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CoolClaret

We will finish on 28 points. Forest will finish on 34 and be deduced 5 points. We will go down. We will get 138 points next season. Europa League the season after. Not sure about the one after, my crystal ball ran out of battery. This is verbatim exactly what I/others were saying happy clappers wou...

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Apart from maybe a couple of our players I really can’t see any club wanting to buy them, I just haven’t seen an improvement either in quality of player or playing style. I’m not calling for VK out but we look completely lost. O'Shea, Koleosho definitely improved (kolo till injury) - rest of the yo...

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Sheff United lost their two best players to start the season, (one of which to us btw) and are sat on the same amount of points as we are at the foot of the table. Summer was an absolute madness - I have no idea wtf the team is meant to be in terms of identity/playstyle, I have no idea why some play...

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I disagree. It’s not fag packet maths, it’s taken from transfermarkt in terms of what they’ve spent vs us and our spend is a pittance compared to teams outside the relegation zone. - Fulham are a slight exception but even they are €68m last summer, €72m year prior. €140m in total. - Palace €78m las...

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Royboyclaret wrote: ↑
Sun Feb 18, 2024 12:33 am
Fully take your point......which is why I'm still struggling to understand this massive contrast from last season to this.

It's a real shock - I've never seen anything quite like it whilst supporting the Clarets, well never seen anything like it in football in all honesty.

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We will always be there since many decades ago. But, as DCWat points posts, important players like Benson and Zaroury need to be influential, as they should have been this season. Aye but what I'm saying there's hardly going to be a buzz of going in a new direction - poor campaigns can lead to a ma...

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I’m not making excuses, I’ve been saying for a long time we’re down and we are not Prem level at all. I also think that some of the signings this year are simply not premier league quality, yet. And I’d agree that Kompany and Pace need a long, hard review as to whether their strategy, tactics, etc ...

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I also wonder just how much fight the likes of Benson and Zaroury might have for another season in the championship, with us. That their opportunities have been so limited this season will hardly encourage them for next. It’ll take some good man management to have them fully on board. & the fans, w...

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Strange then that other teams have academies for that purpose, I've not seen any other team throwing 6,7,8 players in like lamb's to the slaughter in the way kompany has, if kompany aspires to become a top 6 side which is what he's suggested in previous interviews especially last season then he sho...

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boatshed bill wrote: ↑
Sat Feb 17, 2024 11:40 pm
I wonder what their wage bill is?

Wonder what ours is? Ginormous squad! Soon find out mind...

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claptrappers_union wrote: ↑
Sat Feb 17, 2024 11:39 pm

£15m deal triggered on (probably) Ali Dia’s cousin

tickled me

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A fairly often asked question is “who is the best player you’ve seen against us in the Turf?” and the unanimous decision has mostly been Cesc Fabregas. There’s an opposition player almost every game doing a “Cesc Fabregas” to us this season. Even Matty Cash did a “Cesc Fabregas” to us. It’s just an...

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Nori1958 wrote: ↑
Sat Feb 17, 2024 11:31 pm
Rice

I'll give you Rice.

Other than that they haven't spent massively on other players in all fairness.

Also, that's one team - no team outside the top 4 is doing that.

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Nori1958 wrote: ↑
Sat Feb 17, 2024 11:29 pm
It's not 100m, but even if it was, quite a few, including today's opposition

Yes it is - and we have something insane like 36 players on the books.

Who have Arsenal signed for over 100 mill - name one?

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Mark the Claret wrote: ↑
Sat Feb 17, 2024 11:21 pm
There's just too many with 'potential' we should have built a team with 3 or 4 young footballers, not a half a squad.

May as well have chucked 100 mill into the academy.

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Could not disagree with this more. I really cannot understand how football fans don’t understand the difference between the quality of the opposition in the premier league vs championship. The team have not gone backwards, we’re just playing teams several levels better than anything we faced last y...

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boatshed bill wrote: ↑
Sat Feb 17, 2024 11:11 pm
Yes, it's quite "perplexing" ... that's the other favourite

Actually it's "mind-boggling"

I use that one a lot because this season is genuinely a perplexing, baffling, mind-boggling shitst0rm of gargantuan proportions.

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RVclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Feb 17, 2024 9:34 pm
Not like you two to miss the point (hint, look at the thread title).

I think it's you that's massively missing the point tbh, with each passing loss.

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RVclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Feb 17, 2024 9:22 pm
40 goals of our 55 conceded have been against teams in the top 10. In our next 9 games we play just 3 teams in the top 10.

You see the thing is... you kinda have to play the top 10 every season in the PL and need to take points off some of them if you want to stay up.

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My question was how does this compare vs set pieces defended? If we have to defend more set plays we’ll concede more goals from them. That, I assume, is obvious. So the truth in whether our zonal marking is the issue, or how many set plays we concede is the real problem, lies in that stat. Which I ...

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Are we not playing with a keeper then, or are you just taking it as a given that Trafford will be in goal? Interestingly when driving back tonight, Dean Saunders on Talksport said Trafford looks, plays and carries himself like a youth team keeper. Anyone with half a brain came to a similar conclusi...

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Don't let the unwarranted amount of stick you get make you paranoid , you are just hurting more than most and using the board to let go of it. There are many posters who are a bigger pain in the ass. Its not a bad side with Berge pushed up more but I'd persevere with Trafford at this late stage. Fo...

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I’m not one to rely on stats at all. I’m just saying what I see, which to be frank is very few goals conceded from vs corners defended. Same I am not saying we haven’t conceded from set-plays, just I’ll be surprised if relatively speaking our zonal marking is as bad as the title of this thread sugg...

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Embarrassingly bad.

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Brownhill has been very poor of recent and looks like a player that knows he isn't going to be at the club next season. I wouldn't have him in the team now, at least not in a midfield two.

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You’re so fickle and lacking in knowledge I’d rather you not respond to me. McKenna has achieved nothing, you can’t compare him to a manager that hit 101 points. McKenna is tbf coming up from L1 with naff all budget - it's very different to what VK achieved last season (which shouldn't be taken for...

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helmclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Feb 17, 2024 7:53 pm
Ramsey was brilliant in the championship last season.

Was he as good/impactful as Manuel Benson?

Did f all against us in the two games in which he played - that's for certain.

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Swap Brun Larsen for Fofana as I'm not sure he's a winger, and I'd agree. Maybe keep Brownhill in just for his legs & energy to keep us a bit more physical centrally, but I've been begging us to try a fast-breaking, actually aggressive 433 all season. Use the fact we've got a bunch of young whippet...

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I got a glimpse of both Muric and Benson.

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Obviously wish nothing but the best for him - hope he's alright.

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This is what it looks like when you sign a squad of players with the primary aim of reselling them for a profit. Personally I would prefer we had spent all that money - a staggering amount of money by the way - on a team that was partially competitive at this level. That should have been fairly sim...

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Silkyskills1 wrote: ↑
Sat Feb 17, 2024 7:12 pm
But it can.

Can it?

This is as bad of a season (relatively for spend/league) that we've ever had.

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Murger wrote: ↑
Sat Feb 17, 2024 7:10 pm
There’s so much ******** about how VK is still learning. He’s managed more games the Gary O’Neill and Rob Edwards. They are both head and shoulders above VK atm.

I think some don't realise he managed for 3 seasons in Belgium before coming over here.

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RVclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Feb 17, 2024 6:22 pm
Interestingly TurfCast (most popular Burnley fan twitter account there is) have done a poll of VK in or out, currently it’s at 69% IN.

259 votes is such a huge sample size.

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gandhisflipflop wrote: ↑
Sat Feb 17, 2024 6:14 pm
Norwich 2-0 Burnley.

It was that bad.

We were a Cornet sitter away from 1-1 weren't we?

Entirely different

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I honestly can't believe he spent the best part of £65 million on Amdouni, Trafford, Ramsey and Tresor.

We'd have at least as many if not more points if non of them had signed. Staggering money for a club of our size.

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Nori1958 wrote: ↑
Sat Feb 17, 2024 5:43 pm
Usual reaction following a 5-0 thrashing...

Fixed it for you.

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------------Muric Assignon-O'Shea-Esteve-Taylor ------------Cullen ------JBG----------Berge Fofana------Foster-------Odobert Foster obviously won't be available, Esteve shaky today but prepared to give another chance... Change for: ------------Muric Assignon-O'Shea-Esteve-Taylor ------------Cullen ...

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forzagranata wrote: ↑
Sat Feb 17, 2024 5:28 pm
Quite a few future Turkish league players on that field.

Mr Amdouni has Trabzonspor written all over him.

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Trafford 4
Assignon 4
O’Shea 5
Estève 4
Delcroix 5
Berge 5
Brownhill 3
Ramsey 3
Amdouni 3
Odobert 4
Fofana 5

Gudmundsson 4
Taylor 6
Rodriguez 5

VK 3

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Pearcey wrote: ↑
Sat Feb 17, 2024 5:26 pm
He signed loads of players from abroad. Buendia, Pukki etc etc.

He signed a few yeah - not all in one window replacing the team he had that romped the Champ though did he?

Pukki and Buendia were good as well!!

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Pearcey wrote: ↑
Sat Feb 17, 2024 5:23 pm
Agree with Vegas. He needs to start next season. Daniel Farke was the same at Norwich and their fans wanted him out. They’d all have him back in a heartbeat now.

I don't think Farke was ever backed quite like this, was he?

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It's the man management aspect that I have serious concerns about. Tactics are one thing but keeping a unit together and believing is the main thing - I haven't seen any evidence of that. To have just one player that played in a 101 point Champ winning team today is just insane. How can you expect t...

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Honestly this season was so predictable.

You just cannot do what he did in Summer and expect to have a cohesive unit.

It was obvious then, just painful now.

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Declan Rice alone cost pretty much the same as our entire team, so whilst there should be some perspective I didn't see any fight at all and that can't be allowed at any level in a Burnley shirt We've played him before plenty of times like! I'm more bothered about how unenjoyable we are to watch no...

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When did we last get potted 5-0 at home?

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burnleymik wrote: ↑
Sat Feb 17, 2024 4:54 pm
These lads are not trying for VK. They just cannot be this bad, can they?

No I think they have genuine quality, just been awfully managed from summer till now.

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A couple on here actually thought we did well 1st half which I find laughable tbh, the warning signs for this car crash performance were sawn as soon as the 1st went in and we completely stopped any form of pressing or showed any intensity or intent in our play! It's the same that gaslight about wh...

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Foshiznik wrote: ↑
Sat Feb 17, 2024 4:45 pm
I’m putting this Arsenal game in between the Villa and Spurs game in second position.

I'd go with that.

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Someone tell me one thing Trafford does better than Muric. Shot stopping?

Debatable - think his general positioning / presence are absolutely shocking

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