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by Bacchus
Tue Feb 25, 2020 1:41 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Heading a football
Replies: 67
Views: 3734

Re: Heading a football

Theres more chance of being run over crossing the road. How long before the snow flakes ban crossing the road. Once upon a time it was normal to want your sons to grow up to be men, those in charge seem determined to prevent it. As someone who coaches a junior team I've taken quite an interest in t...
by Bacchus
Thu Oct 03, 2019 1:23 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Ban Smacking
Replies: 172
Views: 25255

Re: Ban Smacking

Right_winger wrote:Well what a leading question let’s see your evidence then since your just waiting to use it.
And Iv seen kids who have had proper discipline and grown up to be respectful adults.
Anyone who can't instill discipline in their kids without resorting to hitting them is a terrible parent.
by Bacchus
Fri Sep 20, 2019 1:37 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: Uniting the Country Since 31/01/2020
Replies: 22828
Views: 1147546

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

Lowbankclaret wrote:
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People are still using this simplistic nonsenseas a justification for Brexit?

It costs me £30 a week in diesel to get to work. Next week I'm going to quit my job and then I'll be £30 a week better off.
by Bacchus
Tue Sep 17, 2019 1:44 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Ben Stokes hits out at The Sun
Replies: 68
Views: 7719

Re: Ben Stokes hits out at The Sun

The daft thing is, if Stokes hadn't had his rant about it, nobody on here would have read the article So nobody on here would read an article on the front page of a newspaper with a circulation of 1.3m? Or read it online? I think the daft thing here is you. I do wonder though, given Stokes' current...
by Bacchus
Sun Sep 01, 2019 12:22 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Defour may leave before European deadline
Replies: 208
Views: 25297

Re: Defour may leave before European deadline

Threads like this always provide a good reminder of who to completely ignore in future. Defour was probably the most talented player we've had at Burnley in my lifetime, but unfortunately blighted by injuries. If he hadn't been we'd never have been in a position to gamble on signing him in the first...
by Bacchus
Tue Jul 23, 2019 1:19 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Boris
Replies: 997
Views: 54914

Re: Boris

Obviously no surprises today so the interesting thing for me will be to see how quickly his fanboys start to turn on him when he starts rowing back on all his promises. He knows as well as anyone what damage a no deal Brexit will do and he won't want that to be his legacy. The idea that it was his d...
by Bacchus
Fri Jul 12, 2019 1:13 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Crouch confirms.....
Replies: 57
Views: 7693

Re: Crouch confirms.....

It seems like this is a really difficult chain of events for some people to understand, but we sold Vokes because he wanted to leave. That made Crouch available at Stoke, and he was deemed fit to fill Vokes' role of 10 minute target man for the rest of the season until we had time to sort out a prop...
by Bacchus
Tue Jul 09, 2019 6:56 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Is Attenborough right?
Replies: 118
Views: 8307

Re: Is Attenborough right?

He's probably right that we all need to fly less. Like others I'm not sure I agree that pricing some people out of it is the right was to achieve that though. Maybe a better approach would be a system where all of our air miles are clocked and there is a limit per individual, probably with exception...
by Bacchus
Fri Jun 07, 2019 1:28 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Are England a touch overrated ?
Replies: 52
Views: 5267

Re: Are England a touch overrated ?

England are a little bit short of the best teams in the world but are certainly a better side than they showed last night. I guess you'd only say they were overrated if you heard people rating them higher than that and I'm not sure I have. Clearly the midfield was weak last night - Henderson & Alli ...
by Bacchus
Fri May 10, 2019 1:11 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Danny Baker sacked
Replies: 182
Views: 13824

Re: Danny Baker sacked

Who cares!? I mean who really cares!? If there's an arena that allows millions of the residents of the metropolitan London Borough of Ivory Towers to get angry over the rise of the Brexit Party. Complain about having to pay more for their aupairs and tradesmen cos the supply of cheap foreign labour...
by Bacchus
Wed Apr 17, 2019 1:01 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: Uniting the Country Since 31/01/2020
Replies: 22828
Views: 1147546

Re: Leave.eu Faked Viral Migrant Footage

I suppose the 24 hours in police custody that was on the tele the other night showing a murdered alcoholic Lithuanian woman who was murdered by n alcoholic Lithuanian man the flatmate an alcoholic Lithuanian saw nothing the visitor an alcoholic Lithuanian who pretended she was alive when he rang fo...
by Bacchus
Fri Apr 05, 2019 7:33 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Danny Rose
Replies: 76
Views: 6453

Re: Danny Rose

So obvious that it goes without saying. The point being made out is the complete lack of understanding he has for how fortunate he is, or of the lives most of his fans live. What he considers a night out is a year or mores wages for a lot of fans paying to watch. That might well be the case. His po...
by Bacchus
Fri Apr 05, 2019 7:09 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Danny Rose
Replies: 76
Views: 6453

Re: Danny Rose

Of course, the obvious question is why the hell should he have to quit his job because of racist abuse? He's paid to be a footballer, not the target of abuse.
by Bacchus
Tue Apr 02, 2019 8:56 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: Uniting the Country Since 31/01/2020
Replies: 22828
Views: 1147546

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

Because the EU have redistributed 26 of our 75 seats already. They are getting ready for the election. If we contest them they have to remove the new 26 seats to give us back our 75 seats. For that you need time to organise. If there wasn't sufficient time the EU wouldn't still be talking about the...
by Bacchus
Tue Apr 02, 2019 7:37 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: Uniting the Country Since 31/01/2020
Replies: 22828
Views: 1147546

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

Lowbankclaret wrote:To have a 2nd ref, we will have to contest the EU elections.
I am not against one but it’s a fact of EU law.
Why is that such an issue? We'd have democratically elected representatives until such a point when we decide whether or not we need them. Seems perfectly reasonable to me.
by Bacchus
Tue Apr 02, 2019 7:35 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: Uniting the Country Since 31/01/2020
Replies: 22828
Views: 1147546

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

Because it has been the aim of most mps since 23 June 2016 to overturn the referendum result. But that would only happen if people actually voted for that themselves. It takes the decision away from the MPs that you're so fed up with. That's what you're really scared of though, isn't it? You're try...
by Bacchus
Tue Apr 02, 2019 7:02 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: Uniting the Country Since 31/01/2020
Replies: 22828
Views: 1147546

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

I still dont understand why a confirmatory referendum is considered to be such an affront to democracy. This is a massive turning point for the country. Asking the people whether they are sure about a course of action before reaching the point of no return is simply common sense.
by Bacchus
Tue Apr 02, 2019 1:26 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: Uniting the Country Since 31/01/2020
Replies: 22828
Views: 1147546

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

The amount of lazy bullshit on this thread increases by the day. Today it seems that lots of people think that being an MEP is an easy job with a huge salary and yet, remarkably, none of these people have actually set about getting themselves elected as MEPs to take advantage of all that easy money....
by Bacchus
Mon Mar 18, 2019 12:58 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: Uniting the Country Since 31/01/2020
Replies: 22828
Views: 1147546

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

I still don't get why the Brexiters are opposed to this deal. Out of the customs union, out of the single market, out of the jurisdiction of the ECJ, no more freedom of movement - it's about as hard a Brexit as it can be. The only sticking point is the backstop - but given that the ERG apparently ha...
by Bacchus
Sat Mar 16, 2019 5:46 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Dreadful Performance
Replies: 40
Views: 4720

Re: Dreadful Performance

It was really poor today. We created nothing, the subs were wrong, the defending was brainless. We gifted Liverpool goals last week and we gifted Leicester two today. We'll go down if we continue in that vein. Its time to get Gibson in for Tarkowski. It's time to give Vydra a proper chance. It's tim...
by Bacchus
Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:18 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: Uniting the Country Since 31/01/2020
Replies: 22828
Views: 1147546

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

It’s either that or crash out with no deal on 29th. As many have pointed out, voting against no deal won’t stop it happening as it’s the default position without an extension or revocation of A50. The best quote I heard on the no deal vote today was ‘it’s like the titanic voting against the iceberg...
by Bacchus
Thu Mar 14, 2019 9:42 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: Uniting the Country Since 31/01/2020
Replies: 22828
Views: 1147546

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

And if the EU denies an extension? I guess May would revoke A50 then resign. Which would be a doubly good result.
by Bacchus
Wed Mar 13, 2019 8:58 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: Uniting the Country Since 31/01/2020
Replies: 22828
Views: 1147546

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

I still think May's deal has a chance. She'll give it one last go, presented as Deal vs Revoke A50 on the basis that Parliament rejects No Deal and an extension will achieve nothing (if the EU even allows it.)
by Bacchus
Tue Feb 26, 2019 1:36 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: Uniting the Country Since 31/01/2020
Replies: 22828
Views: 1147546

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

I'm a bit bored of the whole 'undermining democracy' argument. Democracy was undermined the moment a binary referendum was held on a blatantly non-binary issue and a campaign of lies and misinformation was allowed to inform it. It has been subsequently further undermined by the PM appointing ministe...
by Bacchus
Fri Feb 22, 2019 1:20 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Prisons
Replies: 84
Views: 5034

Re: Prisons

I went into town earlier to buy a pitchfork but all the shops had sold out. Couldn't work out why that might be until I read this thread. A large percentage of criminals will always re-offend if the reasons for them turning to crime in the first place aren't addressed. Taking people who have little ...
by Bacchus
Thu Feb 07, 2019 1:32 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: Uniting the Country Since 31/01/2020
Replies: 22828
Views: 1147546

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

Sure it will, and throw in its lot with JC! This is why May didn't need to bribe them in the first place. The DUP are never going to "get into bed" with Corbyn. They'll just ask May for more money in order to ensure their continued support and she'll comply. Leaving brexit aside. We're in a terribl...
by Bacchus
Fri Jan 25, 2019 1:39 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: #politicslive
Replies: 1236
Views: 51827

Re: #politicslive

This is as simple and comprehensive an explanation of why WTO would be a disaster as you're likely to find. On the other hand, some people who weren't even alive at the time say that we got through the war so we can get through Brexit so I suppose it's all down to personal opinion who you believe. h...
by Bacchus
Fri Jan 11, 2019 12:37 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Are the Tories (and Boris)finished after “Brexit”?
Replies: 65
Views: 3987

Re: Are the Tories (and Boris)finished after “Brexit”?

The Tories aren't finished because the electoral system we have doesn't allow them to be finished. Certain individuals might be though (at least in the sense that their ambitions are pretty much up in smoke.) In fact, rather than finished, I'd be willing to bet that if Labour gets the general electi...
by Bacchus
Fri Jan 04, 2019 1:23 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Seaborne Freight
Replies: 176
Views: 10299

Re: Seaborne Freight

They can lease a ship the same way that airlines lease aircraft! Who are the civil servants who set up and ran the procurement exercise? What was the cost/performance split? Who recommended they get the contract and how poor where the other two tender bids?? The suggestion seems to be that there wa...
by Bacchus
Wed Dec 12, 2018 9:41 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: This morning’s polling
Replies: 277
Views: 15204

Re: This morning’s polling

Labour were talking about tabling a vote of no confidence in May. The Shadow Brexit Secretary was on LBC and said it would be before Christmas. Wonder if that is still in the pipeline? Worrying where this is heading, almost like it was all staged... Staged? I think inevitable is the word you're loo...
by Bacchus
Wed Dec 12, 2018 1:05 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: This morning’s polling
Replies: 277
Views: 15204

Re: This morning’s polling

RingoMcCartney wrote:Bob on.

It's how Gordon Brown became PM.
And Theresa May.
by Bacchus
Wed Dec 12, 2018 1:04 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: This morning’s polling
Replies: 277
Views: 15204

Re: This morning’s polling

My instinct is that she'll survive. The headbangers want her out, for obvious reasons. I'm less convinced that the moderates will though for three reasons: 1 - Some of them will have their eye on the top job (or their preferred candidate) and none of them will want that to be now. 2 - They'll know t...
by Bacchus
Thu Nov 29, 2018 1:49 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Project fear v1 failed so what do they do ??
Replies: 293
Views: 13310

Re: Project fear v1 failed so what do they do ??

Maybe they both see it as the first skirmish in an imminent election or referendum campaign. That's exactly what it will be. Two people who basically agree on Brexit aren't going to engage in an enlightening debate on the matter, particularly given that both of them have spent the last two years tr...
by Bacchus
Mon Nov 26, 2018 3:21 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Haslingden Bypass - mobile speed van on bridge
Replies: 86
Views: 10675

Re: Haslingden Bypass - mobile speed van on bridge

in places where speeding is actually dangerous, not places where speeding is common but safe. That's the problem though. Speed limits are set because it isn't generally safe to exceed them. If it were generally safe to drive faster the speed limit would be higher. There might of course be occasions...
by Bacchus
Mon Nov 26, 2018 2:19 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Haslingden Bypass - mobile speed van on bridge
Replies: 86
Views: 10675

Re: Haslingden Bypass - mobile speed van on bridge

But why, specifically, are speed cameras always in places like this and never, or vortually never, outside schools? Is it because they think that people like Rick, driving at 63 mph on a dual carriageway, are dangers to society while people who speed outside schools are not? Or is it because they c...
by Bacchus
Mon Nov 26, 2018 1:27 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Haslingden Bypass - mobile speed van on bridge
Replies: 86
Views: 10675

Re: Haslingden Bypass - mobile speed van on bridge

I love that people still think that enforcing the law is about 'making profit.' You even get people complaining that the police aren't enforcing the law because they are busy catching people speeding (i.e. enforcing the law.) What do people think the police does with these 'profits?' I completely ac...
by Bacchus
Fri Nov 16, 2018 9:24 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: U.K. Poverty
Replies: 52
Views: 4508

Re: U.K. Poverty

Good post, Andrew. Can we ever eliminate relative poverty if it is always calculated as a fixed percentage of median income? And, do we add in the value of free education and free health care? (Or do the relative poor only receive 60% free education and 60% free health care)? Of course, there is al...
by Bacchus
Tue Nov 13, 2018 9:11 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Daniel Sturridge
Replies: 45
Views: 5050

Re: Daniel Sturridge

I'm going to wander off and smack my head off the floor, it's got to be less painful than this... He's broken the rules, allegedly, if you don't understand that fact then it's fairly pointless carrying on with this chat. If you don't like the fact that he's broken the rules write to the FA or your ...
by Bacchus
Tue Nov 13, 2018 8:59 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Daniel Sturridge
Replies: 45
Views: 5050

Re: Daniel Sturridge

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:I've read all of them and you're still not making sense no matter how many times I read them...

Rules banning players from gambling is mainly related to things like match fixing.
Has he been charged with gambling? From what I've read there is no suggestion that he has placed any bets.
by Bacchus
Tue Nov 13, 2018 8:29 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Daniel Sturridge
Replies: 45
Views: 5050

Re: Daniel Sturridge

First of all, it doesn't protect the gambling industry. Bookies love it when long odds bets come in and the "next club" markets usually have huge overrounds. It's the punters who have bet on the favourites that are the losers. Imagine Sturridge tells his mate that he's going to instruct his agent t...
by Bacchus
Tue Nov 13, 2018 8:24 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Daniel Sturridge
Replies: 45
Views: 5050

Re: Daniel Sturridge

The rule is there to prevent match fixing primarily, because that's been a thing for years incase you'd forgotten and that's before gambling started being a major part of football like it is now. As someone else has said, it's basically insider trading. They made a rule to stop loan players playing...
by Bacchus
Tue Nov 13, 2018 6:28 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Daniel Sturridge
Replies: 45
Views: 5050

Re: Daniel Sturridge

Nothing, it's the making money on it via betting that's the issue, or haven't you been keeping up with the story? Yes I have - that's exactly the point I'm making. The rule exists solely because of the gambling industry. If the FA is enforcing rules purely to maintain the viability of betting marke...
by Bacchus
Tue Nov 13, 2018 6:19 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Daniel Sturridge
Replies: 45
Views: 5050

Re: Daniel Sturridge

Tall Paul wrote:Their purpose is to maintain the integrity of the game.
How does it achieve that? What integrity is broken by a player telling his pal that he is moving club?
by Bacchus
Tue Nov 13, 2018 4:17 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Daniel Sturridge
Replies: 45
Views: 5050

Re: Daniel Sturridge

martin_p wrote:He’s compelled to keep quiet about it by the rules. He’s not allowed to pass on info he’s privy to because of his position in football. Sort of insider trading.
I recognise that. My point is that those rules don't seem to serve any obvious purpose beyond supporting the gambling industry.
by Bacchus
Tue Nov 13, 2018 12:48 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Daniel Sturridge
Replies: 45
Views: 5050

Re: Daniel Sturridge

Appears whilst Sturridge himself didn't place a bet he let people know of his loan move to West Brom which people then betted on. This is where football can do something. Why should Sturridge be compelled by the FA to keep the fact that he's changing job private? I can understand why the respective...
by Bacchus
Mon Nov 12, 2018 1:10 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Jeremy Corbyn
Replies: 191
Views: 15599

Re: Jeremy Corbyn

Well If that is the case LC I suggest that those millions start to wise up and double quick to voting tactically if they want to first of all get rid of this dreadful excuse of a government! Unfortunately tactical voting only works in a handful of constituencies. I lent Labour my vote last year in ...
by Bacchus
Mon Nov 05, 2018 1:14 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: James McClean to be investigated by the FA
Replies: 103
Views: 7766

Re: James McClean to be investigated by the FA

It's hard to imagine anything less consequential than a man not wanting to wear a flower on his shirt and yet every year, without fail, the same mindless drongos get outraged by it. Snowflakery of the highest order. It's got to the stage where I have to think twice about whether I want wear one myse...
by Bacchus
Tue Oct 23, 2018 6:35 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Can we have another discussion of Brexit?
Replies: 163
Views: 11620

Re: Can we have another discussion of Brexit?

RocketLawnChair wrote:How exactly do you know this?
Well obviously it depends on what specific complaint you're asking about but many of the things that people do, often justifiably, complain about are down to our national government rather than the EU.
by Bacchus
Tue Oct 23, 2018 6:33 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Can we have another discussion of Brexit?
Replies: 163
Views: 11620

Re: Can we have another discussion of Brexit?

burnleymik wrote:Certainly feels that way if we cannot change the rules to suit the needs of our own citizens.
We played a leading role in creating most of the rules. The thing with co-operation is that you don't just get to do what you want, when you want.