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- Wed Jun 01, 2022 10:18 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: What sort of investment?
- Replies: 90
- Views: 5691
- Wed Jun 01, 2022 10:18 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: What sort of investment?
- Replies: 90
- Views: 5691
Re: What sort of investment?
Blakesboots - Could I ask to what end you are posting on a fans message board? Is Alan Pace aware you are on here, indeed, is this something he has specifically tasked you with? What is the aim of the game, as you don’t appear to be willing (or able) to placate any of the concerns raised at any jun...
- Tue May 31, 2022 5:57 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: What sort of investment?
- Replies: 90
- Views: 5691
Re: What sort of investment?
TBH Spice, I think had there not been lessons that could only be learned in the hot seat, I’d be a lot more worried. I never see ‘learning’ as a problem, only denial that any lessons had been learned, would overly worry me. Absolutely agree. No one makes mistakes intentionally, if there’s learning ...
- Tue May 31, 2022 5:12 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Name the next manager
- Replies: 4376
- Views: 381045
Re: Name the next manager
Oh he gets plenty on here too and xenophobia and religious bigotry is bubbling under the surface of the comments of some his fiercest critics. Stick “yank” and “Mormon” in the search box and see his many hits there are. People very clearly believe his nationality and religion impact his ability to ...
- Tue May 31, 2022 4:10 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Name the next manager
- Replies: 4376
- Views: 381045
Re: Name the next manager
I've never, ever known us not publish the retain list before and we've been without a manager on other occasions. Can I and others please have an explanation as to why you are censoring reasonable questions and the follow ups. That is the decent thing to do as administrator of the board. It is also...
- Tue May 31, 2022 4:03 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Name the next manager
- Replies: 4376
- Views: 381045
Re: Name the next manager
Agreednortheastclaret wrote: ↑Tue May 31, 2022 4:03 pmAny form of abuse is unacceptable, but abuse from a tiny minority of moronic fans should not be used to stop effective communication with the vast majority of other fans.
- Tue May 31, 2022 3:49 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Name the next manager
- Replies: 4376
- Views: 381045
Re: Name the next manager
You’re right it’s not Joey, and if that was the extent of the interactions then that would be great.
It’s not, and there are some very poor examples of abuse and intimidation available. To be clear, this isn’t a singular issue. It’s an issue social media wide.
- Tue May 31, 2022 3:47 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: What sort of investment?
- Replies: 90
- Views: 5691
Re: What sort of investment?
There have been steep learning curves.Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑Tue May 31, 2022 3:41 pmI don't think it would have been the initial plan but they have had a difficult time so far in football ownership.
- Tue May 31, 2022 3:38 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: What sort of investment?
- Replies: 90
- Views: 5691
- Tue May 31, 2022 3:25 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Name the next manager
- Replies: 4376
- Views: 381045
Re: Name the next manager
What is there to tell? The boards reaction to relegation with a positive statement of intent going forward. A positive statement to counteract the negative reports in the national press about the clubs finances. A positive statement about the clubs plan regarding out of contract players and future ...
- Tue May 31, 2022 2:52 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Name the next manager
- Replies: 4376
- Views: 381045
- Tue May 31, 2022 2:50 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Name the next manager
- Replies: 4376
- Views: 381045
Re: Name the next manager
To be fair, after the vitriol aimed at him on Twitter that I saw in recent months, it’s no real surprise that he isn’t posting there. Although I do agree, a small statement of sorts post relegation was the least I expected. But I’m with aggi that I didn’t expect the retained list to be out there un...
- Tue May 31, 2022 2:44 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Name the next manager
- Replies: 4376
- Views: 381045
Re: Name the next manager
What is there to tell?williamjblazkowicz wrote: ↑Tue May 31, 2022 2:09 pmYesterday, Blakesboots was arguing that communication has either stayed the same as under the previous ownership or improved. I'm not too sure about that.
This board has whipped itself into a frenzy of second guessing. That’s nothing to do with the club.
- Tue May 31, 2022 2:41 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Ouzo leaving
- Replies: 34
- Views: 4768
Re: Ouzo leaving
Since he's accepted your wager.... which of you is going to fly to the other's country? The winner of the bet or the loser? Since he's undoubtedly an American. Of course it's possible he lives in the UK and is an American. But just curious. There is no bet. Just an agreement that if we don’t return...
- Mon May 30, 2022 10:00 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Clarets Academy Cup - free entry tomorrrow
- Replies: 18
- Views: 1989
Re: Clarets Academy Cup - free entry tomorrrow
Not my department
- Mon May 30, 2022 9:28 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Ouzo leaving
- Replies: 34
- Views: 4768
- Mon May 30, 2022 9:28 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Ouzo leaving
- Replies: 34
- Views: 4768
Re: Ouzo leaving
Surely you can make an exception,look at it as a donation to charity. You seem to duck out of all the big calls. As you are no doubt an American perhaps you have not heard of the phrase “ Put your money where your mouth is” You certainly seem to have a lot of mouth. I have heard it, no exceptions.
- Mon May 30, 2022 9:18 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Ouzo leaving
- Replies: 34
- Views: 4768
- Mon May 30, 2022 3:18 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Name the next manager
- Replies: 4376
- Views: 381045
- Mon May 30, 2022 1:44 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Academy coaches
- Replies: 114
- Views: 8194
Re: Academy coaches
Several so far appears to be Birmingham who have become the first club to have had their Cat 1 status removed. They had some horrendous issues. I believe we were fine for Cat 1 at the time and would have passed the audit. I’d have expected nothing less with Pepper’s background. We can all believe t...
- Mon May 30, 2022 1:40 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Academy coaches
- Replies: 114
- Views: 8194
- Mon May 30, 2022 1:39 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Academy coaches
- Replies: 114
- Views: 8194
Re: Academy coaches
The difference is that the majority of fans that go to away matches know who Claret Tony is can have a chat with him. You are very reluctant to say who you are or to make yourself known to other fans. What have you got to hide ? No that isn’t a difference. That’s changing the discussion points. I h...
- Mon May 30, 2022 1:17 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Vincent Kompany Tactics
- Replies: 118
- Views: 9680
- Mon May 30, 2022 12:52 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Ouzo leaving
- Replies: 34
- Views: 4768
Re: Ouzo leaving
Really happy to be proved wrong and ALK get us back to the big time within three seasons but if they don't...... The doubters will be shown correct and to see the likes of Mercer and Beattie shown the front door seems from the outside bizarre Brexit-what is/was that? Another neologism perhaps with ...
- Mon May 30, 2022 12:38 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Academy coaches
- Replies: 114
- Views: 8194
Re: Academy coaches
Alastair Campbell puts less spin on things than I have just read there. We do all make mistakes. But not one where the consequences cost our club many many millions of pounds. There’s no spin. It’s a literal discussion about your points and how they align with my own. Your right, the scales are dif...
- Mon May 30, 2022 12:32 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Academy coaches
- Replies: 114
- Views: 8194
Re: Academy coaches
I'm all for dissenting opinions breaking echo chambers and cliques up but Im not sure that hyper partisan uncritical commentary one way is a solution to hyper partisan uncritical commentary the other way. I take your point. I don’t feel I’ve been ‘hyper partisan uncritical’. I offered caution about...
- Mon May 30, 2022 12:29 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Academy coaches
- Replies: 114
- Views: 8194
Re: Academy coaches
What I do know is that under the previous ownership and with Jon Pepper, BFC had a Cat 1 academy. The ownership changed, Pepper departed shortly afterwards and it appears those who took over are not of the same calibre, hence the impending downgrade. I am not a believer in coincidence. The club was...
- Mon May 30, 2022 12:20 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Academy coaches
- Replies: 114
- Views: 8194
Re: Academy coaches
A fan of the club, no more, no less!
- Mon May 30, 2022 12:06 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Academy coaches
- Replies: 114
- Views: 8194
Re: Academy coaches
If I’m honest I don’t think the split in fan base stems from lack of communication. I think it stems from the debt and the subsequent issues arising afterwords. ALK have somehow got to get the fan base as a whole to get back supporting the vision. Not sure how they manage that tbh. I can see your p...
- Mon May 30, 2022 11:55 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Academy coaches
- Replies: 114
- Views: 8194
Re: Academy coaches
I think this thread highlights the massive problem ALK have. To be successful you need everyone pushing in the same direction from the owners down to the Fans. Right now it definitely feels like there are two sides. Pro and Anti ALK I agree with the pull together sentiment and that’s the direction ...
- Mon May 30, 2022 11:52 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Academy coaches
- Replies: 114
- Views: 8194
Re: Academy coaches
Without cause? The club has been on a downward spiral since the take over. We have no manager. We have been relegated. We are in debt. Tens of millions of pounds of debt. Our academy is at risk of losing Cat 1 status. Communication is virtually non existent. The website and online shop are an amate...
- Mon May 30, 2022 11:42 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Academy coaches
- Replies: 114
- Views: 8194
Re: Academy coaches
Oh dear - herts is in trouble now. You still claiming to be a fan of the club. Why don’t you tell people who you are. Herts isn’t in trouble, those are your words. I have read many, many comments from you on this message board when you have called out people for using anything they can to hit out a...
- Mon May 30, 2022 11:34 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Academy coaches
- Replies: 114
- Views: 8194
- Mon May 30, 2022 11:33 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Academy coaches
- Replies: 114
- Views: 8194
Re: Academy coaches
We had. Then Alan Pace took over the club..... And comments like this is why people sometimes chose to close up shop. I can understand that fans are emotionally invested in their club and that’s a positive thing. Yet, they then take every opportunity, without cause or reason to swing away at the cl...
- Mon May 30, 2022 11:05 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Vincent Kompany Tactics
- Replies: 118
- Views: 9680
- Mon May 30, 2022 11:03 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Academy coaches
- Replies: 114
- Views: 8194
Re: Academy coaches
We would all like to think that it is achievable that BFC should have a Cat 1 academy.Lancasterclaret wrote: ↑Mon May 30, 2022 10:55 amBy moving forward positively, I take it you mean maintaining or getting back our Category 1 status?
- Mon May 30, 2022 10:48 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Academy coaches
- Replies: 114
- Views: 8194
Re: Academy coaches
Got to agree tbh. Even if you're frustrated enough to feel name calling is warranted or not it lowers the tone of the debate and also makes it easy for points to be disregarded and the discussion derailed into tit for tat insults. There's plenty of substantial ways to critique and challenge his pos...
- Mon May 30, 2022 8:33 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Academy coaches
- Replies: 114
- Views: 8194
Re: Academy coaches
I have been certain from his very 1st post that Blakesboots is in fact Alan Pace or if not is directly posting on his behalf. Not in one sentence in any of his ramblings and waffle has he once in anyway criticised Alan Pace or ALK He has turned down many invites for a coffee ( as he doesn’t drink a...
- Sun May 29, 2022 7:55 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Academy coaches
- Replies: 114
- Views: 8194
Re: Academy coaches
I think the sarcasm has been missed.
- Sun May 29, 2022 5:58 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Academy coaches
- Replies: 114
- Views: 8194
Re: Academy coaches
You'd been trying to rile me up previously and rather than engage with me in good faith just replied to a message with Ok boomer. Hardly the sincere, respectable debate you're claiming to champion. You'll also notice I literally just said that I nor I would imagine most fans are expecting any of th...
- Sun May 29, 2022 5:41 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Academy coaches
- Replies: 114
- Views: 8194
Re: Academy coaches
What job do you do Bill?
- Sun May 29, 2022 5:37 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Academy coaches
- Replies: 114
- Views: 8194
Re: Academy coaches
You did it with me early on, resorting to "Ok boomer" nonsense when you couldn't get a rise with other provocative comments. Unless someone else was at the helm of the account at the time. Which given your consistent unconditional support of the ownership, and registration date, would make sense if...
- Sun May 29, 2022 3:07 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Academy coaches
- Replies: 114
- Views: 8194
Re: Academy coaches
We’ve always had an interest in the youth side of the club here. We’ve raised thousands of pounds for the academy and I’m not having you coming on here like some academy King Dick telling us what we can and can’t discuss. You even ridiculously told us it was dangerous to discuss it, you’ve tried to...
- Sun May 29, 2022 2:28 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Academy coaches
- Replies: 114
- Views: 8194
Re: Academy coaches
They’re not but not all u23s are adults.
- Sun May 29, 2022 2:27 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Academy coaches
- Replies: 114
- Views: 8194
Re: Academy coaches
Learnings and opportunities to get things right? This is a multi million pound business that has been running things for years. It's not a new business with no experience of safeguarding. No business sets out to make a mistake. Yet they all do, and these mistakes happen daily. If you’ve got the tim...
- Sun May 29, 2022 2:25 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Academy coaches
- Replies: 114
- Views: 8194
Re: Academy coaches
And this is why we shouldn’t have someone coming on this board telling us what we can and can’t talk about. We’ve been through that, you were shown to be wrong in what you accused me of. It is right to offer caution about certain subjects. I have my own thoughts on the academy and what should remai...
- Sun May 29, 2022 11:06 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Flying banner at Etihad stopping investment?
- Replies: 73
- Views: 5179
Re: Flying banner at Etihad stopping investment?
If one person on your street f**ks sheep on their front lawn. Someone not wanting to buy a house on that street doesn't mean they think everyone on that street f**ks sheep. Just one is enough. Sadly this still echos globally. A global market that is under pressure to demonstrate its commitment to i...
- Sun May 29, 2022 11:00 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Academy coaches
- Replies: 114
- Views: 8194
Re: Academy coaches
If coaches is one of the reasons it doesn't surprise me. Even when Dyche was here we had only one outfield first team coach. U23s and u18s don't even have an outfield coach. Not many teens have operate with so little staff. In an era where teams have coaches dedicated to set pieces and ball control...
- Sun May 29, 2022 10:56 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Academy coaches
- Replies: 114
- Views: 8194
Re: Academy coaches
The club could and should ensure that everything is in place to protect and develop the players in the academy. I know you’re likely to spin everything to deflect criticism from Pace and co. but this doesn’t sound good. I can agree with that. If there are failings then there’s learning to undertake...
- Sun May 29, 2022 10:09 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Academy coaches
- Replies: 114
- Views: 8194
Re: Academy coaches
I do wish the club would at least try to improve communication with its fans as it seems, on a number of levels, that fans are becoming increasingly irrelevant. I don’t mean that the senior management have to report on every single event but on important matters like the academy silence is golden. ...