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by TVC15
Mon Jun 17, 2019 10:50 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: BBC Salaries
Replies: 111
Views: 1881

Re: BBC Salaries

Long live the BBC, do what you want as long as it enables you to compete with the commercial crap TV companies Totally agree - quality of programmes and dramas in particular is excellent. Fantastic value for only £3 a week. There are things the BBC does that I disagree with - mainly some of its dec...
by TVC15
Mon Jun 17, 2019 10:13 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 1430
Views: 48802

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Brilliant analysis as ever from Swiss Ramble. A fascinating look at a very well run Barnsley club and some particularly insightful graphs comparing the 23 Championship clubs......take a look at the Matchday Income graphs and evidence that incredibly 16 of the 23 Championship clubs had a higher Matc...
by TVC15
Mon Jun 17, 2019 10:09 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Two central defenders to choose from last ten years
Replies: 44
Views: 1339

Re: ARTICLE: Two central defenders to choose from last ten years

Apparently on his day, Andre Bikey was the best centre half in the championship. Claret Spice said he was the most athletic player he'd ever seen. He had a backside bigger than Rusty Lee and his day was Thursday. Cost us a parachute payment and his best game for burnley on the Turf was for reading....
by TVC15
Mon Jun 17, 2019 9:22 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley Express Tuesday edition to go
Replies: 9
Views: 826

Re: Burnley Express Tuesday edition to go

It’s a shame but we could be nearing the end of a great local institution.
Way of the world unfortunately - for whatever reason people prefer to subscribe to rubbish like the daily mail online
by TVC15
Mon Jun 17, 2019 6:32 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Horse Racing Nap League - Royal Ascot 2019
Replies: 12
Views: 126

Re: Horse Racing Nap League - Royal Ascot 2019

2:30 Laurens
3:05 Threat
3:40 Battaash
4:20 Phoenix of Spain (NAP)
5:00 Mancini
5:35 First Nation
by TVC15
Sun Jun 16, 2019 2:04 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: BFC TRANSFER NEWS (MUST CONTAIN LINK)
Replies: 165
Views: 24784

Re: BFC TRANSFER NEWS (MUST CONTAIN LINK)

I don’t think we should (or will) buy Dawson unless Tarks is going...i’d rather keep Tarks but not sure we will have much of a choice if he wants to go.
by TVC15
Sun Jun 16, 2019 1:55 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: BFC TRANSFER NEWS (MUST CONTAIN LINK)
Replies: 165
Views: 24784

Re: BFC TRANSFER NEWS (MUST CONTAIN LINK)

KRBFC wrote:I'm yet to see much proof he's PL quality tbh, pretty sure when he became a regular, results at WBA started to plummet.


That will be Dawson’s fault will it ?
Do you think West Brom’s defensive performance improved or “plummeted” after Dawson became a regular ?
by TVC15
Sun Jun 16, 2019 1:51 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: BFC TRANSFER NEWS (MUST CONTAIN LINK)
Replies: 165
Views: 24784

Re: BFC TRANSFER NEWS (MUST CONTAIN LINK)

You’re right. Keane and Tarks were great signings, two young centre halves who had the potential to significantly improve, and brought massive dividends to our team. Dawson (like I just said) is 29. And would cost more than either of them two. Yes we can afford it, but it doesn’t mean in my opinion...
by TVC15
Sun Jun 16, 2019 1:37 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: BFC TRANSFER NEWS (MUST CONTAIN LINK)
Replies: 165
Views: 24784

Re: BFC TRANSFER NEWS (MUST CONTAIN LINK)

Goobs wrote:*3 as he spent last year in the championship.


5-1 = 4.....I think
by TVC15
Sun Jun 16, 2019 1:36 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: BFC TRANSFER NEWS (MUST CONTAIN LINK)
Replies: 165
Views: 24784

Re: BFC TRANSFER NEWS (MUST CONTAIN LINK)

I do see the fact he is now 29 and would cost us about 3-5x what was being asked for back then as a negative, yes. No secret our budget is not on the level of the majority of our rivals, the money could be better spent elsewhere in my opinion. Yep - it turned out really bad for us signing Keane and...
by TVC15
Sun Jun 16, 2019 12:57 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: BFC TRANSFER NEWS (MUST CONTAIN LINK)
Replies: 165
Views: 24784

Re: BFC TRANSFER NEWS (MUST CONTAIN LINK)

SGr wrote:Would like to remind everyone, it’s 5 years this summer since we first tried to sign Dawson.


Cheers for reminding us.
You obviously see that as some kind of negative. On the plus side he now has another 4 years of proof he can play in the Premier League.
by TVC15
Sun Jun 16, 2019 9:28 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Boxing tonight
Replies: 53
Views: 1787

Re: Boxing tonight

For those who didn’t stay up.
Check out the ring entrance and check out his defence on the ropes about 9 mins 40 secs in.

https://youtu.be/RIB5nVs4Se8

https://youtu.be/uuckdiAvMTU
by TVC15
Sat Jun 15, 2019 4:03 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: U.S. Open Golf Tipping League
Replies: 52
Views: 1111

Re: U.S. Open Golf Tipping League

Plenty of players can still win this major. It’s been a brilliant watch with the only bad thing being how late it’s on - not finishing till 3am. Pebble Beach looks an incredible course. It’s not stupidly difficult like the recent US Opens which have been heavily criticised by players, fans etc. But ...
by TVC15
Sat Jun 15, 2019 1:23 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Wolves in for Tarkowski
Replies: 235
Views: 15087

Re: Wolves in for Tarkowski

KRBFC wrote:Why are you always so angry?


I’m not - it’s just when I read one of your posts.
What’s your excuse for always talking rubbish ?
by TVC15
Sat Jun 15, 2019 1:22 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Wolves in for Tarkowski
Replies: 235
Views: 15087

Re: Wolves in for Tarkowski

Why are CM pairings or CF pairings any different? The way they receive the ball, the tacking and standing up of opposition players, number of things different really. Plus few clubs play with 2 centre forwards anymore where no club plays with only one CB. Centre forwards should be a lot more 2 foot...
by TVC15
Sat Jun 15, 2019 1:06 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Wolves in for Tarkowski
Replies: 235
Views: 15087

Re: Wolves in for Tarkowski

KRBFC wrote:Can somebody break down the news on Tarkowski?

Can't be bothered to read through 4 pages of TVC15 arguing with himself.


There is no news pr-ick.
Now go away and try and find something else to criticise the club about.
by TVC15
Fri Jun 14, 2019 5:42 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Wolves in for Tarkowski
Replies: 235
Views: 15087

Re: Wolves in for Tarkowski

Your first line answers all the questions......go on,tell us all how much that package is worth, pound notes or percentage,either way its fine. You are talking utter sh-ite. We do not receive the money from Sky because of skybet. We get it because we are in the Premier League and that product is so...
by TVC15
Fri Jun 14, 2019 4:21 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Wolves in for Tarkowski
Replies: 235
Views: 15087

Re: Wolves in for Tarkowski

Lets turn the tables then, you show me the income was £140m and that only £1.4m was from betting sponsorship. By the way,have you seen the sky bet adds on the pitch side adverts, do them for free do they, or come as part of the sky package? We have no choice over the skybet adds - it’s part of the ...
by TVC15
Fri Jun 14, 2019 3:58 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Wolves in for Tarkowski
Replies: 235
Views: 15087

Re: Wolves in for Tarkowski

I never mentioned just shirt sponsorship...skybet is sky, so about 120 million? Taking away the skybet for argument, what is the percentage of income generated by replical shirt sales, or matchday catering, if you think that our second largest income stream is 1% or less. You dont need to provide a...
by TVC15
Fri Jun 14, 2019 1:20 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Wolves in for Tarkowski
Replies: 235
Views: 15087

Re: Wolves in for Tarkowski

Any sensible person can see that Ladbrokes, skybet and funbet account for more than 1% of our income Well just show me the numbers then if that’s easy. It’s a simple question. To be honest I was just referring to the shirt sponsorship deal - I forgot about Ladbrokes. I wasn’t aware we got anything ...
by TVC15
Fri Jun 14, 2019 1:16 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Stoke City
Replies: 28
Views: 3591

Re: Stoke City

Foshiznik wrote:Bamboozle on Ceefax?! Channel 4 text thank you very much!


Ok - I was only 2 years old so my memory’s not great. I do remember getting all the questions right and being described as a child prodigy....I have a selective memory you see !
by TVC15
Fri Jun 14, 2019 12:34 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Wolves in for Tarkowski
Replies: 235
Views: 15087

Re: Wolves in for Tarkowski

Partly because I'm professionally cynical and don't believe that many football pronouncements aren't favourably spun. For instance that £58m could well be (I'd assume it would be) before social security costs which would bump it up. Then there are going to be bonuses that we can't avoid paying, for...
by TVC15
Fri Jun 14, 2019 11:39 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Wolves in for Tarkowski
Replies: 235
Views: 15087

Re: Wolves in for Tarkowski

I'd be very, very surprised if this is the case. I'm sure that players will have appearance bonuses and the rest, there's no way you'd be able to convince players to sign up to bonuses that are 100% dependent on the team as a whole and not an individual's performance. Never said 100% - I said that ...
by TVC15
Fri Jun 14, 2019 11:30 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Wolves in for Tarkowski
Replies: 235
Views: 15087

Re: Wolves in for Tarkowski

It was something like that but I take that kind of thing with a pinch of salt. Why ? Our accounts seem to suggest that is the kind of structure we operate. We know that we don’t pay the biggest wages and we won’t go above a certain amount for individual players. Of course we have increased that upp...
by TVC15
Fri Jun 14, 2019 11:13 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Wolves in for Tarkowski
Replies: 235
Views: 15087

Re: Wolves in for Tarkowski

But even if that is true, we will have paid bonuses again this season for surviving, winning games, getting to 40 points, and ultimately finishing in the third quarter of the league. How much of the bonus point that unlocks none of us can know, but you'd imagine we worry more about incentivising th...
by TVC15
Fri Jun 14, 2019 10:29 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Wolves in for Tarkowski
Replies: 235
Views: 15087

Re: Wolves in for Tarkowski

Bear in mind that the £35m or whatever in the bank probably isn't for spending in the Premier League, it will be reserves for when we go down. Realistically though the way we're operating we'll still make a decent profit in 18/19 even if we don't sell anyone else. (I think it will be a little lower...
by TVC15
Fri Jun 14, 2019 9:49 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Wolves in for Tarkowski
Replies: 235
Views: 15087

Re: Wolves in for Tarkowski

It’s sometimes easy to forget in all this talk of “little old Burnley”.....having one of the smallest budgets in the league, our ground etc etc that in the last 4 years we have generated total revenue of the best part of half a billion pounds. That will be more revenue than the rest of our history p...
by TVC15
Fri Jun 14, 2019 9:20 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Wolves in for Tarkowski
Replies: 235
Views: 15087

Re: Wolves in for Tarkowski

Grumps wrote:I can assure you its not 1% plus are you aware that sky own a betting company, and advertise at grounds as part of the huge percentage of income they give us.


How can you assure me it’s not 1% ?
Show me the numbers in our accounts that proves it.
by TVC15
Fri Jun 14, 2019 8:46 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Stoke City
Replies: 28
Views: 3591

Re: Stoke City

Teletext ?
Wow !

Can you still play bamboozle on Ceefax ?
by TVC15
Fri Jun 14, 2019 8:45 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Wolves in for Tarkowski
Replies: 235
Views: 15087

Re: Wolves in for Tarkowski

Good job we have all this betting sponsorship Why ? Have you ever read or understood our accounts ? If you had then you would see how little difference these make to our overall revenue or to our profit numbers. What percentage of our revenue has it been in recent years? Less than 1% ? And the diff...
by TVC15
Fri Jun 14, 2019 12:18 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Leeds move for Vydra
Replies: 167
Views: 9981

Re: Leeds move for Vydra

I ain’t reading through all that crap from previous posts like trying to find a needle in a haystack.Simple question is vydra leaving are likely to leave? Nobody on this board knows the answer - hence the posting of “all that crap”. If you want definitive answers on transfers a football forum is pr...
by TVC15
Thu Jun 13, 2019 11:09 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Southampton sign
Replies: 26
Views: 2554

Re: Southampton sign

I may be wrong but I was sure there was a 10 million loan fee. Meaning they owe us nothing That is wrong. You cannot do that to avoid paying a sell on fee. It would be blatant contractual avoidance. When you see Klopps interview when Ings left it was pretty clear that he had gone for good and there...
by TVC15
Thu Jun 13, 2019 11:01 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Wolves in for Tarkowski
Replies: 235
Views: 15087

Re: Wolves in for Tarkowski

If costs are amortised over the period of the contract then the accounts will surely also include part of the cost of signings from previous seasons. Yes they do - but yet we still make great profits every year which means trading losses in anyone year are not that relevant...it’s what you do over ...
by TVC15
Thu Jun 13, 2019 10:30 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Wolves in for Tarkowski
Replies: 235
Views: 15087

Re: Wolves in for Tarkowski

Player trading is currently running at a significant loss though. Not sure whether that is relevant CT. If you mean that we paid out more in transfer fees than we bought in last year - then it really isn’t that significant in the way the costs are amortised over the length of the contract. The annu...
by TVC15
Thu Jun 13, 2019 10:21 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Wolves in for Tarkowski
Replies: 235
Views: 15087

Re: Wolves in for Tarkowski

Similar operating profit to June'19 of £14m before profit on player trading. Agree with this - think with the Vokes sale we’ll be posting about £20m profit. We have generated significant cumulative profits in the last few years. Don’t mistake cash at bank for profit - 2 completely different things....
by TVC15
Thu Jun 13, 2019 5:12 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Southampton sign
Replies: 26
Views: 2554

Re: Southampton sign

gtclaret wrote:Austin unwanted, Ings on loan only


Southampton committed to buying Ings after initial one year loan period - he becomes their player on 1st July I think - fee £18m and further £2m with appearances.
by TVC15
Thu Jun 13, 2019 1:43 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: The League cup - What's the point?
Replies: 38
Views: 1148

Re: The League cup - What's the point?

Oh that Derek Scott miss at Anfield !
We could have beaten the best team in Europe.

And that Spurs home game under Coyle is still one of my favourite ever games at the Turf with the Chelsea away win on pens up there with my favourite away games in 40 plus years.
by TVC15
Thu Jun 13, 2019 11:10 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: The next Tory Leader..
Replies: 301
Views: 7292

Re: The next Tory Leader..

I've had this conversation with quite a few Green Party people, and LibDem supporters. Corbyn clearly isn't "useless" because he's revived a Labour party that was sinking into oblivion. The membership figures are there for all to see. Before him the party was triangulating itself up its o...
by TVC15
Thu Jun 13, 2019 10:53 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Saints again on opening day
Replies: 57
Views: 3281

Re: ARTICLE: Saints again on opening day

Great chance to get an early victory against a likely relegation rival,we'll need to put points on the board ASAP this season,no excuses we don't have the EL to distract our routine,while it's true you play everyone twice,our cup finals will be against the likes of Brighton,Southampton,and the newl...
by TVC15
Thu Jun 13, 2019 10:12 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: YES! Farage Milkshaked
Replies: 579
Views: 12799

Re: YES! Farage Milkshaked

dsr wrote:You've lost me already. Thought this was about Jo Brand? :?


Good point
I think I may have set up a false opposition !
by TVC15
Thu Jun 13, 2019 10:11 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Saints again on opening day
Replies: 57
Views: 3281

Re: ARTICLE: Saints again on opening day

ClaretTony wrote:135 points will take some getting :D


You can just about get that total through the new hand ball rule and VAR !!
by TVC15
Thu Jun 13, 2019 10:00 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Saints again on opening day
Replies: 57
Views: 3281

Re: ARTICLE: Saints again on opening day

Last match....Champions League v Relegation & Hove Albion. They’ll already be relegated and we’ll just need to avoid an 8-0 defeat to beat Chelsea into 3rd place - which will be handy for the CL qualifying rounds. We will however still finish 67 points behind City and Liverpool who will both fi...
by TVC15
Thu Jun 13, 2019 9:51 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Saints again on opening day
Replies: 57
Views: 3281

Re: ARTICLE: Saints again on opening day

My concern is , with the exception of Norwich, we play all those that are perceived to be sh!te away 1st It’s very easy to overthink the fixture schedule - newly promoted teams, Europe, end of season on the beach etc etc. Upshot is we still play everyone twice and need to get about 40 points. I’m j...
by TVC15
Thu Jun 13, 2019 9:12 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Saints again on opening day
Replies: 57
Views: 3281

Re: ARTICLE: Saints again on opening day

Looks good when listed with those dates, I just hope we can have the majority of those remaining as Saturday 3pm kick offs. With the increase in televised fixtures and the likes of Amazon Prime involved now, Friday night games, Saturday evening and no doubt the first 4 o clock in the morning game f...
by TVC15
Thu Jun 13, 2019 9:02 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: YES! Farage Milkshaked
Replies: 579
Views: 12799

Re: YES! Farage Milkshaked

Comedian makes a joke about a politician - hold the back page. That Mike Yarwood fellow used to do silly impressions of Harold Wilson and Edward Heath and there probably still people who thought he was wrong to mock them. The same outraged type of people people when it was stepped up a level for Spi...
by TVC15
Thu Jun 13, 2019 8:35 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: BFC TRANSFER NEWS (MUST CONTAIN LINK)
Replies: 165
Views: 24784

Re: BFC TRANSFER NEWS (MUST CONTAIN LINK)

I’m sure both Leicester and Wolves are looking abroad but both clubs are more than capable of spending £40m on an individual player....£40m signings are now the territory of a number of “2nd tier” clubs in our league. Look at the money they are now talking about for Maguire and Maddison - if the ask...
by TVC15
Thu Jun 13, 2019 8:23 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: The next Tory Leader..
Replies: 301
Views: 7292

Re: The next Tory Leader..

A journalist did ask about it. The response was for Johnson to ignore it and MPs to boo the journalist. What a standard of political discourse we've reached. He did answer it - as he knew it was coming. But because he was running that press conference it was quickly moved on. Will be interesting if...
by TVC15
Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:25 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: BFC TRANSFER NEWS (MUST CONTAIN LINK)
Replies: 165
Views: 24784

Re: BFC TRANSFER NEWS (MUST CONTAIN LINK)

VVD... Don’t know what he’s on about - a scout worth his wage can tell a good player from a bad one regardless of league. We regularly sign non-league development players. Ok - that was 4 years ago. Don’t understand your point about signing non league development players - how many of them have bee...
by TVC15
Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:18 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: BFC TRANSFER NEWS (MUST CONTAIN LINK)
Replies: 165
Views: 24784

Re: BFC TRANSFER NEWS (MUST CONTAIN LINK)

CoolClaret wrote:Andy Robertson, Ryan Fraser


Robertson 5 years ago
Fraser 6 years ago
by TVC15
Wed Jun 12, 2019 10:41 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: BFC TRANSFER NEWS (MUST CONTAIN LINK)
Replies: 165
Views: 24784

Re: BFC TRANSFER NEWS (MUST CONTAIN LINK)

Probably because it’s a bit hard to assess how good these players are when they are playing pub teams most weeks. How many players in the last 5 years have made the switch from the Scottish league to a top championship team or a bottom half premier league team and made the step up ? I can think of t...

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