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by Lancasterclaret
Fri Jun 28, 2019 1:47 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 10407
Views: 154360

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

I’d be amazed if we leave on WTO terms. The No Deal alternative is an inducement / threat to get a deal done. As you know any business negotiation has to has have a fall back position, that no one really wants. But it has to be there to get compromises and focus minds. It is all sabre rattling at t...
by Lancasterclaret
Fri Jun 28, 2019 1:44 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 10407
Views: 154360

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

If tariffs on improted cars are going to 100%, doubling the costs of imported cars bought in the UK, then I would very much doubt that car manufacturers in the UK would be shutting down just at the moment that they get a huge competitive boost. Are Vauxhall going to make cars in Germany to sell at ...
by Lancasterclaret
Fri Jun 28, 2019 1:37 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 10407
Views: 154360

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

Help for the auto industry.... we already break several EU rules on incentivising manufacture. The car industry in Britain has been propped up since the 90’s when I worked in it.... even then Honda and Nissan had money thrown at them, whereas Rover and Austin were left to fend for themselves... and...
by Lancasterclaret
Fri Jun 28, 2019 1:33 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: C4 Conservative leader debate
Replies: 738
Views: 16294

Re: C4 Conservative leader debate

There is a cracking analysis of the WTO effects by Peter Foster of the Telegraph today.

Well worth a read, though it is rather long (about 30+ consecutive tweets)

https://twitter.com/pmdfoster/status/11 ... 6986811392
by Lancasterclaret
Fri Jun 28, 2019 1:30 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 10407
Views: 154360

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

Yes Lancs, I agree, which is why (as a normal person) I said that I am up for helping the auto industry. But being up for it, and having it as the primary consideration, are two very different things. Micro businesses with less than 10 employees have 8,802,000 employees in the U.K. and turnover £80...
by Lancasterclaret
Fri Jun 28, 2019 7:21 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 10407
Views: 154360

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

taio wrote:The last sentence is fuckin hilarious :lol: :lol: :lol:


I'm active on the political threads and that's it.

I might be active on the transfer speculation threads if we ever had any though!
by Lancasterclaret
Thu Jun 27, 2019 11:20 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 10407
Views: 154360

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

I forgot you're the expert on everything and nails it every time ... You once told me to stick to the automotive industry, yet when I do and lay it all out for you, you're not interested. You'll listen to all the alleged experts but until it happens brexit and it's outcome can't be predicted accura...
by Lancasterclaret
Thu Jun 27, 2019 11:15 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 10407
Views: 154360

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:You'll still be on here later and tomorrow banging the same tired drum though, you're on here more than I am amusingly.


Only one account though, as I'm not a saddo

And I seriously doubt I'm on here more than you are.
by Lancasterclaret
Thu Jun 27, 2019 10:20 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 10407
Views: 154360

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:Nah, it's been going on for years on here, it goes over my head nowadays.


You are not kidding.
by Lancasterclaret
Thu Jun 27, 2019 10:20 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 10407
Views: 154360

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

They've got form for leaving the UK, PSA, the parent company. They're using PSA chassis etc for next generation vauxhall models that aren't made in the UK. You're a clever chap, you can join up the dots if you really wanted to. I'm clever enough to know my limitations. Its such a shame that not eve...
by Lancasterclaret
Thu Jun 27, 2019 10:17 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 10407
Views: 154360

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

Why did they leave in 2006? I've asked and no one's been arsed to answer, apart from me.... Vauxhall is/was sinking and needs a major overhaul of the business. By using current PSA chassis and equipment there isn't actually any real reason to keep the plant in the UK open. If Brexit wasn't happenin...
by Lancasterclaret
Thu Jun 27, 2019 10:16 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 10407
Views: 154360

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

Why did they leave in 2006? I've asked and no one's been arsed to answer, apart from me.... Vauxhall is/was sinking and needs a major overhaul of the business. By using current PSA chassis and equipment there isn't actually any real reason to keep the plant in the UK open. If Brexit wasn't happenin...
by Lancasterclaret
Thu Jun 27, 2019 10:14 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 10407
Views: 154360

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

Only a mug would base our strategic economic plan on a declining sector. I’m all for trying to help the auto industry but it is fighting a losing battle, regardless of Brexit. Thus it cannot be the biggest consideration. So again, Brexiteer line will be its nothing to do with Brexit. Manufacturing ...
by Lancasterclaret
Thu Jun 27, 2019 10:01 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 10407
Views: 154360

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

When they leave and say its not because of Brexit, its not

When they leave and say its because of Brexit, its still not.
by Lancasterclaret
Thu Jun 27, 2019 8:49 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 10407
Views: 154360

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

Welcome to reality
by Lancasterclaret
Thu Jun 27, 2019 2:42 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Extremist Abortion Laws
Replies: 70
Views: 2221

Re: Extremist Abortion Laws

Once you mention that the lass is black, that should smoke them out.
by Lancasterclaret
Thu Jun 27, 2019 12:49 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Scam alert
Replies: 55
Views: 2924

Re: Scam alert

He's missed out there

If he's put in Bangalore House, Bangalore Street, Bangalore he's have got me
by Lancasterclaret
Thu Jun 27, 2019 11:29 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: C4 Conservative leader debate
Replies: 738
Views: 16294

Re: C4 Conservative leader debate

taio wrote:Only looked at the first link. I don't follow the point about not standing up to scrutiny. The article just says how much the proposals would cost and who would be affected. It doesn't evidence or even say they wouldn't be deliverable.


Anything is deliverable if you don't care about the costs.
by Lancasterclaret
Thu Jun 27, 2019 11:15 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: C4 Conservative leader debate
Replies: 738
Views: 16294

Re: C4 Conservative leader debate

Both candidates spending pledges not standing up to scrutiny from the IFS,what a shock. Boris https://www.ifs.org.uk/publications/14212 Jeremy https://www.ifs.org.uk/publications/14213 This is what should be subject to discussion,not tittle-tattle. The IFS have been demolishing the case against Bre...
by Lancasterclaret
Thu Jun 27, 2019 10:55 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: BFC TRANSFER NEWS (MUST CONTAIN LINK)
Replies: 2119
Views: 198863

Re: BFC TRANSFER NEWS (MUST CONTAIN LINK)

I log in the morning to see if there is any transfer speculation.

I don't really care about other teams full backs I have to be honest, especially when they are not going to be signing for us.
by Lancasterclaret
Thu Jun 27, 2019 9:49 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Sean Dyche
Replies: 46
Views: 3234

Re: Sean Dyche

Nothing we can do if he decides to leave.

And nothing we can do if he thinks a move to a club run by Mike Ashley is in his best interests.
by Lancasterclaret
Thu Jun 27, 2019 9:23 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: BFC TRANSFER NEWS (MUST CONTAIN LINK)
Replies: 2119
Views: 198863

Re: BFC TRANSFER NEWS (MUST CONTAIN LINK)

So your opinion that AWB is the best right back in the Premier League is based on his two games against us? Man .... I bet you think Shaun Goater and Bob Taylor are the greatest centre forwards in the history of football. Chanting "Taylor for England" as he bagged No 4 and No 5 against us...
by Lancasterclaret
Thu Jun 27, 2019 9:21 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: BFC TRANSFER NEWS (MUST CONTAIN LINK)
Replies: 2119
Views: 198863

Re: BFC TRANSFER NEWS (MUST CONTAIN LINK)

Imagine making opinions of players from what you saw with your very own eyes? What a strange way to do things ? No problem with that, and there is no doubt that this lad is a fine player. He's miles behind TAA though, which is the bit that I think you probably need to go "Fair enough" I'm...
by Lancasterclaret
Thu Jun 27, 2019 8:29 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: C4 Conservative leader debate
Replies: 738
Views: 16294

Re: C4 Conservative leader debate

And then the newspaper for a payday ? Up to them I think you have a low opinion of journalists if you think this wouldn't have got into the papers anyway to be fair. Its what they appear to exist for these days. Certainly the majority don't actually report stuff that is important but boring (like t...
by Lancasterclaret
Thu Jun 27, 2019 8:28 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: C4 Conservative leader debate
Replies: 738
Views: 16294

Re: C4 Conservative leader debate

I think there are a few things going on here. The neighbours who went to Guardian are reported to have previously been "claiming bragging rights" for (I forget the phrase) "indicating" to Boris Johnson that they didn't support him. BJ was removing "not wanted here" (or...
by Lancasterclaret
Thu Jun 27, 2019 7:36 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: BFC TRANSFER NEWS (MUST CONTAIN LINK)
Replies: 2119
Views: 198863

Re: BFC TRANSFER NEWS (MUST CONTAIN LINK)

Sproggy wrote:WB looked very ordinary in the U21's tournament and got dropped.


Only counts if Quick saw him play I think.
by Lancasterclaret
Wed Jun 26, 2019 10:39 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: BFC TRANSFER NEWS (MUST CONTAIN LINK)
Replies: 2119
Views: 198863

Re: BFC TRANSFER NEWS (MUST CONTAIN LINK)

Rileybobs wrote:I don’t think you can say with any credibility that Wan Bissaka is currently a better player than Alexander Arnold.


I don't think you can say that unless you are a smacked off your tits United fan who still hasn't accepted that maybe their transfer policy need quite a bit of work
by Lancasterclaret
Wed Jun 26, 2019 5:56 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: C4 Conservative leader debate
Replies: 738
Views: 16294

Re: C4 Conservative leader debate

Still impressed with them moving back in time for that photograph.

Now that is a rare talent for a MP
by Lancasterclaret
Tue Jun 25, 2019 1:18 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brighton showing us the way again by early business
Replies: 90
Views: 4301

Re: Brighton showing us the way again by early business

Trossard is a good player, but big difference between Juniper League and Prem league.

But yeah, getting players in early is always preferable.
by Lancasterclaret
Mon Jun 24, 2019 10:49 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 10407
Views: 154360

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

Yes, we get it - for you it's the Great God Money and you would sell your granny for ten bob, for me it isn't. Just don't chuck it round as an insult. Nope, its about the UK economy Lets cut to the chase here DSR. You are well off, and don't give a **** about those who are not, while I actually do.
by Lancasterclaret
Mon Jun 24, 2019 4:55 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 10407
Views: 154360

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

From a corporate/free market perspective it would be worse. Corbyn would sign up to EU minimum standards on workers' rights, environmental protections, citzens' rights, consumer standards and consumer protections without hesitation, because his program would exceed the (paltry) EU standards in all ...
by Lancasterclaret
Mon Jun 24, 2019 4:29 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 10407
Views: 154360

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

If it be your will wrote:Better? Worse? It would depend on your perspective.

Fundamentally different? Without a doubt.


It couldn't be worse, because Lab understand the CM and the SU (at least in the short to medium term)
by Lancasterclaret
Mon Jun 24, 2019 4:10 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 10407
Views: 154360

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

Corbyn in PMQs making a pretty big swing towards a 2nd ref.

too late I reckon, but fair play for at least recognising that a GE isn't the only other way out of it.
by Lancasterclaret
Mon Jun 24, 2019 4:09 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 10407
Views: 154360

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

Not quite. A Labour win in a GE gives Corbyn a go at negotiations. And whatever everyone says about "May's deal is very similar to Labour's deal" they are completely and utterly mistaken. Labour would approach the whole thing from a completely different angle, and produce a completely dif...
by Lancasterclaret
Mon Jun 24, 2019 4:08 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 10407
Views: 154360

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

AndyClaret wrote:The don't write things that you can't stand up, simples.


So you already know that Bankski isn't lying and he hasn't done these things?

Of course you don't, he's just pro-brexit and a bloke who doesn't like being told what to do by a lass.

He's probably your role model.
by Lancasterclaret
Mon Jun 24, 2019 2:40 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Boris or Hunt you have to pick one
Replies: 105
Views: 4077

Re: Boris or Hunt you have to pick one

RingoMcCartney wrote:"One".

Each day.

As for keeping score. Don't blame you. No point wallowing in self pity.


True

It would almost be as daft as blaming the EU for everything!
by Lancasterclaret
Mon Jun 24, 2019 2:36 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 10407
Views: 154360

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

Lancasterclaret wrote:Why isn't he suing all the much bigger news organisations that investigated the story, rather than concentrating on one journalist?


Silly question

Because he's bully and he's hoping to bully the one organisation that can't outspend him

The trick of wealthy guilty men and women for decades.
by Lancasterclaret
Mon Jun 24, 2019 2:07 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 10407
Views: 154360

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

AndyClaret wrote:Banks sues Codswollop, hopefully O'Bigot next.

https://twitter.com/GuidoFawkes/status/ ... 7497299968


Why isn't he suing all the much bigger news organisations that investigated the story, rather than concentrating on one journalist?
by Lancasterclaret
Mon Jun 24, 2019 2:04 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Boris or Hunt you have to pick one
Replies: 105
Views: 4077

Re: Boris or Hunt you have to pick one

RingoMcCartney wrote:Well you should know.

"Even Ringo" has had the better of you on more than one occasion........


I'm pleased you remember the one Ringo old chap.

I don't keep score.
by Lancasterclaret
Mon Jun 24, 2019 12:50 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Rafa Goes
Replies: 67
Views: 4572

Re: Rafa Goes

Huge for us this.
by Lancasterclaret
Mon Jun 24, 2019 12:49 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Ben Gibson
Replies: 54
Views: 4484

Re: Ben Gibson

VVD played for Celtic the top six all overlooked him till Liverpool took a punt,best central defender in the world right now,not saying Tarkowski is anyway hear VVD but if you don't take a risk you don't prosper, Tarkowski is easily as good as Maguire,and people are quoting 80 million for him. Tark...
by Lancasterclaret
Mon Jun 24, 2019 12:30 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Ben Gibson
Replies: 54
Views: 4484

Re: Ben Gibson

is there actually any truth in this?

I can't see us being happy with both him and tarks leaving
by Lancasterclaret
Mon Jun 24, 2019 12:15 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 10407
Views: 154360

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

An article by one of the guys leading today’s paper about Northern Ireland. https://brexitcentral.com/a-hard-irish-border-can-be-avoided-under-any-brexit-outcome/ In essence he is saying what many of us Brexiteers have been saying for years - that our weak government has allowed the debate to be ch...
by Lancasterclaret
Mon Jun 24, 2019 10:45 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Boris or Hunt you have to pick one
Replies: 105
Views: 4077

Re: Boris or Hunt you have to pick one

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:I was thinking more in a general election


I think my point still stands!
by Lancasterclaret
Mon Jun 24, 2019 9:53 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: C4 Conservative leader debate
Replies: 738
Views: 16294

Re: C4 Conservative leader debate

That is a decent point, no question. But it's an exceptionally dangerous road. I'm not sure we're quite at the point where MPs should be suggesting extremely violent, extra judicial means to deal with the racism problem. Oh I don't disagree. But how can you get to the stage where the casual racism ...
by Lancasterclaret
Mon Jun 24, 2019 9:41 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: C4 Conservative leader debate
Replies: 738
Views: 16294

Re: C4 Conservative leader debate

Hmm. There's hating them and there's chucking battery acid on them. I happen to think this Lammy tweet is wrong, and a mistake. However understandable it might be. Well, its a mistake because it gives those with a very tiny brain justification (in their eyes for their beliefs) is it a mistake becau...
by Lancasterclaret
Mon Jun 24, 2019 9:16 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Boris or Hunt you have to pick one
Replies: 105
Views: 4077

Re: Boris or Hunt you have to pick one

Out of those 2 Boris every time. Johnson will destroy Corbyn every time where as Hunt may lose 2 or 3 times in 10. Keeping Corbyn the biggest danger and his cronies out should be the main focus for everybody. No offence, but even Ringo would destroy Corbyn ever time. Being able to beat Corbyn at PM...
by Lancasterclaret
Mon Jun 24, 2019 9:15 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 10407
Views: 154360

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

Conference on alternative border arrangements today in NI.

Will be a big test to see if they can find a way to make it work so everyone is happy and something long term that people actually believe.
by Lancasterclaret
Mon Jun 24, 2019 7:46 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 10407
Views: 154360

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

This is Jeremy Hunt spelling out the realities of a "No Deal" for jobs and families (while also saying he'd have no choice because 52% of the country voted for Brexit, even though he knows full well that not all of them voted for a No Deal) https://twitter.com/Beany_1/status/11426932355271...
by Lancasterclaret
Mon Jun 24, 2019 7:41 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 10407
Views: 154360

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

See the GATT 24 myth was destroyed yesterday by.......Liam Fox (of all people)

Can't help thinking we are going to end up with a very slightly tweaked May agreement.

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