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by Lancasterclaret
Fri Nov 29, 2019 8:28 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Drinkwater in Dyche's thoughts for Saturday
Replies: 45
Views: 2103

Re: Drinkwater in Dyche's thoughts for Saturday

Good, we need competition for as many places as possible.
by Lancasterclaret
Thu Nov 28, 2019 7:52 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: General Election Is On
Replies: 5094
Views: 77529

Re: General Election Is On

Are you a massive Corbynista Inchy? He's just making a very good point. You are one of the brighter and more rational ones from the other side of the debate on here Damo. I get that Brexit is a big deal for some, I get that disliking Corbyn is a big deal for others, but surely this is a "none of th...
by Lancasterclaret
Thu Nov 28, 2019 7:00 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: General Election Is On
Replies: 5094
Views: 77529

Re: General Election Is On

So we are expected to believe that Johnson will stand up to the likes of Putin and Trump when he's **** scared of Andrew Neil?
by Lancasterclaret
Thu Nov 28, 2019 9:04 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: General Election Is On
Replies: 5094
Views: 77529

Re: General Election Is On

:? Odd. A backhanded compliment but apart from saying how Corbyn’s taxes will take an extra five grand off my household (as basic rate taxpayers), making his 5% claim a total lie, I’ve done nothing but bang on about who is best to sort out left behind northern people, so I don’t know where selfishn...
by Lancasterclaret
Thu Nov 28, 2019 7:50 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: General Election Is On
Replies: 5094
Views: 77529

Re: General Election Is On

Both sides are crap but I want my crap side to win so I will only say crap about the other crap side. What an election this is Thats it in a nutshell I wouldn't mind too much if Johnson had to do something to win, but he doesn't have to. All he has to do is mention these things all the time - Brexi...
by Lancasterclaret
Thu Nov 28, 2019 7:41 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: 0-5 v Gillingham and 0-6 v City
Replies: 65
Views: 1719

Re: 0-5 v Gillingham and 0-6 v City

"TAYLOR FOR ENGLAND"

and someone near us bellowing as he knocked in his fifth "FIVE? YOU SHOULD BE GETTING TEN AGAINST THIS LOT"

The Man City game was just shite though, with nothing good or funny about it at all.
by Lancasterclaret
Wed Nov 27, 2019 6:57 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: General Election Is On
Replies: 5094
Views: 77529

Re: General Election Is On

RMutt wrote:Rowls is encouraging what is tantamount to voter fraud in his Vote 'NO' thread.
Yeah, but its Rowls though!

Imagine taking a single word he said seriously!
by Lancasterclaret
Wed Nov 27, 2019 6:56 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: General Election Is On
Replies: 5094
Views: 77529

Re: General Election Is On

claretandy wrote:Trust you to minimise voting fraud.
You are quite fond of throwing allegations around like that, but when anyone calls you what you are, you get all offended

Ok Boomer?
by Lancasterclaret
Wed Nov 27, 2019 10:29 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: General Election Is On
Replies: 5094
Views: 77529

Re: General Election Is On

What does this even mean though ? Surely it’s just more politicking which will be denied with the back and forth ping pong we normally get. Anyway I have checked both Rightmove and Zoopla and I can categorically confirm the NHS is not for sale.. You need to widen your filters! I get what you mean t...
by Lancasterclaret
Wed Nov 27, 2019 10:18 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: General Election Is On
Replies: 5094
Views: 77529

Re: General Election Is On

Labour claiming they have evidence that the NHS is for sale.

If they can back it up, this is the sort of thing that makes people change their vote.

Must be true btw, the right wing twitter accounts are already spinning like mad.

They only do that when they realise there is a risk.
by Lancasterclaret
Wed Nov 27, 2019 10:12 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: General Election Is On
Replies: 5094
Views: 77529

Re: General Election Is On

If you cut 20,000 police officers then employ 20,000 police officers how many more police officers do you have? If you promise to build 200,000 homes under the affordable housing scheme then don't build any how many have you built? If you say you're building 40 new hospitals, but only have the fund...
by Lancasterclaret
Wed Nov 27, 2019 10:10 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: General Election Is On
Replies: 5094
Views: 77529

Re: General Election Is On

If it be your will wrote:Is chucking a frog on a campfire then cackling with glee as its legs shrivelled in a hopeless attempt to escape the embers evil?

I'd rather the Tories had done that than brought in Universal Credit, that's all.
I BET THEY DID THAT AS KIDS AS WELL.
by Lancasterclaret
Wed Nov 27, 2019 9:26 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: General Election Is On
Replies: 5094
Views: 77529

Re: General Election Is On

Not sure if this should be on this thread or the Brexit thread but a plea from trace experts for some realism in the public discourse about the future trade deals.

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by Lancasterclaret
Wed Nov 27, 2019 9:06 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: General Election Is On
Replies: 5094
Views: 77529

Re: General Election Is On

If I was his advisor I would be telling him to do it ASAP for that reason. It is what true leaders do. Whether he is a true leader remains to be seen. I’m about to go and do some work but just wanted to say I agree with the above points on mental health, nurse training etc. In general (I have had s...
by Lancasterclaret
Wed Nov 27, 2019 9:03 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: General Election Is On
Replies: 5094
Views: 77529

Re: General Election Is On

They have actually done a hell of a lot - mainly in developing the NHS Long Term Plan which does a lot of the things I just wrote about, but the social care issue is the sticking point. Theresa May tried to solve it but got panned for the Dementia Tax and had to drop it. Boris is thus rightly too s...
by Lancasterclaret
Wed Nov 27, 2019 8:32 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: General Election Is On
Replies: 5094
Views: 77529

Re: General Election Is On

The big crisis (of many) is in frail elderly, where costs are enormous, lengths of hospital stay are huge, and social care doesn’t have enough provision for them so they stay in beds even after a Section 5 notice has been issued. This then “knocks on” to other patients in terms of bed capacity. Tho...
by Lancasterclaret
Wed Nov 27, 2019 8:30 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: General Election Is On
Replies: 5094
Views: 77529

Re: General Election Is On

Most depressing "Anywhere but Westminister" yet

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by Lancasterclaret
Wed Nov 27, 2019 8:30 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: General Election Is On
Replies: 5094
Views: 77529

Re: General Election Is On

You do know don’t you Lancs that the Tories have been in charge of the NHS for over two thirds of its existence? It has done very well in that time. The demands of an ageing population put huge pressure on an ideology of a low tax, small public sector economy, and no doubts the Tories are wrestling...
by Lancasterclaret
Wed Nov 27, 2019 8:07 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: General Election Is On
Replies: 5094
Views: 77529

Re: General Election Is On

I would say forcing people into poverty needlessly is evil. I would say underfunding the NHS to the point where people are needlessly dying is evil. I would say 17000 people dying whist waiting for their disability benefit as evil. Yeah they are not dropping bombs on people but no doubt Tory polici...
by Lancasterclaret
Wed Nov 27, 2019 7:49 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: General Election Is On
Replies: 5094
Views: 77529

Re: General Election Is On

Okay, a few thoughts now my blood pressure is down. The words 'to a fault' have never been more aptly used than to describe Corbyn, whom I'll still be voting for (and equally, against Johnson) in spite of how much his principles get in the way of more pragmatic politicking like, I dunno', giving a ...
by Lancasterclaret
Tue Nov 26, 2019 5:36 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: General Election Is On
Replies: 5094
Views: 77529

Re: General Election Is On

It's not hard to imagine that a few agents of the media could easily promote the scenario you describe Lancs. I probably know 60 or 70 Labour Party members personally. I'd be honestly amazed if a single one entertained the nasty racist views you mention. So I think for you to suggest the Labour Par...
by Lancasterclaret
Tue Nov 26, 2019 5:33 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: General Election Is On
Replies: 5094
Views: 77529

Re: General Election Is On

PFI is shite, but at least it meant hospitals that we needed got built.

There isn't anything in the past nine years that suggest the Tories can be trusted on the NHS, and where is policy for dealing with the collapse of social care?
by Lancasterclaret
Tue Nov 26, 2019 9:15 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: General Election Is On
Replies: 5094
Views: 77529

Re: General Election Is On

fair enough, so you cant actually tell me why they are worried about Jeremy Corbyn being Prime Minister even though the Labour party have taken actual measures to eliminate antisemitism. For fear of whataboutery, as a member of a minority group (disabled) I am seriously worried if Boris Johnson get...
by Lancasterclaret
Tue Nov 26, 2019 9:03 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Recommendations for a good book....
Replies: 52
Views: 1754

Re: Recommendations for a good book....

Beevor definitely peaked with "Stalingrad" Hasn't done anything remotely as good since. If you are going for Dickens, then the only one I've actually read is "A Tale of Two Cities". I've never got beyond about page 30 of "War and Peace" as well! Anabasis by Xenophon (the tale of the 10,000 Greek mer...
by Lancasterclaret
Tue Nov 26, 2019 8:56 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: General Election Is On
Replies: 5094
Views: 77529

Re: General Election Is On

agreed Why is that? is it actually evidence based or right wing press rhetoric based? I'm not saying the Tories are worse or better, but I am highlighting that they are also wrong. I don't understand why the press are not running Tory racism with the same enthusiasm as they are for the Labour antis...
by Lancasterclaret
Tue Nov 26, 2019 8:54 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: General Election Is On
Replies: 5094
Views: 77529

Re: General Election Is On

In other words, turn yourself into a watered down Tory party with the support of Murdoch and you might stand a chance. Remember Blair was Thatcher's lasting achievement. Take out the word "Blair" from the quote and its 100% inarguable. I'm not even close to being a Blairite, or a Brownite or whatev...
by Lancasterclaret
Tue Nov 26, 2019 8:25 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: General Election Is On
Replies: 5094
Views: 77529

Re: General Election Is On

because its relevant mate. I have seen the Labour Party taking actual action over the Antisemitism issue, albeit "too little too late" for you and others, but I have seen nothing from the Tories in relation to anti-Islamic hatred or their leader using actual racist words. One party is taking actual...
by Lancasterclaret
Tue Nov 26, 2019 8:19 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: General Election Is On
Replies: 5094
Views: 77529

Re: General Election Is On

And here we have the problem

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by Lancasterclaret
Tue Nov 26, 2019 8:14 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: General Election Is On
Replies: 5094
Views: 77529

Re: General Election Is On

I mean, how come Labour can't be doing better against a party whose record and policy claims can be summed up by this genius on twitter "To be fair, 40 fictitious hospitals staffed by 19,000 fictitious nurses is the kind of political offer we've come to expect from the government that delivered 200,...
by Lancasterclaret
Tue Nov 26, 2019 8:12 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: General Election Is On
Replies: 5094
Views: 77529

Re: General Election Is On

Of course it's been inflated by the right wing press, what else are they going to do when they're gifted an opportunity such as this. Why is is too little or too late? They have acted, and as far as I can see they have always acted but because it's not in a specific way to appease the Jewish commun...
by Lancasterclaret
Tue Nov 26, 2019 8:06 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: General Election Is On
Replies: 5094
Views: 77529

Re: General Election Is On

You are too smart to do that Lancaster, where as I agree that the Labour Party is not what we would like it to be, voting for Johnson and his cronies and whet they stand for is unthinkable. I’m no fan of Corbyn and his bunch, but the other lot are worse. Plus Johnson is probably the most dishonest ...
by Lancasterclaret
Tue Nov 26, 2019 7:54 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: General Election Is On
Replies: 5094
Views: 77529

Re: General Election Is On

Do the majority of voters outside of the Jewish community, say in places like Burnley, take note of these stories? I've no idea to be honest. I'm not really looking, as I ago decided that having a Tory government would be worse than a Labour one (but there is not a lot in it, which is itself profou...
by Lancasterclaret
Tue Nov 26, 2019 7:51 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Matej Vydra
Replies: 95
Views: 5848

Re: Matej Vydra

No chance he's ever going to push any of Wood, Jay or Barnes.

But we'd need to replace him

And I think the Kelvin Philips thing isn't going to happen, he's been linked with far bigger budgets than ours.
by Lancasterclaret
Tue Nov 26, 2019 7:42 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: General Election Is On
Replies: 5094
Views: 77529

Re: General Election Is On

I see the mainstream media And their powerful owners have played their trump card... I really do wish society could move forward without relying on stories of Sky Fairies and how you should believe in them or you go to Hell Hang on a sec Rick No doubt this has been inflated by the right wing press,...
by Lancasterclaret
Tue Nov 26, 2019 7:39 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: General Election Is On
Replies: 5094
Views: 77529

Re: General Election Is On

Kate, it wasn't the whole country paying for the banking crisis though was it? We all remember the 'We're all in this together' slogan but we weren't all in it at all. The crisis left a big hole in the public finances which could only be filled by increasing taxation or by cutting public services, ...
by Lancasterclaret
Mon Nov 25, 2019 6:33 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Climate Change is the Single Most Important Issue
Replies: 74
Views: 2975

Re: Climate Change is the Single Most Important Issue

Good luck with getting a couple of selfish generations to change the habits of a lifetime hipper.
by Lancasterclaret
Mon Nov 25, 2019 12:43 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: 350 Million
Replies: 163
Views: 6992

Re: 350 Million

The only reason I voted to leave was because of what was written on the bus! I feel cheated. I wasn't bothered about regaining sovereignty, or our courts being supreme. Nor was I bothered about leaving one of the world's most undemocratic, bureaucratic and corrupt organisations. My only reason was ...
by Lancasterclaret
Mon Nov 25, 2019 12:03 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Dyche to West Ham
Replies: 81
Views: 8421

Re: Dyche to West Ham

ecc wrote:"Dyche doesn't play the West Ham way, no chance."

Not sure West Ham play "the West Ham way", whatever that is.
West ham do play the West ham way, which is why they are **** to be fair
by Lancasterclaret
Mon Nov 25, 2019 8:39 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Dyche to West Ham
Replies: 81
Views: 8421

Re: Dyche to West Ham

He ain’t going to West Ham. The chairmen are odd, the fans impatient...he’ll be sacked as soon as they go on a bad run. The job he’s done with us makes no difference in an era where you cannot overcome your reputation or the general unfashionable perception of British managers. Look at Pulis - did ...
by Lancasterclaret
Mon Nov 25, 2019 8:09 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Dyche to West Ham
Replies: 81
Views: 8421

Re: Dyche to West Ham

Dyche has built his career on not messing around and sticking to the proper way of doing things. He loses that, and he loses a lot that makes him, well, him I'm another btw who can't believe that other, bigger premier league clubs can continue to ignore him, but a West Ham caller on 606 last night w...
by Lancasterclaret
Mon Nov 25, 2019 7:39 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: General Election Is On
Replies: 5094
Views: 77529

Re: General Election Is On

See the Tories have learnt a big lesson from the referendum debate.

Keep it light on detail but high on soundbites.

The voters will lap it up.
by Lancasterclaret
Sat Nov 23, 2019 5:27 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: The difference between hoofball and football
Replies: 18
Views: 1297

Re: The difference between hoofball and football

We give teams a game and they have to work hard to beat us.

I don't give two f**ks what other teams, managers or pundits think about us, and long may it continue!
by Lancasterclaret
Sat Nov 23, 2019 11:38 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: General Election Is On
Replies: 5094
Views: 77529

Re: General Election Is On

Paul Waine wrote:and you want to play the "bad boy" - that's fine. ;)

What is this "laughed in your face" stuff? Where has all this social media angst come from?

Are you at Watford today, Lancs?
Not today.

Away games are a rarity these days due to kids football commitments.
by Lancasterclaret
Sat Nov 23, 2019 9:47 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: General Election Is On
Replies: 5094
Views: 77529

Re: General Election Is On

Worth mentioning again - Leaving the UK with a deal that leads to a hard brexit is divisive - having a policy where we renegotiate another deal and have another referendum is divisive - having another referendum with remain not on the ballot paper is divisive - having another referendum with remain ...
by Lancasterclaret
Sat Nov 23, 2019 9:43 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: General Election Is On
Replies: 5094
Views: 77529

Re: General Election Is On

Paul Waine wrote:Nope, not a clue how LibDems end up where they are.

I've a feeling Jo Swinson is thinking pretty much the same this morning. ;)
And Johnson did well?

And Sturgeon did well?

And Corbyn did well?
by Lancasterclaret
Sat Nov 23, 2019 9:41 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: General Election Is On
Replies: 5094
Views: 77529

Re: General Election Is On

To borrow quotes from a couple of people we saw on tv last night: "That doesn't make you bad." "I have a different opinion and that doesn't make me bad." It was rubbish. Four or five posters instantly laughed in your face. You want to pretend its because we are all lefties and we automatically atta...
by Lancasterclaret
Sat Nov 23, 2019 8:56 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: General Election Is On
Replies: 5094
Views: 77529

Re: General Election Is On

It was excellent btw because it showed the leaders and the audience honed in on their weaknesses. Sturgeon - independence ahead of anything else, with a Conservative esq cavalier attitude to what happens afterwards Corbyn - desperate not to be asked about Brexit, so he was and came across as exactly...
by Lancasterclaret
Sat Nov 23, 2019 8:25 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: General Election Is On
Replies: 5094
Views: 77529

Re: General Election Is On

Turns out the audience was stacked as per Houses of Parliament.

So a grand total of 2 Lib Dems in the room.

So vast majority of audience is Lab or Con.
by Lancasterclaret
Sat Nov 23, 2019 8:15 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: General Election Is On
Replies: 5094
Views: 77529

Re: General Election Is On

I agree, though I know the Tory candidate who is a lifelong local businessman who supports many local charities and public sector bodies. He is a very clever, articulate and decent guy (but lost to O’Mara in 2017 which shows you the mentality of many voters). Ultimately though, Hallam is one of the...
by Lancasterclaret
Sat Nov 23, 2019 8:13 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: General Election Is On
Replies: 5094
Views: 77529

Re: General Election Is On

Well, yes, Jo Swinson answered all the questions - like a teenager called in to the headmistress's office to explain why she'd not done her homework. Or, to give it a football angle: like Pochettino called in to explain the start to the season by Levy. ;) Swinson came across the least experienced o...