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by TVC15
Thu Nov 21, 2019 2:31 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley Fans & Hate Crime
Replies: 54
Views: 1209

Re: Burnley Fans & Hate Crime

We know that there’s lots of things we can argue about on this messageboard when it comes to the team, tactics, transfers etc but on this particular subject I don’t understand why it should turn into a slanging match. Anybody who has lived in Burnley or been on a game know that there is a minority o...
by TVC15
Thu Nov 21, 2019 12:43 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley Fans & Hate Crime
Replies: 54
Views: 1209

Re: Burnley Fans & Hate Crime

Not a surprise at all really that we are top of this league. Not sure having potentially more supporters than other teams who are prepared to report the matter is necessarily true...if we have more incidents then by definition it’s more likely that they will be reported. I think in most premier leag...
by TVC15
Thu Nov 21, 2019 10:54 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Cold Call
Replies: 27
Views: 989

Re: Cold Call

Steve1956 wrote:
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Yes Yes Yes


No no no !
by TVC15
Wed Nov 20, 2019 9:34 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: General Election Is On
Replies: 2629
Views: 31937

Re: General Election Is On

Well I would prefer that people who go out to work keep more of the money they earn. Rather than me paying more tax to give handouts to those who stop at home because they get more money that way. I would rather they raised the income tax level and the national insurance level so working people got...
by TVC15
Wed Nov 20, 2019 8:49 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: General Election Is On
Replies: 2629
Views: 31937

Re: General Election Is On

What I am really struggling with, how don’t you grasp it was a lot worse under Labour. I hate arguing for the Tories, but Labours income tax rate was £6000, now its £12500. Now they saying they will raise national insurance to £9000 and eventually to £12500. Why if Labour are the party for the low ...
by TVC15
Wed Nov 20, 2019 8:43 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: General Election Is On
Replies: 2629
Views: 31937

Re: General Election Is On

Add the National Insurance benefit “lies” to the Corporation Tax Tory bullish-it. For years they have said that cutting corporation tax has increased revenues...infact they have said this up until only a few days ago. Now as a result of changing their mind on cutting corporation tax further they are...
by TVC15
Wed Nov 20, 2019 5:55 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Premier League Salaries
Replies: 28
Views: 1221

Re: Premier League Salaries

Where was it reported that Fraser signed a new contract? I believe he's out of contract at the end of this season. Might have been he was offered one ? I remember reading he was after 100k a week and he had been offered a bumper contract in September. Looks like he has decided to run his contract d...
by TVC15
Wed Nov 20, 2019 3:38 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Premier League Salaries
Replies: 28
Views: 1221

Re: Premier League Salaries

It was well reported that Ryan Fraser and Callum Wilson both signed new contracts in the summer of £100k per week. And we know their total wage bill is quite a bit higher than ours. The figures make little sense without knowing the basis for calculation - is it the average for the 25 man squad for e...
by TVC15
Wed Nov 20, 2019 11:05 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Jose New Spurs Manager
Replies: 93
Views: 2257

Re: Jose New Spurs Manager

Gutted about the appointment After being sacked by United I was optimistic that we had seen the back of the cheating slime ball. He then signed for Sky with Roy Keane too - a real double whammy and I have stopped watching any match analysis when these 2 are on - I’d rather watch David Dunn and Colin...
by TVC15
Wed Nov 20, 2019 10:32 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Robbie Blake on Brian Laws appointmemt
Replies: 104
Views: 4090

Re: Robbie Blake on Brian Laws appointmemt

I'm not sure there was a golden chance to get back up. Coyle's team was full of mostly aging journey men or upper end Championship players that played out of their skin to get us in the Premier League and to do what they did. It would have required wholesale changes to get a team back up again. I a...
by TVC15
Wed Nov 20, 2019 9:15 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: General William's, Manchester Rd
Replies: 30
Views: 1776

Re: General William's, Manchester Rd

ZizkovClaret wrote:Bit of an eyesore imo, but i can't imagine they could have afforded to turn down whatever is being paid


It’s not that visible really - hardly noticed it when I nearly crashed driving passed it yesterday !!!
by TVC15
Tue Nov 19, 2019 6:11 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Northern Monkeys - You're being conned
Replies: 103
Views: 2750

Re: Northern Monkeys - You're being conned

taio wrote:Don't like Banks but reckon it will end up being proven to be fake after loads of people have slagged him off for what he didn't say


Every cloud
by TVC15
Tue Nov 19, 2019 1:01 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: “I let the side down”
Replies: 103
Views: 5600

Re: “I let the side down”

We’ll soon be finding whether he sweats or not
by TVC15
Tue Nov 19, 2019 11:47 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: “I let the side down”
Replies: 103
Views: 5600

Re: “I let the side down”

I stay in most Saturday nights ........ and Friday nights and every other night to be honest. Must be an age thing. Saw the interview on Sunday morning. He's more odious and arrogant than I imagined and that was with a mediocre journalist asking the questions. A Ranvir Singh style interview of the ...
by TVC15
Mon Nov 18, 2019 4:48 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Opening Day Thrashings
Replies: 42
Views: 1054

Re: Opening Day Thrashings

Another 3-1 home defeat in the opening game was against Chelsea in 2014. We might have gone in front but it didn't take them long to go 3-1 up and in truth they murdered us that night. Another Fabregas master class I seem to remember. I watched the game from a sports bar in Toronto and Scott Arfiel...
by TVC15
Mon Nov 18, 2019 3:59 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Opening Day Thrashings
Replies: 42
Views: 1054

Re: Opening Day Thrashings

I remember Hendrie getting a hat trick on the Turf for Boro. He was a good player at that level
by TVC15
Mon Nov 18, 2019 3:30 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Opening Day Thrashings
Replies: 42
Views: 1054

Re: Opening Day Thrashings

Lord Beamish wrote:It was truly awful, wasn’t it?


Is it Davis ?
by TVC15
Mon Nov 18, 2019 3:29 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Robbie Blake on Brian Laws appointmemt
Replies: 104
Views: 4090

Re: Robbie Blake on Brian Laws appointmemt

Howe signed Charlie Austin, Danny Ings, Jason Shackell, Sam Vokes, Kieran Trippier and Ben Mee....for a total of less than £5m We quadrupled our money on Austin The rest all played massive parts in getting us promoted under SD. Shackell ended up captain and we still made money when sold him. We made...
by TVC15
Mon Nov 18, 2019 3:18 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Opening Day Thrashings
Replies: 42
Views: 1054

Re: Opening Day Thrashings

If you are brave enough to watch - these are the three goals we conceded https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pkdjLdWq_o Wow - our defence looked like they all had diving boots on. That second goal - who is the no 5 ? Steve Davis ? He looks like he is walking on the moon chasing their player and then d...
by TVC15
Mon Nov 18, 2019 2:58 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Robbie Blake on Brian Laws appointmemt
Replies: 104
Views: 4090

Re: Robbie Blake on Brian Laws appointmemt

Funny how so many slate Laws and yet don't equally slam Howe who did no better, if not worse. Yes, Howe brought in some very good players which eventually Dyche made into a promotion team (with a couple of his own signings), which makes Howe's failings even worse really. Plenty of people criticised...
by TVC15
Mon Nov 18, 2019 1:15 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Robbie Blake on Brian Laws appointmemt
Replies: 104
Views: 4090

Re: Robbie Blake on Brian Laws appointmemt

That's a poor point to make. Every single club in the Premier league has made very poor signings. In SD's case would you say Vydra or Drinkwater (wages wise) have turned out any better? It was tongue in cheek but since you have brought it up Vydra was the leading scorer in the championship and Drin...
by TVC15
Mon Nov 18, 2019 12:36 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Robbie Blake on Brian Laws appointmemt
Replies: 104
Views: 4090

Re: Robbie Blake on Brian Laws appointmemt

What has lack of experience in the Prem got to do with it? Aside from Frank Lampard, Graham Potter didn't have any before becoming Brighton manager, likewise David Moyes. Edit: I'll also add Daniel Farke at Norwich. It's so hard to tell whether a manager will be good enough, unless you give them a ...
by TVC15
Mon Nov 18, 2019 11:44 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Robbie Blake on Brian Laws appointmemt
Replies: 104
Views: 4090

Re: Robbie Blake on Brian Laws appointmemt

Maybe ‘rot set in’ was a little hyperbolic, but it’s a fact that once the euphoria of winning the play-offs had worn off and teams had worked us out at home there was a definite downward trajectory and that this happened before Coyle left. I think that’s one of the reasons he went, he’d realised th...
by TVC15
Mon Nov 18, 2019 11:21 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Robbie Blake on Brian Laws appointmemt
Replies: 104
Views: 4090

Re: Robbie Blake on Brian Laws appointmemt

There’s too much blame here - nobody did that much wrong - The board/ Flood had very little time to find a manager with decent experience (Laws had managed over 700 games) and the appointment was made with half an eye on the worst case scenario. They needed to make the appointment quickly so as Law...
by TVC15
Mon Nov 18, 2019 11:10 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Robbie Blake on Brian Laws appointmemt
Replies: 104
Views: 4090

Re: Robbie Blake on Brian Laws appointmemt

Yep i thought we were excellent against Arsenal in our 1-1 draw and that was just shortly before Coyle left. We did and Fletcher has a perfectly good goal ruled out. I also remember that game for the first 25 minutes when Fabregas gave one of the best displays I have ever seen from any footballer o...
by TVC15
Mon Nov 18, 2019 10:47 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Robbie Blake on Brian Laws appointmemt
Replies: 104
Views: 4090

Re: Robbie Blake on Brian Laws appointmemt

Laws did sign Dean Marney and that was a great signing for Burnley - think he paid about £800k from memory. What I would say though is that I can’t remember many fans (me included) being overly impressed with him as a player under Laws or Howe. It was SD who transformed him as a player and he enjoye...
by TVC15
Sun Nov 17, 2019 9:23 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: General Election Is On
Replies: 2629
Views: 31937

Re: General Election Is On

Elizabeth wrote:Lowbank, while I can't defend Julie Cooper for letting down the leave voters in Burnley, I can say with certainty that she’s on the game


Hells teeth
by TVC15
Sun Nov 17, 2019 10:45 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: “I let the side down”
Replies: 103
Views: 5600

Re: “I let the side down”

Presumably he would have records that been in Pizza Express, for example you would have thought there would be records of the bodyguard on duty. The excessive sweating (or lack of) is in his medical records. What you don’t have, as far as has been published, is any evidence to support the allegatio...
by TVC15
Sun Nov 17, 2019 9:05 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Kammy
Replies: 18
Views: 1831

Re: Kammy

Did he not do ok at Bradford or is my memory playing tricks? I doubt Ben shepherd could carry anyone, he's one of the worst on TV. He carried him on Goals on Sunday for years - kammy can’t even read from the auto cue. Kammy is just naff - feels like he is still stuck in the 1980s with the stuff he ...
by TVC15
Sun Nov 17, 2019 8:47 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: “I let the side down”
Replies: 103
Views: 5600

Re: “I let the side down”

What a f’in idiot. Who the hell is advising him ? He is so far removed from reality it’s unbelievable. What an arrogant snob he must be to think he can do an interview like this and try and use what he thinks is carefully thought out legal type language and think that he is making his position look ...
by TVC15
Sun Nov 17, 2019 8:26 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Kammy
Replies: 18
Views: 1831

Re: Kammy

He seems to have made a very good career for himself at not being very good at stuff. Only just remember him as a player - tough / dirty player from memory Failed as a manager Poor pundit / commentator - who struggles to put together a coherent sentence...but a bit like Merson that has worked to his...
by TVC15
Sun Nov 17, 2019 8:04 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: POWER OF ATTORNEY
Replies: 17
Views: 914

Re: POWER OF ATTORNEY

2 types of power of attorney - a financial affairs and property type one and a health and welfare type one. If you can navigate the forms yourself - it’s £85 per form to register and takes around 12 weeks to get this officially registered. I used a solicitor as it’s not as easy as it first seems - b...
by TVC15
Fri Nov 15, 2019 12:18 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: VAR changes
Replies: 95
Views: 2482

Re: VAR changes

All well and good, however, VAR applies to no more than 1% of all the football played in the UK on any weekend. Do the same Laws of the Game apply at all these matches or are they changed when VAR is present? No VAR involved in the European Championships --why? Presumably because there is not the s...
by TVC15
Fri Nov 15, 2019 10:23 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: VAR changes
Replies: 95
Views: 2482

Re: VAR changes

Embarrassingly poor response to what has been a disaster this season. In my 45 years of following football I can not remember so much negative feeling about the game as we had this year. It’s not just VAR to blame though - the rules for offside and handball are also to blame. For offside it needs ch...
by TVC15
Wed Nov 13, 2019 11:39 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Julie Cooper MP to stand down .... ?
Replies: 342
Views: 9880

Re: Julie Cooper MP to stand down .... ?

Precisely. Why would the 12,500 that voted Tory at the last election switch to the Brexit Party now that Farage has implicitly endorsed Johnson’s deal? And clearly the 6,000 or so Lib Dem voters won’t be switching. So that leaves the 2,500 UKIP voters which the Brexit Party would expect to pick up ...
by TVC15
Tue Nov 12, 2019 7:37 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Tahith Chong
Replies: 18
Views: 1872

Re: Tahith Chong

Aclaret wrote:Thought it was another holiday thread when I saw the title !!.....what position does he play ?


Looking at his cameo performances for United I’m not sure he knows what position he plays himself.
by TVC15
Tue Nov 12, 2019 3:32 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: VAR and Offside
Replies: 30
Views: 694

Re: VAR and Offside

I’d rather have incorrect decisions than the way they are deciding offside with VAR This. And I am also failing to see the point of linesmen this season - they hardly ever make a decision / raise their flag and seem reluctant to give any advice or help to the referee even if the incident is right i...
by TVC15
Tue Nov 12, 2019 2:44 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Atmosphere in the PL.
Replies: 61
Views: 1667

Re: Atmosphere in the PL.

This is absolutely spot on. It MAY be that us "old timers" will have to accept that for footy to move forward and remain successful and that in the "natural evolution" of such things, it will inevitably become more sanitised and less tribal and more corporate and I have thought ...
by TVC15
Tue Nov 12, 2019 11:34 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Atmosphere in the PL.
Replies: 61
Views: 1667

Re: Atmosphere in the PL.

VAR in its current format will definitely make things worse. I note that tit Swarbrick who is in charge of VAR gave his first real interview and scored it so far as a 7 out of 10.....unbelievable !! The VAR people and refs seem to be oblivious to what the rest of football are telling them - includin...
by TVC15
Mon Nov 11, 2019 10:19 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Colin has gone
Replies: 50
Views: 2918

Re: Colin has gone

AlargeClaret wrote:A keen bird watcher in his spare time. and once threatened to kill Bil Oddie after a particularly fractious “ twitching “ session when Colin decided to take a dump in Oddie’s flask


That made me laugh out loud
Is “Oddie’s flask” a euphemism ?

It sounds like a quote from a Viz article !
by TVC15
Mon Nov 11, 2019 10:16 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: 45 million HALLER and 25 million FORNALS ?
Replies: 28
Views: 1853

Re: 45 million HALLER and 25 million FORNALS ?

Don’t forget Van Der Schatt
by TVC15
Mon Nov 11, 2019 7:33 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Colin has gone
Replies: 50
Views: 2918

Re: Colin has gone

Anyone who went to the Joey Barton Q & A in Colne might have an inkling that Colin’s decision to stay on at Cardiff this season may have been motivated by financial reasons (allegedly)
by TVC15
Mon Nov 11, 2019 7:29 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football Index
Replies: 5
Views: 446

Re: Football Index

So pointless signing Ali Koki :D I bought shares in Dwight McNeil, De Bruyne, Felix (athletico madrid), Rodri and McGinn. I started watching Felix play for Madrid - the games were shockingly boring and it suddenly dawned on me “what the hell am I doing ?”.....for the sake of a potential few quid pr...
by TVC15
Mon Nov 11, 2019 7:24 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: 45 million HALLER and 25 million FORNALS ?
Replies: 28
Views: 1853

Re: 45 million HALLER and 25 million FORNALS ?

For every Kante & Mahrez bargain there are ten times (at least) as many flops. Leicester have had plenty themselves with the money they spent from the Kante & Mahrez profits - Slimani, Silva and plenty of others. If you look at their team now it’s noticeable that they have a good core of pla...
by TVC15
Mon Nov 11, 2019 6:34 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Would Taylor, Bardsley and Wood have made a big difference?
Replies: 41
Views: 1646

Re: Would Taylor, Bardsley and Wood have made a big difference?

It was a marginal offside call, but he didn't gain any advantage from leaving himself into a position where he might be given as offside (even pre-VAR -he ran the risk of the linesman making a fractionally wrong call), and he had plenty of time to get back onside once the initial ball was cleared a...
by TVC15
Mon Nov 11, 2019 6:03 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football Index
Replies: 5
Views: 446

Re: Football Index

Anyone use it? Anyone had any success? Had a nibble at it a couple of months ago. I think it’s a glorified online casino. The spread of buy and sell can often be large too. I didn’t lose but I did get bored quickly. The movement in player prices is basically down to them scoring, assisting and play...
by TVC15
Mon Nov 11, 2019 5:54 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Would Taylor, Bardsley and Wood have made a big difference?
Replies: 41
Views: 1646

Re: Would Taylor, Bardsley and Wood have made a big difference?

Completely agree with your first paragraph, and I'm a big fan of the underrated way in which Wood runs the channels and in behind, but I'm a bit surprised the disallowed goal is deemed forgivable. To my mind, he had no reason to be offside then. He had every opportunity to get himself in a position...
by TVC15
Mon Nov 11, 2019 4:58 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Would you rather ... ?
Replies: 46
Views: 1388

Re: Would you rather ... ?

Cup games are always up against it as you have to pay again. Season tickets make sure people go to league games. Discounted prices for cups which equate to around the price we were paying for league games 20 years ago. And even putting aside our dismal run in the cups under Dyche when was the last ...
by TVC15
Mon Nov 11, 2019 3:57 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Would you rather ... ?
Replies: 46
Views: 1388

Re: Would you rather ... ?

You make valid points and all true, but the talk in our what's app group for the next away game is hoping for a good lower league side away in the FA cup. Not any of these premier league games coming up A few are going to Spurs for the stadium. Nobody says they are looking forward to the game. Fans...
by TVC15
Mon Nov 11, 2019 3:33 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Would you rather ... ?
Replies: 46
Views: 1388

Re: Would you rather ... ?

Nice post but not sure about your appraisal of the managers you mentioned. I'll give you Laws who was a dreadful appointment and I thought so at the time of signing him, but there were some decent times under the others and even Judas got us promoted to the PL. Howe was a good manager and has prove...

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