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by nil_desperandum
Tue Jun 25, 2019 10:32 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Boris or Hunt you have to pick one
Replies: 105
Views: 2470

Re: Boris or Hunt you have to pick one

I would expect you to side with Corbyn What a bizarre post. You only need to look at my posting history to see that I'm no fan of Corbyn. Even in the post that you are replying to I'm extremely uncomplimentary towards him, and I've consistently called him out for his incompetence, lack of political...
by nil_desperandum
Tue Jun 25, 2019 10:18 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Reginald Bosanquet
Replies: 10
Views: 1440

Re: Reginald Bosanquet

Random - but interesting fact. (remebered it from my school days)
His father Bernard was an England cricketer and is credited with having "invented" the googly, hence its other name the "Bosie" (or "Bosey")
by nil_desperandum
Mon Jun 24, 2019 11:00 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 9693
Views: 132646

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

dsr wrote:I wasn't saying thay Labour could only go for May's deal or Remain. .

That's exactly what you actually said :roll:
by nil_desperandum
Mon Jun 24, 2019 10:59 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 9693
Views: 132646

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

dsr wrote: Presumably the idea is that Parliament would pass it because Labour MPs would treat it as their own scheme?

Doh! That's because it's been THEIR policy for a long time, (and as you know there would - even now - be sufficient numbers to get it through parliament)
by nil_desperandum
Mon Jun 24, 2019 10:52 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 9693
Views: 132646

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

You mean the idea is that May drove too hard a bargain and they want to give the EU more than they asked for? That point is irrelevant to what you said. You can put forward that argument, and many will agree, but I was responding to your post in which you said that Labour could only go for May's de...
by nil_desperandum
Mon Jun 24, 2019 10:44 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: What's the deal (rules) with goal kicks?
Replies: 20
Views: 1233

Re: What's the deal (rules) with goal kicks?

Ashingtonclaret46 wrote:An interesting one with VAR being introduced is the fact that a player will be cautioned for removing their shirt after scoring a goal ---even if the goal is subsequently disallowed by VAR.

Surely the offence is removing one's shirt irrespective of what the reason, so the VAR thing is irrelevant.
by nil_desperandum
Mon Jun 24, 2019 10:32 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 9693
Views: 132646

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

That's a big assumption. Why would they? Under Corbyn, there are only two possible options - May's deal, or Remain. Probably May's deal. May's deal would be in many ways the best option for them - why would they renegotiate with anyone who says that they will sign any deal that the EU cares to offe...
by nil_desperandum
Mon Jun 24, 2019 6:56 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Boris or Hunt you have to pick one
Replies: 105
Views: 2470

Re: Boris or Hunt you have to pick one

Out of those 2 Boris every time. Johnson will destroy Corbyn every time where as Hunt may lose 2 or 3 times in 10. Keeping Corbyn the biggest danger and his cronies out should be the main focus for everybody. Couldn't disagree more, and those who have worked with Johnson would agree with me. Johnso...
by nil_desperandum
Sun Jun 23, 2019 2:13 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 9693
Views: 132646

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

taio wrote:Temporarily or deferring A50 would be no issue to me. I recall both you and I said that would and needed to happen re March this year months prior

Thanks.
Obviously we are both rather more consistent and pragmatic than Ms Flint.
by nil_desperandum
Sun Jun 23, 2019 1:55 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 9693
Views: 132646

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

I said I don't have a problem with a referendum. I said a manifesto sets out a vast range of policy intentions. Any further democratic ought to be on the single issue of Brexit ie a referendum. What's wrong with that? Yes, and I agree - we've been here before.(i.e had this very discussion). My poin...
by nil_desperandum
Sun Jun 23, 2019 1:03 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 9693
Views: 132646

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

I didn't watch it. No deal isn't what I want as a remainer. But revoking A50 would be worse...don't you agree. Actually. i don't agree at all. If we are forced to revoke article 50 (due to lack of credible options), we can revisit the EU situation in the period ahead, and we can - if we wish - plan...
by nil_desperandum
Sun Jun 23, 2019 10:55 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 9693
Views: 132646

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

If she said that then she's absolutely correct. Incredible the amount of people who have said otherwise. Would be a total failure of democracy- the worst of all options. Yes, but it was totally inconsistent with what she had said throughout the interview in which she had said that a no deal would b...
by nil_desperandum
Sun Jun 23, 2019 10:54 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 9693
Views: 132646

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

Labour MP Caroline Flint has just told Marr that she would rather leave with No Deal than revoke article 50. Yes. I'm sure most of us picked up on that. It was totally inconsistent with everything else she had said in the interview. Her only motivation seems to be to pacify a noisy leave element in...
by nil_desperandum
Sat Jun 22, 2019 6:49 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Best Clarets Individual Goal On The Turf?
Replies: 60
Views: 1454

Re: Best Clarets Individual Goal On The Turf?

Buxtonclaret wrote:Another for Hoskin.

You mean the one that he scored in an away game?? :roll:
by nil_desperandum
Thu Jun 20, 2019 5:45 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: C4 Conservative leader debate
Replies: 534
Views: 8354

Re: C4 Conservative leader debate

I don't know if you honestly believe that that 26 billion will be spent revitalising northern towns or not. Seems odd considering that hasn't happened in the last 40 odd years of membership! . Of course it won't, and that's the basis of my point. The UK has prospered during its time in the EU, but ...
by nil_desperandum
Thu Jun 20, 2019 4:24 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: C4 Conservative leader debate
Replies: 534
Views: 8354

Re: C4 Conservative leader debate

Rubbish. Politicians and metropolitan elite ignoring the legitimate concerns of ordinary people for ages are to blame. For example calling people racist for being concerned about too much immigration. The people got a chance to protest and boy did they. The irony and the obvious flaw in what you've...
by nil_desperandum
Thu Jun 20, 2019 2:12 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: C4 Conservative leader debate
Replies: 534
Views: 8354

Re: C4 Conservative leader debate

Lancasterclaret wrote:The two spoilt ballot papers will be two people writing "It doesn't matter, we are ****** whatever we do"

More than likely Rory Stewart and Boris Johnson, who on this occasion was forced to fill in the ballot sheet himself,(rather than a proxy) and cocked it up. :D
by nil_desperandum
Thu Jun 20, 2019 1:31 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: C4 Conservative leader debate
Replies: 534
Views: 8354

Re: C4 Conservative leader debate

No doubt in my mind now that team Johnson has more than enough votes and that they will be encouraging about 20 of them to switch to Hunt to ensure that Gove is eliminated. The last thing that Johnson wants is to have to debate with his nemesis Gove over the next few weeks . And of course Gove is al...
by nil_desperandum
Thu Jun 20, 2019 11:21 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: C4 Conservative leader debate
Replies: 534
Views: 8354

Re: C4 Conservative leader debate

I think he's making that point as well. And he's wrong. In Tuesday's vote, anyone who got 32 votes stayed in the contest; anyone who got 31 or less was out. Raab needed 32 votes to stay in. It didn't matter if Stewart got 5 votes or 200 votes, Raab needed 32. From Wednesday, it's lowest scorer is o...
by nil_desperandum
Thu Jun 20, 2019 8:08 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: C4 Conservative leader debate
Replies: 534
Views: 8354

Re: C4 Conservative leader debate

AndyClaret wrote:I think the point he's making is what if Raab got 34 ,and Stewart got 35, then raab would have been out.

I wonder what the rules would have been had they both got 34? (I'm guessing that they would have both been out?)
by nil_desperandum
Thu Jun 20, 2019 8:05 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: C4 Conservative leader debate
Replies: 534
Views: 8354

Re: C4 Conservative leader debate

One more time, it wasn't that Raab got the fewest votes that saw him knocked out, it was because he received fewer than 10% of the votes. If Stewart had also received fewer than 10% then they'd have both been knocked out. The next round of voting is when they start eliminating the person with the f...
by nil_desperandum
Wed Jun 19, 2019 11:54 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: C4 Conservative leader debate
Replies: 534
Views: 8354

Re: C4 Conservative leader debate

Raab was knocked out because he didn't get 32 votes. If joe Bloggs MP would have liked to vote for Boris but voted instead for Stewart, how would that have contributed to Raab getting less than 32 votes? That's stating the obvious, but in advance of the vote how could anyone know that Raab would fa...
by nil_desperandum
Wed Jun 19, 2019 11:28 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: C4 Conservative leader debate
Replies: 534
Views: 8354

Re: C4 Conservative leader debate

I don't know, these remoaners who vote Tory once in their life and think they are qualified to add to this debate. Is there anything that they would just shut up about? Hopefully the Tories regard everyone as potential voters, so they need to try to reach out to all 4 corners of the UK, and to all ...
by nil_desperandum
Wed Jun 19, 2019 9:31 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Wolves Europa league draw!
Replies: 31
Views: 2788

Re: Wolves Europa league draw!

Losing to Crusaders or a team from the Faroes would have been another cup embarrassment for us I'm afraid.
by nil_desperandum
Wed Jun 19, 2019 7:16 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: C4 Conservative leader debate
Replies: 534
Views: 8354

Re: C4 Conservative leader debate

Only 1 winner imo - a mandate for a free trade deal. What free trade deal would that be, and who with? It's been proved that Johnson was talking rubbish, wrong or lying last night when he was waffling about tariff free trade over the Irish Border, as it contravenes rules. "He said there would ...
by nil_desperandum
Wed Jun 19, 2019 7:07 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: C4 Conservative leader debate
Replies: 534
Views: 8354

Re: C4 Conservative leader debate

Big cheer when Rory's vote announced from me. He just wanted May's **** deal and had no idea how to get it passed. That's another none believer out and just 2 more to dump. You may not have agreed with him, but he actually had the only realistic plan to get the UK out of the EU this year, and if yo...
by nil_desperandum
Wed Jun 19, 2019 4:56 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 9693
Views: 132646

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

I have to admit to thinking the same as dsr on this one. When you get to the age where retirement is looming, then you really have to seize the chances you have. Course, we'd all rather you thought slightly more about the future in things like voting but hey, people have earned the right to make th...
by nil_desperandum
Wed Jun 19, 2019 3:16 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: London again
Replies: 192
Views: 5270

Re: London again

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:Interesting comparison, those on here defending this are no better than racists or football hooligans

Has anyone on here actually defended the perpetrators of knife crime? I'll be very surprised if they have.
by nil_desperandum
Wed Jun 19, 2019 2:13 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 9693
Views: 132646

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

New PMs strategy should be: Go all out for a no deal exit then one week before the end of October DEMAND that the 27 EU leaders put a five year expiry date on the backstop. The ball will then be in their court and I suspect that they choose the latter which will then be passed by parliament. Apart ...
by nil_desperandum
Wed Jun 19, 2019 9:22 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: C4 Conservative leader debate
Replies: 534
Views: 8354

Re: C4 Conservative leader debate

Anyway, back to the contest.
Another round today.
If I were a Raab supporter, I think I'd be voting for Javid today in order to try to eliminate Stewart, since he is the one diametrically opposed to their vision. They can swap to one of the others once Stewart's gone.
by nil_desperandum
Wed Jun 19, 2019 9:09 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: C4 Conservative leader debate
Replies: 534
Views: 8354

Re: C4 Conservative leader debate

The reason why it's always one of labour or Tory is because they've got that core voters who're so effing blinkered they won't budge, FPTP would probably work better if people actually looked away from these two parties, but they can't/won't so we are stuck with these cretins. There are plenty of p...
by nil_desperandum
Tue Jun 18, 2019 10:05 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: C4 Conservative leader debate
Replies: 534
Views: 8354

Re: C4 Conservative leader debate

Boris is very unpredictable and that's is something we need in a leader at this present time. Could you give but one reasoned answer as to how being unpredictable could possibly be a good thing at this time in our history? Just imagine having him leading crucial negotiations on our behalf if as you...
by nil_desperandum
Tue Jun 18, 2019 8:37 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: C4 Conservative leader debate
Replies: 534
Views: 8354

Re: C4 Conservative leader debate

jrgbfc wrote:Yeah but apart from all that what has he ever lied about? :lol:

You'd have to ask his ex-wife, partners and children, I guess.
by nil_desperandum
Tue Jun 18, 2019 8:25 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: C4 Conservative leader debate
Replies: 534
Views: 8354

Re: C4 Conservative leader debate

There seems a lot of talk about Boris not keeping his promises, but I have to say, apart from having a chaotic personal life and being secretive about it, I struggle to recall much in recent years to back up these accusations. Rather difficult for him to have broken promises to the public in recent...
by nil_desperandum
Tue Jun 18, 2019 6:33 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: London again
Replies: 192
Views: 5270

Re: London again

I'll expand my answer for you, it's probably easier... Immigration - I'm referring to the undesirable types, they don't **** about when it comes to crime, dealing with people who cross them and getting youngsters involved etc. As for jobs, the youngsters don't want to work in certain places, but th...
by nil_desperandum
Tue Jun 18, 2019 6:29 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: London again
Replies: 192
Views: 5270

Re: London again

Clearly ABOUT AUSTERITY what a load of nonsense.Take a look at the video do those kids look poor.Well OK a couple of them maybe do not have Samsung S10 yet but no doubt they will be working on acquiring one. I don't think you're really following this thread or topic, or maybe you choose to delibera...
by nil_desperandum
Tue Jun 18, 2019 6:16 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: C4 Conservative leader debate
Replies: 534
Views: 8354

Re: C4 Conservative leader debate

Lancasterclaret wrote:Raab out

Somehow the most Brexity Brexity candidate is out already.

I think that that honour fell to Esther McVey, but she was the very first out.
Maybe WTO / no deal brexit isn't so attractive to Tory MPs afterall.
by nil_desperandum
Tue Jun 18, 2019 6:13 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: C4 Conservative leader debate
Replies: 534
Views: 8354

Re: C4 Conservative leader debate

Team Boris won't be delighted that Stewart got through by the skin of his teeth and will be there to debate with Johnson this evening.
If Javid withdraws before the next round then we could see Stewart rising into 2nd place
by nil_desperandum
Tue Jun 18, 2019 4:56 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: London again
Replies: 192
Views: 5270

Re: London again

claretonthecoast1882 wrote::D :D which Londoners have confirmed this to you ?

Those who take part in surveys, the London papers, available data / statistics etc.etc.
I think you'd be hard pressed to find statistics / data that contradict this.
(I didn't, incidentally, disagree with the rest of the post that Sidney posted).
by nil_desperandum
Tue Jun 18, 2019 4:47 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: London again
Replies: 192
Views: 5270

Re: London again

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:Influx of immigrants, lack of jobs for people etc.

.

In London? Really?
Highest number of people in employment rate In london ever, and lowest unemployment.
Immigration, - definitely not an issue for "Londoners", even if those outside the capital think that it is.
by nil_desperandum
Tue Jun 18, 2019 4:38 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 9693
Views: 132646

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

The EU are already changing aren't they? Irish border had to be hard apparently but reports are they're looking at tech to avoid it.... That's not a change. They've said all long that they won't accept a hard border. If we go for a "no deal" brexit (no customs union) then there will have ...
by nil_desperandum
Tue Jun 18, 2019 3:56 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: C4 Conservative leader debate
Replies: 534
Views: 8354

Re: C4 Conservative leader debate

Personally if I was strongly pro-Brexit I wouldn't be that keen on Johnson getting the leadership. Most of the others are ideologically driven to get out of the EU but I think most would agree that Johnson's ideology is himself first and the rest of it down the list. He's the candidate I see as mos...
by nil_desperandum
Tue Jun 18, 2019 3:52 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: C4 Conservative leader debate
Replies: 534
Views: 8354

Re: C4 Conservative leader debate

Who is everyone's guess to go today,looks like Raab is a dead man walking to me,abysmal performance the other day. It will be unbelievable if Raab reaches 33 votes after his performances this week, and I think Sajid Javid might get squeezed out by "one nation" Conservatives, who want to e...
by nil_desperandum
Mon Jun 17, 2019 2:58 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: C4 Conservative leader debate
Replies: 534
Views: 8354

Re: C4 Conservative leader debate

The debates were watched by just over 1m people, 5m were watching socceraid, and 4m were watching countryfile. I don't doubt those figures, but how are they relevant to the reporting of the debate on the news etc, and the the discussion that is going on up and down the country today. How many of th...
by nil_desperandum
Sun Jun 16, 2019 9:58 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: C4 Conservative leader debate
Replies: 534
Views: 8354

Re: C4 Conservative leader debate

Steve1956 wrote:Stewart came across as a male version of Teresa May.

Can't think of any similarities at all. He has vision, realism,policies, personality and an ability to debate engagingly.
by nil_desperandum
Sun Jun 16, 2019 9:56 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: C4 Conservative leader debate
Replies: 534
Views: 8354

Re: C4 Conservative leader debate

Steve1956 wrote:Stewart seemed a nice guy but portrayed himself as a bumbling idiot,but he was the best of that bunch by a million miles.

Maybe he was deliberately aiming to "out-bumble" Boris in the "idiot" stakes, seeing as some on here see Boris as being unstoppable?
by nil_desperandum
Sun Jun 16, 2019 5:46 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Headingley parking
Replies: 11
Views: 751

Re: Headingley parking

ClaretTony wrote:Quicker to go direct than change at Tod

Agreed, but it doesn't really work as well Tony.
The next direct train doesn't arrive until 9.35, which is pushing it bit (esp. if delayed), and the previous one means setting off earlier, and you only save 15 minutes journey time.
by nil_desperandum
Sun Jun 16, 2019 5:30 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Headingley parking
Replies: 11
Views: 751

Re: Headingley parking

Thanks for the advice so far. Most likely will get the 7.30 from Burnley to Leeds via Tod which arrives at about 9.00am.(t's only just over £11 return with Senior Card) If i'm sat around on the cricket from 10.30 till whenever, then the 45 minute walk will be just what is required if I'm to achieve ...
by nil_desperandum
Sun Jun 16, 2019 10:09 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Headingley parking
Replies: 11
Views: 751

Headingley parking

Looking forward to the England / Sri Lanka game on Friday, and weather forecast is decent for Thursday / Friday. Not been for about 3 years. Any recommendations for parking, or is it simpler to take Train from Burnley MR to Leeds then either walk or take bus? (It's about 40 minutes walk form station...
by nil_desperandum
Sat Jun 15, 2019 11:49 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Boris alliance with Brexit Party ....
Replies: 113
Views: 2787

Re: Boris alliance with Brexit Party ....

I could imagine Boris J on Mastermind, scoring well on his specialist subject but not very well on general knowledge. Wouldn't even do well on his own specialist subject - even though he might know the answers - because he is completely incapable of giving a direct answer to any question and genera...

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