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- Thu Apr 04, 2024 8:26 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: REPORT: Home draw takes unbeaten run to four
- Replies: 16
- Views: 1219
Re: REPORT: Home draw takes unbeaten run to four
Whilst I understand the view that the formation looked a bit over thought, I thought it actually worked pretty well. We scored a goal that was straight off the training ground and was exactly what we were trying to achieve - we overloaded down the right with Vitinho, Foster and Odobert, plus Fofana ...
- Wed Apr 03, 2024 9:00 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Odobert
- Replies: 40
- Views: 2900
Re: Odobert
He looked good without ever doing much.i think the game plan was to stretch Wolves so wide that it would then open up huge spaces centrally for Odobert which it did at times. He just didn't do anything with it. I'd have maybe put JBG in there at some point and moved Odobert wide. Vk over thought it...
- Tue Apr 02, 2024 11:11 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Burnley v Wolves - Player Ratings
- Replies: 66
- Views: 3728
Re: Burnley v Wolves - Player Ratings
A decent performance showing the sort of style and endeavour Kompany would want, undermined by the sort of goal that sums up our season. Muric - 7 - wonderful distribution for the most part although it became a bit frenetic towards the end, one excellent save and a couple of excellent clearances lea...
- Mon Apr 01, 2024 4:11 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Team v Wolves ?
- Replies: 30
- Views: 3317
Re: Team v Wolves ?
Agree Spice, except JBL not JBG. Thought JBL was playing really well Saturday but was hooked because of the red card (although I might have been tempted to hook Odobert under the circumstances). Anyway, think he carries more of threat than JBG and can do the defensive work. I don't think he's as go...
- Mon Apr 01, 2024 4:02 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Team v Wolves ?
- Replies: 30
- Views: 3317
Re: Team v Wolves ?
Obviously the team for a quick turn around game depends in good part on physical fitness. There are a few players - most obviously Foster given he's only just returning, and Taylor given he was a fitness doubt on Saturday- for whom you'd imagine the first question wouls be whether they are in peal c...
- Sun Mar 31, 2024 9:36 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Taylor
- Replies: 63
- Views: 4169
Re: Taylor
5 weeks isn't that long and it was a shoulder injury so I imagine he'd maintained good fitness throughout. Delcroix has shown to be a poor left back at this level (he looks like he could be a good at centre back) as has Vitinho, so these decisions to keep changing Taylor show what he thinks of him ...
- Sun Mar 31, 2024 9:21 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Taylor
- Replies: 63
- Views: 4169
Re: Taylor
Wasn't there a game where Delcroix started ahead of him at left back? Edit: Stopped being lazy and looked it up, Delcroix started v Arsenal with Taylor at left back. A decision equally as baffling as yesterday's. He just loves to tinker. That was Taylor's return from injury after a 5 week injury la...
- Sun Mar 31, 2024 8:44 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Taylor
- Replies: 63
- Views: 4169
Re: Taylor
Something to ponder, perhaps? Put it this way, if Taylor was a Kompany signing he'd play every single minute if available, you just feel he plays him begrudgingly. I like Kompany but he's as stubborn as a mule. He's certainly stubborn. Most managers are. And clearly Taylor was not VK's ideally temp...
- Sun Mar 31, 2024 8:41 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Wilson Odobert
- Replies: 39
- Views: 3605
Re: Wilson Odobert
On your last point I can never make my mind up really. We had this problem with Cornet as well, playing wide in a 442 is just a different position to the 433 role and I'm not sure he will ever be good at the defensive side in this system. Ideally we need to put players in their best positions and h...
- Sun Mar 31, 2024 5:15 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Taylor
- Replies: 63
- Views: 4169
- Sun Mar 31, 2024 5:14 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Assignon, Esteve and Fofana
- Replies: 98
- Views: 6842
Re: Assignon, Esteve and Fofana
For all it was not a foul and certainly not a yellow card, Assignon was naive and rash for the penalty yesterday. He'd got his body across Mudryk and kept pace with him (some feat). He then put his arm across Mudryk and gave him the excuse to go down. If you put an arm across when you don't need to,...
- Sun Mar 31, 2024 5:07 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Taylor
- Replies: 63
- Views: 4169
Re: Taylor
A bit dismayed that the knee week assumption is that Kompany left Taylor out from choice rather than because he might be carrying a knock and this is a 3 game week and we're trying to manage players' fitness. I'd have thought the latter was always the more likely answer.
- Sun Mar 31, 2024 4:55 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Wilson Odobert
- Replies: 39
- Views: 3605
Re: Wilson Odobert
I think he's got the tools to be a terrific player and has done remarkably well considering his age and the fact he's in his first season in England and English football. He would probably have benefited from being given a break at times but he's carried a threat in pretty much every game despite ou...
- Sun Mar 31, 2024 4:41 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Bayer
- Replies: 28
- Views: 3781
Re: Bayer
Continue to think he's some way from our best centre back but is the best right back at the club.
Hope he's back before the season ends.
Hope he's back before the season ends.
- Mon Mar 18, 2024 12:04 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Thomas Frank
- Replies: 27
- Views: 2779
Re: Thomas Frank
But they did judge it and that's why we had the long wait. They were still checking for a potential foul by Muric when the goal was scored and that check had to be completed before the goal could be given. Per comment above, not 100% sure that is correct. I think they looked for a reason to disallo...
- Mon Mar 18, 2024 11:09 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Thomas Frank
- Replies: 27
- Views: 2779
Re: Thomas Frank
They did actually look at it which is why we had the wait before restarting. What a farce it would have been if they'd decided it was a foul and given Brentford a penalty rather than a goal. Surely, once they'd scored the check should have stopped. I assume they checked for offside against the play...
- Sat Mar 16, 2024 4:43 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Burnley vs Brentford - MATCH THREAD
- Replies: 446
- Views: 12095
Re: Burnley vs Brentford - MATCH THREAD
Muric's passing has been delightful in this game, this is what we've been missing. It's less the shot stopping, it's more the build-up play we've been missing with having a keeper who can pick out a penny at 50+ yards while under pressure. If Trafford comes straight back in next match Muric's going...
- Wed Mar 13, 2024 8:37 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Assignon, Esteve and Fofana
- Replies: 98
- Views: 6842
Re: Assignon, Esteve and Fofana
I think all the chopping and changing hasn't helped him and he's not ready to be the senior defensive partner but I could see him developing into a solid premier league defender. If he'd spent this season playing alongside Mee I think he'd have looked considerably more assured. Although you look at...
- Wed Mar 13, 2024 8:25 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Tresor
- Replies: 81
- Views: 6427
Re: Tresor
I think there is a good player in Tresor and it may well be that he's someone who, if he is here next season (and I have to say the fact he's been so absent since Christmas and now describes himself as a "ghost" does make me wonder if he's below the threshold for the permanent move to be mandatory),...
- Wed Mar 06, 2024 7:41 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Possible affordable targets for next season
- Replies: 100
- Views: 6372
Re: Possible affordable targets for next season
What we'll be after depends on what we sell of course, but there are always some relative bargains to be found in the Championship and it'd seem to make sense to be looking for some solid Championship experience and leadership to compliment the callow players we'll have in the squad. There are a cou...
- Sun Mar 03, 2024 9:56 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Cullen
- Replies: 44
- Views: 2339
Re: Cullen
I'm just saying it's a constant and notably worse than Muric's averages. a few % difference is one thing but when it's 10,20 and even 30% higher then it's vastly different. The eye test says similar. Yes but muric was being specifically asked to locate a particular man and the team structure was de...
- Sun Mar 03, 2024 9:15 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Cullen
- Replies: 44
- Views: 2339
Re: Cullen
I suggest the prime culprit for the goal conceded at Spurs was Amdouni, he tries to do a trick instead of protecting the ball. We looked miles better with Muric in goal than we had for any of the previous weeks. The job for our goalkeeper next season is not a sweeper keeper, it's to step out and or...
- Sun Mar 03, 2024 9:12 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Cullen
- Replies: 44
- Views: 2339
Re: Cullen
Disagree. The level of passing Muric has is just outrageous. Again, in L1 Traff had similar accuracy / completion at medium and long ranges as he does right now - he just can't do it. I don't understand the relevance of that stat without a lot more detail about how Bolton were instructing him to pl...
- Sun Mar 03, 2024 9:05 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Cullen
- Replies: 44
- Views: 2339
Re: Cullen
Read my post before commenting. I mentioned a quote from Jed Wallace and was also talking about us in the Championship not the Premier League. To suggest Trafford is on the same planet as Muric on the ball is fanciful at best, their ability to keep the ball out of the net is another argument but Mu...
- Sun Mar 03, 2024 8:46 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Burnley v Bournemouth - Player Ratings
- Replies: 86
- Views: 4975
Re: Burnley v Bournemouth - Player Ratings
I thought O'Shea was poor today, the silly booking and the two goals, but it can't help playing alongside Estève at all. I certainly think that Esteve is being targeted. It looks to me like he's being targeting by balls that require him to turn on the basis it's a weakness in his game. It doesn't t...
- Sun Mar 03, 2024 8:24 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: O'Shea Booking
- Replies: 36
- Views: 2599
Re: O'Shea Booking
It was utterly stupid.
He's generally done fine, and I'm not convinced it particularly impacted his defending for either goal, but it's indicative of a lack of the dressing room discipline that was a hallmark under Dyche.
He's generally done fine, and I'm not convinced it particularly impacted his defending for either goal, but it's indicative of a lack of the dressing room discipline that was a hallmark under Dyche.
- Sun Mar 03, 2024 8:05 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Tad unlucky to lose today- me thinks!!
- Replies: 67
- Views: 3296
Re: Tad unlucky to lose today- me thinks!!
I don't we was unlucky at all I can't remember Neto having anything to do apart from the free kick. In terms of possession we had the lions share but didn't do much with it. It never looked like we would score & Bournemouth just held their shape & picked us off at will & looked more threatening wit...
- Sun Mar 03, 2024 7:58 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Tad unlucky to lose today- me thinks!!
- Replies: 67
- Views: 3296
Re: Tad unlucky to lose today- me thinks!!
Not unlucky at all, pitiful against a very poor Bournemouth side. The one shot I remember was like a pass to their goalie, though we were unlucky with Larsson's free kick almost crossing the line. Shame to see berge having to play centre half again when he's so much better helping the attack. Going...
- Sun Mar 03, 2024 7:49 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Cullen
- Replies: 44
- Views: 2339
Re: Cullen
They will be (if both are still here) but the balance I mentioned earlier is the key to everything. Last season, the ability for Muric to play as an additional outfield player in our build up play was massive, Jed Wallace said we were impossible to press because of this. We weren't impossible to pr...
- Sun Mar 03, 2024 7:33 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Tad unlucky to lose today- me thinks!!
- Replies: 67
- Views: 3296
Re: Tad unlucky to lose today- me thinks!!
We played better than of late in the first half. Odobert, Fofana, Brun Larsen and Vitinho all had very presentable chances to score. Unfortunately we conceded the obligatory soft goal. Second half was flat and our decision making in the final third let us down. As the game wore on you could see the...
- Sun Mar 03, 2024 7:30 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: RATE THE REF - David Coote v Bournemouth
- Replies: 53
- Views: 2363
Re: RATE THE REF - David Coote v Bournemouth
Tavernier should have walked. He did the same thing as Dara but went unpunished then got a yellow in the 2nd half. It wasn't quite as blatant but I agree, by this point we're dancing on the head of a pin to make the distinction. Either disrupting the throw is a yellow card or it isn't. Taverner pro...
- Sun Mar 03, 2024 7:23 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: RATE THE REF - David Coote v Bournemouth
- Replies: 53
- Views: 2363
Re: RATE THE REF - David Coote v Bournemouth
I don't normally rate but i can't understand for the life of me how Semenyo stayed on the pitch. He got booked for pushing Brunn Larsen in the face. He then gave away a foul when he pushed Taylor over because Taylor had got the wrong side of him and was driving at the full back. As Kompany correctly...
- Sun Mar 03, 2024 5:35 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Burnley v Bournemouth - Player Ratings
- Replies: 86
- Views: 4975
Re: Burnley v Bournemouth - Player Ratings
Muric gives us drive and purpose with the ball at his feet, Trafford doesn’t. He’s simply not up to it at the moment - who knows he may be in a few years. Your comments on Trafford and O’Shea baffle me - but it’s all opinions. Indeed it is. I thought O'Shea today was exposed by Esteve alongside him...
- Sun Mar 03, 2024 5:23 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Burnley v Bournemouth - Player Ratings
- Replies: 86
- Views: 4975
Re: Burnley v Bournemouth - Player Ratings
I think the biggest argument for dropping Trafford is reflected by the scores he's now getting for a perfectly fine performance in which he played to instructions. He's becoming a lightening rod for the teams failings.
- Sun Mar 03, 2024 5:08 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Burnley v Bournemouth - Player Ratings
- Replies: 86
- Views: 4975
Re: Burnley v Bournemouth - Player Ratings
A basically good performance undermined by a couple of poor lapses defensively, a lack of confidence around the opposition box and some understandable but unhelpful and in some cases unfair impatience from the crowd. Trafford- 7 - thought he showed character today. One good save, no chance with eith...
- Sat Mar 02, 2024 10:50 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ARTICLE: Substitute Cullen comes out on top in Palace defeat
- Replies: 29
- Views: 1456
Re: ARTICLE: Substitute Cullen comes out on top in Palace defeat
Hes a very important player for the squad as he as the experience of the Dyche days, which i think is important in keeping a strong hard working core within the squad. However the longer hes in the team the more his limitations show. This has been the case since he joined. I dont understand your co...
- Fri Mar 01, 2024 8:09 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ARTICLE: Substitute Cullen comes out on top in Palace defeat
- Replies: 29
- Views: 1456
Re: ARTICLE: Substitute Cullen comes out on top in Palace defeat
Theres an obvious flaw in this plan as well though in Brownhill. He would need to be showing for the ball, getting in the spaces and being able to turn and play forward. He isnt able to do this, he treats the ball like a hot potato which is probably why he has been trying Amdouni there. The one who...
- Fri Mar 01, 2024 1:53 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ARTICLE: Substitute Cullen comes out on top in Palace defeat
- Replies: 29
- Views: 1456
Re: ARTICLE: Substitute Cullen comes out on top in Palace defeat
I'd agree with Spice on Cullen. I've been of the opinion all season that our problems are much more to do with tactics than individuals. Cullen for me was hung out to dry earlier in the season. The box midfield would seem to work well when you're in control of a game, but we didn't have that contro...
- Fri Mar 01, 2024 11:49 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ARTICLE: Substitute Cullen comes out on top in Palace defeat
- Replies: 29
- Views: 1456
Re: ARTICLE: Substitute Cullen comes out on top in Palace defeat
Last season we had Muric getting the ball to Cullen rapidly giving him time to pick a pass and open up play,this season we have the ponderous Trafford taking an age to play the ball.out giving the opposition time to mark up, Cullen didn't become a bad player overnight, the tactics did though. Altho...
- Fri Mar 01, 2024 8:02 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: ARTICLE: Substitute Cullen comes out on top in Palace defeat
- Replies: 29
- Views: 1456
Re: ARTICLE: Substitute Cullen comes out on top in Palace defeat
Cullen and Cork in a 4 2 31 maybe. To be honest I forgot about Cork. I would have doubts about Cork having the physically needed and together with Cullen they may end up trying to occupy the same space... But things can't really get much worse so anything is worth a go. A big feature of the Kompany...
- Mon Feb 26, 2024 8:28 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Simple vote for Kompany to stay or go…no debate
- Replies: 424
- Views: 15131
Re: Simple vote for Kompany to stay or go…no debate
I hope Kompany stays, but I also hope there are some changes to the way the club operates. The amount of control that appears to have been vested in one person is a bit frightening. There is no obvious counterpoint to Kompany anywhere in the football side of the operation. Even last week Matt Willia...
- Mon Feb 26, 2024 2:17 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Selections on Sunday
- Replies: 108
- Views: 4992
Re: Selections on Sunday
At this level i don't think it's credible to start with Benson and Odobert as wide players. They don't support the full back enough - even if we play with a central midfield 3. Personally I think the root of many of our problems has been a tendency to play with Odobert and Amdouni who are passengers...
- Sat Feb 24, 2024 1:06 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Take a look back
- Replies: 33
- Views: 1770
Re: Take a look back
Definitely a factor, I agree. But re the team changes against City, was it really a good idea to start the opening game of the season with 5 debutants considering the team had just blitzed the Championship? Even more baffling when you consider that Kompany was quite candid in explaining that it tak...
- Sat Feb 24, 2024 12:28 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Take a look back
- Replies: 33
- Views: 1770
Re: Take a look back
Cast your mind back to the start of the season. The first six fixtures - Man City (world champs), Villa, Spurs, Forest, ManU, Newcastle. Robbed by VAR at Forest so 1 point and 15 goals conceded Also a game behind the rest because Luton’s ground wasn’t good enough. What a difference 3 points at that...
- Thu Feb 22, 2024 8:23 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Aaron Ramsey injury
- Replies: 120
- Views: 6054
Re: Aaron Ramsey injury
I'm another who finds this sudden bout of proprietorial expectation over a player most have spent the last 6 months denigrating hard to square. The club have to my mind provided plenty of information and I too don't see much difference from the Dyche era. Really, this thread should be about expressi...
- Sun Feb 18, 2024 2:30 pm
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Home before the final whistle
- Replies: 121
- Views: 5442
Re: Home before the final whistle
Cool, that makes sense. From My perspective I enjoyed the fact that the club didn’t buy into all of the myths about football… that you could only play one way, that you had to spend huge money on over valued footballers with questionable morals and attitudes, and I enjoyed that hard work, endeavour...
- Sun Feb 18, 2024 10:47 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: Which team wins
- Replies: 63
- Views: 2177
Re: Which team wins
Muric Roberts THB Beyer Maatsen Cullen Cork Benson Brownhill Zaroury Barnes Trafford Assignon O'Shea Esteve Delcroix Berge Brownhill Ramsey Amdouni Odabert Fofana Which team wins the game? How have we managed to get so much worse?? This season's team wins. For the same reason that, contrary to folk...
- Sun Feb 18, 2024 10:14 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: The future is difficult to fathom out
- Replies: 45
- Views: 2508
Re: The future is difficult to fathom out
Catastrophic seasons have hangovers. Sometimes. But it's midnight and it's up to us whether to stop drinking and have a few pints if water to make sure we're feeling a bit better in the morning. That's a choice for VK and his staff, the players, but also fans. 2019/20 Norwich managed 21 points. The...
- Sun Feb 18, 2024 10:06 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: The future is difficult to fathom out
- Replies: 45
- Views: 2508
Re: The future is difficult to fathom out
OK let's have a go at an optimistic, but not wholly implausible scenario. We sell a few players this season to rationalise the squad and raise some cash, but keep a core that includes O'Shea, Esteve, Bayer, Cullen, Ramsey, Foster, Koleosho, Zaroury, Redmond and perhaps Amdouni, and bring in an exper...
- Sun Feb 18, 2024 9:45 am
- Forum: The Bee Hole End
- Topic: What a ******* shambles!
- Replies: 142
- Views: 7286
Re: What a ******* shambles!
But at what cost? What league will we be in? We've spent BIG money on Trafford and Ramsey. They are on long contracts. The only reason I can imagine they are getting in the team is because club are desperate to flip them for profit ASAP. This isn't pop at them for for their performances or ability,...