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by Colburn_Claret
Tue Jun 18, 2019 9:47 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Platini detained
Replies: 8
Views: 305

Re: Platini detained

The corruption goes deep and goes back a long way. We are talking millions upon millions of pounds. If it was public money somebody would be jailed for life, but because its 'only' football, it appears to be taken less seriously. If he is found guilty I hope he goes down for a long, long time. If it...
by Colburn_Claret
Tue Jun 18, 2019 8:58 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Laffer Curve....
Replies: 11
Views: 919

Re: Laffer Curve....

Taxation is a necessary evil
It's a very fine line making it fair and what seems fair probably varies, depending on which side of the fine line you sit.

I would say a bigger issue is not how we raise it, but how we spend it.
by Colburn_Claret
Sat Jun 15, 2019 10:42 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: The next Tory Leader..
Replies: 301
Views: 7339

Re: The next Tory Leader..

Here you go https://thinkprogress.org/the-internal-poll-that-donald-trump-said-didnt-exist-was-just-leaked-1bedd00413f1/ If Trump was still adored by those who voted for him (where it mattered) then he wouldn't be under so much water in his own internal polls that he has to lie about their very exi...
by Colburn_Claret
Fri Jun 14, 2019 11:10 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Financial investigation at Northampton
Replies: 11
Views: 1012

Re: Financial investigation at Northampton

bit more background here - post #1399 http://uptheclarets.com/messageboard/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=20891&start=1350 Just read the link and it says part of the investigation is into Northampton South parliamentary party. The Tory MP was born in Burnley......... Now there is nothing to suggest he...
by Colburn_Claret
Fri Jun 14, 2019 12:15 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: The next Tory Leader..
Replies: 301
Views: 7339

Re: The next Tory Leader..

But beware of Boris and what he says about his success as London Mayor. He wasted millions on vanity projects that have no added worth, such as the cable car and new route master buses. I'm not a Boris fan, and accept he could be a crap PM. That wasnt the point. It's the idea that anyone, whoever m...
by Colburn_Claret
Thu Jun 13, 2019 11:04 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: The next Tory Leader..
Replies: 301
Views: 7339

Re: The next Tory Leader..

:lol: you've got no ******* clue. You're the one in need of a mirror. You decide what you dont like or who you dont like, then look for any evidence you can find to convince yourself you're right. You're incapable of looking at any topic objectively, because once you've picked your horse, nothing i...
by Colburn_Claret
Thu Jun 13, 2019 10:59 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: The next Tory Leader..
Replies: 301
Views: 7339

Re: The next Tory Leader..

Well the people who elected him are more than happy but that is a lot different to "You dont hear people across the water complaining about Trump" I've heard plenty complain when I've been out there. A bit like Brexit, the only ones complaining are the ones who lost. He made promises to t...
by Colburn_Claret
Thu Jun 13, 2019 8:08 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: The next Tory Leader..
Replies: 301
Views: 7339

Re: The next Tory Leader..

If only there were some kind of reference point we could use for the consequences of allowing an incoherent, racist, straw-headed, misogynist buffoon to run a country. You dont hear people across the water complaining about Trump. Hes everything you state, but the people who elected him are more th...
by Colburn_Claret
Thu Jun 13, 2019 7:55 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Wolves in for Tarkowski
Replies: 235
Views: 15132

Re: Wolves in for Tarkowski

MDWat wrote:Daily Mirror journalist on twitter suggesting we are close to agreeing a fee, but want a replacement first.

I cant believe that, unless Tarks has expressed a desire to go. We dont need the money, no matter how much they offer us. The only reason to lose him is if he would be upset by staying.
by Colburn_Claret
Thu Jun 13, 2019 1:54 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: The next Tory Leader..
Replies: 301
Views: 7339

Re: The next Tory Leader..

Hang on a sec. Drugs are another no/no if you are going to be PM (not my opinion by the way, but if you are going to ban teachers for taking cocaine (ie Gove) then you can't be PM as well (Johnson has taken it as well) So a question that was offensive to a minority of UK citizens (and he was) then ...
by Colburn_Claret
Thu Jun 13, 2019 1:00 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: The next Tory Leader..
Replies: 301
Views: 7339

Re: The next Tory Leader..

You do know he's never apologised for it, and he didn't yesterday either. Now why do you think that is? Maybe he thinks that he was so young when he did it that it isn't necessary to apologise. Most people have made mistakes in their lives, you don't go around apologising for them for the rest of y...
by Colburn_Claret
Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:41 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: The next Tory Leader..
Replies: 301
Views: 7339

Re: The next Tory Leader..

He's going to be PM. Of course the question was relevant. How? The question was raised and answered years ago, does the journalist think the answer has changed over the years........It was relevant then, not now. If some people think that they don't want a PM who has admitted to past demeanours, th...
by Colburn_Claret
Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:32 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: The next Tory Leader..
Replies: 301
Views: 7339

Re: The next Tory Leader..

A journalist did ask about it. The response was for Johnson to ignore it and MPs to boo the journalist. What a standard of political discourse we've reached. If it was news you'd have a point. The fact is it's old news and the question was asked purely to stir the shite. Poor journalism deserves bo...
by Colburn_Claret
Wed Jun 12, 2019 12:16 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Another murderer released
Replies: 169
Views: 2702

Re: Another murderer released

The price we pay for being run by intellectuals, rather than people with common sense.
by Colburn_Claret
Tue Jun 11, 2019 5:08 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: The next Labour leader
Replies: 56
Views: 1840

Re: The next Labour leader

I think given when you voted for Labour, it could be described as “against a Tory Party that was all over the place” Unless the Iraq War played a part in why you didn’t vote Labour in 2005, or Labour was too rightwing for you before Corbyn (as it was for me), then I’d imagine Labour will have to fi...
by Colburn_Claret
Tue Jun 11, 2019 3:28 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: New handball rule. Could it be bad news for Burnley?
Replies: 23
Views: 1213

Re: New handball rule. Could it be bad news for Burnley?

I think it benefits us. As long as the rule had a grey area it will always be used to the advantage of the bigger teams. Now it is black and white, or should be, then Burnley are likely to get more penalties. We dont get the benefit that often when in our own area, so although we might concede a cou...
by Colburn_Claret
Mon Jun 10, 2019 8:46 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Vettel time penalty
Replies: 50
Views: 1795

Re: Vettel time penalty

You notice the sharp turn to the right on the steering wheel as he rejoins the circuit, to ensure his car goes into the path of Hamilton. That is not oversteer because he should have come off the power. In my opinion it is a deliberate move to prevent Hamilton passing him, cynical by Vettel and he ...
by Colburn_Claret
Sat Jun 08, 2019 12:48 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Napoli 1967
Replies: 19
Views: 876

Re: Napoli 1967

Leisure wrote:I remember being stood on the Kop at Blackpool the Saturday following this game when Harry saved a penalty at our end.

Soon after I was at Blackpool v Chelsea, with Harry in goal for Blackpool.
by Colburn_Claret
Sat Jun 08, 2019 12:38 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: 'Rooney rule' adopted by the EFL
Replies: 50
Views: 1947

Re: 'Rooney rule' adopted by the EFL

If I was coloured, I would feel insulted to think I was only being interviewed because of the colour of my skin. It isnt quite positive discrimination but nearly as bad. How to solve the problem, if there is one. Really its society's problem, and until that is resolved moves like this are a) *******...
by Colburn_Claret
Thu Jun 06, 2019 7:21 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Besart Berisha
Replies: 21
Views: 2900

Re: Besart Berisha

I watched the England game and Besart looked a class act.I always liked Dimi Pap.Dimi was never given a chance at Burnley.The manager at the time Stan ,was very hard to get on with for some and he appeared to restrict Dimis games.Playing for Greece and long absences after travelling to play for Gre...
by Colburn_Claret
Mon Jun 03, 2019 4:59 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Vydra speaks again
Replies: 50
Views: 4676

Re: Vydra speaks again

If we get the right midfielder, he will get a lot more opportunities next season. IF.........
by Colburn_Claret
Mon Jun 03, 2019 11:59 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Unions at work
Replies: 37
Views: 1295

Re: Unions at work

Always join a union if possible. The legal advice alone is worthwhile. It's amazing what representation offers you, most employers HR departments and managements are pretty lax when it comes to the law. They could think they have you bang to rights but a good shop steward/area manager will just make...
by Colburn_Claret
Wed May 29, 2019 1:41 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Alistair Campbell expelled from the Labour Party
Replies: 113
Views: 4190

Re: Alistair Campbell expelled from the Labour Party

Brexiter: The economy is very delicate and we have to respect big businesses. Don’t raise corporation tax by a couple of percentage points because you might scare them all off. That crazy commie Corbyn will destroy the economy! Also Brexiter: Leaving the EU with no deal is perfectly fine. Falling o...
by Colburn_Claret
Wed May 29, 2019 1:31 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Alistair Campbell expelled from the Labour Party
Replies: 113
Views: 4190

Re: Alistair Campbell expelled from the Labour Party

You are aware the Greens were anti-EU in their 2005, 2010, and 2015 manifestos? Just like the Lib Dems, they fully supported the EU referendum in 2015, saying on p71 of their manifesto: we prioritise local self-reliance rather than the EU’s unsustainable economics of free trade and growth...We supp...
by Colburn_Claret
Tue May 28, 2019 7:51 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Alistair Campbell expelled from the Labour Party
Replies: 113
Views: 4190

Re: Alistair Campbell expelled from the Labour Party

boatshed bill wrote:They could hardly screw them more than the current tories have ;)

If you believe that then you are very young
by Colburn_Claret
Tue May 28, 2019 7:47 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Alistair Campbell expelled from the Labour Party
Replies: 113
Views: 4190

Re: Alistair Campbell expelled from the Labour Party

Give me an example of a policy where Labour supporters feel the party is too far to the left and needs to be closer to the middle ground. I'm not suggesting austerity is good because it isnt, but sometimes it's necessary. To start chucking money around improve the NHS, renationalise the railways et...
by Colburn_Claret
Tue May 28, 2019 5:14 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Alistair Campbell expelled from the Labour Party
Replies: 113
Views: 4190

Re: Alistair Campbell expelled from the Labour Party

If they are ‘centrist leaning’ and scared of Corbyn then they aren’t staunch socialists. As for the thread subject, even if Campbell wasn’t a right-wing spin merchant, openly and very publicly declaring that one voted for a rival party is enough to get anyone suspended. I'm not blaming them for exp...
by Colburn_Claret
Tue May 28, 2019 1:21 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: EU Election Results 2019 ... Burnley
Replies: 44
Views: 2521

Re: EU Election Results 2019 ... Burnley

The Burnley results are reflective of a town the is very pro leave and supportive of a hard Brexit. What it also demonstrates is what the vote across the UK could have looked like had Farage and No Deal really got the public's backing they claim. Reassuringly across the wider spectrum the pro remai...
by Colburn_Claret
Tue May 28, 2019 12:45 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Alistair Campbell expelled from the Labour Party
Replies: 113
Views: 4190

Re: Alistair Campbell expelled from the Labour Party

The Labour party is really unelectable. I know so many staunch, dyed in the wool socialists who have said they could never vote for them again whilst Corbyn and momentum are pulling the strings. Expelling Campbell will just push even more centrist leaning Labour voters to desert the party. Oblivion ...
by Colburn_Claret
Tue May 28, 2019 12:39 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: European Election Results .. due from 10 p.m. Sunday night...,
Replies: 501
Views: 8886

Re: European Election Results .. due from 10 p.m. Sunday night...,

You're still conveniently missing the point (or more likely ignoring it) that there was really only one "leave" option - Brexit Party, (ok +UKip), but multiple remain options on the ballot paper. Why have you singled out the Lib Dems?. They were only one of 5 parties with an unequivocal &...
by Colburn_Claret
Tue May 28, 2019 9:51 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: European Election Results .. due from 10 p.m. Sunday night...,
Replies: 501
Views: 8886

Re: European Election Results .. due from 10 p.m. Sunday night...,

If any lessons have been learned from the last 3 years then any further referendum will be hopefully much more of an informed decision about the options - and probably more specific. ! This is the point though after 3 years of having it rammed down our throats that we made a mistake, 3 years of tel...
by Colburn_Claret
Mon May 27, 2019 1:37 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: European Election Results .. due from 10 p.m. Sunday night...,
Replies: 501
Views: 8886

Re: European Election Results .. due from 10 p.m. Sunday night...,

Heavy industry has been on its pants since the seventies... it is why a Thatcher killed most off, and not one pm since has had the backbone to look too closely at the outside investment asset stripping that leaves the country far poorer and time has proved over and over does not safeguard jobs for ...
by Colburn_Claret
Mon May 27, 2019 1:14 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: European Election Results .. due from 10 p.m. Sunday night...,
Replies: 501
Views: 8886

Re: European Election Results .. due from 10 p.m. Sunday night...,

Seriously you really do need to go back to school and study something. The EE vote does not clearly show “we still want to leave” I know let’s try a little maths test just for you. What percentage of the electorate voted for the Brexit party in the Euro elections ? I’ll make it easier with multiple...
by Colburn_Claret
Mon May 27, 2019 12:31 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: European Election Results .. due from 10 p.m. Sunday night...,
Replies: 501
Views: 8886

Re: European Election Results .. due from 10 p.m. Sunday night...,

Of f-uck it - you’ve clearly just proved beyond all doubt on this thread that you are an idiot. I don’t know whether you are an honest or undemocratic one though. Don’t apply for a job at the National Statistics Office though eh - not until you and Diane Abbott have retaken your 11 plus. I passed m...
by Colburn_Claret
Mon May 27, 2019 12:18 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: European Election Results .. due from 10 p.m. Sunday night...,
Replies: 501
Views: 8886

Re: European Election Results .. due from 10 p.m. Sunday night...,

Cheers - i’ll ignore your childish idiot comment but what exactly is undemocratic about holding a second referendum ? Are you struggling to understand that the second referendum would be just as democratic as the first one ? If what you are actually trying to say is that you don’t think it’s fair o...
by Colburn_Claret
Mon May 27, 2019 12:05 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: European Election Results .. due from 10 p.m. Sunday night...,
Replies: 501
Views: 8886

Re: European Election Results .. due from 10 p.m. Sunday night...,

A lot of posts on the last page only serve to highlight the flawed nature of referendums in a parliamentary democracy such as ours. A referendum can deliver a slight victory, one way or the other, but ultimately it's all about numbers in Parliament. If the marginal winner doesn't have the seats, th...
by Colburn_Claret
Mon May 27, 2019 11:37 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: European Election Results .. due from 10 p.m. Sunday night...,
Replies: 501
Views: 8886

Re: European Election Results .. due from 10 p.m. Sunday night...,

Neither am I, but at the same time I'm not happy with pretending that democracy isn't fluid and that people are not allowed to change their mind, especially in the light of new information. You haven't changed your mind though Lancs, you've been moaning since the day after the referendum. And inspi...
by Colburn_Claret
Mon May 27, 2019 11:34 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: European Election Results .. due from 10 p.m. Sunday night...,
Replies: 501
Views: 8886

Re: European Election Results .. due from 10 p.m. Sunday night...,

Of course remainers want a second referendum. If leavers would have lost the first referendum they’d want a second one aswell....just like the Scottish people who want independence have been desperate for the chance to vote again. Is it fair ? Probably not but it wasn’t particularly fair to hold th...
by Colburn_Claret
Mon May 27, 2019 10:56 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: European Election Results .. due from 10 p.m. Sunday night...,
Replies: 501
Views: 8886

Re: European Election Results .. due from 10 p.m. Sunday night...,

If a party won a general election on that ticket, what would be the problem? They will have been given a mandate from the public to do that. It's how things ought to be done in a parliamentary democracy such as ours. It's more complicated than that. The GE is generally won with anywhere near 40% of...
by Colburn_Claret
Mon May 27, 2019 9:39 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 9536
Views: 125236

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

I’m not confident that, if things do go badly, leave supporters won’t still just blame the EU. That is true. It all depends on who is in charge of negotiations and how good the team is selling Britain to the rest of the world. IF they make a mess of it, I for one wont be blaming the EU. Getting out...
by Colburn_Claret
Sun May 26, 2019 9:14 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 9536
Views: 125236

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

1. A tumbling currency 2. Checks at the border, causing delays, turning the M20 into a lorry park in a matter of hours 3. Shortage of goods we import such as food, medicines, nuclear material etc 4. Price increases due to the shortage of goods and the weakness of the pound They're just the immediat...
by Colburn_Claret
Sun May 26, 2019 7:06 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 9536
Views: 125236

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

I was replying to your post where you were championing a no deal scenario, and I'm referring to the days immediately after we've left the EU with no deal. That will be the dire situation that will get worse by the day. That's when we will be absolutely desperate and in need of support, and that's w...
by Colburn_Claret
Sun May 26, 2019 1:30 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: The next Tory Leader..
Replies: 301
Views: 7339

Re: The next Tory Leader..

Why? After 3 years you still dont know why? Without the sovereignty to make whatever decisions we think are good for us, we can never be great. If the EU has to rubber stamp our domestic policies, our foreign policies, our trade agreements, our labour laws, our economic direction.......They do what...
by Colburn_Claret
Sun May 26, 2019 12:57 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: The next Tory Leader..
Replies: 301
Views: 7339

Re: The next Tory Leader..

First line assumes none of us have ever read your posts before Second line completely agree with Third line is you to a tee sadly. I have never claimed that leaving the EU makes Britain a better place, only that we are better off out of it. Then it's up to us. If we keep selecting arseholes as MPs ...
by Colburn_Claret
Sun May 26, 2019 12:52 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 9536
Views: 125236

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

And a couple of weeks after that, with the dire situation getting worse by the day, we'll be back at the negotiating table desperate for assistance from the EU. They will demand, before anything else is discussed, a resolution to the Irish border, the financial settlement and citizens rights. The t...
by Colburn_Claret
Sun May 26, 2019 12:50 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 9536
Views: 125236

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

And a couple of weeks after that, with the dire situation getting worse by the day, we'll be back at the negotiating table desperate for assistance from the EU. They will demand, before anything else is discussed, a resolution to the Irish border, the financial settlement and citizens rights. The t...
by Colburn_Claret
Sun May 26, 2019 12:48 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: The next Tory Leader..
Replies: 301
Views: 7339

Re: The next Tory Leader..

Brexit won't solve any of that. But you know that, and we know you know that, so why you keep saying it is more than a bit weird. Where did I claim Brexit would solve it. It's up to us, in or out of the EU, to create that. We do that by the people we send to Westminster, and they have to be better ...
by Colburn_Claret
Sun May 26, 2019 11:17 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 9536
Views: 125236

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

Not sure we will get kicked out. And if we do, its because we've insisted on something we know we can't get to try to get us kicked out. Course, the level of debate about this suggests that even if that is very obvious what we do, the EU will still get blamed. There's no blame, the EU are entitled ...
by Colburn_Claret
Sun May 26, 2019 11:13 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 9536
Views: 125236

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

AndrewJB wrote:That's a conversation we should have had before the referendum, but as we didn't, we have to have it now. The referendum was only about leaving the EU, and not about how.

Spoken like a true Remainer
by Colburn_Claret
Sat May 25, 2019 5:36 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Tranmere v Newport
Replies: 34
Views: 1795

Re: Tranmere v Newport

Big congratulations to Micky Mellon, it had penalties written all over it. Don't you just love football.

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