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- Fri Apr 22, 2022 3:22 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: The framework had become a cage
- Replies: 15
- Views: 2362
The framework had become a cage
There’s absolutely nothing wrong with a framework when it as enabling structure, giving shape and purpose to a teams play and for years it has been at the heart of SD’s success. The players understood their roles, their limits and their responsibilities. However when the framework becomes the be all...
- Fri Apr 22, 2022 9:11 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: And suddenly there was freedom
- Replies: 10
- Views: 1610
Re: And suddenly there was freedom
You’re right Babylon but when we’d got goals early in recent times we were more likely to try and hold on than go full throttle at the opposition.
- Fri Apr 22, 2022 9:09 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: After the Lord Mayors Banquet maybe a classic SD 1-0 er
- Replies: 3
- Views: 603
After the Lord Mayors Banquet maybe a classic SD 1-0 er
After that exhilarating performance it’s all too likely we get some kind of reaction and falling away on Sunday. Yes the shackles have been released the players playing with a smile, but sometimes you do need to grind out results and Sunday might well be one of those cases. The classic SD 1-0 er Lit...
- Fri Apr 22, 2022 8:55 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Q and A with Alan Pace tonight
- Replies: 151
- Views: 10854
Re: Q and A with Alan Pace tonight
There is bound to be scepticism surrounding Mr Pace, the nature of the takeover, his knowledge of the game etc, alongside some rather scary anti-Americanism being spouted more often associated with the left of the Labour Party, but Under him we have seen 4 really good signings, a continuation of the...
- Thu Apr 21, 2022 10:24 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: And suddenly there was freedom
- Replies: 10
- Views: 1610
Re: And suddenly there was freedom
Collins commented that everybody was enjoying their football, something which hasn’t been apparent recently.
Of course freedom doesn’t equate to success, we will now be more open, but in my opinion it is the only way we are going to avoid relegation
Of course freedom doesn’t equate to success, we will now be more open, but in my opinion it is the only way we are going to avoid relegation
- Thu Apr 21, 2022 10:17 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: And suddenly there was freedom
- Replies: 10
- Views: 1610
And suddenly there was freedom
Now one win does not a season make, but there certainly was more joy about that performance.
Roberts and Collins comments after the match were telling.
Of course it might all come to naught
But it is good to see a more open approach.
Roberts and Collins comments after the match were telling.
Of course it might all come to naught
But it is good to see a more open approach.
- Thu Apr 21, 2022 5:34 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: 9 games 6 victories
- Replies: 27
- Views: 2946
Re: 9 games 6 victories
Hasn’t aged well.
Though some have done well with predictions.
No margin for error now.
Victories or bust.
Though some have done well with predictions.
No margin for error now.
Victories or bust.
- Thu Apr 21, 2022 5:29 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: What sort of manager do we want?
- Replies: 18
- Views: 823
Re: What sort of manager do we want?
Haven’t seen his name mentioned Salisbury.
Would be a Laws signing
With the board failing to read the room.
- Thu Apr 21, 2022 5:28 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: What sort of manager do we want?
- Replies: 18
- Views: 823
Re: What sort of manager do we want?
Don’t know about the mates bit, but using the loan market has to be part of the way forward.
- Thu Apr 21, 2022 5:26 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Big queues tonight
- Replies: 23
- Views: 3527
Re: Big queues tonight
Bit like the Labour Party, still members mourning the departure of the dear leader.
In SD’s case a little different as he had brought many years of success
So a few days of grieving understandable, particularly given the nature of his departure.
People will move on I’m sure.
In SD’s case a little different as he had brought many years of success
So a few days of grieving understandable, particularly given the nature of his departure.
People will move on I’m sure.
- Thu Apr 21, 2022 5:05 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: What sort of manager do we want?
- Replies: 18
- Views: 823
What sort of manager do we want?
Lots of names banded about, some seeming like Laws signings, ie sticking plaster signings. But what are we looking for in a new manager. For me. Young, ambitious, someone who can think outside the box, be flexible, a good knowledge of the UK leagues, not afraid to introduce youngsters. A man with a ...
- Thu Apr 21, 2022 8:35 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Phillips Thomas Mancini Richardson Helm et al
- Replies: 24
- Views: 2768
Re: Phillips Thomas Mancini Richardson Helm et al
Bedeau looks one to add to the list.
Certainly if we are relegated, pre season will become very interesting as hopefully some of these players start fighting for a place
Certainly if we are relegated, pre season will become very interesting as hopefully some of these players start fighting for a place
- Wed Apr 20, 2022 10:15 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Phillips Thomas Mancini Richardson Helm et al
- Replies: 24
- Views: 2768
Re: Phillips Thomas Mancini Richardson Helm et al
Phillips Played 36, 6 Goals, 8 assists.
Not a bad season for a midfield player in a struggling side.
Not a bad season for a midfield player in a struggling side.
- Wed Apr 20, 2022 10:11 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Eddie Howe
- Replies: 50
- Views: 4291
Re: Eddie Howe
Howe knows how to release an attacking side, his problem has always been the defence.
- Wed Apr 20, 2022 10:09 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Phillips Thomas Mancini Richardson Helm et al
- Replies: 24
- Views: 2768
Re: Phillips Thomas Mancini Richardson Helm et al
Are you looking at it from a Premier League perspective or coming on as subs in the Championship Claret Tony. There is a world of difference.
- Wed Apr 20, 2022 10:07 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Burnley’s owners ‘don’t get the club’
- Replies: 91
- Views: 6473
Re: Burnley’s owners ‘don’t get the club’
Which club are we talking about, the great club of the past which brought players through on a conveyor belt Or the pragmatic club of modern times built on a team ethic, tight knit endeavour and a fairly rigid system Of course they’re going to bring American ideas some of which we may hate, some whi...
- Wed Apr 20, 2022 9:57 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Phillips Thomas Mancini Richardson Helm et al
- Replies: 24
- Views: 2768
Re: Phillips Thomas Mancini Richardson Helm et al
Indeed that was the point made but if we get relegated it opens up a totally different world where some of our young players might come into the reckoning. If that doesn’t happen because we can’t afford to try young players well the enterprise is doomed. We have become far too risk averse and in doi...
- Wed Apr 20, 2022 7:17 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Phillips Thomas Mancini Richardson Helm et al
- Replies: 24
- Views: 2768
Re: Phillips Thomas Mancini Richardson Helm et al
Some terrible negativity on here. Surely we want young players to come through, or is Premier League success the only criteria we now have.
Developing a young side capable of promotion has to be one of the options we think about.
Developing a young side capable of promotion has to be one of the options we think about.
- Wed Apr 20, 2022 6:18 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ARTICLE: The Dyche era is over
- Replies: 46
- Views: 3366
Re: ARTICLE: The Dyche era is over
And indeed he was one of the very best.
Wonder if he’d have played 4-4-2 with McIlroy in his side?
Wonder if he’d have played 4-4-2 with McIlroy in his side?
- Wed Apr 20, 2022 6:12 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Phillips Thomas Mancini Richardson Helm et al
- Replies: 24
- Views: 2768
Phillips Thomas Mancini Richardson Helm et al
If we maintain our Premier League status it’s perhaps unlikely these players will get a look in but if we are relegated you’d think they and others might. It is perhaps the silver lining of relegation that the enterprising youth endeavour might bear fruit. Certainly it’s what made us great, can it r...
- Wed Apr 20, 2022 9:04 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Exciting times
- Replies: 141
- Views: 11511
Re: Exciting times
Relegation might have significant implications from the owners point of view, that is their problem, but it might enable us to transition to a more viable model, if we can start integrating players from our youth set-up into the side. ALK have signed three quality players and are definitely looking ...
- Tue Apr 19, 2022 6:05 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Name the next manager
- Replies: 4376
- Views: 378232
Re: Name the next manager
Some decent potential candidates.
- Tue Apr 19, 2022 5:45 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Exciting times
- Replies: 141
- Views: 11511
Re: Exciting times
It was never going to be exciting times with SD again, he’d played himself out, in fact it was becoming anxious times. It’s only his leaving which has opened up the agenda. Given the club a chance to change. It might be change we can’t handle. I fancy the next 18 months could be perilous but without...
- Tue Apr 19, 2022 4:27 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Guardian article on Sean Dyche
- Replies: 56
- Views: 7233
Re: Guardian article on Sean Dyche
The Guardian comment section is completely predictable, indeed they delete anything which doesn’t fit their biases. The Mails are much more of a mixture and much less censored.Basically people highlighting their prejudices.
- Tue Apr 19, 2022 4:06 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Exciting times
- Replies: 141
- Views: 11511
Re: Exciting times
The fact is suddenly we are in an exciting situation. Exciting doesn’t mean good, it means we’re in a period of flux with a huge range of variables, many choices to be made and a completely uncertain outcome. It’s the very uncertainty that brings the excitement. But excitement and anticipation there...
- Tue Apr 19, 2022 9:54 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Exciting times
- Replies: 141
- Views: 11511
Re: Exciting times
Seems reasonable
- Tue Apr 19, 2022 9:50 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Exciting times
- Replies: 141
- Views: 11511
Exciting times
Not sure if there should be a trade mark put after the title, but Mr Waine has at last got what he desired. Now that the dust has settled we can see clearly we are heading into unchartered territory, with that comes anxiety but also anticipation and excitement. Who will be the new manager. What will...
- Mon Apr 18, 2022 9:33 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: As much as I enjoy the prem
- Replies: 54
- Views: 3818
Re: As much as I enjoy the prem
It’s always most enjoyable when your side is playing good football and winning. That makes the Premier League experience slightly masochistic. Feeling your club is on the way up is when things get exciting. Always loved the time when Trevor Steven came on the scene and started making us tick, or whe...
- Sun Apr 17, 2022 4:37 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Positives & Negatives
- Replies: 24
- Views: 2045
Re: Positives & Negatives
Positive
General team effort
Negative
Not enough points. We need victories.
General team effort
Negative
Not enough points. We need victories.
- Sun Apr 17, 2022 4:35 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: It’s now up to the players
- Replies: 12
- Views: 1520
Re: It’s now up to the players
Positive response.
Let’s hope it continues.
Let’s hope it continues.
- Sun Apr 17, 2022 2:00 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Team news
- Replies: 54
- Views: 3870
Re: Team news
As expected nothing revolutionary and no U-23’s on the bench.
Brownhill and Cork for me but most important thing is the effort put in.
Have they a point to prove ?
Brownhill and Cork for me but most important thing is the effort put in.
Have they a point to prove ?
- Sun Apr 17, 2022 12:18 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: The Sun rumours today
- Replies: 80
- Views: 10840
Re: The Sun rumours today
Dyche for Blackburn.
- Sun Apr 17, 2022 12:16 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Is there a plan?
- Replies: 238
- Views: 13579
Re: Is there a plan?
ALK’s signings by and large have been decent though not dealing with the central problem in the side. We’ll just have to wait to see how savvy they are when it comes to recruiting staff. They took the club over at a bad time and relegation was always a likely scenario. It’s how they deal with that i...
- Sun Apr 17, 2022 12:10 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: It’s now up to the players
- Replies: 12
- Views: 1520
Re: It’s now up to the players
It’s the attitude that will be interesting.
Committed or disinterested.
You would hope they have a point to prove and go about giving the Hammers a tough match, irrespective of the result.
Not expecting a huge change in personnel or framework but a much more positive outlook on the field.
Committed or disinterested.
You would hope they have a point to prove and go about giving the Hammers a tough match, irrespective of the result.
Not expecting a huge change in personnel or framework but a much more positive outlook on the field.
- Sun Apr 17, 2022 11:57 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Name the next manager
- Replies: 4376
- Views: 378232
Re: Name the next manager
Dyche was a gamble.
Nothing wrong with identifying a possible ambitious young manager with potential.
Whether the fans would give him a chance is another thing.
For some anything ALK does is going to be evil.
It’s the age of extreme views.
Nothing wrong with identifying a possible ambitious young manager with potential.
Whether the fans would give him a chance is another thing.
For some anything ALK does is going to be evil.
It’s the age of extreme views.
- Sat Apr 16, 2022 3:49 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Priorities for the new manager
- Replies: 40
- Views: 3345
Re: Priorities for the new manager
Managing expectation.
The new manager needs to take pressure of himself and players.
Time is needed for a re boot
The new manager needs to take pressure of himself and players.
Time is needed for a re boot
- Sat Apr 16, 2022 3:29 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Our league position this time next year
- Replies: 3
- Views: 522
Our league position this time next year
5th in the Championship.
- Sat Apr 16, 2022 3:23 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Burnley or Dyche?
- Replies: 58
- Views: 3129
Re: Burnley or Dyche?
When people say they hope we lose 10-0 it does give that impression.
- Sat Apr 16, 2022 3:15 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Burnley or Dyche?
- Replies: 58
- Views: 3129
Re: Burnley or Dyche?
We do have a tendency to go overboard re managers. Of course OC was the classic, from God to the devil. I think many bought into SD the man, saw him as a good egg, and became a little blind to his failings. Never understood the idolatry myself. It appears however as if the players tired of his ways,...
- Sat Apr 16, 2022 9:13 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: It’s now up to the players
- Replies: 12
- Views: 1520
It’s now up to the players
To put in a shift and show us what they’re capable of.
I think we know they’re capable of more but can they free themselves from the framework and play?
I think we know they’re capable of more but can they free themselves from the framework and play?
- Sat Apr 16, 2022 9:11 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Hypothetically, you inherit a fortune buy the club would you have Dyche back ??
- Replies: 40
- Views: 2267
Re: Hypothetically, you inherit a fortune buy the club would you have Dyche back ??
Does sound like the right move, probably needed some time ago.
Not just about Dyche but the whole coaching staff.
The spark was missing, we were barely firing on two cylinders at times.
Not just about Dyche but the whole coaching staff.
The spark was missing, we were barely firing on two cylinders at times.
- Fri Apr 15, 2022 7:34 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Well done Alan Pace
- Replies: 235
- Views: 15151
Re: Well done Alan Pace
Time to calm down Lancaster and cut out the abuse. Sound like a Corbynista.Lancasterclaret wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 7:32 pmIts a very valid comparison
I knew it would be very hard for the not so bright to get
My apologies
- Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:30 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Well done Alan Pace
- Replies: 235
- Views: 15151
Re: Well done Alan Pace
Decisions need to be decisive. This was. Something was obviously wrong at the club.
- Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:29 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: An opportunity or a disaster?
- Replies: 14
- Views: 1199
Re: An opportunity or a disaster?
If you like your football on the edge SJF
- Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:24 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Has Pace done Garlicks
- Replies: 6
- Views: 1394
Re: Has Pace done Garlicks
Conspiracy theories don’t come much better. Piers Corbyn would be proud of you.
- Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:22 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: An opportunity or a disaster?
- Replies: 14
- Views: 1199
Re: An opportunity or a disaster?
I hope so Woodley,Woodleyclaret wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:21 pmAn opportunity of course, we get fresh ideas and a manager who will develop all our players and not leave them to fester in the U23s
Guess it depends on who we bring in to manage.
- Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:21 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ARTICLE: Weekend starts with the under-23s
- Replies: 18
- Views: 1135
Re: ARTICLE: Weekend starts with the under-23s
Interesting Mancini isn’t making the side. Looked very promising pre season, how far has the injury set him back?
- Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:18 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: An opportunity or a disaster?
- Replies: 14
- Views: 1199
An opportunity or a disaster?
I guess it’s quite easy to see it from both perspectives. SD offered security the certainty that things could never get that bad. Mid table Championship mediocrity was perhaps the worst one could envisage. He was never going to offer huge excitement but he was unlikely to take us to Hades. Now howev...
- Fri Apr 15, 2022 1:50 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Big news coming soon from the Turf (Sean Dyche sacked)
- Replies: 1146
- Views: 76977
Re: Big news coming soon from the Turf (Sean Dyche sacked)
For some it appears like a bereavement without the wake.
Not being able to say goodbye and thank you perhaps is the hardest part for many, particularly after so long.
Maybe the club can arrange something.
Not being able to say goodbye and thank you perhaps is the hardest part for many, particularly after so long.
Maybe the club can arrange something.
- Fri Apr 15, 2022 12:53 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Time for a foreign manager ?
- Replies: 44
- Views: 2359
Re: Time for a foreign manager ?
It's not a culture war thing at all. It's about the stupidity of what, for want of a better phrase, gets called identity politics. I hate the stupid culture war thing. Whether a manager is foreign or not should not be on any criteria for who we want to employ. It's not relevant. It might bring an o...