And the owner then crowing about it from the City Hall balcony celebrations.kentonclaret wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2024 5:21 pmIt is perhaps somewhat ironic, that Nottingham Forest would not even be in the Premier League were it not for Huddersfield Town being denied 2 clear penalties in their Wembley Play-Off Final.
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- Mon Apr 22, 2024 6:41 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Nottingham Forest tweet
- Replies: 168
- Views: 8844
Re: Nottingham Forest tweet
- Mon Apr 22, 2024 2:53 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Kompany to Brighton?
- Replies: 85
- Views: 4551
Re: Kompany to Brighton?
Every manager has a favourite reporter. Could easily be some leverage for renegotiation of a relegation clause, something to ease the financial pain of a relegation. Agents get up to all sorts. I don’t read anything into it. But there is a time and place to move on from, this isn’t it.
- Mon Apr 22, 2024 2:46 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: IF ONLY
- Replies: 39
- Views: 2753
Re: IF ONLY
Two more wins and Muric will have more points than Trafford this season, they are currently on 14 and 9. Games played are 28 and 6. Spending up to £18m on a rookie kid keeper was inexplicable, throwing him straight in was bizarre and self defeating, keeping him in for 28 games was, if we were any ot...
- Mon Apr 22, 2024 2:38 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Kompany to Brighton?
- Replies: 85
- Views: 4551
Re: Kompany to Brighton?
Sounds like Sacha is stirring up the market for him. Anyone with any character, especially at that young managerial age, would stay to rectify their huge errors this season, we could all name several: leaving out Taylor, summer recruitment, Muric, not anticipating Foster’s risk of absence, tactics, ...
- Mon Apr 22, 2024 9:11 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Nottingham Forest tweet
- Replies: 168
- Views: 8844
Re: Nottingham Forest tweet
Just seen the Coventry “winner”. The truth is, VAR is an abomination, and most issues stem from that. How wrong and heartbreaking for the CCFC fans to celebrate the greatest ever comeback then have it snatched away, after the officials had given the goal. Offside was never meant to be judged by a to...
- Mon Apr 22, 2024 8:53 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Nottingham Forest tweet
- Replies: 168
- Views: 8844
Re: Nottingham Forest tweet
That would be an example of corruption. More likely is the opposite effect, positive corruption if you will, where they get the next half dozen 50/50 shouts so we can all be told that it evens itself out. Not really, it is all subconscious bias. A bit like the teacher at school who tries to be fair...
- Mon Apr 22, 2024 8:41 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: PL Prediction League - All Fixtures and Updates - WEEK 31 PREDICTIONS
- Replies: 1615
- Views: 121885
Re: PL Prediction League - All Fixtures and Updates - WEEK 31 PREDICTIONS
Week 33.
Tuesday 23rd April
Arsenal 2-1 Chelsea
Wednesday 24th April
Wolves 1-1 Bournemouth NAP
Crystal Palace 1-2 Newcastle
Everton 0-2 Liverpool - Salah 41 mins
Man-Utd 3-0 Sheffield United
Thursday 25th April
Brighton 1-3 Man-City
Tuesday 23rd April
Arsenal 2-1 Chelsea
Wednesday 24th April
Wolves 1-1 Bournemouth NAP
Crystal Palace 1-2 Newcastle
Everton 0-2 Liverpool - Salah 41 mins
Man-Utd 3-0 Sheffield United
Thursday 25th April
Brighton 1-3 Man-City
- Mon Apr 22, 2024 12:37 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Nottingham Forest tweet
- Replies: 168
- Views: 8844
Re: Nottingham Forest tweet
Just seen them on MOTD just before bed. Claim 1 - not a pen, Webb explained this months ago, but some refs give them in error like Atwell against us Claim 2 - not a pen, hand was natural Claim 3 - penalty, error by Taylor, no ball contact, but the silly “clear and obvious” that has done us half a do...
- Sun Apr 21, 2024 10:00 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Nottingham Forest tweet
- Replies: 168
- Views: 8844
Re: Nottingham Forest tweet
Agree with Tony above. Unfortunately you don’t get what you deserve in life and certainly not in the Premier League. It is too much to hope for, but the prospect of Maranakis at the Turf, us relegating them with ref assistance, staying up in the process, and JJ Watt in the director’s box (after his ...
- Sun Apr 21, 2024 9:35 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Nottingham Forest tweet
- Replies: 168
- Views: 8844
Re: Nottingham Forest tweet
What they have done here in making the Luton reference is question the integrity of the referee. That has to be unacceptable. I assume they will get a charge from the FA that will end in a fine. This is the key point I think from Tony. When I’ve raised the same issue many times this season I’ve mad...
- Sat Apr 20, 2024 10:23 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: That is why
- Replies: 26
- Views: 2703
Re: That is why
I reckon I could pick an XI not starting today who would walk the Championship if they played every game. Yes we will lose players and some will be out of contract without me checking but that depth tells us all we need to know. e.g. Trafford, Roberts, Al Dakhil, Beyer, Delcroix, Brownhill, Massengo...
- Sat Apr 20, 2024 10:13 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Sheffield United v Burnley - Player Ratings
- Replies: 85
- Views: 4060
Re: Sheffield United v Burnley - Player Ratings
Muric 9 - impeccable apart from a couple of very loose passes, kept us in it, and given our record when behind, won us 3 points :D Assignon 8 - vital goal and assist with a few more good attacking moments Taylor 7 - solid at the back but delivery was poor Esteve 6 - struggled in the first half and g...
- Sat Apr 20, 2024 9:13 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Berge
- Replies: 47
- Views: 3833
Re: Berge
Rolls Royce of a player, always looks to have time, but like the others it depends on us getting suitable offers, which for him needs to be £20m.
All depends what clauses are in the contract of course.
All depends what clauses are in the contract of course.
- Sat Apr 20, 2024 9:08 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Cullen
- Replies: 17
- Views: 2686
Re: Cullen
The Muric and Cullen omission must be giving Kompany sleepless nights. Obviously an error. We called the Muric one, there were mixed feelings on Cullen due to physicality.
- Sat Apr 20, 2024 9:06 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: RATE THE REF - Andy Madley v Sheffield United
- Replies: 21
- Views: 927
Re: RATE THE REF - Andy Madley v Sheffield United
A 20
B 20
C 20
D 20
Solid performance, only a couple of minor things, the Taylor dive or non dive being one.
B 20
C 20
D 20
Solid performance, only a couple of minor things, the Taylor dive or non dive being one.
- Fri Apr 19, 2024 8:59 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Taffy
- Replies: 154
- Views: 5618
Re: Taffy
My condolences to all his family, friends and those affected on here. RIP.
Will always remember he played in my first ever game, a fixture against a London team that had some importance riding on it if I recall, in May 1987.
Will always remember he played in my first ever game, a fixture against a London team that had some importance riding on it if I recall, in May 1987.
- Fri Apr 19, 2024 8:54 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: A57 Road closure?
- Replies: 6
- Views: 760
Re: A57 Road closure?
It’s open. It was shut daytime until Wednesday to allow the incompetent Derbyshire CC to repair some of the road that had turned into about 30 deep potholes. Really was farcical.
I’ll be heading down it tomorrow at 8am out of Sheffield then back at 12 to get to Bramall Lane.
I’ll be heading down it tomorrow at 8am out of Sheffield then back at 12 to get to Bramall Lane.
- Fri Apr 19, 2024 2:24 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ARTICLE: Madley steps in to referee at Bramall Lane
- Replies: 14
- Views: 897
Re: ARTICLE: Madley steps in to referee at Bramall Lane
Unusual to see the assistants remain, they are Taylor’s chums, they did the club world cup final with him and they normally work as a team. Expected they would have been off to Goodison too. Which of course begs the question, why not have a team with VAR too, so the ref and VAR get used to working t...
- Fri Apr 19, 2024 2:20 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Brownhill Contract
- Replies: 38
- Views: 2671
Re: Brownhill Contract
He scores and creates more than many of our so called more attacking star names, there is no substitute for Premier League nous.
- Fri Apr 19, 2024 1:14 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ARTICLE: Madley steps in to referee at Bramall Lane
- Replies: 14
- Views: 897
Re: ARTICLE: Madley steps in to referee at Bramall Lane
Sums up our season. The one time we are set for a decent ref in a vital game they get switched to Everton and Forest, who of course are far more important than we are. There is a lot riding on our game. It could get PGMOL 5 horrendous decisions in successive games against us. The kind of record that...
- Thu Apr 18, 2024 3:34 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Nathan Tella
- Replies: 65
- Views: 5059
Re: Nathan Tella
I wish people would show even half the support to actual Burnley players. Many do of course, but some do not, which pollutes many discussions on social media. The Premier League is tougher than any league in the world, the defenders are giants, no guarantee Tella or indeed Maatsen would have done a...
- Wed Apr 17, 2024 9:26 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: So do you drop Muric after two massive costly howlers?
- Replies: 363
- Views: 10462
Re: So do you drop Muric after two massive costly howlers?
5 matches all against sides outside of the top 6 including a Wolves side missing Cunha and Neto and an Everton team that rarely scores more than once in a game. You are of course selectively ignoring (in order to criticise one of your own team) that he hasn’t played against the “top 6” as you say, ...
- Wed Apr 17, 2024 3:08 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: So do you drop Muric after two massive costly howlers?
- Replies: 363
- Views: 10462
Re: So do you drop Muric after two massive costly howlers?
https://x.com/other14the/status/1780582092964819314?s=61 The Other 14 (for clubs not in the big 6) have put our a chart today showing Muric is the best keeper outside the big six for save percentage (albeit from only 5 matches). I know we would all feel better if he had let 2 more into the top corne...
- Wed Apr 17, 2024 12:22 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: So who's renewed their ST?
- Replies: 256
- Views: 11977
Re: So who's renewed their ST?
I'm on a tight budget now and the increase is big for me, but the even bigger increases for under-22s is horrendous. Ours are the biggest increases, percentage wise, in the Premier League so far by some considerable distance. I really do sympathise and am trying to be very fair with comments on thi...
- Tue Apr 16, 2024 10:56 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: So who's renewed their ST?
- Replies: 256
- Views: 11977
Re: So who's renewed their ST?
Big rises at Forest, adult prices up a lot and concessions tightened like at many clubs. We still seem at the low end but football is pricing out ordinary fans more and more. Soon it will just be the fairly affluent middle classes who can afford it. https://nffctrust.org/statement-on-season-card-pri...
- Tue Apr 16, 2024 10:31 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Jrod
- Replies: 55
- Views: 4286
Re: Jrod
I don’t think we are deliberately setting out to lose games, but there seems a real naive hope that raw kids can perform at the same level as senior pros who have seem it and done it. It seems like a kind of inverted snobbery, the older one is the worse they must be. Football doesn’t work like that.
- Tue Apr 16, 2024 10:25 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Maatsen
- Replies: 24
- Views: 2306
Re: Maatsen
Congrats to Ian for a great achievement. I for one was very sad not to sign him. The problem of course was not so much failing to sign him, but failing to sign any of our main targets (apart from Berge). Imagine our league position now if we had Verbruggen, Maatsen, Palmer, Boey, Clarke and Gyokeres...
- Tue Apr 16, 2024 6:40 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Stephen Hewitt ACL fundraiser
- Replies: 32
- Views: 2108
Re: Stephen Hewitt ACL fundraiser
It really is the definition of a charity case,
Sympathise, but I’m not a fan of people getting the begging bowl out asking for money, apart from in very rare cases (subpostmaster’s legal costs etc).
Sympathise, but I’m not a fan of people getting the begging bowl out asking for money, apart from in very rare cases (subpostmaster’s legal costs etc).
- Tue Apr 16, 2024 6:36 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Sky and EFL package
- Replies: 39
- Views: 2440
Re: Sky and EFL package
Also terrible for the likelihood of the excellent Ticket Exchange being continued. If few games sell out, few games will be resold. Bad for those who live away where this is a good way to get some cash back for games they cannot make.
- Tue Apr 16, 2024 10:19 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Chelsea v Everton
- Replies: 134
- Views: 5376
Re: Chelsea v Everton
Stay up easily? They are two points clear of the relegation zone and have won two in, what, 15 games, both against us. And as bad as we’ve been, we gave Chelsea more of a game. With ten men. It doesn’t seem like all is well with the players either. It’s easy to dismiss the Patterson incident but th...
- Tue Apr 16, 2024 10:16 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: 23/24 Season - Burnley Predictor Game - SHEFF UTD v BURNLEY
- Replies: 2481
- Views: 149905
Re: 23/24 Season - Burnley Predictor Game - BURNLEY v BRIGHTON
Sheff Utd 1 Burnley 2 - Brun Larsen 12 mins
NL2
NL2
- Tue Apr 16, 2024 10:14 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: PL Prediction League - All Fixtures and Updates - WEEK 31 PREDICTIONS
- Replies: 1615
- Views: 121885
Re: PL Prediction League - All Fixtures and Updates - WEEK 31 PREDICTIONS
Week 32
SATURDAY 20TH April.
Luton 2-1 Brentford
Sheffield United 1-3 Burnley - Foster 5 mins
Wolves 0-2 Arsenal
SUNDAY 21st of April
Everton 1-1 Nottingham Forest NAP
Aston Villa 2-0 Bournemouth
Crystal Palace 1-2 West Ham
Fulham 0-2 Liverpool
19 goals
SATURDAY 20TH April.
Luton 2-1 Brentford
Sheffield United 1-3 Burnley - Foster 5 mins
Wolves 0-2 Arsenal
SUNDAY 21st of April
Everton 1-1 Nottingham Forest NAP
Aston Villa 2-0 Bournemouth
Crystal Palace 1-2 West Ham
Fulham 0-2 Liverpool
19 goals
- Mon Apr 15, 2024 9:49 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Chelsea v Everton
- Replies: 134
- Views: 5376
Re: Chelsea v Everton
This Everton side are better than most of Dyche’s Burnley sides. Particularly in central midfield and upfront with Calvert Lewin. This thread is abusing them but they will stay up easily. They just aren’t pretty.
Dyche has done well with the resources at his disposal. This league is brutal.
Dyche has done well with the resources at his disposal. This league is brutal.
- Mon Apr 15, 2024 8:42 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Chelsea v Everton
- Replies: 134
- Views: 5376
Re: Cole Palmer
I was under the impression that he was on his way to us but Chelsea got him and let us have Fofana 😢😢😢 Big naivety unfortunately, the financial payoff from a loan deal was already established, with last seasons loans getting us the £100m bonanza. It isn’t just about buying players and selling them....
- Mon Apr 15, 2024 8:32 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Chelsea v Everton
- Replies: 134
- Views: 5376
Re: Cole Palmer
Are you Muric in disguise…….(to Pratford)
What a hat trick though.
(sigh) what might have been……our own silly fault for courting Lukebakio and Bakayoko first, because I reckon City would have signed off the loan way before Chelsea came sniffing.
What a hat trick though.
(sigh) what might have been……our own silly fault for courting Lukebakio and Bakayoko first, because I reckon City would have signed off the loan way before Chelsea came sniffing.
- Mon Apr 15, 2024 8:24 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Burnley v Brighton - Player Ratings
- Replies: 91
- Views: 4853
Re: Burnley v Brighton - Player Ratings
Re: Hanover above.
Tresor actually had more touches in added time than any player on the pitch apart from Dunk.
Just saying, for the benefit of those not present. Agree on Muric though.
Tresor actually had more touches in added time than any player on the pitch apart from Dunk.
Just saying, for the benefit of those not present. Agree on Muric though.
- Mon Apr 15, 2024 3:47 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: penalty decision
- Replies: 41
- Views: 3971
Re: penalty decision
Agree entirely with this. Managed to watch it back now and cannot work out for the life of me why that wasn’t given or how Bellamy could be okay with it. Unless there’s an angle where he makes contact with the ball before he collides in to Odobert it’s as nailed on pen as I’ve seen. I’m still angry...
- Mon Apr 15, 2024 11:57 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Nathan Tella
- Replies: 65
- Views: 5059
Re: Nathan Tella
I suspect Tella would have signed for us early, he would have thought that was a big move. However the bigger names like Gyokeres, Lukebakio, Dier, Milner, Bakayoko - even if we had gone in big on July 1st with huge wages they would have hung on to see what else developed and we would have (and did)...
- Mon Apr 15, 2024 11:45 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Finishing above Forest
- Replies: 32
- Views: 3973
Re: Finishing above Forest
The bigger issue is do we choose to try to relegate them in the final game or do we let Luton come down with us?
Personally, I’d take Forest, payback for the owner and well deserved for Luton. No guarantee they will romp the Championship next season. They lose Gibbs White and Akinyi for a start.
Personally, I’d take Forest, payback for the owner and well deserved for Luton. No guarantee they will romp the Championship next season. They lose Gibbs White and Akinyi for a start.
- Sun Apr 14, 2024 10:31 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Burnley v Brighton - Player Ratings
- Replies: 91
- Views: 4853
Re: Burnley v Brighton - Player Ratings
Whichever ever way you try to dress it up there’s no getting away from the fact that Muric has lost us 2 points. Also could have gained us 1 point. For all we know Brighton could have scored from the corners where Muric claimed the ball, if it were Trafford in goal. He was very tidy in those instan...
- Sun Apr 14, 2024 8:44 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: REPORT: A tale of two keepers
- Replies: 28
- Views: 1889
Re: REPORT: A tale of two keepers
I think it’s more than likely we’d have picked up an extra 5 or 6 points with Pope between the sticks this season. Whether or not that would have been enough I don’t know. Newcastle have certainly missed him. I think Pope is England’s best keeper. I just don’t think he is suited to our style. It wo...
- Sun Apr 14, 2024 8:00 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: REPORT: A tale of two keepers
- Replies: 28
- Views: 1889
Re: REPORT: A tale of two keepers
We do of course long for Heaton and Pope again, but they were incapable of playing the way we play (and City etc play). The fast distribution, the high defence and sweeper keeper.
I’m not convinced having them in our goal this season would have saved us.
I’m not convinced having them in our goal this season would have saved us.
- Sun Apr 14, 2024 7:40 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: So do you drop Muric after two massive costly howlers?
- Replies: 363
- Views: 10462
Re: So do you drop Muric after two massive costly howlers?
What I’ve liked about Muric is the aggression at commanding his box, the instant the ball is swinging over he is charging towards the spot where it will descend, plucking them out of the air. Then his aggression at one on one situations. Then his speed in wanting to get us up the field (as opposed t...
- Sun Apr 14, 2024 7:28 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Nathan Tella
- Replies: 65
- Views: 5059
Re: Nathan Tella
3 defeats (so far) in 2 seasons of football. Nuts And of those, one was his debut away at Watford where he came off the bench, and one was City away in the cup. The only defeat other than that was Sheffield United away. Played over 4200 minutes across 2 seasons other than those, without losing. Tha...
- Sun Apr 14, 2024 6:15 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Title race
- Replies: 36
- Views: 1641
Re: Title race
Hope for Liverpool but joy for City.
- Sun Apr 14, 2024 6:14 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Title race
- Replies: 36
- Views: 1641
Re: Title race
As far as I am aware, and it was certainly true until recently, not lost a game he has played any part in since our collapse at Bramall Lane 18 months ago. Well done to him.AGENT_CLARET wrote: ↑Sun Apr 14, 2024 5:07 pmTwo title's in a row and only losing three league game's (so far) in two year must be some sort of record for a player
- Sun Apr 14, 2024 4:19 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: RATE THE REF - Simon Hooper v Brighton
- Replies: 49
- Views: 2178
Re: RATE THE REF - Simon Hooper v Brighton
For C fitness and positioning any low marks imo are ridiculous as he was up with play all the game Scores should be high around 20 It is fitness and positioning, not just fitness. For example, as Enola he was obscured for the penalty, but needed to be in a good position to see it. Good refs see the...
- Sun Apr 14, 2024 4:12 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Title race
- Replies: 36
- Views: 1641
Re: Title race
Talking of the title race, good luck to Nathan today. Starts for Leverkusen and if they win they win the league.
- Sun Apr 14, 2024 1:13 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: 25 points from winning positions
- Replies: 30
- Views: 1742
Re: 25 points from winning positions
25 points from winning positions, and 15 points by my tally cost us by officials (some points probably double counted in that).
That would have us level with the Champions League places
I am of course being ironic but we can all see how this season could have been very different.
That would have us level with the Champions League places
I am of course being ironic but we can all see how this season could have been very different.
- Sun Apr 14, 2024 1:09 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: RATE THE REF - Simon Hooper v Brighton
- Replies: 49
- Views: 2178
Re: RATE THE REF - Simon Hooper v Brighton
A - 10 B - 10 C - 15 D - 15 This is one of those where those who saw it live and are allowed to vote ‘could’ conclude that he made good decisions, but on checking it on MOTD afterwards would have to change their minds. Personally, I was happy with what I concluded live. The penalty was clear and obv...