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by CrosspoolClarets
Sat Jan 18, 2020 4:24 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Laurence Fox
Replies: 45
Views: 2034

Re: Laurence Fox

I see Fox was panned by actor’s union Equity for his Question Time stance although Equity seem to be trying to row back from that, blaming it on rogue committee members. https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/laurence-fox-racism-row-question-time-equity-a4337836.html Personally I thought he spoke comple...
by CrosspoolClarets
Thu Jan 16, 2020 10:23 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Barnes to have hernia surgery
Replies: 141
Views: 4619

Re: ARTICLE: Barnes to have hernia surgery

Interesting little debate, and it would seem reasonable to expect the board to run the club carefully, as they have in the past. However it would also be reasonable to assume that fans want excitement to remove them from the routine of their normal lives, and that comes from four things - wins, grea...
by CrosspoolClarets
Thu Jan 16, 2020 1:12 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Barnes to have hernia surgery
Replies: 141
Views: 4619

Re: ARTICLE: Barnes to have hernia surgery

Seems sensible to try to get him throigh the busy Christmas period then operate when we have a week off and a cup game.

Nothing to see here. Just a chance for Jay and Vydra.
by CrosspoolClarets
Mon Jan 13, 2020 12:01 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Victor Wanyama
Replies: 19
Views: 1936

Re: Victor Wanyama

His style would make him a Cork upgrade, he passes and tackles well, and is good in the air, so the key would seem to be if he runs far enough for Dyche. Dyche would know that from their OPTA subscriptions. A good runner is crucial in a two. Potentially though this is the kind of signing we need, st...
by CrosspoolClarets
Sun Jan 12, 2020 5:17 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Today's footy
Replies: 69
Views: 1684

Re: Today's footy

The three sides currently in the bottom three ship goals for fun. We don’t apart from against the big six and the occasional mistake. That will probably again prove the difference in May.
by CrosspoolClarets
Fri Jan 10, 2020 11:38 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Time to get rid of the Royal family?
Replies: 117
Views: 2647

Re: Time to get rid of the Royal family?

That seems a very strange conclusion to draw. Are you assuming that all those "northern working class areas" - such as Burnley - that voted predominantly "leave" and have just swung away from Labour are "Royalist" strongholds? I doubt you'll find any evidence to support that. I’ll pick this one to ...
by CrosspoolClarets
Thu Jan 09, 2020 9:28 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Time to get rid of the Royal family?
Replies: 117
Views: 2647

Re: Time to get rid of the Royal family?

Classic issue for demonstrating the split down the country, with the hyper-liberals, as well as usually being Remainers, also want us to scrap the monarchy, whilst the socially conservative Brexiteers remain fans. No right or wrong, but continues to show the schism in the country. We could have sele...
by CrosspoolClarets
Tue Jan 07, 2020 11:27 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Next labour leader?
Replies: 527
Views: 15033

Re: Next labour leader?

I suspect this more be more that you've projected your ideals as the "blue collar labour" thing. It's very similar to the values you often refer to. Regardless of that I'm not sure whether Johnson really understands these things, particularly in comparison to someone like Starmer whose upbringing a...
by CrosspoolClarets
Mon Jan 06, 2020 11:40 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Things not well at the club?
Replies: 104
Views: 5804

Re: Things not well at the club?

Heaton and Vokes should have been sold, they had passed their peak usefulness to the club and better players were available in the squad (I noted with interest how we crowded Tom in the box last week and piled corners onto his head instead of our usual far post position - Pope is much better at that...
by CrosspoolClarets
Mon Jan 06, 2020 8:48 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Arsenal vs Leeds
Replies: 104
Views: 2948

Re: Arsenal vs Leeds

Too many of this Leeds side look like Championship players - having a stormer (hats off to them) but needing an extra second before shooting. Bamford a prime candidate. A shame, they'll lose now, and should be a few up. This Arsenal performance is the worst I have ever seen by a big six side. A real...
by CrosspoolClarets
Mon Jan 06, 2020 3:11 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Dyche - "Mike Rigg has had it tougher than expected"
Replies: 168
Views: 7383

Re: Dyche - "Mike Rigg has had it tougher than expected"

The issue here is very simple. The club has implemented a two pronged approach: 1. Any transfer must be be value for money. 2. Any transfer must also meet the manager’s stringent criteria. The problem then is that the two rarely lead to transfers getting over the line. In my experience (which, in te...
by CrosspoolClarets
Sun Jan 05, 2020 4:27 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Dyche "intrigued" with Vydra reception
Replies: 97
Views: 5963

Re: Dyche "intrigued" with Vydra reception

If Dyche doesn’t want the fans to sarcastically applaud Vydra’s entrance he should make sure that (pre Villa) we aren’t bottom of the table for shots taken. People wouldn’t want Vydra on if we had 35 goals so far, they want him on because we often struggle to create shooting opportunities.
by CrosspoolClarets
Sun Jan 05, 2020 9:55 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: The chairman’s comments on the transfer situation
Replies: 244
Views: 8367

Re: The chairman’s comments on the transfer situation

The above predicted Board mindset (futility) makes no sense. They aren’t master businessmen, that is clear, but they are still too clever to think that. Dyche should be the perfect manager to give them an edge in the sense that he enjoys a regular first XI, playing with supreme fitness, so we don’t ...
by CrosspoolClarets
Sat Jan 04, 2020 5:46 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Club statement: Zero tolerance
Replies: 104
Views: 7278

Re: Club statement: Zero tolerance

Totally agree John. We’re not in the Championship struggling for cash - player and supporter welfare is of primary Importance, grabbing a few quid (at the most a few million) that doesn’t make a huge difference on the pitch shouldn’t be worth it if even one life is ruined by these promotions (and mo...
by CrosspoolClarets
Sat Jan 04, 2020 12:28 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: The chairman’s comments on the transfer situation
Replies: 244
Views: 8367

Re: The chairman’s comments on the transfer situation

I agree, everything I can see is pointing to the preparation for the club to sold or be up for sale. Spot on. That is what is screaming at me. Nothing will be allowed to jeopardise the ultimate sale fee. The fans and longevity of the club are no doubt important in the eyes of the board, I wouldn’t ...
by CrosspoolClarets
Sat Jan 04, 2020 11:00 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: The chairman’s comments on the transfer situation
Replies: 244
Views: 8367

Re: The chairman’s comments on the transfer situation

An uninspiring, bland, safe pair of hands who cannot bring himself to sound remotely optimistic in case he raises expectations that he’ll be judged against later. It’s that I could be referring to the Chairman or the manager that I find most depressing. One always capable of surviving, the other alw...
by CrosspoolClarets
Sat Jan 04, 2020 12:24 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Next labour leader?
Replies: 527
Views: 15033

Re: Next labour leader?

Importantly though Labour won't have the votes to block anything. The lack of majority worked for Johnson in some ways because it meant that he could blame his own failure on other people. Going forward no-one is going to be able to say that Labour "blocked" Brexit, Labour won't have the power to d...
by CrosspoolClarets
Fri Jan 03, 2020 4:01 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: War with Iran?
Replies: 105
Views: 4777

Re: War with Iran?

This is a perfect chance to play a game of Corbynite-numpty bingo (by which I mean the politicians who know the below stuff, not our friends on here who may not do). Iran recently shoot down a US plane, seize oil assets, kill a US contractor and then (fatally for the Iranian general and Hezbollah gu...
by CrosspoolClarets
Fri Jan 03, 2020 1:36 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: How much money do we have ?
Replies: 52
Views: 2096

Re: How much money do we have ?

How much money do we have? “We” have none of it. Whatever are the club’s assets (got to be near a quarter of a billion including players, the balance sheet surely understates them?), shareholders benefit from that, we only benefit temporarily if it is spent in a way that affects us. So far there is ...
by CrosspoolClarets
Fri Jan 03, 2020 10:35 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Next labour leader?
Replies: 527
Views: 15033

Re: Next labour leader?

I'm not sure whether being a remainer will be that important. Realistically Brexit will be irreversible after the end of the month so it's going to be less of an issue (so long as whoever the leader is recognises that). If a new Labour leader pushes for a close trade deal with freedom of movement (...
by CrosspoolClarets
Thu Jan 02, 2020 1:55 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Ben Gibson
Replies: 80
Views: 6829

Re: Ben Gibson

The irony is that the one game that Mee has been dropped for (Olympiacos away) was the one that was crying out for his attributes (resilience and leadership). In the Premier League keeping hold of the ball and moving it forward progressively is all important, and Gibson is / was good at that. Mind y...
by CrosspoolClarets
Thu Jan 02, 2020 8:37 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: What is wrong?
Replies: 110
Views: 5195

Re: What is wrong?

To give Dyche some credit yesterday was the first bad home performance when we haven’t won when we would expect to. Palace was the only blip and we played OK but missed chances. OK, we had 21 shots yesterday and only 1 on target but most came in the first 30 minutes of the second half - not a single...
by CrosspoolClarets
Wed Jan 01, 2020 5:39 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley v Aston Villa - Player Ratings
Replies: 75
Views: 3596

Re: Burnley v Aston Villa - Player Ratings

Pope 6 - some decent moments and good throwing Bardsley 5 - ponderous today and stood miles off Grealish for second goal Tarkowski 4 - mistake after mistake, slack passing and dozy in possession Mee 7 - at least two crunching tackles to try to regain momentum Taylor 5 - woeful delivery after good dr...
by CrosspoolClarets
Wed Jan 01, 2020 5:20 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: We didn’t turn up in the first half
Replies: 17
Views: 826

Re: ARTICLE: We didn’t turn up in the first half

Puzzling comments from Dyche. If Barnes has a sore groin why play him and leave out Jay who was excellent vs United? Why leave off Drinkwater when he was poised to come on as we scored - we still needed goals just like before so nothing changed? If goals have dried up due to a lack of creativity why...
by CrosspoolClarets
Wed Jan 01, 2020 11:59 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: What happened to Bobby Madley
Replies: 51
Views: 2109

Re: What happened to Bobby Madley

I am not a fan of him as a referee but would be happy to see him ref every game at the Turf this season if he gets his job back. This is the battle of the hyper-liberal versus the normal person. Thank God those days (in many countries) seem like they are coming to an end. Let's get personality back,...
by CrosspoolClarets
Tue Dec 31, 2019 3:22 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Conservatives win Burnley after 109 years ... why ?
Replies: 86
Views: 2598

Re: Conservatives win Burnley after 109 years ... why ?

Oh, an aside, the Universal Basic Income idea I have just mentioned above to reinvigorate Burnley may seem like a hard left idea, but it was also suggested earlier this year as a way to tackle automation unemployment by........... .........Boris's chief guru Dominic Cummings (using the phrase negati...
by CrosspoolClarets
Tue Dec 31, 2019 3:16 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Conservatives win Burnley after 109 years ... why ?
Replies: 86
Views: 2598

Re: Conservatives win Burnley after 109 years ... why ?

The irony of this election is that Labour could have come close to winning it if they had chosen different policies, which suggests an intellectual gap as much as anything else. How many of Labour's policies were beneficial to Burnley people? Nationalising energy is an example of something that does...
by CrosspoolClarets
Tue Dec 31, 2019 9:14 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Conservatives win Burnley after 109 years ... why ?
Replies: 86
Views: 2598

Re: Conservatives win Burnley after 109 years ... why ?

It isn’t rocket science. Many of the people who voted Tory for the first time in their lives did so because the Labour party no longer represents their views and interests, and Corbyn’s policies were generally not deemed relevant to their lives. The best take by far I have heard (warning, it is a lo...
by CrosspoolClarets
Mon Dec 30, 2019 9:56 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: The Worst Weekend For VAR Yet?
Replies: 52
Views: 1493

Re: The Worst Weekend For VAR Yet?

The solution seems easy - reinforce the ref as the person running the game. VAR ref tells him in his earpiece “I think you should look at that one” but instead of the VAR guy doing it the ref will do it instead, a quick look at the pitch-side monitor, without the use of lines, and it the ref agrees ...
by CrosspoolClarets
Sun Dec 29, 2019 9:42 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley v Manchester United - Player Ratings
Replies: 93
Views: 3535

Re: Burnley v Manchester United - Player Ratings

Pope 8 Bardsley 7 Tarkowski 9 Mee 8 Taylor 5 Hendrick 4 Cork 5 Westwood 6 McNeil 6 Barnes 4 Wood 5 Rodriguez 7 JBG 6 I know some of us have the opinion that the first half started OK but I thought we were appalling throughout it, and the stats back that up. Seven Utd shots before our first, terrible...
by CrosspoolClarets
Sun Dec 29, 2019 8:39 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: RATE THE REF - Mike Dean v Manchester United
Replies: 52
Views: 1461

Re: RATE THE REF - Mike Dean v Manchester United

A - 13 B - 5 C - 20 D - 10 Dean is my favourite ref but this was a bad one from him. There were several decisions I thought were bad, and they tended to favour United. No doubt we were robust, but we do that in every game and in this game the refereeing felt different. We gave United too much respec...
by CrosspoolClarets
Thu Dec 26, 2019 5:49 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Everton v Burnley - Player Ratings
Replies: 53
Views: 2850

Re: Everton v Burnley - Player Ratings

Pope 8 Taylor 7 Mee 8 Tarks 7 Bardsley 7 McNeil 4 Cork 6 Westwood 6 Brady 4 Wood 6 Jay Rod 5 JBG 4 Barnes 5 A fairly pointless 90 minutes in more ways than one. The very early ping pong headers in their box our only real opening (the Wood header was offside). We never produced any moments of quality...
by CrosspoolClarets
Mon Dec 23, 2019 1:57 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Will we rotate the squad over the busy festive period
Replies: 34
Views: 1695

Re: Will we rotate the squad over the busy festive period

Full strength side in each game please then if we beat Villa to get to 27 (at least) points then a full strength side against Posh too.

It will be time to take the cup seriously. We would only need three more league wins at that point and we would have a winter break coming up this year.
by CrosspoolClarets
Sun Dec 22, 2019 10:53 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Huge win but
Replies: 132
Views: 6775

Re: Huge win but

Our struggles are as simple as missing key players and letting others go. In the last four years one could argue that we have replaced Barton with Westwood - both effective at surging forward and providing a quality cross or through ball. Now, when Westwood is out we struggle because we have nobody ...
by CrosspoolClarets
Fri Dec 20, 2019 4:32 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brexit: The Naked Truth
Replies: 21534
Views: 584125

Re: Brexit: The Naked Truth

I am still shaking from head in disbelief at the naivety of the Lib Dems in forcing an election that in essence makes it a Brexit of Johnson’s choosing, with (rightly, in my view) none of the previously negotiated (in Westminster) concessions. The polls were clear - a majority want to leave, even th...
by CrosspoolClarets
Wed Dec 18, 2019 12:08 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Next labour leader?
Replies: 527
Views: 15033

Re: Next labour leader?

Brief observation from me that Lisa Nandy was on Newsnight last night and was fairly impressive at understanding why this “flight to the cities” has totally failed (and why it happened in the first place). She was on with that Mansfield Tory MP and in truth there wasn’t much between them in terms of...
by CrosspoolClarets
Tue Dec 17, 2019 7:42 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Vitamins Supplements: cure or con?
Replies: 32
Views: 1037

Re: Vitamins Supplements: cure or con?

I don’t think there is any such thing as a balanced diet - there are hundreds of different vitamins and minerals, all at different levels in each food and changing based on how we cook it. It’s an impossible task. I take a powerful multivitamin from Biocare and a fish oil containing only pure EPA. B...
by CrosspoolClarets
Mon Dec 16, 2019 5:17 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley on " Sky " News ...
Replies: 72
Views: 5355

Re: Burnley on " Sky " News ...

For the benefit of jrgbfc, the "selfishness" actually comes from the liberal left, the moderate right want social cohesion and a focus on community, nation and family. There is nothing wrong with liberalism per se, but it has been hijacked by people who create their own echo chambers and get offende...
by CrosspoolClarets
Sun Dec 15, 2019 10:50 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: General Election Is On
Replies: 5094
Views: 76643

Re: General Election Is On

There seems to be quite a hefty contradiction here. Better worded as “would have helped me to progress in any way”. The council house was a valuable safety net for us 50 years ago, but the social mobility came from the ability to accumulate capital and to spend that capital on education to get qual...
by CrosspoolClarets
Sun Dec 15, 2019 10:45 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: General Election Is On
Replies: 5094
Views: 76643

Re: General Election Is On

We don’t live in a purely capitalist society, so you’d be wrong to believe your good fortune is entirely down to it. What the elements of socialism within our country have done is equal things out more, so more likely to have played a role in your success. If any of us go back four or more generati...
by CrosspoolClarets
Sun Dec 15, 2019 10:30 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: General Election Is On
Replies: 5094
Views: 76643

Re: General Election Is On

So do you think he's significantly changed from when he was London mayor and over-promised and under-delivered? To me (and I followed that campaign and voted for him) it all feels very familiar with the big promises followed by the spin on the numbers. I think he wants to deliver (as opposed to pre...
by CrosspoolClarets
Sun Dec 15, 2019 5:09 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: General Election Is On
Replies: 5094
Views: 76643

Re: General Election Is On

Crazy that we've got working class folk like RIngo rejoicing in the fact he's just voted for 5 more years (minimum) of capitalism. All I would ask is this; are you happy with the energy prices you're currently paying? Are you happy with the insurance money you're currently paying? Are you happy wit...
by CrosspoolClarets
Sun Dec 15, 2019 4:52 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: General Election Is On
Replies: 5094
Views: 76643

Re: General Election Is On

The problem with Johnson is, unlike a lot of other potential PMs, he has a track record in leadership to look back on. Unfortunately that track record includes a hell of a lot of broken promises and commitments that he didn't see through. Maybe he's changed and this leadership will be different but...
by CrosspoolClarets
Sun Dec 15, 2019 12:19 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: General Election Is On
Replies: 5094
Views: 76643

Re: General Election Is On

I think that's a fair comment and I hope you're right, though the only point with which I'd contend is Johnson being inherently more inclined to adequately fund public services and provide infrastructure investment. He's a machiavellian opportunist of the highest order. I don't mean that as a criti...
by CrosspoolClarets
Sat Dec 14, 2019 10:01 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: General Election Is On
Replies: 5094
Views: 76643

Re: General Election Is On

There are a lot of people linking the Tories with austerity but I would say that choice is a leadership one not a general party ideology. Recent Tory PMs have been the son of a builder, the daughter of a grocer, the son of a gardening company owner, the daughter of a vicar, then finally the son of a...
by CrosspoolClarets
Sat Dec 14, 2019 1:11 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: General Election Is On
Replies: 5094
Views: 76643

Re: General Election Is On

You’re not reading what I said. It was Andrew Marr positing that a big Tory majority might lead to a softer Brexit, I was merely clutching at that straw in the hope that a Johnson government won’t be as bad as I think it might be. As I’ve said in this thread and others we all get the government tha...
by CrosspoolClarets
Sat Dec 14, 2019 1:02 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Next labour leader?
Replies: 527
Views: 15033

Re: Next labour leader?

Watching Newsnight there was a woman on who took on Iain Duncan Smith and lost, earlier I saw that Labour front bencher Richard Burgon from Leeds defending Corbyn. The abiding thought is that this lot are thick as mince - seriously, seriously thick. The Burgon guy is meant to be a lawyer, crikey. So...
by CrosspoolClarets
Fri Dec 13, 2019 12:05 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: General Election Is On
Replies: 5094
Views: 76643

Re: General Election Is On

I said it at the time, but those prats should have voted for May’s deal. Huge mistake from Labour’s POV.
by CrosspoolClarets
Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:11 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: General Election Is On
Replies: 5094
Views: 76643

Re: General Election Is On

For the benefit of Remainer friends, and in the interests of renewal, there are silver linings to their cloud: 1. The DUP have been totally marginalised. 2. The ERG have also been totally marginalised. 3. Boris is now free to water down Brexit and get a strong EU deal without fear of Commons rejecti...
by CrosspoolClarets
Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:07 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: General Election Is On
Replies: 5094
Views: 76643

Re: General Election Is On

You can always trust the British people. Moderate left economics and social conservatism with a decent Labour leader and they would have won themselves. Hard left socialism and hyper-liberalism was always going to be soundly rejected. That isn’t Britain. Now, the country will change for the better. ...