The team today was as workmanlike as it gets. No pace, no creativity, no flair, nothing. I'm a fan who likes to sit on the edge of seat and get into a match. I'm vocal whether we win, lose or draw if the performance...
by jlup1980
Wed Dec 26, 2018 9:02 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Stephen Ward
Replies: 136
Views: 4592

Re: Stephen Ward

It's time to write off Ward and Defour. They won't get back to PL fitness levels again any time soon and in Ward's case he's probably too old anyway. In fact, we've got a full rebuild to start going off today's shambles!! Might as well get Nahki back from QPR and start planning for Rovers away next ...
by jlup1980
Wed Dec 26, 2018 8:29 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley v Everton - Player Ratings
Replies: 106
Views: 4906

Re: Burnley v Everton - Player Ratings

Hart 3
Lowton 3
Taylor 3
Gibson 5
Tarkowski 3
Mee 3
Westwood 4
Cork 4
Hendrick 5
Barnes 3
Vokes 3

McNeil 3
Gudmundsson 3

Despicable all round but I felt we also took our only average performing players off. Hendrick was the only one likely to make anything happen and he was hooked!
by jlup1980
Wed Dec 26, 2018 6:05 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: How much more of this must we endure?
Replies: 51
Views: 3181

Re: How much more of this must we endure?

It's the same thing I've been saying for months now. Back him or sack him. Big changes are needed, whether it's players or the manager is up to the Board, because to be honest we're ready relegated. Currently we're sitting in a tide waiting to drown rather than trying to save ourselves. Today was pi...
by jlup1980
Sat Dec 22, 2018 5:04 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: post match interview v Arsenal (updated)
Replies: 11
Views: 1419

Re: post match interview v Arsenal

Today was a gimme. All he had to do was say "watch the Long penalty incident and tell me how it differs from Tarkowski on Ramsey last season" and leave it at that. A direct comparison with two predictable and expected outcomes.
by jlup1980
Thu Dec 20, 2018 8:16 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Lennon has had surgery
Replies: 44
Views: 2475

Re: ARTICLE: Lennon has had surgery

I don't understand the comment about Marney. He hasn't played for us since 22nd Jan 2017. Obviously we would have finished higher than 7th had he been available last season. We haven't missed Marney as such, we've missed having a 5th centre mid due to Defour's lack of availability and Sean's stubbo...
by jlup1980
Thu Dec 20, 2018 3:27 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Lennon has had surgery
Replies: 44
Views: 2475

Re: ARTICLE: Lennon has had surgery

A winger and a centre mid must be the top priority in January surely? And I mean first team quality players as well. Injuries have hampered us all season so replacing Marney and Arfield must be our number one aim?
by jlup1980
Thu Dec 20, 2018 3:25 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Hendrick contract extended
Replies: 61
Views: 3763

Re: ARTICLE: Hendrick contract extended

It wouldn't make sense to allow him to walk away next summer. We're already short in midfield so I'm glad he's signed an extension. However, 12 months sounds like a compromise on both sides. If we saw him as an important player surely we'd be offering 2 or 3 years? Extending Defour's deal was anothe...
by jlup1980
Tue Dec 18, 2018 8:40 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: adeola friday
Replies: 19403
Views: 631132

Re: adeola friday

Relics
by jlup1980
Fri Dec 14, 2018 11:32 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Defour and Guðmundsson doubtful for Spurs
Replies: 30
Views: 2322

Re: ARTICLE: Defour and Guðmundsson doubtful for Spurs

Hart
Bardsley Tarky Mee Taylor
Westwood Cork
Lennon Barnes Brady
Wood

We go again.
by jlup1980
Thu Dec 13, 2018 1:10 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: This morning’s polling
Replies: 277
Views: 5811

Re: This morning’s polling

JohnMcGreal wrote:So people will only believe they've been lied to when the liars tell them that they lied to them?


I'm this instance yes. We all know we were lied to but it's pretty much all conjecture until someone is caught out and the truth revealed in all it's ugliness!!
by jlup1980
Thu Dec 13, 2018 9:08 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: This morning’s polling
Replies: 277
Views: 5811

Re: This morning’s polling

Any re-running of the referendum would mean that democracy in this country is finished. Agreed. In my opinion the only way that can happen is if the likes of Johnson, Farage and co. openly admit that the Leave party purposely, knowingly lied to voters in order to win... and they aren't about to do ...
by jlup1980
Thu Dec 13, 2018 8:46 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: This morning’s polling
Replies: 277
Views: 5811

Re: This morning’s polling

British politics bottomed out yesterday. Surely we can't possibly plunge any deeper than the vote of confidence. It was just about the most pointless vote I can remember. May was always going to win comfortably and was never going to stand down. It was a final desparate play by Rees-Mogg and his cro...
by jlup1980
Tue Dec 11, 2018 10:54 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Karl Henry - Monkey taunts at Turf Moor
Replies: 132
Views: 6774

Re: Karl Henry - Monkey taunts at Turf Moor

The issue I have with our club being dragged into this latest racism debate is the whole town will be portrayed as racist. We'll just be that simple folk from up north, you know the stereotype; flat caps, whippets, “it's grim up north“ rubbish. Clubs in the North always come out of these debates wor...
by jlup1980
Sat Dec 08, 2018 7:08 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Phil Bardsley
Replies: 60
Views: 3452

Re: Phil Bardsley

How did he not get a penalty when he got kicked in the head?!!

Great today.
by jlup1980
Sat Dec 08, 2018 7:05 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brady
Replies: 50
Views: 3908

Re: Brady

Personally thought he was awful in the first half. He did a great impression of Ross Wallace by hiding for 45 minutes. He left Taylor exposed time and again. He was much improved in the second half and clearly offers us another dimension when he gets on the ball. I gave him a 5 overall. Wasn't anywh...
by jlup1980
Sat Dec 08, 2018 7:01 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley v Brighton - Player Ratings
Replies: 84
Views: 4316

Re: Burnley v Brighton - Player Ratings

Hart 5 - dreadful. Almost handed them a goal in the first half and his handling in the second half was embarrassing. Bardsley 7 - solid, gives us an edge Tarkowski 8 - kept andone and Murray quiet Mee 8 - see tarky Taylor 7 - a few decent runs forward. Needed a bit more support from Brady. JBG 6 - i...
by jlup1980
Thu Dec 06, 2018 8:22 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Barnes and Bardsley
Replies: 25
Views: 2712

Re: Barnes and Bardsley

The two B's set the tone early on in respect of tackles and communication. I noted it was Barnes sorting out the defensive line when they got a free kick in the first half. They're on field captains and we need to get them on the pitch to help our recovery at the moment.

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