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by Claretforever
Sun Jun 16, 2019 10:08 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: How many sellouts last year
Replies: 20
Views: 1603

Re: How many sellouts last year

NL Claret wrote:I went to the boring game at Man U and watched the boring games on tv against Brighton and Chelsea. Oh so boring football :roll:


Did you go to the exciting games at Crystal Palace, Man City, West Ham and Wolves too? :D
by Claretforever
Fri Jun 14, 2019 7:10 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Ticket office frustration
Replies: 19
Views: 1224

Re: Ticket office frustration

I just think you’re grumpy, Gumps. Fans will always gravitate towards he opposition, whether we “grow up” and sit in other areas, as I do, or not. If you think that shouting abuse over a fence is trouble then you’re too you to remember the 80’s. It’s handbags at best.
by Claretforever
Fri Jun 14, 2019 6:26 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Ticket office frustration
Replies: 19
Views: 1224

Re: Ticket office frustration

Isn’t this just a simple case of having another seat swap period for Cricket Field fans for maybe 2-3 days? Saying that, those who aren’t currently near to the dividing fence might get down early and take the seats you want? I’ve no problem with people giving it each other over the fence. A bit of t...
by Claretforever
Sun Jun 09, 2019 12:10 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Centenary Way
Replies: 36
Views: 2568

Re: Centenary Way

FactualFrank wrote:But that's entirely my point.


If you ignore the strategically place mobile cameras, yes. They also know where the mobile cameras should be, but put them when they want them to be.
by Claretforever
Sat Jun 08, 2019 11:21 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Centenary Way
Replies: 36
Views: 2568

Re: Centenary Way

Frank, I’m all all for speed cameras, and encourage more of them in the right places where people are endangering life. The police aren’t daft and know where they should be.
by Claretforever
Sat Jun 08, 2019 11:08 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Centenary Way
Replies: 36
Views: 2568

Re: Centenary Way

Call it what you like. The brother in law is a sergeant and I often challenge him on speed, cameras and annoying 'boy racers'. He is so looking forward to retirement next year and when these conversations crop up, often tells me as he has friends who work in road traffic, that they go off accidents...
by Claretforever
Sat Jun 08, 2019 10:24 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Centenary Way
Replies: 36
Views: 2568

Re: Centenary Way

Speed cameras are fitted where there are the most accidents - not where people speed. It's because as soon as a notice goes up that there's a speed camera ahead, drivers slow down, so they go off the stats of accidents/deaths to determine where they go up. I live off a main road where people genuin...
by Claretforever
Sat Jun 08, 2019 10:48 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Napoli 1967
Replies: 19
Views: 867

Re: Napoli 1967

There was a video of what I thought was the first leg on YouTube a few years ago, and pre-match you could hear our fans chant Harry Thompson’s name to the Trumpet Voluntary wedding tune. I can’t find the thing now.
by Claretforever
Fri Jun 07, 2019 3:53 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Extended home section in cricket field stand
Replies: 205
Views: 8319

Re: Extended home section in cricket field stand

I presume that if they replaced all the wooden seats in the CFS & BL with plastic ones we would be looking at an increase in capacity of around a 1000. I expect it to be a little more difficult in the Bob Lord due to where the exits are, and the number of them. You need access to them so may no...
by Claretforever
Fri Jun 07, 2019 3:46 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Extended home section in cricket field stand
Replies: 205
Views: 8319

Re: Extended home section in cricket field stand

occ-claret wrote:Do we think we'll be changing what is spelt out in the seats in the lower tier. From 'clarets' to........



CARROTS.

That’s what it sounds like when most of our lot sing it at warp speed. :D
by Claretforever
Fri Jun 07, 2019 9:06 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Extended home section in cricket field stand
Replies: 205
Views: 8319

Re: Extended home section in cricket field stand

Just looked at Turf Moor Loyal's photos. Jeez!!!!!! This is becoming alarming! This isn't just a small increase in Burnley seats. We must be talking about a 20% increase in home seat capacity, an extra 300 to 400. Does anyone know the exact figure? We could be talking 1800 to 1900 people all trying...
by Claretforever
Thu Jun 06, 2019 11:26 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Extended home section in cricket field stand
Replies: 205
Views: 8319

Re: Extended home section in cricket field stand

Plastic seats tends to need replacing every 15 years or so anyway, because of fading and wear. I suppose the bottom tiers get the worst of the weather. I really do hope that there is a better plan for the home side of the Cricket Field and Bob Lord rather than just not having bought enough seats. Ra...
by Claretforever
Thu Jun 06, 2019 11:23 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Extended home section in cricket field stand
Replies: 205
Views: 8319

Re: Extended home section in cricket field stand

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by Claretforever
Thu Jun 06, 2019 11:23 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: When did Burnley erect the fences?
Replies: 54
Views: 2658

Re: When did Burnley erect the fences?

I’d image much of the work we did wasn’t in response to single occurrences of hooliganism, but because of the safety at sports Grounds Act 1975, and the Green Code. The green code, for example, advised that home and away fans be segregated, and also each stand be separate so fans could not transfer ...
by Claretforever
Wed Jun 05, 2019 9:30 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: When did Burnley erect the fences?
Replies: 54
Views: 2658

Re: When did Burnley erect the fences?

Burnley v Celtic, September 1978.
by Claretforever
Wed Jun 05, 2019 9:22 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: When did Burnley erect the fences?
Replies: 54
Views: 2658

Re: When did Burnley erect the fences?

Burnley v Derby 1976 and the fence at the front wasn’t there.
by Claretforever
Wed Jun 05, 2019 9:18 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: When did Burnley erect the fences?
Replies: 54
Views: 2658

Re: When did Burnley erect the fences?

1975 team photo. The fence on the Longside was there to separate the fans, and also separating Longside and Bee Hole.
by Claretforever
Sat Jun 01, 2019 10:47 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Pre 1975 Bfc transfer fees
Replies: 18
Views: 1226

Re: Pre 1975 Bfc transfer fees

Potts signed for Everton on 16th October 1950 for £20,000.

Now depending on the dates of other signings then the record at that time was either £26,500 or £30,000. It shows how high that fee actually was.
by Claretforever
Sat Jun 01, 2019 3:32 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Extended home section in cricket field stand
Replies: 205
Views: 8319

Re: Extended home section in cricket field stand

I emailed the clubs ground safety officer on a number of these points over 18 months ago. I’d suggested that as the season was still in full flow, just one visit to the concourse would be needed to see the potential problems that could arise due to the current layout. As a ground safety officer sho...
by Claretforever
Sat Jun 01, 2019 2:05 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Extended home section in cricket field stand
Replies: 205
Views: 8319

Re: Extended home section in cricket field stand

Couple of points there. 1) They've always had slightly larger gates than us, and 2) They flogged cheap season tickets which means they are stuck with charging the same prices in the Championship whilst being desperate for income. It's crippling them! Selling £200 season tickets has left them in a m...
by Claretforever
Sat Jun 01, 2019 1:59 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Extended home section in cricket field stand
Replies: 205
Views: 8319

Re: Extended home section in cricket field stand

Bloody hell. Here we are about to go into our 5th season as a top flight football in 6 years, and we have a 3 page thread of people whinging about the state of the ground! We started to prioritise the ground ahead of the team last time we were at this level for any length of time and it didn’t end ...
by Claretforever
Sat Jun 01, 2019 1:54 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Extended home section in cricket field stand
Replies: 205
Views: 8319

Re: Extended home section in cricket field stand

Are you claiming Rovers didn't build up theit fan base? They went from 8k average to around 28k average in a few years. With 32k gates for the big teams/games. Every team loses fans when you go down but Rovers have around 13k on despite spending years out of the top league. Around 4k more than befo...
by Claretforever
Sat Jun 01, 2019 8:09 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Extended home section in cricket field stand
Replies: 205
Views: 8319

Re: Extended home section in cricket field stand

Our fans fall for the Chairman’s rhetoric when all he does, as the clever businessman he is, is turn a desire for improved stadia and facilities into a discussion around capacity. In other words he dodges the talks for a year or two. Easy. We ask for imorovements, he ignores that bit and says in an ...
by Claretforever
Fri May 31, 2019 9:16 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Extended home section in cricket field stand
Replies: 205
Views: 8319

Re: Extended home section in cricket field stand

I just hope that they don't ever do away with the wooden seats in the Bob Lord - they are leaps and bounds better than that cheap plastic shite You’re right, and I can’t argue with the fact they are of a higher quality than the cheap plastic seats BUT, there are better quality plastic seats, such a...
by Claretforever
Fri May 31, 2019 7:00 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Extended home section in cricket field stand
Replies: 205
Views: 8319

Re: Extended home section in cricket field stand

The thing I’m totally p***ed off about with this recent announcement is that our club still thinks it’s 1985, and that there’s no way of finding out what other clubs are doing, or even why our club are really doing things. This has absolutely NOTHING to do with what our fans are asking for, so to st...
by Claretforever
Thu May 30, 2019 2:18 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: How many prem clubs have we got the clout to take a player off them ?
Replies: 14
Views: 617

Re: How many prem clubs have we got the clout to take a player off them ?

I understand the thought here, on that he means if Burnley and any of the other 19 clubs really wanted a player, then who would we be favourites against. I’d suggest Norwich and Sheffield United right now, but give it a season of them staying up and then we’d be looking at who comes up next year, pr...
by Claretforever
Tue May 28, 2019 5:49 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Season tickets
Replies: 35
Views: 2674

Re: Season tickets

I can’t see how they’ve created enough space for a reasonable sized ticket office and waiting area inside to be honest? When they moved it around the back you could see the plans that we anticipated larger crowds, longer queues, and I thought the idea was to have a reasonable area under cover? So ba...
by Claretforever
Fri May 24, 2019 2:55 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Our best ever away support ?
Replies: 66
Views: 3563

Re: Our best ever away support ?

This thread covered quite a lot of our large ones.

We took over 20,000 to a Ewood Park for an FA Cup quarter final around 1913. That’s probably our largest following anywhere outside neutral venues I’d suggest?

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by Claretforever
Fri May 24, 2019 7:50 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: rovers fans clams re the Orient game
Replies: 46
Views: 3608

Re: rovers fans clams re the Orient game

Rovers fans also think that they were a well run club under John Williams, plus through the Walker years before Venky’s. This dispite losing about £150m during that time despite profits on players. Remember their turnover for many years was £5-20m, including the Tv money. Will there have been a few?...
by Claretforever
Wed May 22, 2019 6:51 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Jonjoe Kenny
Replies: 22
Views: 2972

Re: Jonjoe Kenny

I suppose he has a choice. Does he want to sit on Everton’s bench and play in their under 23’s or does he want to play in our under 23’s?

After Nathanial Chalobah and Jon Flanagan I’ll be surprised if anybody wants to come here on loan. It takes Dyche 12 months to trust players.
by Claretforever
Tue May 21, 2019 11:30 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: New home kit
Replies: 249
Views: 15876

Re: New home kit

Anything half and half reminds me of that lot down the road, and I don’t think it would sell. The material quality used last season was the highest quality we could get, and so the club took an initial hit on margins because of it. I’d imagine sales were up though due to the better look and feel. So...
by Claretforever
Sat May 18, 2019 8:21 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: New home kit
Replies: 249
Views: 15876

Re: New home kit

And yet the total Retail sales for '17/'18 was a mere £1.9m. Surely there must be scope to improve on that figure as a PL club with a little outside of the box thinking. Why are we so against selling our merchandise outside the confines of the club shop? I know. You’d imagine most of the sales were...
by Claretforever
Sat May 18, 2019 7:45 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: New home kit
Replies: 249
Views: 15876

Re: New home kit

claptrappers_union wrote:Global audience doesn’t mean Global Support. I bet we don’t even sell 10,000 shirts annually


We sold close to 30,000 in 2017/18, and it’s usually around 10,000 when we’re in the Championship.
by Claretforever
Wed May 15, 2019 10:14 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Worst song at Turf Moor.
Replies: 66
Views: 2024

Re: Worst song at Turf Moor.

The JWID song has changed for me over time. When our fans first began singing it I saw it more as a ‘The King is Dead, Long Live the King’ kind of thing, but laughing at their current shambllic owners. Over the years it’s become more hatred towards Jack Walker as the numbskull element, who couldn’t ...
by Claretforever
Mon May 13, 2019 8:20 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: The dreaded last four games
Replies: 7
Views: 1434

Re: The dreaded last four games

Its about playing percentages. We played within our needs We should have won yesterday but for stupid passing across the back tactics and McNeil reluctant to go out wide and get crosses in. I really wish our wingers would get some chalk on their boots and push forward when we’re attacking. Our midf...
by Claretforever
Sun May 12, 2019 9:40 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley player scores from his own half 1949
Replies: 25
Views: 1045

Re: Burnley player scores from his own half 1949

Both goals by McLaren were from close in according to Burnley Express, however the Charlton goal in the FA Cup is described as "a rocket shot from as near 40 yards as makes no matter" so I wonder if this is the goal Claretforever's grandad remembers? Could be. He was 13/14 so it could hav...
by Claretforever
Sun May 12, 2019 7:08 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley player scores from his own half 1949
Replies: 25
Views: 1045

Re: Burnley player scores from his own half 1949

ClaretTony wrote:The Burnley Express will have one and it will be on microfilm in the library. If I can remember, I'll look it up next time I'm in there.


Thanks CT. It would be good to find out how accurate the memory of a then 14 year old is some 70 years later.
by Claretforever
Sun May 12, 2019 1:27 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley player scores from his own half 1949
Replies: 25
Views: 1045

Re: Burnley player scores from his own half 1949

Why not contact the Burnley Express? In truth I’m interested, but not really enough to trawl the newspaper archives. I asked on here as there’s a lot of years experience in watching Burnley on here, and thought maybe there was already a reference somewhere. It’s one to look for if I’m ever trawling...
by Claretforever
Sat May 11, 2019 11:18 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley player scores from his own half 1949
Replies: 25
Views: 1045

Re: Burnley player scores from his own half 1949

Peter McKay

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by Claretforever
Sat May 11, 2019 11:03 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley player scores from his own half 1949
Replies: 25
Views: 1045

Re: Burnley player scores from his own half 1949

McKay died in Corby, so must have worked in the stealworks after finishing is playing career. Corby is still like a mini Scotland today after a Scottish steel company built a huge steelworks there in the 1930’s. Not sure of the decade but think the 1950’s weren’t too kind for the Glasgow steel indus...
by Claretforever
Sat May 11, 2019 10:10 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley player scores from his own half 1949
Replies: 25
Views: 1045

Re: Burnley player scores from his own half 1949

Wonderful that people like your Grandad is able to recall games from the 1940's, just after WW2 was a special time for us with a promotion to Division One and of course the FA Cup Final in 1947. Strange circumstances surrounded the time of Andrew McLaren at Burnley. Manager Frank Hill brought him t...
by Claretforever
Sat May 11, 2019 10:06 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley player scores from his own half 1949
Replies: 25
Views: 1045

Re: Burnley player scores from his own half 1949

Can’t tell you anything about the goal but Peter McKay left because of how the manager wanted to play him, or that’s what Jimmy Mac told me. McKay was a prolific goal scorer but when Alan Brown came in he wanted him running the channels. Jimmy said that was no good for McKay so he went back to Scot...
by Claretforever
Sat May 11, 2019 6:29 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley player scores from his own half 1949
Replies: 25
Views: 1045

Burnley player scores from his own half 1949

I’ve just been with my grandad, and when I go around talk usually turns to football and sometimes the olden days. We got talking about players and he was asking what happened to certain players like Peter McKay etc, and it seems when discussing the 1940’s/50’s he can remember matches and goals quite...
by Claretforever
Thu May 09, 2019 2:39 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Lancs FA youth Cup early 90's ... John Mullin etc
Replies: 19
Views: 913

Re: Lancs FA youth Cup early 90's ... John Mullin etc

Quickenthetempo wrote:I sat in the CF end for the game. There were no away fans allowed.


That’s right. You’ve reminded me now, but I was in the Bob Lord. The crowd was about 5,400 though, I’m quite sure.

9,000 v Man United?
by Claretforever
Thu May 09, 2019 2:37 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Songs for Arsenal Sunday
Replies: 21
Views: 1042

Re: Songs for Arsenal Sunday

Soft southern softies
You bunch of soft southern softies
Soft southern so-o-o-fties
You bunch of soft southern softies

When they’re rolling around all game.
by Claretforever
Thu May 09, 2019 8:26 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Lancs FA youth Cup early 90's ... John Mullin etc
Replies: 19
Views: 913

Re: Lancs FA youth Cup early 90's ... John Mullin etc

I remember a Yourh cup game, which I thought was that one, where the announced crowd was 5,400 and something. Away fans (Rovers?) in the Cricket Field stand, and I had to move to the Bob Lord for that game as the CFS was away fans only. Didn’t we play Man United Youth around a similar time and the c...
by Claretforever
Thu May 09, 2019 8:21 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Early FA Cups to be downgraded ...
Replies: 36
Views: 2295

Re: Early FA Cups to be downgraded ...

We know the FA Cup is the FA Cup, but before league football began in 1888 it’s a bit much claiming they’re anything more than amateur cup competitions (they literally were until 1885-86, and only a few teams could afford to pay players anyway, such as Blackburn Rovers who were bankrolled by wealthy...
by Claretforever
Wed May 08, 2019 6:20 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Lancs FA youth Cup early 90's ... John Mullin etc
Replies: 19
Views: 913

Re: Lancs FA youth Cup early 90's ... John Mullin etc

As a point of note, until about 1974 it was actually a normal season first team competition. Blackburn Rovers got their lowest ever crowd when they played Rochdale in 1970 of five hundred and sixty one (561).
by Claretforever
Wed May 08, 2019 6:14 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Lancs FA youth Cup early 90's ... John Mullin etc
Replies: 19
Views: 913

Re: Lancs FA youth Cup early 90's ... John Mullin etc

When it was a first team pre-season tournament we played them quite a bit. In the late 80’s there were a couple of games with around 8-9,000 on, when our normal league gates were closer to 6,000. Like us getting 30,000 on now I suppose.

We drew 1-1 in 1991 with Mike Conroy getting our equaliser.
by Claretforever
Tue May 07, 2019 1:30 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Lady Gaga
Replies: 75
Views: 3761

Re: Lady Gaga

Adele has to be up there. P!nk is also a great singer and performer. Gaga is good though.

Katie Perry? She can’t aing can she?

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