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- Sun Feb 18, 2024 12:18 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Which team wins
- Replies: 63
- Views: 2240
Re: Which team wins
Muric Roberts THB Beyer Maatsen Cullen Cork Benson Brownhill Zaroury Barnes Trafford Assignon O'Shea Esteve Delcroix Berge Brownhill Ramsey Amdouni Odabert Fofana Which team wins the game? How have we managed to get so much worse?? Seeing Maatsen defend in the PL fills me with as much fear as actua...
- Sat Feb 17, 2024 8:53 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Brilliant New Burnley Podcast
- Replies: 803
- Views: 69077
Re: Brilliant New Burnley Podcast
I did appreciate the delicious irony of within 2 minutes talking about ‘how much we’ll spunk on a league 1 GK‘, followed by talking about how Dan Burn is being bullied by his own fans at Newcastle.
Defo agree Boden needs a decent Mic
Defo agree Boden needs a decent Mic
- Wed Feb 14, 2024 2:31 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: New York
- Replies: 63
- Views: 3538
Re: New York
Emmett’s pizza in Soho. Best deep dish in Manhattan with some top quality wine to go with it.
Keys and Heels is amazing too but I’ll let you google to find out what that is
Keys and Heels is amazing too but I’ll let you google to find out what that is
- Mon Feb 12, 2024 8:02 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Email from the club
- Replies: 50
- Views: 3928
Re: Email from the club
Full Winnie the Pooh style? Will no doubt at least get the crowd going
- Mon Feb 12, 2024 7:34 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Email from the club
- Replies: 50
- Views: 3928
Re: Email from the club
Bricking it, methinks. They’ll no doubt have to put their forecast of renewals in to the shareholders soon which, given the current predicament of the club, ain’t gonna be great.
That’s before they ask for additional money for it.
- Mon Feb 12, 2024 7:31 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Email from the club
- Replies: 50
- Views: 3928
Re: Email from the club
Wow. Tin foil hat at the ready for that suggestion.
My guess is its to create some sort of promo video / slideshow to put on the screens at half time.
- Mon Feb 12, 2024 2:54 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Lyle Foster
- Replies: 44
- Views: 4698
Re: Lyle Foster
I havent seen anything particularly incendiary from official channels. Namely one guy from the South African FA who states 'I don’t know the details why it was not possible for him to play for his club and not his country. We would have to investigate whether, if it was the club or himself'. I've se...
- Sun Feb 11, 2024 11:19 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Lyle Foster
- Replies: 44
- Views: 4698
Re: Lyle Foster
It’s a board of opinions Westleigh, no vendettas here.
You clutch them pearls, though. Folk can draw their own conclusions.
You clutch them pearls, though. Folk can draw their own conclusions.
- Sun Feb 11, 2024 11:10 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Lyle Foster
- Replies: 44
- Views: 4698
Re: Lyle Foster
And yet you post dross like the following about Trafford (one of our players who is struggling at the minute) the outfield players must be so ****** off watching him mess up game after game. And this about Trafford being at someone’s house after drowning his sorrows following his Liverpool performan...
- Sun Feb 11, 2024 10:55 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: TRAFFORD (AGAIN)
- Replies: 721
- Views: 28822
Re: TRAFFORD (AGAIN)
Good point Kilson. Whilst I think bumba was being more specific about Muric’s lack of gametime it could be purely as a result of their overall squad being upset at the way results have panned out.
- Sun Feb 11, 2024 10:36 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: TRAFFORD (AGAIN)
- Replies: 721
- Views: 28822
Re: TRAFFORD (AGAIN)
Well at least we’ve made progress that him being unhappy is not something ‘we all’ know and more something you specifically might know.
Like someone knew about the kosovan mafia thing.
- Sun Feb 11, 2024 8:44 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: TRAFFORD (AGAIN)
- Replies: 721
- Views: 28822
Re: TRAFFORD (AGAIN)
He looks miserable walking across the pitch every week, he's an international keeper he will want to play for his country. So it isn’t the case that ‘we do all know he isn’t happy’? Just that your interpretation of his body language says he isn’t, specifically to you? The same as some other posters...
- Sun Feb 11, 2024 8:23 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: TRAFFORD (AGAIN)
- Replies: 721
- Views: 28822
Re: TRAFFORD (AGAIN)
Recruitment is difficult in January, doubt the club wanted to be tied down searching for new keepers as well. Maybe Muric has better offers in the summer truth is none of us know. What we do all know is that he isn't happy and will be leaving if things haven't changed How do ‘we all’ know he isn’t ...
- Sun Feb 11, 2024 8:15 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: TRAFFORD (AGAIN)
- Replies: 721
- Views: 28822
- Sun Feb 11, 2024 8:12 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: TRAFFORD (AGAIN)
- Replies: 721
- Views: 28822
- Sun Feb 11, 2024 7:26 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football on your travels
- Replies: 7
- Views: 526
Re: Football on your travels
I’ve played for FC Mississauga (Toronto) in the early 00’s and FC Warren (New Jersey) in the 2010’s.
- Sun Feb 11, 2024 6:56 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: TRAFFORD (AGAIN)
- Replies: 721
- Views: 28822
Re: TRAFFORD (AGAIN)
The daft thing is with the way top teams expect their keepers to play these days we'd more than likely make a bigger profit off selling Muric after a season in the premier than we ever will from selling Trafford So why didn’t / dont we? Other clubs must also have scouted him and seen his style of p...
- Sun Feb 11, 2024 6:54 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: TRAFFORD (AGAIN)
- Replies: 721
- Views: 28822
- Sun Feb 11, 2024 6:39 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Football on your travels
- Replies: 7
- Views: 526
Football on your travels
As I’m sat here in the middle of nowhere (Northern Poland) I have the joy of catching Slask Wroclaw vs Pogon Szczecin when who pops up in the Szczecin team but Mr Fredrik Ulvestad! Also Kamil Grosicki (an almost claret if it weren’t for his casino bills) It got me thinking that Grosicki being polish...
- Sun Feb 11, 2024 6:21 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: TRAFFORD (AGAIN)
- Replies: 721
- Views: 28822
Re: TRAFFORD (AGAIN)
Fair point this, only other reason is that he's potentially paid £19m for nothing more than a rookie goalkeeper, although I'd doubt it will ever reach £19m because the add ons are not likely to come to fruition, but obviously appearances will come in to play which he's getting plenty of courtesy of...
- Sun Feb 11, 2024 6:07 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: TRAFFORD (AGAIN)
- Replies: 721
- Views: 28822
Re: TRAFFORD (AGAIN)
There is no logically explanation to drop the championship goalkeeper of the season It has to be money related I keep saying this but VK decided in June that Muric was going to be replaced. At the time that was for Verbruggen (a full Netherlands international). The only logic that Trafford keeps pl...
- Sun Feb 11, 2024 3:27 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: TRAFFORD (AGAIN)
- Replies: 721
- Views: 28822
Re: TRAFFORD (AGAIN)
so VK can start Vigouroux next week?
- Sun Feb 11, 2024 1:14 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: TRAFFORD (AGAIN)
- Replies: 721
- Views: 28822
Re: TRAFFORD
Agree with this, and as you may have noticed I've been very critical of Trafford but do agree with the points your making here, however now more than ever the biggest change vk needs to make is to get Trafford out of the firing line at this stage because as many are saying it won't be helping he's ...
- Sun Feb 11, 2024 9:33 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: TRAFFORD (AGAIN)
- Replies: 721
- Views: 28822
Re: TRAFFORD (AGAIN)
Unfortunately it seems we’ll never know if the outfield players were composed enough to play possession football with Muric in goal, similar to last season, but glimpses have told me it’s unlikely. Amdouni losing the ball for their second yesterday on the edge of the box puts doubt in my head more s...
- Sun Feb 11, 2024 9:13 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: TRAFFORD (AGAIN)
- Replies: 721
- Views: 28822
Re: TRAFFORD (AGAIN)
Wasn’t it the Preston game where Muric spent 60 of the game near the centre circle? So many games last season we didn’t need to defend because we kept possession so well.
- Sun Feb 11, 2024 9:09 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: TRAFFORD (AGAIN)
- Replies: 721
- Views: 28822
Re: TRAFFORD
Trafford is going to continue to concede from crossses as PL teams are now focusing their efforts in that manner. He’s weak on crosses no doubt about it and that’s not helped by an ever changing defence and now midfield (with Ramsey starting the last two). I fully expect Massengo to be next to be ch...
- Sun Feb 11, 2024 8:19 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Liverpool v Burnley - Player Ratings
- Replies: 43
- Views: 3593
Re: Liverpool v Burnley - Player Ratings
Trafford 5 - Awful error for the first and completely misjudged the trajectory of the cross. Again. Assignon 7 - Set piece marking suspect but looks a PL fullback. O’Shea 8 - Easily his best game and capped it with a goal. Estève 7 - Bit of a baptism of fire but did well in the main against liVARpoo...
- Sat Feb 10, 2024 11:17 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: TRAFFORD (AGAIN)
- Replies: 721
- Views: 28822
Re: TRAFFORD (AGAIN)
Yes I did judge it like that, but only because you said Muric threw it directly to the Spurs player so to me it sounded like you considered him to be 100% at fault. Had you described what had actually happened originally, I'd have viewed it as a totally fair point because there is without doubt inc...
- Sat Feb 10, 2024 11:05 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: TRAFFORD (AGAIN)
- Replies: 721
- Views: 28822
Re: TRAFFORD (AGAIN)
Hmm. Inconsistency has certainly been the theme of the goalkeeper debate, that much is true, at least. Interestingly (this is genuinely not accusatory) when you saw my examples of Trafford being attributed with 100% blame where others were involved, did this mean you judged my Muric example as me b...
- Sat Feb 10, 2024 11:00 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: TRAFFORD (AGAIN)
- Replies: 721
- Views: 28822
Re: TRAFFORD (AGAIN)
Its hard to escape the feeling that Trafford is playing because the club invested a huge amount of money in him. Same with Amdouni and to some extent Ramsey. Or Muric monumentally **** the bed in June last year. Something is off for him not to be playing considering corners against us are like pena...
- Sat Feb 10, 2024 10:45 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: TRAFFORD (AGAIN)
- Replies: 721
- Views: 28822
Re: TRAFFORD (AGAIN)
Genuine question here - how does this fit with what you said about him throwing it directly to Porro? I appreciate that you later corrected the record after I pointed it out, but clearly you did imply that it was 100% Muric's fault because no other Burnley player could have been involved. I didnt c...
- Sat Feb 10, 2024 10:35 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: TRAFFORD (AGAIN)
- Replies: 721
- Views: 28822
Re: TRAFFORD (AGAIN)
Form your own opinion from it but I thought it was a good throw out and Amdouni purposely tried the flick around Porro, trying to catch him out, instead of moving towards the ball to control it. Thanks. As I see it, Muric throws it for Amdouni to run onto at which point Porro is underway to interce...
- Sat Feb 10, 2024 10:23 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: TRAFFORD (AGAIN)
- Replies: 721
- Views: 28822
Re: TRAFFORD (AGAIN)
IMG_5011.png I've just been trawling youtube to find a video with the throw out and couldnt find one, only where it cuts to Amdouni being dispossessed. I would say from the angle, the ball is being thrown slightly to Amdouni's left, for him to run on to, which I recall. Post the link and I'll be ha...
- Sat Feb 10, 2024 10:18 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: TRAFFORD (AGAIN)
- Replies: 721
- Views: 28822
Re: TRAFFORD (AGAIN)
Your comments of 'pious waffle' along with your 'tumbleweed' hissy fits at slow responses, only serve to look bad on you rather than me.
Engage in discussion without your insults if you have the capacity.
Engage in discussion without your insults if you have the capacity.
- Sat Feb 10, 2024 10:06 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: TRAFFORD (AGAIN)
- Replies: 721
- Views: 28822
Re: TRAFFORD (AGAIN)
Yeah, you've already had one hissy fit already. Best not to make yourself look more silly for arguing the difference in a pass to a marked man with Porro stood next to him being vastly different to a pass to Porro himself, when the result was the same.
- Sat Feb 10, 2024 10:00 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: TRAFFORD (AGAIN)
- Replies: 721
- Views: 28822
Re: TRAFFORD (AGAIN)
Still Amdouni’s fault. He could’ve controlled it normally but tried to flick it around Porro instead. And there we have it. He couldnt control it because it was thrown as he was running onto it, whilst Porro was intercepting. Regardless, you'd thing the better option was not for the keeper to pass ...
- Sat Feb 10, 2024 9:57 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: TRAFFORD (AGAIN)
- Replies: 721
- Views: 28822
- Sat Feb 10, 2024 9:53 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: TRAFFORD (AGAIN)
- Replies: 721
- Views: 28822
Re: TRAFFORD (AGAIN)
I'm not saying Muric is absolved of blame. I'm saying you should amend your factually incorrect statement before calling out others for misconceptions and biases. Sorry. Threw it toward Amdouni (marked by Porro) who was was unable to touch it round his man, who went on to fire it into our net.
- Sat Feb 10, 2024 9:45 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: TRAFFORD (AGAIN)
- Replies: 721
- Views: 28822
Re: TRAFFORD (AGAIN)
Haven't read your post because it was long and likely to be stupid, but come on. I will go on the Turf and support the players as I always have, but it isn't virtuous or impressive to pretend this goalie is good. As delicious the irony in your post is, you might want to actually read it. I more tha...
- Sat Feb 10, 2024 9:43 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: TRAFFORD (AGAIN)
- Replies: 721
- Views: 28822
Re: TRAFFORD (AGAIN)
I've got no real problem with Trafford, but given your post is aimed at correcting misconceptions and calling out biases, could you please confirm which game you are referring to here? If it's Spurs away in the Cup, I'm sure you'll wish to amend your statement when you watch it back and see that Mu...
- Sat Feb 10, 2024 9:34 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: TRAFFORD (AGAIN)
- Replies: 721
- Views: 28822
Re: TRAFFORD (AGAIN)
Within 6 minutes too.daveisaclaret wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2024 9:25 pmAn utterly shite goalie and a very suitable symbol for this whole wasted season.
Nevermind.
- Sat Feb 10, 2024 9:33 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Heaton replacing Hart moment again?
- Replies: 71
- Views: 3784
Re: Heaton replacing Hart moment again?
I bet VK would throw Muric straight back in if we had a top half PL defence, which Muric had been playing behind for a few years already.
Seen as we don't, I can't see Muric wearing the GK's shirt suddenly galvanising the turd of a defensive unit (all 14 variants of it this season).
Seen as we don't, I can't see Muric wearing the GK's shirt suddenly galvanising the turd of a defensive unit (all 14 variants of it this season).
- Sat Feb 10, 2024 9:19 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: TRAFFORD (AGAIN)
- Replies: 721
- Views: 28822
Re: TRAFFORD (AGAIN)
The illusion of truth (particularly hindsight bias) which has been created surrounding Trafford is quite scary. We're now at the point where he is apparently making mistakes 'every week'. On the flip side, I see one poster has today mentioned this is the first goal conceded which can solely be attri...
- Sat Feb 10, 2024 6:10 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Heaton replacing Hart moment again?
- Replies: 71
- Views: 3784
Re: Heaton replacing Hart moment again?
The odious superjohnnyfrancis seems to have been deleted from the board.fidelcastro wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2024 6:05 pmWhoever you were previously, you were obviously a troll.
I'll leave it at that.
No longer the sole occupant of my foe list anymore anyway.
- Sat Feb 10, 2024 6:04 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Heaton replacing Hart moment again?
- Replies: 71
- Views: 3784
Re: Heaton replacing Hart moment again?
A settled defence which qualified for the Europa league the previous season, was what Heaton stepped behind. One he’d played with (for the most part) for a year before his injury. Trafford or even Muric would be behind a defence that’s never played in the PL and is currently in its 14th incantation ...
- Sat Feb 10, 2024 6:01 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Stability or Tinkering
- Replies: 49
- Views: 3634
Re: Stability or Tinkering
14 unique defences in 24 games now.
Stinker by Trafford for their first today but I can’t help thinking this must be contributing to our defensive marking and performance from set pieces.
Stinker by Trafford for their first today but I can’t help thinking this must be contributing to our defensive marking and performance from set pieces.
- Sat Feb 10, 2024 4:39 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Today’s thread - Liverpool v Burnley
- Replies: 601
- Views: 16733
Re: Today’s thread - Liverpool v Burnley
We miss our chances they take theirs (with a little help from VAR)
- Sat Feb 10, 2024 4:28 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Today’s thread - Liverpool v Burnley
- Replies: 601
- Views: 16733
- Sat Feb 10, 2024 4:19 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Today’s thread - Liverpool v Burnley
- Replies: 601
- Views: 16733
Re: Today’s thread - Liverpool v Burnley
Tricky Trevor wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2024 4:17 pmIn the build up to their second. Ramsey toes the ball away, Mcallister kicks him on the shin.
They score. VAR aren’t interested, they never run the film back that far. Goal stands.
VK gets booked for saying, “that’s a foul”.
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- Sat Feb 10, 2024 3:59 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Today’s thread - Liverpool v Burnley
- Replies: 601
- Views: 16733
Re: Today’s thread - Liverpool v Burnley
Having seen that replay for their first the worrying bit is not Traffords physicality but that he totally misjudged the cross and was under the ball. Even if noone was in his way, he's not catching that. His ability on crosses is getting progressively worse in the past two months. Not the only playe...