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by Chester Perry
Fri Feb 14, 2020 10:35 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 3084
Views: 311447

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

The Independent finally publish the companion article to Delaney's broken beyond repair - entitled What can we do to save football? - don't get too excited

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/foo ... 34826.html
by Chester Perry
Fri Feb 14, 2020 9:22 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 3084
Views: 311447

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

This is really quite informative - @KieranMaguire on the Carlyle Podcast - which is part of a PHD research project which is looking at how the increase in media coverage of the Premier League has led to the increase of foreign ownership of clubs https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-carlyle-podc...
by Chester Perry
Fri Feb 14, 2020 8:58 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 3084
Views: 311447

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Spurs upset fans by increasing (already wye-watering) season ticket prices (a rare practice in the Premier League - well Jose earns considerably more than Poch you know - from the telegraph Tottenham face criticism over 'unjustified' increase in season ticket prices Tottenham Hotspur Supporters’ Tru...
by Chester Perry
Fri Feb 14, 2020 4:44 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 3084
Views: 311447

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

on this day in 2012 Rangers went into administration here in an interview in the Telegraph - Craig White tells of his role in it Rangers, my part in their downfall, by former owner Craig Whyte Craig Whyte details dark days at Ibrox in his colourful autobiography By Roddy Forsyth, Scottish Football C...
by Chester Perry
Fri Feb 14, 2020 3:34 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 3084
Views: 311447

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Following on from that Miguel Delaney article this week about the game being broken - the Indy Football Podcast discusses the article and some of the feedback received along with discussing what can be done, which essentially preempts an article on the same topic that is due to be published later to...
by Chester Perry
Fri Feb 14, 2020 3:23 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 3084
Views: 311447

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

This article in the Independent asks - What happened to Mathew Briggs, the then youngest ever player in the Premier League https://www.independent.co.uk/independentpremium/sport/premier-league-youngest-player-matthew-briggs-what-happened-a9332271.html Regulars to this thread may remember a series of...
by Chester Perry
Fri Feb 14, 2020 3:07 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Life outside the prem
Replies: 2
Views: 736

Re: Life outside the prem

This was posted on the Magic Money Tree Thread last May when it was published - as have been a number of other articles by Delaney in the last couple of years - on that thread you will find others that have been reporting the same kind of thing by, amongst others, David Conn, John Nicholson, Tom Ree...
by Chester Perry
Thu Feb 13, 2020 10:40 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 3084
Views: 311447

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Good news for AFC Wimbledon - the bond issue that began at the end of last week looks like hitting it's target - it came after fans rejected offfers of private finance with conditions attached

https://www.theguardian.com/football/20 ... e-stadium-
by Chester Perry
Thu Feb 13, 2020 10:30 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 3084
Views: 311447

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

The Guardian with a piece on ticket resellers - this is a huge market especially in the Premier League

https://www.theguardian.com/football/20 ... full-scale
by Chester Perry
Thu Feb 13, 2020 3:12 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 3084
Views: 311447

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Interesting interview in the Telegraph with the chap who essentially negotiated the deal for FSG to by Liverpool - unfortunate title to it though that illustrates how far they have come 'Liverpool's worth? Maybe two billion' Exclusive interview with the man who sold Liverpool to FSG, Sir Martin Brou...
by Chester Perry
Thu Feb 13, 2020 2:26 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 3084
Views: 311447

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Having finally won their land dispute with the council and an overseas property developer - it went on for a long time and was looking very grim at one stage - Millwall announce plans for a significant redevelopment of the New Den https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-7999603/Millwall-p...
by Chester Perry
Thu Feb 13, 2020 2:02 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Two blokes wandering around in New York
Replies: 44
Views: 2378

Re: Two blokes wandering around in New York

Hector Bellerin is well known for is involvement in this kind of thing
by Chester Perry
Thu Feb 13, 2020 1:58 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Two blokes wandering around in New York
Replies: 44
Views: 2378

Re: Two blokes wandering around in New York

It is New York Fashion week - their is a whole subculture that has evolved around it on social media - happens in any city where they have a group of fashion shows
by Chester Perry
Thu Feb 13, 2020 1:55 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 3084
Views: 311447

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

The investigation into the claims of West Ham's Owners that were contained in that infamous Sky apology continue to be investigated - this time the investment in scouting

https://twitter.com/mjshrimper/status/1 ... 3411689472
by Chester Perry
Thu Feb 13, 2020 1:47 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Everything thats wrong with the modern game
Replies: 34
Views: 1989

Re: Everything thats wrong with the modern game

actually Tony they appointed 3 and they all had to be approved by Man United and Liverpool - they blocked the last appointment, 1st appointment resigned after a private meeting with the big 6, 2nd appointment resigned after publication of his poor workplace behaviour. all the latest revelations on p...
by Chester Perry
Thu Feb 13, 2020 1:26 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 3084
Views: 311447

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

The Ornstein and Chapman Podcast with Gordon Taylor of the PFA - one of the games most successful recipients from Football's Magic Money Tree

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/t ... mpt=uo%3D4
by Chester Perry
Thu Feb 13, 2020 1:20 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 3084
Views: 311447

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Following that report piece by @MiguelDelaney yesterday and the interest it has generated the Independent have delayed the publishing of it's companion piece until tomorrow - the initial online publication of the report said part 2 would be available today - now they are saying that a companion piec...
by Chester Perry
Thu Feb 13, 2020 1:11 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 3084
Views: 311447

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Interesting decision by the FA to not allow an anti-gambling charity to film an add at Wembley - it was Gamble Aware one of the majors in this sector

https://inews.co.uk/sport/football/fa-g ... eo-1556413
by Chester Perry
Thu Feb 13, 2020 1:01 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 3084
Views: 311447

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

@TariqPanja with a quick explainer as to why Man City have gone on the attack at UEFA (it is a proven route to getting what you want) https://twitter.com/tariqpanja/status/1227687611713675264 all this is way up the thread including the transcript of the linked article - but as we know I can no longe...
by Chester Perry
Thu Feb 13, 2020 12:51 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 3084
Views: 311447

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Today's Price of Football Podcast is quite good - A look at the numbers behind the recent FA Cup replay between Liverpool and Shrewsbury, what happened in the January transfer window, Wimbledon's attempt to move back to Plough Lane, and signs of life at Bury. For information regarding your data priv...
by Chester Perry
Thu Feb 13, 2020 12:42 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: POST NUMBER
Replies: 13
Views: 819

Re: POST NUMBER

Fretters wrote:
Thu Feb 13, 2020 12:40 pm
What bugs me is how links now open in the same tab. I'm forever reading the link, then closing the tab to find myself off the site completely. Then I'm having to graft my way all the way back to the site!! It's exhausting.
This is the other major bug-bear - well done for posting it
by Chester Perry
Thu Feb 13, 2020 12:34 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 3084
Views: 311447

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

The guardian picks up on just how fiercely Man City are defending themselves/attacking UEFA of the charges they are facing - all revealed in those court documents linked by @SportingIntel in the post above https://www.theguardian.com/football/2020/feb/12/manchester-city-fury-ffp-case-leaks-court-doc...
by Chester Perry
Thu Feb 13, 2020 12:18 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: POST NUMBER
Replies: 13
Views: 819

Re: POST NUMBER

I have been complaining about this since it happened - after the long site shutdown and the board moved to an updated version of the hosts software - absolute folly to my mind (but then I do not know if it creates problems in the back-office) - I was aware that my direct referencing and linking of o...
by Chester Perry
Wed Feb 12, 2020 9:14 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Everything thats wrong with the modern game
Replies: 34
Views: 1989

Re: Everything thats wrong with the modern game

This article perfectly encapsulates what i think has been taking the soul out of the game for years https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/champions-league-superclubs-liverpool-man-utd-barcelona-real-madrid-a9330431.html As I posted about this on another thread - just the broad...
by Chester Perry
Wed Feb 12, 2020 8:06 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 3084
Views: 311447

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

@TariqPanja - who wrote the article that Man City are basing their damages case on - offers his take on the situation https://twitter.com/tariqpanja/status/1227675557363671047 https://twitter.com/tariqpanja/status/1227638446732324865 @sporting_intel adds some extra about this developing UEFA v City,...
by Chester Perry
Wed Feb 12, 2020 7:44 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 3084
Views: 311447

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Posted about the revived relationship between UEFA and CONMEBOL a few days ago - looks like they are about to organise a new competition between themselves - should rub a lot of people up the wrong way around the world and never mind the players being involved in yet more games https://twitter.com/t...
by Chester Perry
Wed Feb 12, 2020 7:31 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 3084
Views: 311447

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Man City are seeking damages from UEFA for "Unlawful" recommendation of punishment over the charges that are still to be tried Manchester City demanded damages from ‘unlawful’ Uefa after Champions League ban recommendation, court documents reveal Martyn Ziegler, Chief Sports Reporter - Wednesday Feb...
by Chester Perry
Wed Feb 12, 2020 7:00 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 3084
Views: 311447

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Last night I posted about the row in Belgium over their new rights deal (I have corrected the link) today the row goes on even though a winner has been declared two clubs are saying that they will not seel rights collectively and will sell the rights to their homes games themselves - it would be a h...
by Chester Perry
Wed Feb 12, 2020 6:19 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 3084
Views: 311447

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

With all the recent hype of PREMflix - which even Richard Masters in his interviews didn't really push - the Premier League are soothing the nrves of their TV partners - today at the Westminster Media Forum https://www.sportbusiness.com/news/bush-premier-league-retains-preference-for-rights-deals-ov...
by Chester Perry
Wed Feb 12, 2020 6:02 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 3084
Views: 311447

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

after yet more spending in the January transfer window - the equity pile at Aston Villa continues to grow - do they think that they will ever get their money back? - another £17m added which means almost £190m in the last couple of years I think https://twitter.com/KieranMaguire/status/1227641292462...
by Chester Perry
Wed Feb 12, 2020 5:06 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Gibson training at Middlesbrough
Replies: 385
Views: 14368

Re: Gibson training at Middlesbrough

Agree with your point, Chester but you picked a poor example in Keegan. Signed from Scunny in 1971. Impressed Shankly so much in pre-season training went straight in to first team. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Keegan please forgive my memory I was a toddler distracted by a baby brother at th...
by Chester Perry
Wed Feb 12, 2020 4:10 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Gibson training at Middlesbrough
Replies: 385
Views: 14368

Re: Gibson training at Middlesbrough

It is strange how long it takes for players to get there chance though isn’t it? I mean I know we have two very good players already but if I were one of those two I wouldn’t mind giving him a few games instead of me. This used to be the norm - players were signed and then not heard of for 12 or mo...
by Chester Perry
Wed Feb 12, 2020 3:54 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 3084
Views: 311447

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

And just to confirm that - look how much they have committed to this welcome but grossly inadequately funded initiative

https://www.fifa.com/about-fifa/who-we- ... protection
by Chester Perry
Wed Feb 12, 2020 3:49 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 3084
Views: 311447

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

FIFA release their Big 5 (leagues) transfer analysis - they are supposed to be the protectors of the game but seem more interested in the 0.01% press release - https://www.fifa.com/about-fifa/who-we-are/news/fifa-s-transfer-report-big-5-accounted-for-almost-three-quarters-of-global-spend the report ...
by Chester Perry
Wed Feb 12, 2020 3:17 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 3084
Views: 311447

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

missed this at the weekend - Vysyble look at the finances of those involved in the relegation scrap - the title of the piece says it all - Hammered

https://vysyble.com/blog
by Chester Perry
Wed Feb 12, 2020 2:16 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 3084
Views: 311447

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

@MiguelDelaney with a special report in the Independent - How football became broken beyond repair https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/champions-league-superclubs-liverpool-man-utd-barcelona-real-madrid-a9330431.html Part 2 tomorrow - which is good because this is just the br...
by Chester Perry
Wed Feb 12, 2020 12:29 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Gibson training at Middlesbrough
Replies: 385
Views: 14368

Re: Gibson training at Middlesbrough

From an accounts perspective anything over £8m for him in the summer would see us post a profit on the sale (it would have been £10m last month) assuming a £16m fee was actually paid
by Chester Perry
Wed Feb 12, 2020 10:42 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 3084
Views: 311447

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

The Sound of Football Podcast with a deep thought provoking discussion on the state of the games sparked by that Louise Taylor article in the Guardian

https://www.sofpodcast.com/2020/02/soun ... emier.html
by Chester Perry
Wed Feb 12, 2020 10:10 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 3084
Views: 311447

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Rochdale have published their accounts for the 2018/19 season @KieranMaguire takes a look https://twitter.com/KieranMaguire/status/1227369820997505025 This season should see an upturn what with a great cup run and the sale of their brightest first team prospect (who is actually still a schoolboy) It...
by Chester Perry
Wed Feb 12, 2020 1:27 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 3084
Views: 311447

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

One of the fallouts of Brexit is the discussion of quotas for home grown players with the FA keen on promoting English talent to help the national team - of course many Premier League teams have the minimum numbers of British players in their squads - so where will this additional talent come from s...
by Chester Perry
Tue Feb 11, 2020 11:48 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 3084
Views: 311447

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Following the failure for Socios to launch it's West Ham operation on time (Feb 6th was the declared date) the nonsense operation has lauched it's 2ng ever vote this time for an inscription to be embroidered onto the captains armband - people are actually paying to take part in this guff @ugly game ...
by Chester Perry
Tue Feb 11, 2020 11:37 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 3084
Views: 311447

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

This looks like it could be interesting - shame I cannot read it - a journalist with ideas for transforming the transfer window

https://twitter.com/AdamCrafton_/status ... 8951789568
by Chester Perry
Tue Feb 11, 2020 11:34 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 3084
Views: 311447

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

The sports sponsorship market as it can only be played by the biggest catches - Bayern seal a sponsorship deal with Varta who trade and have strong business relationships with other Bayern sponsors - It is a great way to demonstrate brand unity and strength you know https://www.sportbusiness.com/new...
by Chester Perry
Tue Feb 11, 2020 11:26 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 3084
Views: 311447

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Forbes.com with a very real warning that OTT subscription services are reaching Saturation point - just as the Premier League have publicly confirmed that they are considering the possibility for themselves - I have long thought this will be a problem and it is likely that an aggregator will be the ...
by Chester Perry
Tue Feb 11, 2020 11:15 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 3084
Views: 311447

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

further down the TV revenue market - they may have one of the best national teams in the world, but Belgium's top league does not earn that much form it's domestic and overseas media rights and worse still the trams cannot agree a distribution model - though it will be considerably less than Champio...
by Chester Perry
Tue Feb 11, 2020 11:04 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 3084
Views: 311447

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

and Nent who signed that deal with the Premier League last week have signed a 4 year deal with the Bundesliga this week - no indication of the value yet but it will be closely scrutinised as a marker of whether there are signs of a power shift in the international rights markets https://www.soccerex...
by Chester Perry
Tue Feb 11, 2020 11:00 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 3084
Views: 311447

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

KPMG have put a firm figure on that Nordic deal Euro 2.3bn - of course they could just have been careless (wouldn't be the first time) and converted from £2bn when all last weeks reports were more careful and said thought to be in excess of £2bn https://twitter.com/Football_BM/status/122727028352380...
by Chester Perry
Tue Feb 11, 2020 10:54 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 3084
Views: 311447

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Interesting quip from QC Nick de Marco with regards to FIFA's attempts at restricting agents fees - he is the first choice for anyone in these types of cases - sounds confident - and another who has profited very well from Football's Magic Money Tree https://twitter.com/nickdemarco_/status/122714176...
by Chester Perry
Tue Feb 11, 2020 10:50 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 3084
Views: 311447

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

This is useful for those that don't necessarily understand declared cash positions in the accounts - that of course is the position on that day it could have been substantially higher or lower during the year (normally the latter) - both Barcelona and Real Madrid are notorious for declaring their ac...