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by Royboyclaret
Sun Mar 10, 2024 11:16 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: PREVIEW: Burnley go to West Ham having hit the bottom
Replies: 4
Views: 512

Re: PREVIEW: Burnley go to West Ham having hit the bottom

Superb official programme at the top of the preview from the 1946/47 season at West Ham.......Just a mere 77 years ago! Look at some of the names in our team that day.......Strong, Woodruff, Mather, Attwell, Brown & Bray......Chew, Morris, Billingham, Potts & Hays. Any number of names there that wou...
by Royboyclaret
Thu Mar 07, 2024 4:07 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Everton points deduction reduced
Replies: 122
Views: 7232

Re: Everton points deduction reduced

Fair enough but the goal Luton scored was a foul on the goalkeeper. Reminded me of a goal scored in an FA Cup Final against Man Utd; but that was back in 1958. Blimey, Silky.......That's some recollection from the old memory bank......Just a mere 66 years ago !! It was Bolton's second goal in the 2...
by Royboyclaret
Sun Mar 03, 2024 11:21 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: On this day
Replies: 111
Views: 9518

Re: On this day

South West Claret. wrote:
Sun Mar 03, 2024 11:15 am
You were there obviously 👍
Absolutely......a never to be forgotten evening at Anfield and a very rare result there for us.

Ian probably never scored a better goal, an absolute thunderbolt.
by Royboyclaret
Sun Mar 03, 2024 11:00 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: On this day
Replies: 111
Views: 9518

Re: On this day

South West Claret. wrote:
Sun Mar 03, 2024 10:49 am
Oh oh yes I was thinking of the 70’s game 😄
No worries.....It was 1974 when Brennan scored his "worldy" winner at Anfield......a very special goal.
by Royboyclaret
Sun Mar 03, 2024 10:13 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: On this day
Replies: 111
Views: 9518

Re: On this day

bfc8 wrote:
Sun Mar 03, 2024 9:24 am
3/3/1962, Burnley 6 West Ham 0.
Jimmy Robson scored in the first minute, we were top of the First Division and heading for the FA Cup Final.

Special times to be a young Claret.
by Royboyclaret
Sun Mar 03, 2024 10:10 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: On this day
Replies: 111
Views: 9518

Re: On this day

South West Claret. wrote:
Sun Mar 03, 2024 9:58 am
Was Ian Brennan the scorer?
Just a bit before Ian's time !!

Bert Freeman was our scorer.
by Royboyclaret
Wed Feb 28, 2024 10:26 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: On this day
Replies: 111
Views: 9518

Re: On this day

28/2/1925, Burnley 5 West Ham 4. Sounds like a good game 99 years ago ! Two of those five Burnley goals scored by the incomparable George Beel, our highest ever total goalscorer, including a remarkable 35 league goals in one particular season........However, in terms of goals/game ratio they all la...
by Royboyclaret
Tue Feb 27, 2024 6:58 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Colin McDonald Testimonial 6th November 1962
Replies: 6
Views: 835

Re: Colin McDonald Testimonial 6th November 1962

Andy Lochhead is the missing player, he wore 8 and Jimmy Robson 10.

The final score was actually 4-6 and the attendance 16,826.
by Royboyclaret
Mon Feb 26, 2024 10:29 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: On this day
Replies: 111
Views: 9518

Re: On this day

bfc8 wrote:
Mon Feb 26, 2024 7:50 am
26/2/1983, Burnley 7 Charlton 1.
Two hat-tricks......Steve Taylor and Billy Hamilton, with the brilliant Trevor Steven adding the other.
by Royboyclaret
Fri Feb 23, 2024 5:45 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: On this day
Replies: 111
Views: 9518

Re: On this day

Dark Cloud wrote:
Fri Feb 23, 2024 5:38 pm
Including my mum (who's now 91)
Not like you to be weak on the maths, Tony !!
by Royboyclaret
Fri Feb 23, 2024 5:22 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: On this day
Replies: 111
Views: 9518

Re: On this day

23rd February 1924 100 years to the.day. Burnley 1 Huddersfield 0 FA Cup 3rd round. Record attendance of 54,775 Almost beyond belief that close to 55 thousand people could be shoe-horned into Turf Moor, especially as the Bee Hole End still sloped to just a few steps towads Brunshaw Road at that tim...
by Royboyclaret
Mon Feb 19, 2024 4:50 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 9982
Views: 1016528

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Another podcast from Unofficial Partner and another subject that is likely to have a significant effect on the game - it is only touched upon here but I thing the use of AI analysis in game is one of the big threats for those that the resources to dominate. It is obvious that the game is moving tow...
by Royboyclaret
Sun Feb 18, 2024 6:06 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: The future is difficult to fathom out
Replies: 45
Views: 2514

Re: The future is difficult to fathom out

From a purely "Who can we sell to raise money" perspective Muric is the most interesting. He will want away in the summer, Trafford did nothing wrong yesterday, but its time to put Music in the shop window and protect his value. Muric is our top keeper.....most people recognise that, except the per...
by Royboyclaret
Sun Feb 18, 2024 12:51 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: What a ******* shambles!
Replies: 142
Views: 7294

Re: What a ******* shambles!

Yes, correct. We haven't found it this season or more importantly recruited it. The winter window was much better but too little too late and still didn't solve the issue in the middle of the park. All of which, surely, was the responsibility of one person. An absolute waste of a special season.
by Royboyclaret
Sun Feb 18, 2024 12:42 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: What a ******* shambles!
Replies: 142
Views: 7294

Re: What a ******* shambles!

but he put in the hard yards (and tackles) to allow the flair players to flourish. We are just too meek. We can't afford a Rodri or Rice but these type of players are vital to the success City and Arsenal will have this season. City miss Rodri more than they miss De Bruyne, I think stats have backe...
by Royboyclaret
Sun Feb 18, 2024 12:33 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: What a ******* shambles!
Replies: 142
Views: 7294

Re: What a ******* shambles!

Aye but what I'm saying there's hardly going to be a buzz of going in a new direction - poor campaigns can lead to a massive hangover into the next season; it's not like narrowly missing out and thinking 'yep next time we can stay up', it's like, 'christ, where do we go from here?' Fully take your ...
by Royboyclaret
Sun Feb 18, 2024 12:19 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: What a ******* shambles!
Replies: 142
Views: 7294

Re: What a ******* shambles!

Bit before my time but would suggest Brian O'Neill might have been someone who did the dirty things we speak of. What would you give for him in the middle of the park today? Well, for the ten minutes before he'd be sent off. Trust me Goody......Brian was more than capable of looking after himself !
by Royboyclaret
Sun Feb 18, 2024 12:13 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: What a ******* shambles!
Replies: 142
Views: 7294

Re: What a ******* shambles!

& the fans, what hope is there to give over summer? It's not like we're starting a fresh like we were in summer 2022. We will always be there since many decades ago. But, as DCWat points posts, important players like Benson and Zaroury need to be influential, as they should have been this season.
by Royboyclaret
Sat Feb 17, 2024 11:55 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: What a ******* shambles!
Replies: 142
Views: 7294

Re: What a ******* shambles!

It's been a mess. The Premier League has players that are not only technically light years ahead of the Championship but physically a different species. You cannot go into a season where you are unable to keep a clean sheet, the one thing Dyche made sure of is that no matter how badly we played he ...
by Royboyclaret
Sat Feb 17, 2024 11:30 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: What a ******* shambles!
Replies: 142
Views: 7294

Re: What a ******* shambles!

Nori1958 wrote:
Sat Feb 17, 2024 11:25 pm
Different level, playing against teams who spend more on one player than we do as a team, is it really that difficult to work out?
Not difficult at all.....fully understand that.....but Kompany's approach to everything is beyond belief.
by Royboyclaret
Sat Feb 17, 2024 11:18 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: What a ******* shambles!
Replies: 142
Views: 7294

Re: What a ******* shambles!

After several hours of reflection I'm still trying to understand the contrast from last season to this nonsense.

What exactly is Kompany's thinking ?
by Royboyclaret
Sat Feb 17, 2024 10:38 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Vincent Kompany
Replies: 118
Views: 9281

Re: Vincent Kompany

Hapag Lloyd wrote:
Sat Feb 17, 2024 10:29 pm
Come on Stanley, wtf did Mark Monnington ever win apart from that fight with a Rochdale player in front of the Longside.
Right in front of me, and there was only one winner.
by Royboyclaret
Sat Feb 17, 2024 12:09 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: On this day
Replies: 111
Views: 9518

Re: On this day

bfc8 wrote:
Sat Feb 17, 2024 10:23 am
17/2/1968, Burnley 2 Manchester United 1.
Good win over that season's European Cup winners.
A very special goal from Brian O'Neil on a memorable day......Thanks for the reminder bfc8.
by Royboyclaret
Tue Feb 13, 2024 6:18 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 9982
Views: 1016528

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

otd 1901 Burnley 7 Newton Heath 1 FAC, had thought it a bit old to mention ! Everton, dire, but. There is a chance someone is keeping their powder dry spotting a good long term opportunity, maybe following administration, maybe not. And may need some years in 'div 2', level 2. Positive would be inv...
by Royboyclaret
Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:57 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 9982
Views: 1016528

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

The "inner-circle" at Everton are now suggesting imminent problems.

As an aside bfc8, really missing your "On this day" threads.
by Royboyclaret
Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:46 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: The 1962 FA CUP FINAL.
Replies: 36
Views: 1900

Re: The 1962 FA CUP FINAL.

Silkyskills1 wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:32 pm
Wouldn't have minded taking the chance.
Trust me it was not the best experience.

But the best part for for me was that we accepted defeat in the appropriate manner.

Tottenham, however, seven months later, did not do that.......Harry Potts would not have accepted that.
by Royboyclaret
Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:49 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 9982
Views: 1016528

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Some of the mess was due to excessive spending on players under changing managers so no team pattern. But the bulk is due to the spending on the new stadium financed by short term loans. Spurs had even higher new stadium spending and stadium debt, but the borrowing is sensible long term loans. Ever...
by Royboyclaret
Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:14 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: The 1962 FA CUP FINAL.
Replies: 36
Views: 1900

Re: The 1962 FA CUP FINAL.

Okay. I was a season ticket holder though only 9/10 throughout it. Easter Sunday my cousins came to our house where they got their annual Easter eggs off my mum. The eldest was 13 and my mum said to him she thought he was too old for an Easter egg. His head dropped but rose again pretty quickly whe...
by Royboyclaret
Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:04 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 9982
Views: 1016528

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Most of this report is just opinion, but if the shared, new, rumour that 777 Partners I mainly given Everton an i.o.u rather than hard cash is true, there there really are going to be problems for the club and potentially a number of it's suppliers/service providers/creditors - the latter including...
by Royboyclaret
Tue Feb 13, 2024 12:29 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: The 1962 FA CUP FINAL.
Replies: 36
Views: 1900

Re: The 1962 FA CUP FINAL.

Where's Silky with his story?
by Royboyclaret
Tue Feb 13, 2024 12:22 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: The 1962 FA CUP FINAL.
Replies: 36
Views: 1900

Re: The 1962 FA CUP FINAL.

More than happy to hear it Silky.....that was a very special time. Thing was that third goal by Bobby Smith, immediately in front of us, was a tough one to take, but the Burnley players took it with grace and humility. Fast forward some seven months and wer'e drawn against them again in the Third R...
by Royboyclaret
Tue Feb 13, 2024 11:29 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: The 1962 FA CUP FINAL.
Replies: 36
Views: 1900

Re: The 1962 FA CUP FINAL.

My brother went by train from Accrington, I think. Set off around midnight getting into London 6/7am and the return journey leaving London around midnight and getting back in Accrington around 6/7am. I was also 10 like CT, had a ticket but you don't want to hear the saga I've explained many times o...
by Royboyclaret
Sat Feb 10, 2024 12:11 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Ian Lawson passes away
Replies: 18
Views: 1732

Re: Ian Lawson passes away

ClaretTony wrote:
Sat Feb 10, 2024 12:04 pm
Lawson scored in the cup against Huddersfield

https://www.uptheclarets.com/fixtures-r ... 57-results
A special goal that was at Huddersfield and then played in the 6th Round draw at Villa.......and for some reason did'nt play in the replay at Villa Park.
by Royboyclaret
Sat Feb 10, 2024 11:41 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Ian Lawson passes away
Replies: 18
Views: 1732

Re: Ian Lawson passes away

Of course Ray was about to come along.
by Royboyclaret
Fri Feb 09, 2024 1:47 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Blackburn......
Replies: 212
Views: 20446

Re: Blackburn......

An utter financial disaster is about to unfold at Ewood Park.....Oh dear.
by Royboyclaret
Wed Feb 07, 2024 4:58 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Blackburn......
Replies: 212
Views: 20446

Re: Blackburn......

Removal of their team manager is the very least of their current worries.
by Royboyclaret
Wed Feb 07, 2024 3:52 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Blackburn......
Replies: 212
Views: 20446

Re: Blackburn......

It is all down to the whims of Narendra Modi in reality - the iron grip he has on the country and the ruthlessness in which he is willing to exercise his power is similar to those of his BRICS stable mates in China, Russia and Saudi (now that they have joined the group). Modi's focus is on strength...
by Royboyclaret
Wed Feb 07, 2024 2:59 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Blackburn......
Replies: 212
Views: 20446

Re: Blackburn......

Chester Perry wrote:
Wed Feb 07, 2024 1:05 pm
my curiosity is aroused - if not ALK/VSL then who?
Be assured not ALK......probably best to add little else on here.

Chester, how do you see the current situation playing out with particular regard to the Indian authorities ?
by Royboyclaret
Wed Feb 07, 2024 11:57 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Blackburn......
Replies: 212
Views: 20446

Re: Blackburn......

claptrappers_union wrote:
Wed Feb 07, 2024 11:49 am
I can think of at least two occasions, one where CJ Egan-Riley missed the initial opportunity to go on loan to PSV due to an admin error. Another time was when the club was punished with a transfer embargo over not submitting accounts.
Transfer embargo?......ALK in no way responsible.
by Royboyclaret
Wed Feb 07, 2024 11:40 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Blackburn......
Replies: 212
Views: 20446

Re: Blackburn......

ALK do struggle with paperwork to be fair Submitting necessary paperwork has never been a problem for ALK. But back to Venkateshrawa Hatcheries Ltd........For 14 years they have injected north of £300m into Blackburn Rovers.......What exactly have they gained from this?........this latest intervent...
by Royboyclaret
Tue Feb 06, 2024 9:35 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Blackburn......
Replies: 212
Views: 20446

Re: Blackburn......

Westleigh wrote:
Tue Feb 06, 2024 9:27 pm
Just looked they’ve got a Facebook group called Venky’s and Waggot Out ,they’ve got 61 members.😂😂
They should be very careful what they wish for.

Without Venky's they would be long gone.
by Royboyclaret
Tue Feb 06, 2024 9:08 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Blackburn......
Replies: 212
Views: 20446

Re: Blackburn......

Be interesting to hear from Chester Perry regarding the latest financial developments in India, these will be crucial to the very future of Blackburn Rovers Football Club.

Not looking good for our neighbours.
by Royboyclaret
Tue Feb 06, 2024 8:44 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Blackburn......
Replies: 212
Views: 20446

Re: Blackburn......

" Royboyclaret " ... are the Venkys London Ltd/ Blackburn Rovers Football & Athletic Ltd Directors now getting towards the stage of being subject to accusations of " Conducting Business whilst knowingly trading insolvently " ? For years now both sets of accounts have included paragraphs indicating ...
by Royboyclaret
Tue Feb 06, 2024 7:36 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Blackburn......
Replies: 212
Views: 20446

Re: Blackburn......

Simply a ridiculous situation that was allowed to play out with the player.

After 14 years of propping up the club Venky's knew full well at that date that finance was unavailable to complete the transfer and, for that matter, any future transactions in the immediate future.
by Royboyclaret
Tue Feb 06, 2024 7:15 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Blackburn......
Replies: 212
Views: 20446

Re: Blackburn......

Clarets4me wrote:
Tue Feb 06, 2024 7:11 pm
Is that from the Venky's by choice, or due to legal constraints ?
Purely legal.......Venky's have been more than accommodating to Blackburn over many years.

Now circumstances appear to have changed.
by Royboyclaret
Tue Feb 06, 2024 7:01 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Blackburn......
Replies: 212
Views: 20446

Re: Blackburn......

ElectroClaret wrote:
Tue Feb 06, 2024 6:53 pm
Yes, of course that situation can only be temporary.
Perhaps Rovers are just hoping, like Mr. Micawber, that
"something will turn up".

(Was it Micawber?)
Past the point of no return........at least that's the verdict in India.......no more £20m pocket money.
by Royboyclaret
Tue Feb 06, 2024 6:48 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Blackburn......
Replies: 212
Views: 20446

Re: Blackburn......

Yes, that's the thinking .... 50% up front so £9m due straight away, and the £500k fee from the sale of Ennis to Stoke was to cover the loan fee to Orlando City. By the Summer, I suspect they're hoping the Court case will be settled .. I hadn't seen the run in before, Jesus ! They need to get to 50...
by Royboyclaret
Tue Feb 06, 2024 4:16 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Blackburn......
Replies: 212
Views: 20446

Re: Blackburn......

The Venky's have several other choices. One, they could have cut wages sufficiently that the club wasn't running at a loss any more. Two, they could decide to cut their losses and let the club go into administration. Three, they can deliberately follow the policy they have been following of subsidi...
by Royboyclaret
Mon Feb 05, 2024 12:11 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: On this day
Replies: 111
Views: 9518

Re: On this day

BacupClaret wrote:
Mon Feb 05, 2024 11:47 am
Are you forgetting Paul Barnes? 5 against Stockport?


Aye, good shout BacupClaret.
by Royboyclaret
Mon Feb 05, 2024 11:31 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: On this day
Replies: 111
Views: 9518

Re: On this day

5/2/1921, Burnley 7 Aston Villa 1. Champions that season. Another top class side to represent Burnley, several names there that also won the FA Cup just before WW1. On this occasion the goals were not spread around, with centre-forward Joe Anderson scoring 5 times. Anderson just one of four Burnley...