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by Holtyclaret
Sat May 16, 2020 12:45 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Keir Starmer the future
Replies: 400
Views: 12261

Re: Keir Starmer the future

“Majestically“ late and resulted in more deaths than was necessary....if you think that is my or a left wing view check out the Treasury Select Committee chaired by one of your party who concluded that the government has made fundamental mistakes with testing and have now requested the evidence and...
by Holtyclaret
Sat May 16, 2020 12:32 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Keir Starmer the future
Replies: 400
Views: 12261

Re: Keir Starmer the future

That’s utter rubbish - he was calling for that much sooner. He said at PMQs that what was needed was a testing strategy (rather than this ridiculous numbers game - those my words not his). You are correct to put achieved in inverted commas - I’d just say fudged and leave out the commas. Just post t...
by Holtyclaret
Sat May 16, 2020 11:23 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Keir Starmer the future
Replies: 400
Views: 12261

Re: Keir Starmer the future

Just send us some examples of what you mean rather than carry on with this hyperbole. It’s not a difficult ask - you think he’s been out of order, desperate, lacking decorum etc...all those feelings must have come from you watching actual footage of him displaying this. Did he do what all the media...
by Holtyclaret
Sat May 16, 2020 11:21 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Keir Starmer the future
Replies: 400
Views: 12261

Re: Keir Starmer the future

I fail to see where Starmer seems desperate and hasn't acted in anything other than a polite, respectful way. But maybe you can show us some examples of when. He is questioning what for many in the public seem to be questioning: PPE, validity of statistics, care home issues, Testing, future plans a...
by Holtyclaret
Sat May 16, 2020 10:51 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Keir Starmer the future
Replies: 400
Views: 12261

Re: Keir Starmer the future

I'm pretty certain a Corbyn admnistration would have acted quicker and more decisively to events, as have many governments other than those of the loony right. And he would , im certain, now be getting ripped to shreds by the squealing red tops and their infantile gullible readers. Aren’t opinions ...
by Holtyclaret
Sat May 16, 2020 10:49 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Keir Starmer the future
Replies: 400
Views: 12261

Re: Keir Starmer the future

So what should Labour be doing exactly? Patting the Tories on the back, praising them for their absolute shambles of a response? No, just act with a little less desperation and a little more decorum. I’d say mixed bag rather (some howlers) than shambles, unprecedented times where you wouldn’t expec...
by Holtyclaret
Sat May 16, 2020 9:53 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Keir Starmer the future
Replies: 400
Views: 12261

Re: Keir Starmer the future

So it looks like I was correct in my original post, Keir is the future.Ripping Boris apart and exposing Tory incompetence at the same time. The future is ‘ripping Boris apart’ during a global health and economic crisis. Opportunist point scoring I’d call it and to me it makes the Labour Party look ...
by Holtyclaret
Sat May 16, 2020 9:48 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Keir Starmer the future
Replies: 400
Views: 12261

Re: Keir Starmer the future

The circumstances that currently make the job of opposition leader easy include the ineptitude of Johnson, and the coterie of political and intellectual lightweights that surround him. It was hailed as a political master stroke when Johnson (or was it Cummings?) purged their party of anyone of remo...
by Holtyclaret
Sat May 16, 2020 9:42 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Keir Starmer the future
Replies: 400
Views: 12261

Re: Keir Starmer the future

I'd love to know your opinion on the sudden stop of presenting comparison of death rates with other countries soon after it was confirmed The UK had the highest number? As so well presented by Starmer in PMQs on Weds. That slide was always offered with a caveat that the recording of deaths in diffe...
by Holtyclaret
Fri May 15, 2020 10:29 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Keir Starmer the future
Replies: 400
Views: 12261

Re: Keir Starmer the future

Devils_Advocate wrote:
Fri May 15, 2020 10:24 pm
i.e. I'm talking boll*cks and have nothing to base things on but for my inane prejudices
No, I have my opinion based on what I’ve seen as you do. I just don’t overthink things like some.
by Holtyclaret
Fri May 15, 2020 10:27 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Keir Starmer the future
Replies: 400
Views: 12261

Re: Keir Starmer the future

Would your "several others" attempting to undermine include people like Dominic Raab and other cabinet ministers who continually go "off message", appear to either misunderstand or contradict what Johnson and the health experts say, and then have to row back? No they include nandy, Dodds, ashworth ...
by Holtyclaret
Fri May 15, 2020 10:21 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Keir Starmer the future
Replies: 400
Views: 12261

Re: Keir Starmer the future

TheFamilyCat wrote:
Fri May 15, 2020 10:02 pm
Dry yer eyes mate
Do you not think there’s more important issues at the moment than point scoring?

No tears here buddy, just my opinion.
by Holtyclaret
Fri May 15, 2020 10:20 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Keir Starmer the future
Replies: 400
Views: 12261

Re: Keir Starmer the future

Please list with sources or evidence where he has overstepped the mark and lets discuss No, I’m not an anorak like some. I just chose at the start of the outbreak to keep as best informed as I can. This is just my personal opinion based on watching a lot news, bbc parliament channel, daily briefing...
by Holtyclaret
Fri May 15, 2020 9:54 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Keir Starmer the future
Replies: 400
Views: 12261

Re: Keir Starmer the future

As has been pointed out many times, it's exactly the opposite. As Leader of the Opposition you have to walk a tightrope in times of National Emergency otherwise you will be accused of undermining the government's efforts and a lack of national spirit, but at the same time you have to question decis...
by Holtyclaret
Fri May 15, 2020 9:32 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Keir Starmer the future
Replies: 400
Views: 12261

Re: Keir Starmer the future

Just think it’s a **** trick to continuously try to attack the government (it’s more than constructive criticism), using hindsight while they have much more pressing matters to attend to. Plenty of time for dissecting how it’s been dealt with at a later date when enquiries can take place and the cou...
by Holtyclaret
Fri May 15, 2020 8:47 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Keir Starmer the future
Replies: 400
Views: 12261

Re: Keir Starmer the future

I know exactly what he means. Easiest job in the world, leader of the opposition whilst the government fire fight a global emergency. Hindsight can make folk appear better at their role and more intelligent than they actually are. That evil eyed woman wheeled out by labour on question time seems abo...
by Holtyclaret
Fri May 15, 2020 8:26 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Covid-19
Replies: 13866
Views: 280885

Re: Covid-19

martin_p wrote:
Fri May 15, 2020 8:18 pm
The latest infection rates are up.
The reported value of r is between 0.7 and 1 is what’s been reported today, I know.
by Holtyclaret
Fri May 15, 2020 8:00 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Covid-19
Replies: 13866
Views: 280885

Re: Covid-19

So Wuhan to Tenerife to Luton, right then what happens when you check in at Tenerife or try to? Because ports weren’t completely locked down though, the next best option is being taken by introducing quarantine when numbers (hopefully) become smaller. Anyway, I’m sure that’s an old row on here but i...
by Holtyclaret
Fri May 15, 2020 7:05 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Covid-19
Replies: 13866
Views: 280885

Re: Covid-19

So did we to the initial hot spots and subsequent flights are largely freight or repatriated brits who came back into the country to join lockdown. The comment about imagination and common sense in schools was just to illustrate that there are ways to manage a very slow and safe return to school for...
by Holtyclaret
Fri May 15, 2020 6:55 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Covid-19
Replies: 13866
Views: 280885

Re: Covid-19

In countries where primary schools have remained open, most experienced a tricky first week (with full numbers) but then through imagination and common sense had fun learning new ways and routines like novel ways of saying hello/goodbye like shaking feet and dancing in the hand wash queue, breaking ...
by Holtyclaret
Sun May 10, 2020 7:54 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Stay Alert
Replies: 499
Views: 10730

Re: Stay Alert

Agreed, things have got to start moving very slowly and very carefully and as said above, returning to work will involve contact from their employer WHEN they’re safe to do so and measures are in place. Personally I’m a little confused about fishing from Wednesday so I’m guessing they’ll be a lot mo...
by Holtyclaret
Sun May 10, 2020 6:54 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Covid-19
Replies: 13866
Views: 280885

Re: Covid-19

Sorry Martin, not aimed at you. Just saying the question I set was bobbins!!
by Holtyclaret
Sun May 10, 2020 6:53 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Covid-19
Replies: 13866
Views: 280885

Re: Covid-19

Bit of a crap question the more I think about it, literally impossible to calculate.
by Holtyclaret
Sun May 10, 2020 6:31 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Covid-19
Replies: 13866
Views: 280885

Re: Covid-19

How many people have requested tests? Has anyone been refused a test, because there's no capacity? Perhaps only 92,000 test were requested? Just asking. I’m perfectly happy with the numbers achieved, a great effort to get to those levels from where we were with more capacity to follow to back up th...
by Holtyclaret
Sun May 10, 2020 6:28 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Covid-19
Replies: 13866
Views: 280885

Re: Covid-19

Really? I hadn’t seen that. Knobs everywhere I guess!

Anyway I’d guess at least 20% in the uk.
by Holtyclaret
Sun May 10, 2020 6:15 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Covid-19
Replies: 13866
Views: 280885

Re: Covid-19

Eight fined in UK after birthday party Eight people have been fined for breaking lockdown regulations after a fight broke out at a birthday party attended by 40 adults and children. Police in Bolton, near Manchester, broke up the brawl on Saturday evening, but some of those involved refused to leav...
by Holtyclaret
Sat May 09, 2020 7:28 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Andrew JB & Green Movement
Replies: 26
Views: 1300

Re: Andrew JB & Green Movement

Unlike Andrew to spurn the opportunity to get his krank on.
by Holtyclaret
Sat May 09, 2020 7:22 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: RIP Googlebox star June Bernicoff
Replies: 13
Views: 944

Re: RIP Googlebox star June Bernicoff

Always seemed a lovely lady RIP
by Holtyclaret
Tue May 05, 2020 10:25 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Best ever male vocalist.
Replies: 84
Views: 2365

Re: Best ever male vocalist.

Frankie Valli, Smokey Robinson, Bruce Dickinson and Michael Hutchence for me but it’d change everyday as there’s so many to choose from.
by Holtyclaret
Tue May 05, 2020 3:09 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Will You Be Downloading the App?
Replies: 94
Views: 2771

Re: Will You Be Downloading the App?

Makes me think whether the naysayers use fb, twitter, e bay, pay pal, banking apps, jogging apps, have Microsoft/apple accounts, find my phone, betting apps, e mail, WhatsApp, messenger, send texts etc....
by Holtyclaret
Tue May 05, 2020 1:25 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Will You Be Downloading the App?
Replies: 94
Views: 2771

Re: Will You Be Downloading the App?

Yes, least I can do.
by Holtyclaret
Mon May 04, 2020 1:08 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Covid-19
Replies: 13866
Views: 280885

Re: Covid-19

Countries around the world are developing contact tracing apps. In the U.K. we’re going against science once again, and building one that the government can use to watch us, and gather data on where we go and who we speak with. https://www.businessinsider.nl/cybersecurity-experts-uk-government-cont...
by Holtyclaret
Sat May 02, 2020 5:28 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Covid-19
Replies: 13866
Views: 280885

Re: Covid-19

Why is it impossible?.......what other method can you use to measure incompetence? Do you think the Government has done a good job? In some aspects yes and some aspects no. About what I’d expect when dealing with such an unprecedented event. A lot of the poor aspects though are being tended to with...
by Holtyclaret
Sat May 02, 2020 12:32 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Covid-19
Replies: 13866
Views: 280885

Re: Covid-19

Where have I said home tests shouldn’t be counted. They should be counted when the have been returned and the test conducted in the lab. I’m really not sure what you’re arguing about, it’s the government that said 73k people were tested not me. Are you saying they’re lying? They explained at yester...
by Holtyclaret
Sat May 02, 2020 12:30 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Covid-19
Replies: 13866
Views: 280885

Re: Covid-19

AndrewJB wrote:
Sat May 02, 2020 12:00 pm
"I'm unable to refute your argument, so I'll just insult you instead."
Haha if only I could even understand your frothy mouthed, repetitive, boring and untrue brain farts you spout.
by Holtyclaret
Sat May 02, 2020 11:41 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Covid-19
Replies: 13866
Views: 280885

Re: Covid-19

AndrewJB wrote:
Sat May 02, 2020 11:26 am
Is it possible to be more extreme than governing a country for the benefit of one percent of its population?
Is it possible to be more extreme than peddling the same sh!te over and over and over again? Lunacy at its finest.
by Holtyclaret
Sat May 02, 2020 11:39 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Covid-19
Replies: 13866
Views: 280885

Re: Covid-19

73k tests is not even close to what we need a robust track and trace system. It's like attempting the moon landing and cheering because we've built a concrete launch pad. Germany is up to a million test a week, has anyone talked about how we will approach this level? What the projected ceiling in t...
by Holtyclaret
Sat May 02, 2020 10:23 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Covid-19
Replies: 13866
Views: 280885

Re: Covid-19

What a load of (again) agenda fuelled nonsense that discredits anything you say because of your unbalanced view on events.

The government actually represents the nation that voted for it and that governments attempting to deal with an unprecedented global health emergency.
by Holtyclaret
Sat May 02, 2020 9:03 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Covid-19
Replies: 13866
Views: 280885

Re: Covid-19

In certain aspects we’ve been better than other European countries and in other aspects we’ve been worse. Our whole effort has been hampered by our lack of testing capacity within the uk, midway through the peak of the 1st wave this has been rectified for subsequent waves of this and future pandemics.
by Holtyclaret
Sat May 02, 2020 8:52 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Covid-19
Replies: 13866
Views: 280885

Re: Covid-19

How about Germany or Denmark?......are they European enough....New Zealand? The Koreans got it very early, and didn't have a successful template to follow..... unlike Boris and Co. They followed the protocols for dealing with a pandemic. TEST, TRACE and ISOLATE...Seoul almost 10 million people....2...
by Holtyclaret
Fri May 01, 2020 6:51 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Covid-19
Replies: 13866
Views: 280885

Re: Covid-19

Regardless of party I respect the truth, and agreeing to send a test in the mail at some point is not a test That’s isn’t what was said. It was physically putting the test to a courier for delivery not ‘agreeing to a post a test’. It’s their physical process of the test, it could be counted when it...
by Holtyclaret
Wed Apr 22, 2020 11:53 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Covid-19
Replies: 13866
Views: 280885

Re: Covid-19

And why do you think hospitals haven’t been overwhelmed, old people on end of life care have been transferred to care homes , routine necessary procedures have been cancelled They haven’t been overwhelmed because of the reorganisation of the system to provide the expected required capacity to deal ...
by Holtyclaret
Wed Apr 22, 2020 10:05 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Covid-19
Replies: 13866
Views: 280885

Re: Covid-19

We’ll see about that and I’m sure they’ll be held to account in the fullness of time. In their favour though is an unsung (through guilt?) sharing of their ppe, doctors and learnt knowledge with us has been invaluable to date.
by Holtyclaret
Wed Apr 22, 2020 9:34 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Covid-19
Replies: 13866
Views: 280885

Re: Covid-19

From a standing start our progress overall I think has been very good and a huge effort. The very fact hospitals haven’t been overwhelmed is amazing. There may be further waves, nobody knows but we will have so much more in place as and when required. Nightingale hospital capacity (there if required...
by Holtyclaret
Mon Apr 20, 2020 12:48 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Flashing satellites outside now
Replies: 46
Views: 3041

Re: Flashing satellites outside now

I saw the starlink satellites on a recent trip to nz, amazing sight and sky so much clearer over there.
by Holtyclaret
Sun Apr 19, 2020 12:37 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Covid-19
Replies: 13866
Views: 280885

Re: Covid-19

I watched Gove against the frenzied and time constrained Marr.

The BBC need to wind their neck in.

We’re in the middle of a global emergency and now isn’t the time when so many are sadly dying.
by Holtyclaret
Sun Apr 19, 2020 12:17 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Covid-19
Replies: 13866
Views: 280885

Re: Covid-19

I thought Gove handled his interview very well, in the circumstances.

I just wish we’d have followed Amanda on facebooks guidance throughout rather than the worlds leading experts.
by Holtyclaret
Sun Apr 12, 2020 10:39 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Robert Smith
Replies: 19
Views: 2078

Re: Robert Smith

All those with Simple Minds who know better than the worlds leading scientists/health experts.
by Holtyclaret
Thu Apr 09, 2020 7:52 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: MPs getting £10,000 to work from home
Replies: 71
Views: 2002

Re: MPs getting £10,000 to work from home

My local mp is super busy helping coordinate local effort (cross party effort too), I’d like to think most are
by Holtyclaret
Thu Apr 09, 2020 7:40 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: MPs getting £10,000 to work from home
Replies: 71
Views: 2002

Re: MPs getting £10,000 to work from home

Billy Balfour wrote:
Thu Apr 09, 2020 7:36 pm
Will MPs be getting 80% of their £80,000 salary? I won't hold my breath.
They’re not furloughed? They’re working round the clock to protect us, why would their pay be cut?