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by NL Claret
Wed Jul 03, 2019 3:50 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Strikers Crouch and Wells and their futures
Replies: 12
Views: 2259

Re: ARTICLE: Strikers Crouch and Wells and their futures

Assume UTC meltdown position.
by NL Claret
Wed Jul 03, 2019 2:43 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Trawlermen - Celebs at sea
Replies: 19
Views: 1516

Re: Trawlermen - Celebs at sea

Don't watch much TV however this was a worthwhile programme.
by NL Claret
Wed Jul 03, 2019 2:17 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Villa in early again
Replies: 87
Views: 5951

Re: Villa in early again

Perhaps ignoring FFP and spending a fortune to get out of the EFL has enabled them to do their business early?
by NL Claret
Wed Jul 03, 2019 12:30 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: BFC TRANSFER NEWS (MUST CONTAIN LINK)
Replies: 5242
Views: 510505

Re: BFC TRANSFER NEWS (MUST CONTAIN LINK)

You either accept that the careful approach will eventually lead to relegation but we will have safeguarded the club. To get to the next level from where we are we would need different ownership. Regardless of the approach will be relegated at some point, clubs of our size don't have a long PL shel...
by NL Claret
Tue Jul 02, 2019 12:36 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Bury : No Wages
Replies: 748
Views: 63103

Re: Bury : No Wages

The Shakers have appointed Paul Wilkinson as new boss, ex Everton and Grimsby centre forward.

Was previously manager of Truro City, National League South.
by NL Claret
Sun Jun 30, 2019 8:27 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Lancashire League Sunday
Replies: 58
Views: 2592

Re: Lancashire League Sunday

Great Harwood's pro earned his fee. 141 out of 206 and 4-13.
by NL Claret
Sun Jun 30, 2019 2:20 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Oldham v Burnley 97/98
Replies: 32
Views: 2374

Re: Oldham v Burnley 97/98

Awful night, heavens opened and as per usual Ronnie Jepson scored against us. That was a silent car journey home, no one spoke. Convinced we were going back to the bottom division.
by NL Claret
Wed Jun 26, 2019 8:52 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Bury : No Wages
Replies: 748
Views: 63103

Re: Bury : No Wages

Listened to Kieran Maguire on GMR last night, it sounds like Dale must have leant the club £3.6m before he bought the club. This is probably the reason he got it for a quid when Day realised the game was up. Dale takes over not realising the extent of all other debts. By doing the CVA the football c...
by NL Claret
Tue Jun 25, 2019 7:25 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Bury : No Wages
Replies: 748
Views: 63103

Re: Bury : No Wages

Dale, who took over the club for £1 from the previous owner, the property developer Stewart Day, in December, is stated in the company voluntary arrangement proposal to be owed £3.6m.

How does that work? Does Day owe him the money? Confusing or what.
by NL Claret
Sun Jun 23, 2019 6:44 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Most Memorable Matches Wrong Reasons
Replies: 72
Views: 5784

Re: Most Memorable Matches Wrong Reasons

djemba-djemba wrote:Early 1994.


Watching Gazza at Sheffield United away.
by NL Claret
Sat Jun 22, 2019 3:56 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: BFC TRANSFER NEWS (MUST CONTAIN LINK)
Replies: 5242
Views: 510505

Re: BFC TRANSFER NEWS (MUST CONTAIN LINK)

Having read a couple of utc threads / posts , Delph and if United get shut of Lingard they be perfect fit for Burnley.

BTW, I'm still on the ward.
by NL Claret
Fri Jun 21, 2019 8:09 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Lancashire League T20 21/6/19
Replies: 56
Views: 2191

Re: Lancashire League T20 21/6/19

It’s a big commitment playing Friday then Saturday or Sunday. Although at Rawtenstall the junior practices are attended by large numbers at the minute on Friday nights hopefully enough of them remain interested as they get older. Retention in football and cricket when they get to 18 is the tough on...
by NL Claret
Fri Jun 21, 2019 4:10 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Lancashire League T20 21/6/19
Replies: 56
Views: 2191

Re: Lancashire League T20 21/6/19

Can't really understand that when I assume they're running 2 teams? Surely with that as well as any half decent 15/16 year olds at the club they can get 10 lads together on a Friday night as well as the pro. Some local colleges have laid off staff over the past few years and one of the reasons is t...
by NL Claret
Thu Jun 20, 2019 10:54 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: What they'll be doing in the lower leagues
Replies: 48
Views: 2143

Re: What they'll be doing in the lower leagues

Can you name the ten ? 9 I think. Can see Salford becoming media darlings. Bolton -12 and still to get punished for not fulfilling the Brentford game. Bury haven't gone into administration so no point deduction. They have no manager and probably most players can't get out of there quick enough. A B...
by NL Claret
Thu Jun 20, 2019 1:08 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Heaton turns down new deal
Replies: 125
Views: 24174

Re: Heaton turns down new deal

tybfc wrote:Hi dick. I've posted many times on how Hart doesn't speak to his defence or midfield.

Heaton is brilliant at it and the results prove it.


UTC bullshit at its finest.

He probably never spoke to his defence or midfield when he won the golden glove and winning then PL.
by NL Claret
Thu Jun 20, 2019 12:00 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Heaton turns down new deal
Replies: 125
Views: 24174

Re: Heaton turns down new deal

Let me know what ward you are on and I'll pop in to visit you. :x sums up the mentality of some UTC posters. Watch the Everton goal where Tarky goes out to try to stop the cross, he's never going to affect it, poor decision. Surely better being in the middle trying to defend it , where was Lowton? ...
by NL Claret
Wed Jun 19, 2019 11:39 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Heaton turns down new deal
Replies: 125
Views: 24174

Re: Heaton turns down new deal

Lowton commits stupid foul for free kick and moves out of wall for one goal.

Excellent hanging cross which wasn't the keepers to come for , not dealt with by the defenders.

Dyche playing 3 centre halves.

Defence / non existent midfield backing off for another goal. Left after that one.
by NL Claret
Wed Jun 19, 2019 10:41 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Heaton turns down new deal
Replies: 125
Views: 24174

Re: Heaton turns down new deal

There was only one **** poor performance by a Burnley goalkeeper this season and it wasn't Hart.

Don't get me wrong, I'd rather have Heaton or Pope in goal but the crap posted on social media about Hart is odd.
by NL Claret
Wed Jun 19, 2019 10:09 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Heaton turns down new deal
Replies: 125
Views: 24174

Re: Heaton turns down new deal

Any thoughts as to why Lowton, Taylor, Mee, Tarky were under performing? Could it have been a lack of confidence in the goalkeeper. I’d say Heaton is far less hesitant coming off his line. Lack of confidence in the keeper? No. Lowton is a bit hit n miss, Taylor looked an average championship left b...
by NL Claret
Wed Jun 19, 2019 6:59 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Heaton turns down new deal
Replies: 125
Views: 24174

Re: Heaton turns down new deal

Joe is as good as Nick and Tom at shot stopping. But is so hesitant to come off his line the defence then lacks confidence in him and we concede. Heaton is hesitant too to come off his line. Hart's main problem was the under performance of lowton / Taylor / mee / tarky (probably not 100% fit) / cor...
by NL Claret
Wed Jun 19, 2019 2:01 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Bury : No Wages
Replies: 748
Views: 63103

Re: Bury : No Wages

Not sure if it gives the fans groups, Forever Bury / BOB time to persuade Capital (I think they are called) to put the club into administration so a buyer can be found. The local MP Jimmy Frith reckons there are two potential buyers but the asset stripper is not for selling. It is a very sad state o...
by NL Claret
Wed Jun 19, 2019 10:53 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Bury : No Wages
Replies: 748
Views: 63103

Re: Bury : No Wages

Adjourned for 6 weeks.
by NL Claret
Tue Jun 18, 2019 9:56 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: England U21 v France U21
Replies: 70
Views: 5065

Re: England U21 v France U21

KRBFC wrote:Who knew an Ady Boothroyd side could pass a football? right up there behind Dyche for the ''worst style of football in PL history'' award.


Could be the best ever UTC poster cast.

How to get yourself noticed on a football message board. Legend.
by NL Claret
Tue Jun 18, 2019 8:21 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: BFC TRANSFER NEWS (MUST CONTAIN LINK)
Replies: 5242
Views: 510505

Re: BFC TRANSFER NEWS (MUST CONTAIN LINK)

jrgbfc wrote:There's only so much Rigg can do if Dyche insists on being so fussy with his targets.


Why bring him at all then? So Rigg should have already set up this amazing European scouting network within 9 months. Was that his MO?
by NL Claret
Tue Jun 18, 2019 7:03 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: BFC TRANSFER NEWS (MUST CONTAIN LINK)
Replies: 5242
Views: 510505

Re: BFC TRANSFER NEWS (MUST CONTAIN LINK)

Depends really. His role is “technical director”, so if he fails to identify suitable targets and the window fails then sure, he has to take a lot of responsibility and a ruthless club would seek a replacement. That being said it’s perfectly possible for a disappointing window to occur without it b...
by NL Claret
Tue Jun 18, 2019 6:43 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Accrington Friendly
Replies: 16
Views: 1315

Re: Accrington Friendly

Andy Holt mentioned yesterday they were looking for a suitable ground that was big enough for them to use. Surprised they couldn’t find one closer than Salford (Is that the one by the Trafford Centre?) That's the one, you get a good view going north over Barton bridge . Think it's called the AJ Bel...
by NL Claret
Tue Jun 18, 2019 2:07 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: BFC TRANSFER NEWS (MUST CONTAIN LINK)
Replies: 5242
Views: 510505

Re: BFC TRANSFER NEWS (MUST CONTAIN LINK)

Burnley linked with Rapid Vienna full back Boli Mbombo. https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/9321333/burnley-huddersfield-rapid-vienna-boli-mbombo-3m/ Boden says he’s getting “blank looks”, but with him that could mean anything... Interesting response to boden asking if Rigg should be fired if i...
by NL Claret
Tue Jun 18, 2019 12:52 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: BFC TRANSFER NEWS (MUST CONTAIN LINK)
Replies: 5242
Views: 510505

Re: BFC TRANSFER NEWS (MUST CONTAIN LINK)

Probably more a case of a season long loan in league 1 or championship. Wouldn't loan him back to Bolton as he'd be in a relegation battle. NL does a small snigger.
by NL Claret
Tue Jun 18, 2019 12:00 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: BFC TRANSFER NEWS (MUST CONTAIN LINK)
Replies: 5242
Views: 510505

Re: BFC TRANSFER NEWS (MUST CONTAIN LINK)

Couldn't agree more. Its our stated business model, bring them in, add value, and sell a few years later when they are at or near their peak value. I totally agree it is the type of potential we should be signing. Some utc posters will want a foreign import costing millions. If dyche has actually m...
by NL Claret
Tue Jun 18, 2019 9:59 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: BFC TRANSFER NEWS (MUST CONTAIN LINK)
Replies: 5242
Views: 510505

Re: BFC TRANSFER NEWS (MUST CONTAIN LINK)

Marc Iles from Bolton News tweeted there's definite interest from Burnley / Sunderland in Harry Brockbank but Bolton are trying to get their act sorted out. The report says that Dyche has actually met with him, he's a right back so could be a one of those who will be ready once Bardsley packs up. No...
by NL Claret
Mon Jun 17, 2019 11:27 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley Express Tuesday edition to go
Replies: 24
Views: 3167

Re: Burnley Express Tuesday edition to go

The local press has sadly gone into massive decline since the growth of social media. Used to love the The Pink :D on a Saturday evening, you had to queue up to make sure you got a copy. Would read it from cover to cover. Wouldn't bother clicking on the Burnley express website and living in the Bury...
by NL Claret
Mon Jun 17, 2019 11:05 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: VAR
Replies: 82
Views: 3720

Re: VAR

I have already decided that, after this coming season. I am not prepared to make the 300 mile return trip to the Turf to see matches decided by people looking at a television screen. I played and refereed at a decent level for over 50 years at senior level and, apart from goal line technology, I do...
by NL Claret
Mon Jun 17, 2019 6:10 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ARTICLE: Two central defenders to choose from last ten years
Replies: 50
Views: 3045

Re: ARTICLE: Two central defenders to choose from last ten years

I feel sad for Andre Bikey, he could do easily have been the best, pity his head wasn't Apparently on his day, Andre Bikey was the best centre half in the championship. Claret Spice said he was the most athletic player he'd ever seen. He had a backside bigger than Rusty Lee and his day was Thursday...
by NL Claret
Mon Jun 17, 2019 3:04 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: League Cup draw to take place in a supermarket
Replies: 33
Views: 2810

Re: League Cup draw to take place in a supermarket

Are the EFL taking it less seriously than Sean Dyche?

That's a joke before anyone gets upset.
by NL Claret
Sun Jun 16, 2019 10:18 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: How many sellouts last year
Replies: 27
Views: 2574

Re: How many sellouts last year

Did you go to the exciting games at Crystal Palace, Man City, West Ham and Wolves too? :D No, I was so bored of the boring football we played against Southampton to bother watching us away again until the United game. I won't be going away again until Dyche can guarantee unboring football and we go...
by NL Claret
Sun Jun 16, 2019 9:55 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: How many sellouts last year
Replies: 27
Views: 2574

Re: How many sellouts last year

bfcjg wrote:I think the boring football away from home puts lots of it certainly did me.


I went to the boring game at Man U and watched the boring games on tv against Brighton and Chelsea. Oh so boring football :roll:
by NL Claret
Sun Jun 16, 2019 9:33 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Change of approach for policing football in South Yorkshire
Replies: 13
Views: 1473

Re: Change of approach for policing football in South Yorkshire

The SY PD and West Midlands PD were very never shy back in the day. South Yorkshire usually won the award for the most unsavoury and brutal. I think it was Rotherham away, the week after Hillsboro that Claret Tony briefed us youngsters on the coach about the police, "they be like a cat on a hot...
by NL Claret
Sat Jun 15, 2019 3:27 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: BFC TRANSFER NEWS (MUST CONTAIN LINK)
Replies: 5242
Views: 510505

Re: BFC TRANSFER NEWS (MUST CONTAIN LINK)

Problem is he'd be likely to be stuck on the bench all season and not given a chance. If he's a wide player he'll have McNeil, JBG, Brady and Lennon ahead of him. Loan him to a championship club for a season, comes back a better player and then becomes Lennon's replacement once his contract is up o...
by NL Claret
Wed Jun 12, 2019 12:31 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Laurent Banide in at Oldham
Replies: 23
Views: 2798

Re: Laurent Banide in at Oldham

Pete Wild , former caretaker , was on GMR this morning questioning the appointment based on no knowledge of players at the level, doesn't know what it takes to get out of league 2 and doesn't speak English.

He be long gone before the clocks go back.
by NL Claret
Tue Jun 11, 2019 8:20 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Leeds move for Vydra
Replies: 167
Views: 13328

Re: Leeds move for Vydra

So in terms of undisclosed fees, amortisation (which I don't totally understand) and staged payments, in the modern world of transfers it's not really possible to put the figure lost unless you are an accountant and looked at the books.
by NL Claret
Tue Jun 11, 2019 7:56 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Leeds move for Vydra
Replies: 167
Views: 13328

Re: Leeds move for Vydra

So without knowing the clauses it will be impossible to state how much Burnley will lose if they sell Vydra now for £6m, possibly also guessing on his undisclosed transfer fee?
by NL Claret
Tue Jun 11, 2019 6:49 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Leeds move for Vydra
Replies: 167
Views: 13328

Re: Leeds move for Vydra

I'm not going to quote long time lurker for obvious reasons. I'm not an expert although some might be able to answer the question. Burnley signed Vydra for say £12m, if it was spread over 3 years, say £5m upfront and the rest in instalments. What happens if we sell him after 1 season? Do we have to ...
by NL Claret
Wed Jun 05, 2019 8:08 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: When did Burnley erect the fences?
Replies: 54
Views: 3710

Re: When did Burnley erect the fences?

Searching the memory bank here. When we promotion against chesterfield were they up? They were definitely up against Bolton in the 1st game of the next season in division 2 1982/83.
by NL Claret
Tue Jun 04, 2019 8:02 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Vydra speaks again
Replies: 50
Views: 5906

Re: Vydra speaks again

Let's not forget Dyche was reluctant to use a player of Defours ability in his first season with us. It's a bit simplistic to suggest because he's not playing he isn't good enough. Let's not forget Defour had the ability but no where near the fitness or close to being Dyche fit in his first season ...
by NL Claret
Tue Jun 04, 2019 12:52 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: camping
Replies: 27
Views: 1837

Re: camping

If you want location location there is the site in the middle of Bowness, shower block looked good. Brathwaite Fold I think it's called. Mate has put his motor home on there twice. It is busy all year round and would probably need to book. Park Coppice which is on the shores of Coniston. There is an...
by NL Claret
Mon Jun 03, 2019 1:22 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Unions at work
Replies: 37
Views: 1930

Re: Unions at work

Was in Unison when I worked for British Gas and the local rep did get me a few quid after a bonus dispute but when the rationalisation/ job cuts started they disappeared and were no use. Was in UCU when I worked in education. Again, when it came to redundancy they excelled at uselessness. Was advise...
by NL Claret
Mon Jun 03, 2019 12:07 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Kindle football autobiographies
Replies: 6
Views: 460

Re: Kindle football autobiographies

Steve1956 wrote:Cheers I fancy the Lee Howey one £6.64....it must be good :)



Jon Parkin's book is hilarious. Read it in an afternoon on holiday.

Not an autobiography but an excellent read about north west football is On The Brink by Simon Hughes.
by NL Claret
Sun Jun 02, 2019 3:22 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Stan
Replies: 30
Views: 3228

Re: Stan

Ah yes - Derby away! How could anyone who was there forget that??? Not a classic game by any stretch but a classic day out and a brilliant Claret following with non-stop singing. It's weird to imagine in these days when we're so blase about beating Derby home and away (when we're not a league above...
by NL Claret
Sun Jun 02, 2019 2:28 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Stan
Replies: 30
Views: 3228

Re: Stan

Another couple of classic Stan interviews were after the 1-0 defeat to Barnsley away on Boxing Day when we'd had too much plum duff and when he subbed Glen Little 5 minutes after bringing him on. The interview when he described Robbie Blake as playing in divers boots. Enjoyed the Stan years in parti...
by NL Claret
Sun Jun 02, 2019 9:45 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Signing players past their best
Replies: 27
Views: 2471

Re: Signing players past their best

Gerry Gow, Steve Daley, Steve Taylor (2nd spell), Peter Daniel, Steve Thompson, Gazza to name but a few.

Joe Hart :roll: certainly didn't come into my mind.

Life is tough for some UTC posters.

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