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by Lancasterclaret
Wed Feb 20, 2019 10:54 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 1871
Views: 19583

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

Ringo, i'm going to leave you to argue with yourself about evidence. You asked for 100% evidence. I provided it. Another Brexiteer who is normally bright chimed in to look even sillier to back a fellow Brexiteer. You keep digging the hole by SHOCK! HORROR! deflecting it! Keep going though, as I'm of...
by Lancasterclaret
Wed Feb 20, 2019 10:46 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Labour MPs To Split From Party?
Replies: 120
Views: 2268

Re: Labour MPs To Split From Party?

Problem Lab have is that they don't regard some of the things they say are anti-semitic.

The fact that everybody else does is completely irrelevant to them.
by Lancasterclaret
Wed Feb 20, 2019 10:44 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 1871
Views: 19583

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

I am sticking to real news Crosspool. That is 2000 jobs that are no longer in the UK. That is 2000 people who no longer pay taxes, use services, spend money in the UK. I do worry about some of you on here sometimes. The desire to desperately prove me wrong is resulting in some pretty wild claims.
by Lancasterclaret
Wed Feb 20, 2019 10:22 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: The Independent Group of MP's ...
Replies: 17
Views: 551

Re: The Independent Group of MP's ...

Yes, we are.

Which is why referendums are bloody stupid without safeguards and planning.
by Lancasterclaret
Wed Feb 20, 2019 10:17 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 1871
Views: 19583

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

Yes they are. You asked for a negative impact that us leaving the EU has done. I have given you two. You have ignored them because it doesn't suit your argument. Doesn't do your argument any favours at all as it proves you are willing to ignore reality. In short, Brexiteers v LC on here since 2016.
by Lancasterclaret
Wed Feb 20, 2019 10:13 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: O/T I want to come home
Replies: 606
Views: 9956

Re: O/T I want to come home

This explains the likely consequences of this far better than I can.


https://twitter.com/mpc_1968/status/1098009898116415489
by Lancasterclaret
Wed Feb 20, 2019 10:08 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 1871
Views: 19583

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

Yes.

two EU institutions have left the UK, taking about 2000 jobs with them.

Next!
by Lancasterclaret
Wed Feb 20, 2019 10:07 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: The Independent Group of MP's ...
Replies: 17
Views: 551

Re: The Independent Group of MP's ...

Almost as bad as saying a 2nd vote isn't democratic if you think about it.
by Lancasterclaret
Wed Feb 20, 2019 10:02 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Labour MPs To Split From Party?
Replies: 120
Views: 2268

Re: Labour MPs To Split From Party?

See Derek Hatton is back in.

Its almost like this Labour party hasn't learnt a single lesson from the past.

Surely not the case with Jeremy Corbyn in charge?
by Lancasterclaret
Wed Feb 20, 2019 9:52 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: The Independent Group of MP's ...
Replies: 17
Views: 551

Re: The Independent Group of MP's ...

You need to check out the voting record of the one of the members of the IG if that is your issue.
by Lancasterclaret
Wed Feb 20, 2019 9:48 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: O/T I want to come home
Replies: 606
Views: 9956

Re: O/T I want to come home

Nothing

Sajid Javid wants to appeal to the hard right, regardless of the consequences.

Sadly that is UK politicians at the moment. Incapable of seeing past short term stuff and then denying any involvement when it turns into long term problems.
by Lancasterclaret
Wed Feb 20, 2019 8:23 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: O/T I want to come home
Replies: 606
Views: 9956

Re: O/T I want to come home

Javid can only do this because she has Bangladeshi parents.

he couldn't do it to me, whatever I did.

This creates two classes of Brits.

Thats a route we shouldn't be going down.
by Lancasterclaret
Tue Feb 19, 2019 3:09 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 1871
Views: 19583

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

This thread is great. I always though I knew what constituted evidence, but it turns out that a bloke from Burnley has completely reinvented what it means. This could be the only benefit of Brexit. In years to come, people will be using the Ringoscale of what constitutes evidence. We should be bless...
by Lancasterclaret
Tue Feb 19, 2019 8:13 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Honda - Possibly going to close Swindon plant 2022
Replies: 59
Views: 1407

Re: Honda - Possibly going to close Swindon plant 2022

Yes Come on Claretonthecoast, the way some on here swallow literally any old **** about Brexit because it suits them too is a lot harder to do when someone is pointing out that what they believe is 99% garbage isn't it? Spiral made a good point on the banning political voting thread - its was very p...
by Lancasterclaret
Tue Feb 19, 2019 8:03 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Honda - Possibly going to close Swindon plant 2022
Replies: 59
Views: 1407

Re: Honda - Possibly going to close Swindon plant 2022

I did say all that yesterday to be fair. My post is aimed at those who will continue to refuse to blame Brexit for anything. I posted a link yesterday to how various factors are at play here, and that includes Brexit If you really want to know the effects of Brexit on our supply chains, then ask Her...
by Lancasterclaret
Tue Feb 19, 2019 7:47 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Political Threads - Poll
Replies: 159
Views: 3093

Re: Political Threads - Poll

Winners don't do compromise.

Two years of political threads on here have told you that surely?
by Lancasterclaret
Tue Feb 19, 2019 7:43 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Honda - Possibly going to close Swindon plant 2022
Replies: 59
Views: 1407

Re: Honda - Possibly going to close Swindon plant 2022

I am starting to come to the conclusion that nothing can ever be linked to Brexit if you believe in it enough. I'm now of the belief that if someone loses their job because of Brexit, is told by their boss its because of Brexit, the newspapers will tell them that its because of Brexit and 99% of exp...
by Lancasterclaret
Mon Feb 18, 2019 9:31 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 1871
Views: 19583

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

or alternatively the amount of evidence that its a bad idea is actually getting to the stage that politicians might notice it and realise that backing it could be pretty bad for their health?
by Lancasterclaret
Mon Feb 18, 2019 8:20 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Labour MPs To Split From Party?
Replies: 120
Views: 2268

Re: Labour MPs To Split From Party?

Fair enough!

Have a biscuit!
by Lancasterclaret
Mon Feb 18, 2019 8:16 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 1871
Views: 19583

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

Big cuts in corporation tax are not a panacea for Brexit related issues lads.
by Lancasterclaret
Mon Feb 18, 2019 8:12 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Labour MPs To Split From Party?
Replies: 120
Views: 2268

Re: Labour MPs To Split From Party?

Wasn't that a general election though?
by Lancasterclaret
Mon Feb 18, 2019 7:22 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Political Threads - Poll
Replies: 159
Views: 3093

Re: Political Threads - Poll

If i could hazard a guess why its changed

- Burnley not doing as well

- Brexit looking a lot shitter than it did then, and people don't want to be reminded about that

- Joe hart
by Lancasterclaret
Mon Feb 18, 2019 7:08 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 1871
Views: 19583

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

Big story in the papers this morning about the slowness of the Japanese to want to agree to a quick trade deal with the UK as well.

Like all the others, they are going to wait till we are desperate.

If we drop out with a "No Deal", this could get really ****, really quickly
by Lancasterclaret
Mon Feb 18, 2019 7:00 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 1871
Views: 19583

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

These discussions will have been made over time. They knew that the EU and Japan were close to a trade deal. They knew that we were leaving the EU and that a deal wasn't guaranteed. There is plenty out there of Japanese politicians and business owners all saying that the UK is the gateway to Europe ...
by Lancasterclaret
Mon Feb 18, 2019 6:52 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Political Threads - Poll
Replies: 159
Views: 3093

Re: Political Threads - Poll

If some of you are not fixing this so it ends up 52-48 then I'll be very, very, very, very disappointed.
by Lancasterclaret
Mon Feb 18, 2019 6:36 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 1871
Views: 19583

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

Guess we will see with the official statement tomorrow.

But this is a long term strategy decision. Posted a link to supply chain analysis of this if you are interested Damo. Worth a read.

Its on my post above this!
by Lancasterclaret
Mon Feb 18, 2019 6:20 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: This is not a Brexit post.....
Replies: 42
Views: 674

Re: This is not a Brexit post.....

This is true.

Imagine just getting our European scouting network up and running and then finding out that we can't sign any of them because of something we can't talk about.
by Lancasterclaret
Mon Feb 18, 2019 6:10 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 1871
Views: 19583

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

No point in having an engine manufacturing facility in the UK for exporting to the EU when the UK is out of the EU and the EU and Japan have just signed a free trade deal. Businesses have to plan on stuff that exists. At the moment, there is nothing to suggest that the above statement will change or...
by Lancasterclaret
Mon Feb 18, 2019 5:48 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 1871
Views: 19583

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

If you are genuinely interested in a more complex discussion about whether Honda has made this decision due to Brexit, then this is one for you.

https://twitter.com/EmporersNewC/status ... 1056366593
by Lancasterclaret
Mon Feb 18, 2019 5:05 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 1871
Views: 19583

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

We seem to be moving into a world beyond supply chains.


That is something that makes no sense at all.

Without supply chains, you don't have the advanced economies we have now.

That is not a good thing for people who work and eat.
by Lancasterclaret
Mon Feb 18, 2019 2:08 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Political Threads - Poll
Replies: 159
Views: 3093

Re: Political Threads - Poll

Its easy to enough to do.

Me and dsr and miles apart politically, but we are 100% aligned on the best way for Burnley FC.
by Lancasterclaret
Mon Feb 18, 2019 1:57 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: This is not a Brexit post.....
Replies: 42
Views: 674

Re: This is not a Brexit post.....

because it is of interest to me PYCB.

I quite get that it isn't for everyone though!
by Lancasterclaret
Mon Feb 18, 2019 1:28 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Political Threads - Poll
Replies: 159
Views: 3093

Re: Political Threads - Poll

I'm sure we had a poll on this last year.

I welcome the chance for a mature democracy to change its mind. :)
by Lancasterclaret
Mon Feb 18, 2019 1:13 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: This is not a Brexit post.....
Replies: 42
Views: 674

Re: This is not a Brexit post.....

Fine

I don't give a **** either way to be honest.

I only come on here to argue with the terminally mis-informed on Brexit and the EDL backers.
by Lancasterclaret
Mon Feb 18, 2019 1:12 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: This is not a Brexit post.....
Replies: 42
Views: 674

Re: This is not a Brexit post.....

Not enough tenacious D links on here!
by Lancasterclaret
Mon Feb 18, 2019 1:02 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: This is not a Brexit post.....
Replies: 42
Views: 674

Re: This is not a Brexit post.....

Cool, whatever.

Before Brexit, people used to be bright enough not to click on posts they didn't want to read.
by Lancasterclaret
Mon Feb 18, 2019 12:59 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 1871
Views: 19583

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

"Plain common sense" on a complex issue.

You do know that common sense would be to listen to people who know what they are talking about.
by Lancasterclaret
Mon Feb 18, 2019 12:45 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 1871
Views: 19583

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

I'm still amazed at the mental process required to ignore economic advice.

I get it if there are loads of opinions on both sides, but not when the overwhelming evidence is one way.
by Lancasterclaret
Mon Feb 18, 2019 12:36 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Labour MPs To Split From Party?
Replies: 120
Views: 2268

Re: Labour MPs To Split From Party?

Not till next week and the meaningful vote schenegians anyway.
by Lancasterclaret
Mon Feb 18, 2019 12:29 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Labour MPs To Split From Party?
Replies: 120
Views: 2268

Re: Labour MPs To Split From Party?

Crikey, I'd forgotten that kind of thing ever happened. Just saw something that suggests only Angela Smith would potentially result in a Con win in the by-election. Can't see any of them winning one. Worth bearing in mind that kate Hoey hung on to her seat, despite being the only DUP member in the L...
by Lancasterclaret
Mon Feb 18, 2019 12:26 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: This is not a Brexit post.....
Replies: 42
Views: 674

Re: This is not a Brexit post.....

Me*

*Fed up with the ones in which I have to keep telling people that the total ******** they are spouting is total ********.
by Lancasterclaret
Mon Feb 18, 2019 12:11 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Labour MPs To Split From Party?
Replies: 120
Views: 2268

Re: Labour MPs To Split From Party?

Probably will. The Tories won't want them to survive and the Momentumbots will just intensify their attacks. And with less people in the Labour Party who go "hang on, thats anti-semitism (or whatever)", then more of it will go unreported* *and with their track record, is it even worth repo...
by Lancasterclaret
Mon Feb 18, 2019 11:55 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Labour MPs To Split From Party?
Replies: 120
Views: 2268

Re: Labour MPs To Split From Party?

Worth pointing out that any splits like this in a FPTP system are a bit of a waste of time unless they can energise the voting base.
by Lancasterclaret
Mon Feb 18, 2019 11:46 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Labour MPs To Split From Party?
Replies: 120
Views: 2268

Re: Labour MPs To Split From Party?

No by-elections called when those two Conservative MPs changed to UKIP.

Probably should be one like, but its not the norm when MPs become independants.
by Lancasterclaret
Mon Feb 18, 2019 8:23 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: O/T I want to come home
Replies: 606
Views: 9956

Re: O/T I want to come home

Well up to a point.

I don't want to be in a situation where laws can be ignored because a majority of people want them to be.

Thats a dangerous precedent to set.
by Lancasterclaret
Mon Feb 18, 2019 8:12 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: O/T I want to come home
Replies: 606
Views: 9956

Re: O/T I want to come home

Not a shock that explaining the value of law to people who can't see past skin colour and religion is a complete waste of time is it?
by Lancasterclaret
Sun Feb 17, 2019 11:26 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 1871
Views: 19583

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

Right, so opinion pieces and a personal opinion.

Polls don't share that btw
by Lancasterclaret
Sun Feb 17, 2019 9:17 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 1871
Views: 19583

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

That a big stretch what you are claiming there Elwa.

Care to back it up with facts (or at the very least, the latest polling results)?
by Lancasterclaret
Sun Feb 17, 2019 7:46 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: O/T I want to come home
Replies: 606
Views: 9956

Re: O/T I want to come home

Worth reiterating here No one wants this piece of **** back in the UK but you can't just overturn the rule of law. For it to be a 9 pager, with most of the comments saying we should do exactly that (and not just from the usual suspects) is bloody worrying. Just what sort of country are we turning in...

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