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by Chester Perry
Sat Sep 12, 2020 1:54 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 5201
Views: 369531

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

It has been a while - The chaps at Vysyble with a new blog piece as the football season gets underway - including a bit of I told you so

https://vysyble.com/blog
by Chester Perry
Sat Sep 12, 2020 1:46 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Interesting comments re Dyche in the Mail just now
Replies: 194
Views: 10739

Re: Interesting comments re Dyche in the Mail just now

to my mind that rules out Mathew Moulding - far too much energy needs to be put into his business for him to be involved in football - He does look like he is on his way to being a multi-billionaire though
by Chester Perry
Sat Sep 12, 2020 1:33 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 5201
Views: 369531

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

@Marcotti with an Interesting piece on the financial impact of Covid19 - it is translated from ESPN's Spanish Language site so may be strange in places The football economy has felt the impact of COVID-19, although it has not been as bad as feared 2:24 PM Gabriele Marcotti ESPN FC Let's go back to j...
by Chester Perry
Sat Sep 12, 2020 1:14 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Interesting comments re Dyche in the Mail just now
Replies: 194
Views: 10739

Re: Interesting comments re Dyche in the Mail just now

So what’s the link to Matt Moulding and the Egyptian money that was meant to heading up the investment? Nothing I am aware of - he was mentioned as a local person who may be wealthy enough to invest in the club - I have not heard of him so did a quick search on the mention of an IPO for his busines...
by Chester Perry
Sat Sep 12, 2020 1:07 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 5201
Views: 369531

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Jonathan Liew with a new game for clubs promoted to the Premier League - you can play it alongside bingo

https://www.theguardian.com/football/20 ... er-league-
by Chester Perry
Sat Sep 12, 2020 12:50 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Interesting comments re Dyche in the Mail just now
Replies: 194
Views: 10739

Re: Interesting comments re Dyche in the Mail just now

Not suggesting any knowledge Chester, but to me it be one way to take the brand into the BIG league, with massive potential for world wide exposure. However, I bow to your fiscal superiority in such matters. I would never begin to claim any deep fiscal knowledge, with regard to what I post, it is a...
by Chester Perry
Sat Sep 12, 2020 12:22 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Interesting comments re Dyche in the Mail just now
Replies: 194
Views: 10739

Re: Interesting comments re Dyche in the Mail just now

The hut group are looking to raise 1.9bn in its IPO. and Matt Moulding is not selling any shares so is not about to get a cash influx - https://www.ft.com/content/daf0192f-fd42-4fda-9e86-ce26d10e53b8 - would not stop a takeover by the group itself and would likely mean our club would have to be mor...
by Chester Perry
Fri Sep 11, 2020 10:46 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Interesting comments re Dyche in the Mail just now
Replies: 194
Views: 10739

Re: Interesting comments re Dyche in the Mail just now

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Fri Sep 11, 2020 10:42 pm
A well earned bonus
It's why he wants more money to spend and contracts extended - to preserve his bonus ;)
by Chester Perry
Fri Sep 11, 2020 10:36 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Interesting comments re Dyche in the Mail just now
Replies: 194
Views: 10739

Interesting comments re Dyche in the Mail just now

and that is one hell of a bonus BURNLEY CONFIDENT DYCHE WILL STAY Burnley are confident of keeping hold of manager Sean Dyche for the whole of the season, despite his fractured relationship with chairman Mike Garlick. The terms of his contract mean it could take £5.5million to prise him away, while ...
by Chester Perry
Fri Sep 11, 2020 6:09 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 5201
Views: 369531

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Royboyclaret wrote:
Fri Sep 11, 2020 5:53 pm
Albert & Smith ?? :)
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on a more thread thematic note you should give that survey of Football finance directors a read some interesting stuff in there
by Chester Perry
Fri Sep 11, 2020 5:15 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 5201
Views: 369531

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

A great (if lengthy) written summary of the last "The Bundle" podcast from Unofficial partner in regards to sports media https://unofficialpartner.substack.com/p/6-things-to-say-about-the-future?utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email&utm_source=twitter you can find the actual podcast here https://www.un...
by Chester Perry
Fri Sep 11, 2020 4:56 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 5201
Views: 369531

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Hot on the heels of that report in the previous report and mounting anger over the return of crowds at football comes this from the Telegraph EFL clubs braced for mass redundancies and fire sale of players MIKE MCGRATH SEPTEMBER 11, 2020 EFL clubs are braced for redundancies and a fire sale of playe...
by Chester Perry
Fri Sep 11, 2020 2:07 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 5201
Views: 369531

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

A new study has seen almost half the clubs in the English pyramid have been approached by potential investors ad finance Directors warn of financial difficulties - from Sports ProMedia Study: Half of English soccer clubs concerned about financial health 43% of clubs approached by potential investors...
by Chester Perry
Fri Sep 11, 2020 1:53 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 5201
Views: 369531

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

A useful reference article from SportsProMedia, outlining the key commercial and Media deals for the Premier League and each of its teams

https://www.sportspromedia.com/analysis ... ghts-deals
by Chester Perry
Fri Sep 11, 2020 1:00 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: New away kit
Replies: 96
Views: 3050

Re: New away kit

the white one used in restart was much better than this shame it is not supposed to be used again
by Chester Perry
Fri Sep 11, 2020 12:57 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Mail article about Dyche with Brendan Flood
Replies: 44
Views: 2600

Re: Mail article about Dyche with Brendan Flood

It's time to promote UCFB so he's crawled out of the woodwork again and used Burnley FC. Last time he popped out the article then referred to him as the owner. He can't own too many shares now, flogged most of them to Garlick didn't he? I can't imagine the club will be too happy with this though, I...
by Chester Perry
Fri Sep 11, 2020 12:06 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 5201
Views: 369531

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

It appears my impression that surplus parachute payments (as clubs promoted back to the Premier League prior to full earning of them) were distributed to the EFL was mistaken. The EFL has apparently had a request to keep the payments that Fulham would have received refused by the Premier League (who...
by Chester Perry
Thu Sep 10, 2020 11:56 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 5201
Views: 369531

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Southampton have been rumoured to be up for sale for quite some time now, have they found a buyer at last - this prospective owner )a Private Equity financier) already has previous football ownership experience with Bordeaux who he parted ways with last year (after a single year of ownership and sto...
by Chester Perry
Thu Sep 10, 2020 9:25 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 5201
Views: 369531

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

It is the start of the new season and the Premier League is once again pushing it's anti piracy initiatives and the new measures it is taking - from the Mail Premier League bid to stop fans illegally streaming matches as they plan a crackdown on IPTV services with new warnings sent to customers to t...
by Chester Perry
Thu Sep 10, 2020 8:40 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 5201
Views: 369531

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Seems I am not the only one who saw that Newcastle Statement yesterday blaming the Premier League for the failed Saudi bid last night as a smokescreen https://twitter.com/Prof_Chadwick/status/1304061248603123713 Meanwhile a section of Newcastle fans have been making something of fools of themselves...
by Chester Perry
Thu Sep 10, 2020 7:55 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 5201
Views: 369531

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

That is an interesting piece of PR from Ashley to the Newcastle fans, added to the significant spend this summer he really seems to be trying to appease them Seems I am not the only one who saw that Newcastle Statement yesterday blaming the Premier League for the failed Saudi bid last night as a sm...
by Chester Perry
Thu Sep 10, 2020 7:33 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 5201
Views: 369531

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

A thought piece on those huge UEFA tv rebates and what it means for the new reality of Sports finance - from SportsProMedia Champions League rebates the latest sign of sport’s looming financial reality With broadcasters getting €575m back from their outlay on Europe's disrupted club soccer competiti...
by Chester Perry
Thu Sep 10, 2020 7:15 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 5201
Views: 369531

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

The vultures are at the door - The Private Equity Investment in Serie is down to two rival bidders now from - from SportsBusiness.com Serie A clubs back new media company, two proposals in the mix SportBusiness Staff - September 10, 2020 Italy’s Serie A football clubs have unanimously approved the f...
by Chester Perry
Thu Sep 10, 2020 5:45 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Parachute payments
Replies: 9
Views: 656

Re: Parachute payments

Same as they are for this season and 22/23 The value of which has not been announced as yet, it will be interesting to see if the rebates and lost Premier League Income such as that from China will be reflected in PFA Charity, Solidarity and Parachute payments. If not then the Premier League clubs ...
by Chester Perry
Thu Sep 10, 2020 5:11 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Tark - transfer
Replies: 768
Views: 55121

Re: Tark - transfer

KRBFC wrote:
Thu Sep 10, 2020 4:59 pm
I’m not sure what you’re trying to insinuate?
What is there to insinuate when it has been announced so publicly - meanwhile the guy behind Football Leaks, that drew so much attention to Mendes and Porto, is fighting for his freedom in a Lisbon court
by Chester Perry
Thu Sep 10, 2020 4:49 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Tark - transfer
Replies: 768
Views: 55121

Re: Tark - transfer

The one with the higher potential will be worth more, I know nothing about this kid Wolves have bought but maybe he’s on track to become a genuine world class talent, as good as McNeil is, I don’t see him ever reaching that level. The Silva deal is a strange one - it has been announced on the Portu...
by Chester Perry
Thu Sep 10, 2020 4:03 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 5201
Views: 369531

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

That is an interesting piece of PR from Ashley to the Newcastle fans, added to the significant spend this summer he really seems to be trying to appease them Saudi/Newcastle repeatedly refused arbitration for the takeover - Premier League issue a corrective statement to Newcastle's from last night ...
by Chester Perry
Thu Sep 10, 2020 1:43 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 5201
Views: 369531

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

If you don't think there is something wrong about Jorge Mendes and his grip on Wolves or Portuguese football - try this (EFL, Premier League, UEFA) from the Mail REVEALED: Porto paid Jorge Mendes £6.4m of the £35m transfer fee from Wolves for the signing of Fabio Silva... and he isn't even the playe...
by Chester Perry
Thu Sep 10, 2020 1:25 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Tark - transfer
Replies: 768
Views: 55121

Re: Tark - transfer

This will cheer everyone up - from WestHamFans.org - because they know the workings of our club better than anyone on here Tarka The Offer! £33 Million Seals Deal Submitted by nevillenixon on Thu, 10/09/2020 - 13:20 West Ham United's pursuit of James Tarkowski is going the way of many 'big ticket' d...
by Chester Perry
Thu Sep 10, 2020 4:15 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Watkins over £30 million!!
Replies: 49
Views: 2575

Re: Watkins over £30 million!!

The key problem with Villa is the price expectations they are passing on to other Championship clubs selling to the Premier League, they paid an asking price and not their own valuation, which is why the other Premier League clubs walked away - they have also decided to pay Watkins £70k pw according...
by Chester Perry
Thu Sep 10, 2020 12:31 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 5201
Views: 369531

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

It appears that the Premier League will be back on Chinese TV screens shortly - from the Mail Premier League chief Richard Masters says they are 'taking steps' to get coverage back on Chinese TV after pulling the plug on £564m deal with PPTV last week over withheld £160m payment amid coronavirus cri...
by Chester Perry
Thu Sep 10, 2020 12:11 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 5201
Views: 369531

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

That is an interesting piece of PR from Ashley to the Newcastle fans, added to the significant spend this summer he really seems to be trying to appease them
by Chester Perry
Wed Sep 09, 2020 9:40 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Art
Replies: 68
Views: 1473

Re: Art

Billy Balfour wrote:
Wed Sep 09, 2020 9:21 pm
I would love to own an original by Francis Bacon. Maybe one of 'his' popes.
I would be delighted with such a gift
by Chester Perry
Wed Sep 09, 2020 9:38 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 5201
Views: 369531

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

The Premier League have paid for domestic rebates this season by giving extra games and no doubt extra concessions on things like access to players and managers - it was 20 games before the news about the September games being televised - it will detract from earnings in future cycles
by Chester Perry
Wed Sep 09, 2020 7:42 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 5201
Views: 369531

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

The whole justification behind last season's £340m broadcast rebate (£17m per club) was the fact the rights-holders were not receiving the product as defined in the contract. Lack of crowd, atmostphere etc. On that basis, what exactly is the difference with the games in the new season?....Surely th...
by Chester Perry
Wed Sep 09, 2020 7:26 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 5201
Views: 369531

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

claretandy wrote:
Wed Sep 09, 2020 7:23 pm
Like i said yesterday...
That was slower than expected :lol: - I still don't believe they will get through the season without rebates, as much as I would welcome it
by Chester Perry
Wed Sep 09, 2020 7:17 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 5201
Views: 369531

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

The Telegraph have take a slightly different nuance from that Richard Masters briefing - including that he doesn't expect any rebates generated this season (which I find extremely surprising - though welcome) Premier League chief Richard Masters says return of fans 'absolutely critical' to clubs TOM...
by Chester Perry
Wed Sep 09, 2020 6:28 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 5201
Views: 369531

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Wide ranging interview with Richard Masters CEO of the Premier League on the BBC website covering a wide range of financial issues - some of the numbers seem bigger than we have heard up until now Premier League chief Richard Masters says it is 'absolutely critical' fans return By Dan Roan - BBC spo...
by Chester Perry
Wed Sep 09, 2020 5:46 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Art
Replies: 68
Views: 1473

Re: Art

Boban wrote:
Wed Sep 09, 2020 5:28 pm
Salvatore Mundi, the sense of serenity is truly magnificent.
Beautiful painting but plenty of questions as to who the artist was
by Chester Perry
Wed Sep 09, 2020 4:49 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 5201
Views: 369531

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

FIFA releases a maual to help you understand it's rules on Third Party Influence and Third Party Ownership

https://www.fifa.com/who-we-are/news/fi ... -ownership

the manual is here https://img.fifa.com/image/upload/jhre7 ... zi81rn.pdf
by Chester Perry
Wed Sep 09, 2020 11:57 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Tark - transfer
Replies: 768
Views: 55121

Re: Tark - transfer

Apparently we are strapped for cash so have dropped the asking price to £35m. Cant see that to be honest, although what does worry me is historically we have had to sell at least one player to fund multiple other arrivals. This thread has gone full circle - previously posted this on the thread It g...
by Chester Perry
Wed Sep 09, 2020 11:50 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Art
Replies: 68
Views: 1473

Re: Art

Cy Twombly's four seasons gifted to the Tate and now on permanent display at Tate Modern (https://www.tate.org.uk/art/artworks/twombly-quattro-stagioni-a-painting-in-four-parts-68307) a close match-up with the Rothko's that are also on permanent display at Tate Modern (https://www.tate.org.uk/visit/...
by Chester Perry
Tue Sep 08, 2020 6:09 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Wealthy investors in football have left their mark
Replies: 11
Views: 647

Re: Wealthy investors in football have left their mark

Winstonswhite wrote:
Tue Sep 08, 2020 6:07 pm
That’s ridiculous. He’s blown 500 million and what have they achieved?
lighter pockets
by Chester Perry
Tue Sep 08, 2020 6:06 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Wealthy investors in football have left their mark
Replies: 11
Views: 647

Re: Wealthy investors in football have left their mark

Everton - Moshiri thought to be about £500m in now
and the 2 billionaires at villa are not too far away from that either
by Chester Perry
Tue Sep 08, 2020 4:24 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 5201
Views: 369531

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

The EFL are to appeal the Derby amortisation practice decision according to the Telegraph EFL launch appeal after Derby County escape financial misconduct charges JOHN PERCY SEPTEMBER 07, 2020 The English Football League are set for another legal row with Derby after launching an appeal against the...
by Chester Perry
Tue Sep 08, 2020 4:13 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 5201
Views: 369531

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Those financial worries, do we think they'll push prices up for championship players or down to get sales done and cash in? Interesting piece in the Guardian The transfer window is working for young, free and single footballers With clubs struggling financially and facing a salary cap in the Footba...
by Chester Perry
Tue Sep 08, 2020 1:39 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 5201
Views: 369531

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

I must say that this story takes some believing and opens up a huge number of legal/moral/ethical questions - from SportsBusiness A-League club owners want to decide which players ‘lose 30 per cent’ of salary Tom King, Asia Office - September 8, 2020 The owners of Australia’s A-League clubs want to ...
by Chester Perry
Tue Sep 08, 2020 1:21 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 5201
Views: 369531

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

It wasn't really talked about by many but one of the reasons behind PPTV/Suning's effort to renegotiate the value of their tv deal was the level of piracy streams in the far East. The Premier League have been working hard on that, even establishing a regional office primarily to support that effort,...
by Chester Perry
Tue Sep 08, 2020 1:16 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 5201
Views: 369531

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

The summer long running saga of Private Equity investment in Serie A may be coming towards a conclusion with talks between the clubs due tomorrow - from SportsBusiness Serie A clubs to discuss ‘final bids’ from trio of private equity groups SportBusiness Staff - September 8, 2020 Italy’s Serie A foo...