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by TVC15
Sun Jul 05, 2020 11:29 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Junior Stanislas
Replies: 70
Views: 2934

Re: Junior Stanislas

I'd have Traore now he's settled down and grown into English football. He looked a complete waste of a wage when he first rocked up and if I remember rightly he was on close to £60k and still got a pay rise when his club got relegated. Everyone who dismissed him then was right with that opinion he ...
by TVC15
Sun Jul 05, 2020 8:58 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Junior Stanislas
Replies: 70
Views: 2934

Re: Junior Stanislas

Don’t dispute we need someone who plays more than they do. But I’ve could do worse than having jbg and Stanislas rotating. Rotating for the physio room ? Stanislas has definitely been happier since leaving us and has looked a lot better player. There was a period I remember when he was up there wit...
by TVC15
Sat Jul 04, 2020 7:16 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Horse Racing Nap League - Derby Weekend July 2020
Replies: 92
Views: 771

Re: Horse Racing Nap League - Derby Weekend July 2020

1:15 Risk of Thunder
1:50 Lazuli
2:25 Spanish Mission
3:00 Mutasaamy
3:35 Enable
4:05 Magny Cours (NAP)
4:35 Dean Street Doll
5:10 Campari
by TVC15
Sat Jul 04, 2020 2:58 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Priti Patel
Replies: 89
Views: 3171

Re: Priti Patel

Attracts a lot of criticism, does Priti. But everybody will surely agree how good it is to see somebody from her background succeeding. Do you mean background as in the daughter of someone who once stood for UKIP ? I find it quite strange when a migrant who was welcomed to this country then decides...
by TVC15
Sat Jul 04, 2020 11:05 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Horse Racing Nap League - Derby Weekend July 2020
Replies: 92
Views: 771

Re: Horse Racing Nap League - Derby Weekend July 2020

1.50 Modern News
2.25 Safe Voyage
3.00 Jonny Drama
3.40 Frankly Darling
4.15 Cloak of Spirits
4.55 Kameko ( NAP)
5.35 Markazi
by TVC15
Sat Jul 04, 2020 8:40 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Investor
Replies: 244
Views: 12730

Re: Investor

There has been another approach to amortisation, exercised by that most financially creative organisation - Derby County - they have been formally charged by the EFL for it (back in January) and we are still awaiting the hearing found here - https://www.accountingweb.co.uk/business/finance-strategy...
by TVC15
Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:37 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: A first. I agree with Jose Mourinho.
Replies: 52
Views: 1900

Re: A first. I agree with Jose Mourinho.

Firstly let me make it clear that I am happy that this happened to Mourinho....could not have picked a better person to be robbed with a decision like that ! But it was a ridiculous decision and it’s partly because the handball rule is daft. But without VAR it would not have been given by an officia...
by TVC15
Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:24 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Investor
Replies: 244
Views: 12730

Re: Investor

Nods, in the section you highlighted I was drawing attention to the fact that free transfers are never completely free. When it comes to accounting for those things they have to be included in the balance sheet, but they can be referenced in a couple of ways. The same is true for player amortisatio...
by TVC15
Fri Jul 03, 2020 9:22 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Investor
Replies: 244
Views: 12730

Re: Investor

I don't fully agree but I see where you're coming from (I'm not sure where my knowledge stands compared to what TVC15 has forgotten). This bit isn't correct though: signing on fees and agent fees get capitalised as a transfer fee would. It was my job for a few years !! The likes of Man City, Celtic...
by TVC15
Fri Jul 03, 2020 8:19 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Investor
Replies: 244
Views: 12730

Re: Investor

LTL
Not even reading that....I am pretty sure I’ve forgotten more about football finances than you will ever know or understand.
by TVC15
Fri Jul 03, 2020 9:20 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Investor
Replies: 244
Views: 12730

Re: Investor

but the recruitment in support of the promotion or bust ethos at Middlesbrough was frightening. During the past couple of seasons they bought some very average players for high prices ( mostly on credit which is yet to be paid off ) and subsequently sold quite a few of them at a loss. If it wasn't ...
by TVC15
Thu Jul 02, 2020 11:27 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Ghislaine Maxwell
Replies: 65
Views: 3520

Re: Ghislaine Maxwell

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by TVC15
Thu Jul 02, 2020 1:16 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Burnley confirm ticket refunds
Replies: 508
Views: 24480

Re: ARTICLE: Burnley confirm ticket refunds

Fez wrote:
Thu Jul 02, 2020 12:56 pm
Nothing short of a farce all this.

Can you not get a refund on the money paid for next seasons ticket then?
Nope
by TVC15
Thu Jul 02, 2020 12:48 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Burnley confirm ticket refunds
Replies: 508
Views: 24480

Re: ARTICLE: Burnley confirm ticket refunds

Thing is UnderSiege - if you would have followed your mantra of paying up front and all in one go for your season ticket (or indeed for lots of things) you could have already forked out up to around £500 and possibly a lot more if you are buying for family. And right now you would be quite a lot out...
by TVC15
Thu Jul 02, 2020 10:32 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Burnley confirm ticket refunds
Replies: 508
Views: 24480

Re: ARTICLE: Burnley confirm ticket refunds

The transfers will take time which is not unreasonable. If you don’t pay for your seat you must know you aren’t reserving it .No organisation in the world would let you cancel your payment and give you the same perks. And despite a poster on here insisting that this was an option you are correct - ...
by TVC15
Wed Jul 01, 2020 9:10 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Quiz: The largest countries in the world
Replies: 22
Views: 740

Re: Quiz: The largest countries in the world

Bosscat wrote:
Wed Jul 01, 2020 9:04 pm
16 out of 17
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16th attempt BC ?!!
:)
by TVC15
Wed Jul 01, 2020 6:08 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Times We Struggled to Find 11 Players
Replies: 53
Views: 1405

Re: Times We Struggled to Find 11 Players

Rowls wrote:
Wed Jul 01, 2020 5:49 pm
3 of whom were youth players and not really up to professional standard.

Some interesting names on that programme...

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Especially interesting one in the Dundee squad !!
by TVC15
Wed Jul 01, 2020 2:39 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Leicester
Replies: 41
Views: 2100

Re: Leicester

Seriously stop trolling you sad little man. I’m not “slagging off” any company - I’m telling you what I heard on the radio YESTERDAY and the reports in the press around Boo Hoo contravening lockdown rules. If an MP is talking about other sweat shops in Leicester today that’s fine - I am not disputin...
by TVC15
Wed Jul 01, 2020 2:14 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Leicester
Replies: 41
Views: 2100

Re: Leicester

Grumps wrote:
Wed Jul 01, 2020 1:55 pm
Certainly not that type of factory they are talking about today
I said yesterday and I simply reported what the MP had said on the radio.
I’d rather you do what you said previously and block my posts....
by TVC15
Wed Jul 01, 2020 1:52 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Leicester
Replies: 41
Views: 2100

Re: Leicester

The other areas I have heard mentioned today in terms of potentially the next local outbreaks are Bradford, Oldham and Kirklees. The garment factory in Leicester that is being reported as contravening lockdown rules and and not operating appropriate social distancing measures is Boo Hoo. I heard a l...
by TVC15
Wed Jul 01, 2020 1:45 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: A goodbye message from Jeff
Replies: 63
Views: 3936

Re: A goodbye message from Jeff

TVC15 Posted "Idon’t think we ever made up a song for him ?" Really ??? I take it you don't go to live game's then, because if you did you would know he's better than Cristiano I’ve had a season ticket and gone to all home games and many away games for the last 3 decades. But can’t say I ever heard...
by TVC15
Wed Jul 01, 2020 12:44 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Burnley confirm ticket refunds
Replies: 508
Views: 24480

Re: ARTICLE: Burnley confirm ticket refunds

I recall reading this, but didn't want to risk losing my seat. I have had experiences previously where the club have said one thing and done another. Has the original article on the official website been edited? No I am pretty sure it hasn’t been edited. I spoke to someone in the ticket office arou...
by TVC15
Wed Jul 01, 2020 12:11 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Burnley confirm ticket refunds
Replies: 508
Views: 24480

Re: ARTICLE: Burnley confirm ticket refunds

I could have yes and you can also go find out yourself I have checked the original announcement which is still on their website and it does not mention anything about being able to retain seats - it says that you can cancel your direct debit and it will waive any cancellation fees. But since you se...
by TVC15
Wed Jul 01, 2020 11:59 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Burnley confirm ticket refunds
Replies: 508
Views: 24480

Re: ARTICLE: Burnley confirm ticket refunds

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Wed Jul 01, 2020 11:57 am
I used the word paused as this method allowed you to retain your seat.
You could have just used the correct word - cancel !!

Where does it say you could retain your seat cancelling your direct debit ?
by TVC15
Wed Jul 01, 2020 11:56 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Burnley confirm ticket refunds
Replies: 508
Views: 24480

Re: ARTICLE: Burnley confirm ticket refunds

No, you could stop payments but retain your seat which seems some feared giving up but then would have to pay upfront. Genuine question - is that correct ? You could cancel your direct debit but still retain your seat ? If that is the case then I can’t remember seeing this. I think quite a lot more...
by TVC15
Wed Jul 01, 2020 11:19 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Burnley confirm ticket refunds
Replies: 508
Views: 24480

Re: ARTICLE: Burnley confirm ticket refunds

Everybody was offered this option, as well as pausing it or paying it. For those who are paying and happy to continue paying isn't your business to tell them they shouldn't be, but had they paused it all then a few months down the line crowds resumed and people had to pay all in 1 go you would be t...
by TVC15
Wed Jul 01, 2020 10:38 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Burnley confirm ticket refunds
Replies: 508
Views: 24480

Re: ARTICLE: Burnley confirm ticket refunds

Collecting existed direct debits is obviously an automated process so it’s not a fair comparison to processing the refunds for last season - they are completely different processes with the last one being a manual one. That’s not me saying that the club should be still taking direct debits - but tha...
by TVC15
Wed Jul 01, 2020 10:23 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: A goodbye message from Jeff
Replies: 63
Views: 3936

Re: A goodbye message from Jeff

Hardly the most effusive praise. A steady enough player but nothing special Exactly what I thought when I read it. I’m not sure he ever thought himself that he was taken to heart by our fans....or even by Dyche. There were many period of his career when he was the first to be substituted early in t...
by TVC15
Wed Jul 01, 2020 10:02 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: FA Distance Themselves From BLM Movement
Replies: 136
Views: 5885

Re: FA Distance Themselves From BLM Movement

Do you honestly think that the BLM movement is the correct vehicle to achieve what they want? I don’t. As for dinosaurs at the FA, I think it can be argued that their rethink to openly backing BLM shows they are a little more in touch than you give them credit for. By the way, it’s absolutely right...
by TVC15
Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:09 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: FA Distance Themselves From BLM Movement
Replies: 136
Views: 5885

Re: FA Distance Themselves From BLM Movement

The Kick It Out campaign has been campaigning against racism in football for decades now. It was commonplace when they started. Now it is, thankfully, rare. I don't speak for black people. Nobody does. Not even BLM. Black people are capable of speaking for themselves. What I suspect is that a lot o...
by TVC15
Tue Jun 30, 2020 9:52 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: FA Distance Themselves From BLM Movement
Replies: 136
Views: 5885

Re: FA Distance Themselves From BLM Movement

Which makes it all the stranger and sadder that they adopted the slogan of a highly politicized movement and dropped their own, very successful anti-racism message. What was “very successful” about their anti racism message ? I haven’t heard many of the prominent black players describe it like that...
by TVC15
Tue Jun 30, 2020 2:26 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Times We Struggled to Find 11 Players
Replies: 53
Views: 1405

Re: Times We Struggled to Find 11 Players

Thomas was also brought in under Stan not Cotterill wasn’t he ?
It was Sinclair who Cotts brought in
by TVC15
Tue Jun 30, 2020 10:32 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Finances-you decide.
Replies: 25
Views: 1324

Re: Finances-you decide.

Budget might be nearer £140 million, if we continue to perform till the end of this season i.e. £110 m (TV money; £20 m for finishing, say, 10th in PL; £10 m (other income e.g. sponsorship, ticket sales (assuming we have had the money here and can generate some next season - Covid allowing). I'd ho...
by TVC15
Tue Jun 30, 2020 10:24 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Finances-you decide.
Replies: 25
Views: 1324

Re: Finances-you decide.

Injuries could be down to the indoor pitch they installed that causes impact injuries apparently. It’s on one of the videos of the opening of the new training ground somewhere. I went to one of the openings of this where SD gave a presentation to around 50 of us and took us on a tour around the tra...
by TVC15
Tue Jun 30, 2020 8:33 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Finances-you decide.
Replies: 25
Views: 1324

Re: Finances-you decide.

Working on Quickenthetempo's figures of Wage bill 90m Transfer fund 20m Running cost/improvements 20m I'd say the wage bill is a tad high given our turnover as I think running costs/improvements might be also. In terms of transfer funds I'd suggest 40-50m to hopefully bring in 3 or 4 decent players...
by TVC15
Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:33 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Crystal Palace v Burnley - Player Ratings
Replies: 52
Views: 2463

Re: Crystal Palace v Burnley - Player Ratings

Pope 7 Bardsley 8 Tarkowski 9 MoM Mee 9 Taylor 7 Brownhill 9 Cork 8 Westwood 8 Pieters 8 McNeil 9 Vydra 8 Long 7 First half we were brilliant. Vydra ran his you know what’s off up front on his own and his touch was great. McNeil was wanting the ball everywhere and was driving the game. We were knock...
by TVC15
Mon Jun 29, 2020 6:05 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Burnley confirm ticket refunds
Replies: 508
Views: 24480

Re: ARTICLE: Burnley confirm ticket refunds

The cynical side of me feels that the club is stalling on giving refunds, as matchday income has been wiped out since March, and they have found something that is in their control to assist with cashflow. Doubt that very much We are sat there with probably £30m to £40m in the bank. Interest rates a...
by TVC15
Mon Jun 29, 2020 5:54 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Burnley confirm ticket refunds
Replies: 508
Views: 24480

Re: ARTICLE: Burnley confirm ticket refunds

Surely the date when regular DD's are taken is pre-set and nothing to do with the awaited refunds! It is - it was more in relation to adding to frustration of not receiving refunds is the fact that direct debit payments were going out in the same week fans were expecting a refund. I am not suggesti...
by TVC15
Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:56 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: SD
Replies: 199
Views: 9184

Re: Next Manager odds

Longsider wrote:
Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:45 pm
Reading other posts it seems some are convinced Sean is off. So let's have a look at who is in the running for the job. Be warned some of the names make scary reading.

https://www.thesackrace.com/teams/burnley
Some of that list makes me feel queasy.
Pardew - hells teeth
by TVC15
Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:51 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Burnley confirm ticket refunds
Replies: 508
Views: 24480

Re: ARTICLE: Burnley confirm ticket refunds

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:41 pm
What did you expect to happen to the direct debit payments for next season once you agreed to continue with the payments ?
As said it was about the timing - as a few posters have already pointed out.
by TVC15
Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:49 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Burnley confirm ticket refunds
Replies: 508
Views: 24480

Re: ARTICLE: Burnley confirm ticket refunds

You were given the option of cancelling - if you didn't take that option then the direct debit payments will come out. I know - as I said in my post and why many season ticket holders who have sat in the same seats for many years don’t want to cancel their d.d and risk losing their seat. It’s a sep...
by TVC15
Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:37 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Burnley confirm ticket refunds
Replies: 508
Views: 24480

Re: ARTICLE: Burnley confirm ticket refunds

Very few organisations are happy to send all their customers' bank details to the private homes of employees and allow them to process refunds on unencrypted home computers. The flak and damage they would have got if any employee's home computer had been hacked would have been far greater than the ...
by TVC15
Mon Jun 29, 2020 11:20 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: David Bowie - BBC Tonight
Replies: 52
Views: 1648

Re: David Bowie - BBC Tonight

1971..Hunky Dory 1972 ..The rise and fall of Ziggy Stardust 1973..Aladdin Sane The best three Bowie albums released in consecutive years,how creative was he to release those three consecutive albums,which will go down in history as three of the greatest albums of all time....the guy was a genius......
by TVC15
Mon Jun 29, 2020 11:12 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: David Bowie - BBC Tonight
Replies: 52
Views: 1648

Re: David Bowie - BBC Tonight

What's your favourite Bowie song of all time only one allowed I'll put it out there ***Memory of a free festival*** Young Americans if I had to choose one I think. But at least 20 other tracks run this very close. Plus because he has so many brilliant songs many of which are so different to each ot...
by TVC15
Sun Jun 28, 2020 11:38 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: David Bowie - BBC Tonight
Replies: 52
Views: 1648

Re: David Bowie - BBC Tonight

Hard to define what is Bowie's "best stuff" such is the depth and quality of his output, particularly in the '70s. This has been a great set but some tremendous stuff not included : Drive In Saturday, Panic in Detroit, Five Years, Moonage Daydream, Suffragette City, Young Americans, The Jean Genie,...
by TVC15
Sun Jun 28, 2020 11:35 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: David Bowie - BBC Tonight
Replies: 52
Views: 1648

Re: David Bowie - BBC Tonight

Well that was brilliant - mainly because I was surprised how little of it I had actually seen. It was only a couple of years after his Earthling album - which personally I did not like - so not surprising he played a few tracks from this. Played a lot of his big hits but not that much from my favour...
by TVC15
Sun Jun 28, 2020 10:42 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: David Bowie - BBC Tonight
Replies: 52
Views: 1648

Re: David Bowie - BBC Tonight

He was obviously liking Station to Station album that evening.
But didn’t play my username - like he had done at Live Aid
by TVC15
Sun Jun 28, 2020 10:15 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: David Bowie - BBC Tonight
Replies: 52
Views: 1648

Re: David Bowie - BBC Tonight

Absolutely brilliant so far.
I went to Serious Moonlight Tour in 83 at Milton Keynes Bowl - to this day the best live show I have ever seen by a million miles. Will never be beaten....unless we meet up in Heaven !
Also went to Glass Spider Tour at Cardiff Arms Park.
by TVC15
Sun Jun 28, 2020 6:28 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Andre Gray
Replies: 78
Views: 6601

Re: Andre Gray

£18m transfer fee and £3m - £4m a year in wages for a player who is their 4th choice striker.
And then he does this !

The only silver cloud for him is that there are no fans to lambast him at the moment. If (and it’s a big if I know) he has any sense he’ll stay off social media.
by TVC15
Sun Jun 28, 2020 3:19 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Movies you can see again and again
Replies: 108
Views: 2381

Re: Movies you can see again and again

Young Frankenstein Shawshank Few Good Men Man on Fire Mississippi Burning Caddyshack In the pursuit of happiness Dead Poets Society Godfather (all of them) Goodfellas Kes Planes, Trains & Automobiles Scent of a Woman 3 billboards Pulp Fiction Reservoir Dogs Django Inglorious Jackie Brown And many ma...